Thieves strike again, but in a different way

[EsChassisLove]

So on the 8th of Oct, I ordered a Wiring Specialties harness with 3 day shipping on it. I addressed it to the shop/shop owner who has my car while I'm deployed, and it shipped on the 10th via UPS.

I called him up yesterday on a sat phone to make sure all the parts I've ordered have been delivered. He said yes to everything except the harness.

I gave him the tracking number to look it up since I didn't have access to the Internet, and it was delivered on the 12th, and some dude named Vasquez signed for it. The shop owners name is Jose Valle. I haven't gotten ahold of ups yet, I will later today. But if they don't own up to this and give me the $500 that the harness cost and fire that fucking driver for letting some random assbag off the streets sign for it, I guess I'll have to take a loss or bring a lawyer into it.

Thieves are waiting outside of shops now to claim packages now? Seriously right now? Just beware shop owners.

I'm lucky it was just this and not the other $1500 worth of stuff that was delivered just days before.

[va240dude]

Sucks to hear man, I hope it gets worked out soon and justice is done!

[marshracing]

Good luck getting anything out of UPS. I had something shipped and they crushed it ruining it and they wouldnt give me anything.

[EsChassisLove]

I'll try my best to get what they owe me.

If you guys could keep a look out on any BNIB Wiring Specialty S13 SR to S14 chassis harness with AEM AIT/MAP sensor connections in the CA area that would be great.

I have limited access to the web right now so I can't look myself.

[d_nice]

damn thats suck man...hope u get it solved

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Please post any updates that you get. Good luck

[jk26]

Word of advice with ups... Just stay on them they lost one of Meisters, an after 8 months of back and forth with them and the shipper I got $800... It was a process but definitely worth it.

[LI NY 240sx]

I bet the scumbag thought he was getting something good, then he opens the box to find a wire harness. If there wasn't any paperwork from Wiring Specialties, he probably would have no idea what it belongs to or what to do with it.

Good luck and I hope everything works out for you.

[zooopreme]

I thought it was common knowledge that UPS delivery people will let anybody sign the package off which is why for the most part, I don't use UPS to ship my stuff.

Their way of "checking if the buyer signed" is asking "Are you *insert buyers name*?" and you could easily just say "yes". I sign off a lot of my sister's packages when they get here from UPS and the delivery guy even asks if my name is my sister's name...

[fliprayzin240sx]

My question is, is there anybody else who could have signed for it in the shop or who was there that day? Somebody could have easily signed for it, put it somewhere inside the shop and not tell anybody. This shit happens ALOT!!!

[h2v7]

My question is, is there anybody else who could have signed for it in the shop or who was there that day? Somebody could have easily signed for it, put it somewhere inside the shop and not tell anybody. This shit happens ALOT!!!


the op could only hope this is the case... if its not suckkkkks

[godrifttoday]

First of all, I think you screwed up, why would you send stuff to a shop!!??? (must be for convenience) First it's not being shipped to your home address so when u do file a claim with your cc or PayPal, whatever address you sent it is not verified! Nor yours... so why would they cover something that has potential fraud written all over it! Send it to your house next time

[fliprayzin240sx]

First of all, I think you screwed up, why would you send stuff to a shop!!??? (must be for convenience) First it's not being shipped to your home address so when u do file a claim with your cc or PayPal, whatever address you sent it is not verified! Nor yours... so why would they cover something that has potential fraud written all over it! Send it to your house next time

Why dont you read what he posted instead of blasting him for it?

So on the 8th of Oct, I ordered a Wiring Specialties harness with 3 day shipping on it. I addressed it to the shop/shop owner who has my car while I'm deployed, and it shipped on the 10th via UPS.

I called him up yesterday on a sat phone to make sure all the parts I've ordered have been delivered. He said yes to everything except the harness.

I gave him the tracking number to look it up since I didn't have access to the Internet, and it was delivered on the 12th, and some dude named Vasquez signed for it. The shop owners name is Jose Valle. I haven't gotten ahold of ups yet, I will later today. But if they don't own up to this and give me the $500 that the harness cost and fire that fucking driver for letting some random assbag off the streets sign for it, I guess I'll have to take a loss or bring a lawyer into it.

Thieves are waiting outside of shops now to claim packages now? Seriously right now? Just beware shop owners.

I'm lucky it was just this and not the other $1500 worth of stuff that was delivered just days before.

[drscooper]

this is seriously insane, op I hope it was just missed place and not stolen or you can be refunded. it has come to the point were you can't be safe anywhere from thieves.


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[hamizle]

Hmmm sneaky employee?? I doubt the shop owner would take something like that.

[ta2dpnoy]

screw ups. they damaged my diff. by dropping it several times and they would'nt pay up after filing a damage claim. I even showed the driver the damage who dropped it at my house. there's a ups store near me and i go out of my way to use other shipping companies.

[Keith240]

First of all, I think you screwed up, why would you send stuff to a shop!!??? (must be for convenience)

Must be that he is OVERSEAS risking his butt. You would have known that if you read a few sentences, but apparently that was too inconvenient for you.

OP, hope you get your ish back, just bug UPS and it shouldn't be an issue.

[Corbic]

Good luck getting anything out of UPS. I had something shipped and they crushed it ruining it and they wouldnt give me anything.

I've had the complete opposite experience. It was effortless because of the low cost pay out and how much it would cost administratively to actually give a crap.

[KA-Life86]

Who steals a wiring harness? Does it say on the box what its for and the specific components it has? I could understand why someone would steal actual hardware or parts that look like theyre worth something...but a wiring harness lol?

Speaking from a shop owners point of view, I know UPS and FedEx drivers show up here several times a day, and if someone kinda looks like they work here, the driver will ask them to sign for stuff. I have tried to tell the drivers several times to seek me out personally as I prefer to know what comes and goes from my place of business, but they are always in too much of a hurry to look around. Its the nature of the beast, sucks what happened to you o.p. Hope you can get it resolved

P.S Thanks for your service brother :rawk:

[Chuki_KA24e]

U.P.S. Sucks! They do not care about your package. Twice now I've had them leave boxes at my house. Once on my back door step and once under my room mates truck in the driveway. Both places are very visible from the street. Tracking number says delivered, nobody signed for either package.

With fed/ex and postal service if I'm not there to sign, it's taken back to the depot and I pick it up the next day.

Op, I hope it all gets figured out for you and it turns up.

[sil80d]

The building that I work in receives 20-40 packages a day through ups. Ever once and a way we receive a package that doesn't belong to us. Vise versa. The likely hood of a ups driver stealing your package is 1%. The receiver signs of all the packages, not just one at a time. Any number of this could have happened to cause your package not to arrive. Ups drivers are union employees making up words of 32-40 dollars an hour. They aren't looking to steal your harness. Call ups and tell them that your package did arrive. They will try to track down you item. Ups tracks all there drivers with GPS they can find any packages that are delivered

[godrifttoday]

I would have rather sent it home and have sOmeone deliver it... But I hope it gets resolved

[tapdeznutz]

First of all, I think you screwed up, why would you send stuff to a shop!!??? (must be for convenience) First it's not being shipped to your home address so when u do file a claim with your cc or PayPal, whatever address you sent it is not verified! Nor yours... so why would they cover something that has potential fraud written all over it! Send it to your house next time

i agree with you here, it might be a tough sale to come at UPS with. And dont flame me, its just the way the system works. To OP you may want to consider shipping to your home or a buddies address. As cool as a shop is, they may not come out of pocket to help you out, just saying.

[driftsilvias13]

I had UPS lose 1 of 2 boxes I shipped. Took them FOREVER to reimburse me for it. I only use Fedex now.

[riptor]

Be safe on deployment OP! I hope this shit gets worked out. Karma is alive and whoever screwed you over will get theirs....no doubt about it...out of curiousity, what ship you attached to?

[dopplganger1]

Yea I try and avoid UPS as much as possible because I have had stuff disappear or the boxes are damaged luckily nothing has been broken, or even one time instead of leaving it at the doorstep or coming back the next day they left it in the garbage can that was put out on the curb to be taken away the next morning. But good luck so far I've been successful in getting my money back

[godrifttoday]

Be safe on deployment OP! I hope this shit gets worked out. Karma is alive and whoever screwed you over will get theirs....no doubt about it...out of curiousity, what ship you attached to?

Karma is something that is made up by our mind's to accept something that is false as true

[steve shadows]

Word of advice with ups... Just stay on them they lost one of Meisters, an after 8 months of back and forth with them and the shipper I got $800... It was a process but definitely worth it.

When I am not doing base maps and remote tuning/dyno tuning I do consulting for the logistics world as well as run a logistics freight matching website. So I know a bit about this whole shit show they pull with claims. Especially common carriers like (UPS FEDEX) If they actually lost it in transit they are liable and you can file a claim right away call them every single day and go up the food chain. Terminal managers are the best or if you can get higher even better but go for the Terminal managers. Say you're going to write a blog to all your other buddies in the car world on a forum that reaches 100,000 people saying how horrible your experience with UPS was and that they lost or damaged your goods. They WILL take care of you, especially if you're talking to the right person. The freight and logistics industry is super competitive and they do a lot of organic marketing and marketing targeting and based on reliability and like to brag about low claims. If they get any bad rep out there about claims not being paid out or lag on claims and a manager knows that some tard in accounting is holding up on paying out the claim chances are he'll release the funds to you right away.

Hope this helps.

[Bumpkin203]

Karma is something that is made up by our mind's to accept something that is false as true

Im with him ^

Sorry about your situation man, when i was deployed i had everything shipped to my dads house, for the most part i trust him not to screw me over lmao

[jubee]

as long as you have insurence on the package you will be fine. I deal with UPS claims all the time from damaged to missing. GL

[NoPistons!]

Logistics: Where we hire retards to ship shit like they dont give a damn.


They do not care. Neither does fedex 75 percent of the time but my packages usually arrive mint from them. Ups be putting holes in my shit and ripping tape up as if the driver had a crack habit and REALLY wanted to see what was in that heavy ass box.

I support my local post office. that's about it. Usually, thats how i request people ship stuff to me. Seems like USPS has some pride in HAVING a job in this trying economy.

UPS verification goes like this: Here's where the package goes. Fuck it. Not my problem.

I haven't even had to sign the past 10 or so times they've brought stuff to the house and i'm pretty glad i didn't apply for a job with that company. I dont like the way they do business and i work in logistics now for fucksake........ It's a fancy word for spending fancy money to try to build a fancy image to still manage to fuck up shipping cases because everything is put into the hands of a computer based system which usually was put together by idiots and ran by idiots. I could have been anybody receiving thousands of dollars of car parts intended for someone else just by being at the right place at the right time. Could have been simply walking past the driveway when they pulled up! Lucky for me, i was the intended customer at the destined address.


File a claim and fight it! Best advice i can give. If you have to talk to a regional manager or corporate to get it proper, go for it. Dont let them punk you out. They screwed up their verification or the shop screwed up, not you. Someone needs to be held accountable.

[dizzariot]

My money is on an employee who's driving the same car as you brother. Better ask the shop owner if anyone has a special interest in that chassis...

[Jesse SR20]

First off, please stop bashing UPS.

I am a UPS driver, and I take pride in my job. I handle all my packages with care, and do my best to deliver them to the correct address/receiver. I am a human being, and I will and do make mistakes. We all do.

Speak to UPS. Explain the situation. They will issue a "driver follow-up". The driver will stop by the shop and ask about the package. He may recall who signed for it, or if it was delivered to another address by mistake. If not, you can proceed with a claim.

The amount of damaged packages is roughly the same percentage across all the major shipping companies. The only reason you hear about UPS more often is because so many more people use UPS. We are the #1 shipping company for a reason.

Most damaged packages are a result of piss poor packaging. There is a list of packing regulations required to ship a package via UPS. Not many people follow them. People would rather save a couple bucks and severely reduce the strength and durability of their package. UPS facilities consist of huge conveyor belts, steel diverters, chutes, troughs, hard corners, belt jams, tumbles, bumps, etc.

A package sent from Orange County to Los Angeles County will be handled by at a minimum of 10 UPS employees. That's just from one UPS hub to another. It multiplies every time it is routed through another hub. The chance for damage to occur is very high. So pack your shit right. And don't buy stuff from companies who don't either !

[1gr8bar10der]

Keep us updated about this, OP. Hope you get this straight.

[!Zar!]

U.P.S. Sucks! They do not care about your package. Twice now I've had them leave boxes at my house. Once on my back door step and once under my room mates truck in the driveway. Both places are very visible from the street. Tracking number says delivered, nobody signed for either package.

With fed/ex and postal service if I'm not there to sign, it's taken back to the depot and I pick it up the next day.

Op, I hope it all gets figured out for you and it turns up.


Don't get angry at the carrier, get angry at yourself and the shipper.

It is up to you all to decide how the package is handled.

[zerodameaon]

Have a friend go over to the shop and start getting friendly, get some names etc. It also could very simply have been misplaced at the shop or delivered next door on accident.

Stay safe over there OP.

[EsChassisLove]

Found it.

Delivered to the other side of the warehouses. Almost a block away. Really now.............

Guy held it for 14 days. Didn't even think to go to the shop and give it to The owner. Just waited for him to come get it. Ridiculous.

[Chuki_KA24e]

Don't get angry at the carrier, get angry at yourself and the shipper.

It is up to you all to decide how the package is handled.

Except I had already called the ups depot in my area and asked them specifically to take it back to the depot if nobody was there to recieve it..

[Chuki_KA24e]

Found it.

Delivered to the other side of the warehouses. Almost a block away. Really now.............

Guy held it for 14 days. Didn't even think to go to the shop and give it to The owner. Just waited for him to come get it. Ridiculous.

That's awesome, glad to hear it!

[zerodameaon]

Screwed up on the receivers part, if its in the same area its easy to just go drop it off, but all that really matters is your back on track.

[Trap Star]

screw ups. they damaged my diff. by dropping it several times and they would'nt pay up after filing a damage claim. I even showed the driver the damage who dropped it at my house. there's a ups store near me and i go out of my way to use other shipping companies.
Why would you accept something that's obviously damaged? I feel like the claims process would probably be easier if there was no chance that you had ever handled the package.

[fliprayzin240sx]

I got no beef with UPS...
http://www.lifeisajoke.com/Men_Women/sexy-ups-girl.jpg

[riptor]

glad you got it sorted op.