Turbo Opinions Please?

[Jm1hawk]

So im trying to decide whether i should sell my car with a stock ka24de and buy a car with an sr20. The motor i have now seems very sound. 150 compression in all 4 cylinders on a cold test. If I were to turbo the KA would only run about 6 pounds of boost. Trying to make around 200-240 hp. I dont have the turbo kit picked out yet so give me your opinions on what i should do. How much you think it would cost me to run a small turbo setup or should i just sell and buy something with an SR.

Thanks guys

[nomoremk2]

Why not swap an sr in your current car if you want one? If you're thinking about boosting your Ka, go to Ka-t.org and read everything you can. If you boost the Ka, piece everything together yourself. It's much cheaper that way. Just absolutely don't skimp out on tuning.

[Irresistible]

Do some research instead of asking a question that's been asked a million times. nomoremk2 gave you a good answer... Don't really expect much else to be given, as there is a plethora of information on turboing a KA vs. swapping in an SR on the internet. ka-t.org is a perfect starting point.

[ReEducation]

Why swap at all? If 200's is your power goal, and compression is fine, boost the KA. KA vs SR is a useless argument. Both motors can be great. If you want an SR get an SR, if you just want to be boosted, use your KA

[Jm1hawk]

Ya kinda just having a tough choice. idk what to doo. I dont want to swap in a motor cause i dont have the money for a SR but i would for a turbo or save up a few hundred more bucks and by something with an SR

[Jm1hawk]

Do some research instead of asking a question that's been asked a million times. nomoremk2 gave you a good answer... Don't really expect much else to be given, as there is a plethora of information on turboing a KA vs. swapping in an SR on the internet. ka-t.org is a perfect starting point.


Im just asking an opinions not looking for a shitload of information.

[EDacIouSX]

Im just asking an opinions not looking for a shitload of information.

You're not the first to ask this question. It's so rudimentary that people are very tired of seeing new threads with the same one over and over again, that's why people tell you and others to search.

You basically answered your own question, if money's an issue then you shouldn't even be spending it on your car. At the end of everything, the price difference comes to about $0.... properly done ka-t costs the same as a swapped SR.

[mikael]

Although the ka has a iron block it can hold a lot of more power than the Sr20det but just by the way how ur ganna build the ka to a ka-t I say naw get a Sr20 plz drop straight in bone stock more power already but uh hmm ppl plz get a dyno tune just don't drop drop in the motor without a tune cause need it to run right cause even with a stock swap can sometimes throw check engine lights so tune. But if u have money go with the s15 Sr20 much stronger and 265hp 7psi stock

[jr_ss]

Although the ka has a iron block it can hold a lot of more power than the Sr20det but just by the way how ur ganna build the ka to a ka-t I say naw get a Sr20 plz drop straight in bone stock more power already but uh hmm ppl plz get a dyno tune just don't drop drop in the motor without a tune cause need it to run right cause even with a stock swap can sometimes throw check engine lights so tune. But if u have money go with the s15 Sr20 much stronger and 265hp 7psi stock

What!?!?!? I believe California just took the lead from Florida....

OP- opinions are like assholes everyone has one. It's your money, your car, make your own decisions and most importantly do your own research. If you don't have the money to do the swap, you aren't going to have money to do the KA-T correctly...

[badbob2121]

Although the ka has a iron block it can hold a lot of more power than the Sr20det but just by the way how ur ganna build the ka to a ka-t I say naw get a Sr20 plz drop straight in bone stock more power already but uh hmm ppl plz get a dyno tune just don't drop drop in the motor without a tune cause need it to run right cause even with a stock swap can sometimes throw check engine lights so tune. But if u have money go with the s15 Sr20 much stronger and 265hp 7psi stock

What the fuck is this?

:duh:

[ShadowDrifter]

Although the ka has a iron block it can hold a lot of more power than the Sr20det but just by the way how ur ganna build the ka to a ka-t I say naw get a Sr20 plz drop straight in bone stock more power already but uh hmm ppl plz get a dyno tune just don't drop drop in the motor without a tune cause need it to run right cause even with a stock swap can sometimes throw check engine lights so tune. But if u have money go with the s15 Sr20 much stronger and 265hp 7psi stock


Seriously do you relize how much of an idot you just made yourself out to be. STFU you have no idea what your talking about NOOB.

[ShadowDrifter]

now for what you wanna do if you only want around 200-250 then yes peice a turbo kit together for the KA and you will be fine, again tuning is key here. The stock internals don't like boost to much but are safe till about 300 325 give or take, again depends on tuning. You can get more but again stock bottom end on KA's are very weak. Built the right way they are a powerhouse. A stock sr would be better suited becasue its already built with turbo and all and has been proven to handle 400 hp on a stock botton end with really good tuning. Also Sr parts are a dime a dozon. You DO NOT have to dyno tune a stock SR or with basic bolt ons either ie: intercooler intake and exhaust manifolds o2 housings and exhaust systems. YES you should to get the best power and gas milage but it don't need to be done. Look around a bit you will find all you need. If you want or need more info PM me and I will be glad to help ya out. Hope this helps ya too.

[ShadowDrifter]

by the way do NOT use the s15 motor yes it is a bit stronger but the trannys are very very weak and you need the rear end from an s15 to use your spedo and all too. FYI

[bc.]

Although the ka has a iron block it can hold a lot of more power than the Sr20det but just by the way how ur ganna build the ka to a ka-t I say naw get a Sr20 plz drop straight in bone stock more power already but uh hmm ppl plz get a dyno tune just don't drop drop in the motor without a tune cause need it to run right cause even with a stock swap can sometimes throw check engine lights so tune. But if u have money go with the s15 Sr20 much stronger and 265hp 7psi stock
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[fliprayzin240sx]

So im trying to decide whether i should sell my car with a stock ka24de and buy a car with an sr20. The motor i have now seems very sound. 150 compression in all 4 cylinders on a cold test. If I were to turbo the KA would only run about 6 pounds of boost. Trying to make around 200-240 hp. I dont have the turbo kit picked out yet so give me your opinions on what i should do. How much you think it would cost me to run a small turbo setup or should i just sell and buy something with an SR.

Thanks guys

150 compression, even cold, aint exactly healthy. This engine isnt the best candidate for going DE-T

Although the ka has a iron block it can hold a lot of more power than the Sr20det but just by the way how ur ganna build the ka to a ka-t I say naw get a Sr20 plz drop straight in bone stock more power already but uh hmm ppl plz get a dyno tune just don't drop drop in the motor without a tune cause need it to run right cause even with a stock swap can sometimes throw check engine lights so tune. But if u have money go with the s15 Sr20 much stronger and 265hp 7psi stock

Idiot...nuff said...

by the way do NOT use the s15 motor yes it is a bit stronger but the trannys are very very weak and you need the rear end from an s15 to use your spedo and all too. FYI

Myth, all SR tranny's are all shit, not just the S15. There are folks who are pushing the as much HP on S13/14 trannies vs S15 6speeds and they all suck once you start pushing close/over 350ft/lbs. Tossing twin plate clutches on them just shocks the driveline even more.

[s13livin]

Although the ka has a iron block it can hold a lot of more power than the Sr20det but just by the way how ur ganna build the ka to a ka-t I say naw get a Sr20 plz drop straight in bone stock more power already but uh hmm ppl plz get a dyno tune just don't drop drop in the motor without a tune cause need it to run right cause even with a stock swap can sometimes throw check engine lights so tune. But if u have money go with the s15 Sr20 much stronger and 265hp 7psi stock
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What!?!?!? I believe California just took the lead from Florida....

OP- opinions are like assholes everyone has one. It's your money, your car, make your own decisions and most importantly do your own research. If you don't have the money to do the swap, you aren't going to have money to do the KA-T correctly...
definately getting close hahaha

[Pblesh85]

Screw ALL of what was said. Most of it is crap anyway. Buy a good dif and suspension. You will have 10 times as much fun as a "turbo".

or be an ebay baller and get a shit turbo kit, coils, wheels, and all the JDM you could ever want for whats under the couch cushions. :drama:

[NHTKID]

dude with your goals, either one is attainable and roughly the same cost given that they're both done right.

What you need to learn before turboing your car is to search "google".. the internet in essence is infinite knowledge.. stop being lazy and learn. Assuming you know how to read its really simple to attain knowledge these days. Use it to your advantage.

This thread should be locked.

[stephens14sr]

These threads make my brain hurt.

[Jm1hawk]

now for what you wanna do if you only want around 200-250 then yes peice a turbo kit together for the KA and you will be fine, again tuning is key here. The stock internals don't like boost to much but are safe till about 300 325 give or take, again depends on tuning. You can get more but again stock bottom end on KA's are very weak. Built the right way they are a powerhouse. A stock sr would be better suited becasue its already built with turbo and all and has been proven to handle 400 hp on a stock botton end with really good tuning. Also Sr parts are a dime a dozon. You DO NOT have to dyno tune a stock SR or with basic bolt ons either ie: intercooler intake and exhaust manifolds o2 housings and exhaust systems. YES you should to get the best power and gas milage but it don't need to be done. Look around a bit you will find all you need. If you want or need more info PM me and I will be glad to help ya out. Hope this helps ya too.

I Thought that KA bottom ends are fairly strong. But yes i see what you and others are saying. Its gonna be expensive either way but i think i can get by a little cheaper turboing my motor. No looking for anything over 250 hp just a little more power.

[Jm1hawk]

Hey flipray... so what is good compression numbers to turbo a KA I thought 150 was like a middle range and it was cold. What would i idealy want to be at

[s13livin]

Hey flipray... so what is good compression numbers to turbo a KA I thought 150 was like a middle range and it was cold. What would i idealy want to be at

the fsm for my sohc says 190. if i can recall the dual was 180

[drscooper]

do what you want man, but you won't find much Ka stuff on here but with your thinking why not go v8?


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[ReEducation]

Warm kade should be 180 +/- 14 across the board. IIRC there was a thread that said above 140 on a cold test is acceptale though a cold test in Cali vs a cold test here in northern Illinois would probably yield different results. But cold engine=less expansion=more blow by so yea I can see a cold test having lower compression. As for the KA being weak there are multiple guys on ka-t.org over 300whp on stock internals. Tuning is key. You could piece together a turbo kit for pretty cheap, SR injectors, n62 maf, and Enthalpy tuned ecu. Or you could buy the SR swapped car, it may have been raped to hell or it may not have but thats a risk you take buying a used boosted car. But at the end of the day its your money being spent, so asking our opinions is useless. SR guys are gonna say SR, KA guys are gonna say KA, N/A guys will say N/A so on and so forth. but whatever you choose good luck to you sir :bigok:

[SlideOrDie831]

fact, all SR trannys are crap.

if you wanna be cheap, piece together your own kit and use an S13 T25 or S14/15 T28.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Minimum for a KA24DE per FSM is 155 or 150 if I remember correctly. Either way, I wouldnt boost it cuz It wont fucking last without rebuilding the bottom end. Sitting at the minimum acceptable compression and then boosting it is just asking for trouble.

[laurentj23]

Although the ka has a iron block it can hold a lot of more power than the Sr20det but just by the way how ur ganna build the ka to a ka-t I say naw get a Sr20 plz drop straight in bone stock more power already but uh hmm ppl plz get a dyno tune just don't drop drop in the motor without a tune cause need it to run right cause even with a stock swap can sometimes throw check engine lights so tune. But if u have money go with the s15 Sr20 much stronger and 265hp 7psi stock

Someone translate pls? Wtf!

[hamizle]

Sell your car.

[Jm1hawk]

Hahahah ok im getting some good info thanks guys

[nismoracingsx]

I would think you'd aim for 170's on your comp. before throwing boost at it...just my opinion though..