Yet another SR Swap Progress Post :)

[DORIMON]

After delaying my swap for about 5 months due to finishing school and working a new full-time schedule, today is the day my KA was finally pulled thanks to Jonathan "cIvIcKILLA240style". Day 1 (2/17/04), we started pulling off all the KA engine parts and had everything ready for day 2 (today) where the KA was pulled. Here is my list of SR parts, and some pics of the progress. Thursday (2/26/04) should be the day the redtop will go in.

Used S13 Red-Top SR20DET Motor/T-25 Turbo/ECU/Tranny/Coil Packs - $1600 shipped
Used Full S13 SR Uncut Harness - $445.00 shipped
Used SR Ignitor Chip - $135.00 shipped
Used SR MAF Sensor - $71.00 shipped
Used S13 SR Rubber Turbo Intake Hose - $50.00 shipped
Used SR Alternator (installed) - $50.00 shipped
Used SR Starter (installed) - $50.00 shipped
SR Crank Angle Sensor (installed) - $120.00
SPEC Stage 3 6-Puck Clutch (installed) - $320.00 shipped
Greddy Turbo Extension Pipe (installed) - $215.00
SR Water Pump (installed) - $130.00
Radiator/Heater Hoses, Copper Spark Plugs, Drive/PS Belts, Oil/Fuel Filters (installed) - $138.00
Nismo Thermostat (installed) - $80.00
Greddy Oil Pan (installed) - $270.00 shipped
Heavy Throttle Custom Stainless Downpipe - $159.00
Heavy Throttle Straightpipe - $99.00
Nismo Motor & Tranny Mounts Installed) - $215.00
HKS SMF Intake - $76.00 shipped
HKS SSQV - $193.00 shipped
Hotpipe with HKS SSQV welded flange - $140.00 shipped
Blitz LM S13 SR Front Mount Intercooler - $820.00 shipped
HKS Type-0 Turbo Timer (Black) - $82.00 shipped
HKS Turbo Timer S14 Harness - $29.99
Flex-a-lite Dual 12" Electric Fans - $229.00
Koyo Aluminum Radiator - $350.00
Odyssey Slim Battery - $81.00
Walbro 255 Fuel Pump - $95.00 shipped

The day (9/12/03) I received my motor from my team's online shop, www.thespeedfactor.com.
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Misc. SR parts
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Blitz LM FMIC with slightly polished piping, and HKS SSQV hotpipe
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SR Preparation: new belts, spark plugs, alternator, water pump, oil filter, CAS, heater hoses, Trust Turbo Extension, SPEC Stage 3 Clutch
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Me (on the left) and Jonathan "cIvIcKILLA240style" just finsihing up installing the Trust oil pan and standing the motor on a tire.
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KA parts removed and motor ready to be pulled.
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Bumper support cut and Blitz intercooler core test fitting.
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Jonathan (cIvIcKILLA240style) repositioning the chain and prying the motor off the motor mount for KA pull.
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Me doing a JDM pose, and then sitting in the engine bay, hehe. (bad quality, forgot the flash)
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Dirty engine bay, and the end of day 2.
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More pics to come....

[TiNMAN]

damn, thats like everything on a christmas wishlist. lol, keep us updated, looks good so far...hmph?

[Bryants95240sx]

i added all that stuff up came out to about $6,242 that about right ?

[TiNMAN]

hot diggity damn!

[DORIMON]

i added all that stuff up came out to about $6,242 that about right ?Yea its something like that, also add another $250 + shipping due to Heavy Throttle S13 > S14 harness rewiring.

[TiNMAN]

when is it gonna be up and running? which parts still need to be installed?

[DORIMON]

when is it gonna be up and running? which parts still need to be installed?Well, as soon as Heavy Throttle sends back my rewired harness which is like 2-3 weeks from yesterday, I will actually fire it up. I still need to actually drop the redtop in and install the rest of the parts on my list that haven't been labeled (installed) yet. Tonight I'm going to try to clean up the engine bay a little bit so Thursday we can drop it in. All I can say is, Jonathan is the "Silvia Master", hehe.

[DRFT]

wow looking good so far, btw whats the progress with the kouki bumper on the zenki front end? im sure after its all done your car is gonna be hot!

[TiNMAN]

hey if you wanna do a complete kouki conversion, i have the right fender, right headlight, right corner light and grille. lol, your pockets already have holes in em, but hey just pm if interested. peace out!

[DORIMON]

wow looking good so far, btw whats the progress with the kouki bumper on the zenki front end? im sure after its all done your car is gonna be hot!Thanks, I actually tried the JDM Kouki bumper on the Zenki front-end and it didn't line up at all with the fenders. So one day after the swap I'll get around to converting the whole front-end.


hey if you wanna do a complete kouki conversion, i have the right fender, right headlight, right corner light and grille. lol, your pockets already have holes in em, but hey just pm if interested. peace out! Hehe, sorry man, like you said, I'm broke as hell right now. I'll have to start saving some more money up and by then I doubt you'll still have your parts available, but when the time comes around, I'll let you know.

[s14xman]

wow that shiet is hot, me likey!!! Can't wait to see it done!

[mixxamike]

Please make sure you paint your engine bay before you drop your new motor in. It's so dissapointing seeing immaculate engines in a shit hole of an engine bay.

If you can't paint it, spend some serious time in there degreasing, scrubbing, and degreasing some more. Get in those tight spaces, you'll thank yourself later when you have your SWEET enging sitting pretty in a squeaky clean engine bay!!! ;)

[DORIMON]

Please make sure you paint your engine bay before you drop your new motor in. It's so dissapointing seeing immaculate engines in a shit hole of an engine bay.

If you can't paint it, spend some serious time in there degreasing, scrubbing, and degreasing some more. Get in those tight spaces, you'll thank yourself later when you have your SWEET enging sitting pretty in a squeaky clean engine bay!!! ;)Oh definetely, I won't repaint it, but it will get a good degreasing.

[deltrr]

im sad i want that ):

[RedSuns]

so far everything has gone very smooth for the swap...just waiting on a few misc parts that was holding us back. On thursday we plan on dropping in the SR and then hooking up all of the accessories such as Power steering,cooling and the FMIC.We still have to do the fuel pump(which I HATE).Once we get the harness back I have good faith that this will be a strong running SR.

[TiNMAN]

good stuff, keep us updated. take pics too! visuals are the best

[RedSuns]

good stuff, keep us updated. take pics too! visuals are the best


i keep forgetting to upload the pics i took with my camera

[kazuo]

Please make sure you paint your engine bay before you drop your new motor in. It's so dissapointing seeing immaculate engines in a shit hole of an engine bay.

Who cares, its not a show car and hes not trying to win a beauty contest.

If the motor runs well and reliably.. who cares how dirty the engine bay is? It's gonna get dirty anyways. :P

IMHO...

[RedSuns]

well it is just one of those thing to make the entire swap look better

[DORIMON]

Day 3 of my SR swap...

cleaned engine bay
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SR going in
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SR finally in (getting it on the motor mounts was a bitch!)
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Blitz LM FMIC & Koyo radiator installed, and the end of day 3
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What sucks is I noticed that my Enjuku Racing HKS SSQV Hotpipe didn't line up with the piping of my fmic, I have about 2 weeks to find out what we're going to do, we were thinking maybe we could cut the hole a little bit bigger towards the rear and try to bend the ic piping back to meet the hotpipe. We'll find out next Tuesday.
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More pics still to come...

[adey]

looks like the enjuku unit may have been designed with thet stock SMIC in mind.

Are you able to angle the IC piping (ic side) towards the firewall a little bit more? If so, you might be able to use some somewhat flexible samco hosiery/piping...
Did you hook up the heater lines and stuff, or did you decide to get rid of it altogether?
Looking good so far!

[DORIMON]

looks like the enjuku unit may have been designed with thet stock SMIC in mind.

Are you able to angle the IC piping (ic side) towards the firewall a little bit more? If so, you might be able to use some somewhat flexible samco hosiery/piping...
Did you hook up the heater lines and stuff, or did you decide to get rid of it altogether?
Looking good so far!Yea, we were thinking of angling it a little bit more towards the firewall and cut the factory hole a little bit bigger and see if it lines up, if we don't find another solution by Tuesday, then we might go with that. I'm actually posting in the tech forum if anyone else has this problem. I used the heater hoses that Heavy Throttle supplied in their EZ Install Kit. Everything is actually looking really clean.

[starfireS14]

Congrats man the Blitz LM FMIC is a beast very nice. Sad to say i'll be leaving the 240sx and going to SC300 soon but it was fun while it lasted. Hey Benji your new signature should say "Get Boost or go home a loser"

[MannyG]

:bowdown: I love the ghetto motor stand!

[Muzzy]

:rofl: :rawk: :boink: yea thats on pimp engine stand u got there!! :rofl: :rawk: :boink:

[crioten]

what did you use to clean the engine bay? it came out pretty damn good looking...

[DORIMON]

Hehe, who needs an engie stand when you have spare tire lying around. :) I used some generic Advance Auto Parts engine degreaser in a spray can, let it soak in the engine bay for about 15 minutes and then sprayed everything with a garden hose and dried everything with terry towels. I then used some more terry towels with some Simple Green degreaser to get the leftover crap. Came out ok, there were some parts that seemed to just be discolored.

[focused]

Nice parts... I'm in the process of pretty much the same swap. I'm about to pull the KA out of my s14 and put a redtop in. What're you doing with your wiring?

[DORIMON]

Nice parts... I'm in the process of pretty much the same swap. I'm about to pull the KA out of my s14 and put a redtop in. What're you doing with your wiring?I went ahead and sent my harnesses out to Yuri at Heavy Throttle. I should get them back in like 2 weeks. I know I could've saved liked $268 by doing it myself, but I didn't want to be cheap after spending a lot already on the swap, plus I know its being done right.

[DORIMON]

Day 4

Cutting of the bumper
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front-end reinstalled
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Stock and Walbro fuel pump comparison
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Waiting for rewired harness (1-2 weeks)
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[Bryants95240sx]

thats gotta suck having almost everything done and having to wait on a flippin wiring harness

[SimpleS14]

Congrats on the clean swap.....I can't wait to see it running. You car is sooo fucking clean...even your painted stockies are clean. :p

[DORIMON]

thats gotta suck having almost everything done and having to wait on a flippin wiring harnessYea, this is the longest 1-2weeks of my life, hehe.

Congrats on the clean swap.....I can't wait to see it running. You car is sooo fucking clean...even your painted stockies are clean.Thanks. Everytime I go through my garage to leave or come home from work, I always have to stop for like 15 minutes and drool. :)

[nismo2491]

It's still going to be slow :p
:eek3d: :eek3d: :eek3d: :rofl:
KEvin

[cowbomb]

LOOKS NIIICE! im about to get my mine installed just wondering where the shop was located and how much for the labor?!

[DORIMON]

LOOKS NIIICE! im about to get my mine installed just wondering where the shop was located and how much for the labor?!Thanks, me and Johnathan "cIvIcKILLA240style" did the swap in my garage.

[nismo2491]

Thanks, me and Johnathan "cIvIcKILLA240style" did the swap in my garage.
yeah thats not all they did in their garage either :naughty: :naughty: :naughtyd: :naughtyd: :hahano: :hahano:
jonathan's done like 10,000 sr swaps so he knows how to do it right which is why the pics all look professional as shit.
KEvin

[RedSuns]

yeah thats not all they did in their garage either :naughty: :naughty: :naughtyd: :naughtyd: :hahano: :hahano:
jonathan's done like 10,000 sr swaps so he knows how to do it right which is why the pics all look professional as shit.
KEvin

well that was only my 11th.....but hey..I have done s13 REDTOP s13 BLACKTOP, S14 and S15...so if anyone wants a clean swap done just PM me...look at Starfire's and Zenki's for examples...PM if you ever have any questions

[focused]

Are you planning on retaining the AC? If so what's your plan for this or what did you do if you've already got it setup. thanks.

**After staring at the pictures some more I see you took off the compressor.

[DORIMON]

So I finally got my harness back from Yury last Friday, who did a perfect job on it, I had to work out a few bugs such as timing, rough idle, and discharged batteries from several cranks, then I went for my 1st ride in it today. I really went soft on the gas for my 10 mile test drive, I began the 500 mile SPEC Stage 3 clutch break-in. It was so tempting to run it hard but I never let it see past 4K rpms. HKS SSQV BOV sounds really sweet, I didn't expect the stuttered venting sound, I was expecting a high pitched whistle sound, but I guess maybe thats at full-boost. Anyway, Nismo motor mounts are VERY solid and it feels like the motor is directly attached to the chassis. Almost stalling out was very very rough. I have to work out a way for the cooling fans to not blow the cigarette lighter fuse it is attached to, or think of another source for hookup. But all in all, its been a long progress, well worth it, and I give my thanks to Johnathan for all of his help. He definetely knows his shit! As for parts, Id like to thanks Phase2, Heavy Throttle, Enjuku, and my team TSF at www.thespeedfactor.com.

[DRFT]

congrats with the install!

ps what are you gonna do with the koukibumper?

[DORIMON]

congrats with the install!

ps what are you gonna do with the koukibumper?Thanks, I'm gonna just spend some time making sure everything is running okay and reliable before I continue piecing together the kouki front-end. So, it'll be awhile from now before the bumper goes on.

[SR_TeXaN]

Where did you get your motor from and what did you do to solve the Hotpipe to IC lining up problem?

[crioten]

um, you could just put a larger amp fuse in there....

[DORIMON]

Where did you get your motor from and what did you do to solve the Hotpipe to IC lining up problem?MY team TSF has a connection for motors, so I got mine through them. I cut the whole a littl ebigger and bent the IC piping back towards the hotpipe and it lines up perfectly now.

um, you could just put a larger amp fuse in there....Yea, I decided to put a 20A fuse in, its working now.



And here is a little clip of me playing around touching 1psi in 3rd gear letting the BOV go.
right-click, save target as (http://thespeedfactor.com/files/media/Benji/test%20drive.asf)

[SR_TeXaN]

Thats a crazy A$$ BOV sound, never head anything like that before.. Definitly Different

[DORIMON]

Thats a crazy A$$ BOV sound, never head anything like that before.. Definitly DifferentYea it has a stuttered sound at low boost, but at higher boost it sounds like the usual high pitched whistle. In the clip, I was letting off the gas and then quickly getting back on it and I was noticing it would make the stuttered sound and then slightly whistle when I get back on the gas. The last rev is how it is supposed to sound when i would just let off the gas completely.

[pntbalmatt]

it sounds like a horse =-O!

[Hawd]

It's your first post and I'm going to give you some leeway.... On the top left of every post there is a Date:time stamp in white in the dark blue box/line. Next time please look at the date and dont bump 2 month old posts :)

[RedSuns]

It's your first post and I'm going to give you some leeway.... On the top left of every post there is a Date:time stamp in white in the dark blue box/line. Next time please look at the date and dont bump 2 month old posts :)


why not....he probably knows the guy

[89s132b]

The swap look great. Very clean - you took your time and did things right. A couple of Questions though...

Do you think the stuttering BOV sound might be compressor surge?

If you have the help of a guy that has done 11 SR swaps whats with the wiring harness service? I did mine with zero SR swaping experience.

[DMC]

i didnt realize an engine swap costs that much i was hoping to get mine done for around $3000

[240KAT]

i didnt realize an engine swap costs that much i was hoping to get mine done for around $3000

Its tough to, but you can. Buy a front clip and they usually come with everything you need. I know my supplier can do a front clip + replacement parts (like if your clip has a trashed rad, they'll give you a new used one) and an SR fuel pump and the like. I wouldnt try it for less than $4000.

PS: Jonathan did my swap too..now I just gotta fix my plug thing.

[mjjstang]

yah you deffinitely need to reconsider. unless u dont care bout doin it right, there were a lot of things he didnt have to get but were well worth it, ie. pan-runs risk of not bumping his out right and choking motor, ic-could use stock side mount but who wants to, clutch-could have risked his being bad and having to take motor out and dealing w that, mounts- could have kept his but im sure that the engine would be all over the place. moral of the story is to do it right costs money, oh and btw looks pretty good. wish my engine was that clean.

[DORIMON]

The swap look great. Very clean - you took your time and did things right. A couple of Questions though...

Do you think the stuttering BOV sound might be compressor surge?

If you have the help of a guy that has done 11 SR swaps whats with the wiring harness service? I did mine with zero SR swaping experience.Thanks, a lot of time and money went into the swap. At 1st I thought that it might be compressor surge but from listening to other guy's HKS SSQV bov sounds, its normal at lower boost. At 10 psi, my bov sounds like a whistle. RIGHT-CLICK, SAVE TARGET AS (http://benji.deltr.com/05-13-04VMP.MPG) As for the wiring, I didn't want to be cheap trying to do it myself, so I'd rather pay someone who knows what they're doing with an S13>S14 wiring so I can have one less headache down the road if I have to troubleshoot.

[Hawd]

which insert do you have in your bov the purple or yellow one :D ?

[DORIMON]

which insert do you have in your bov the purple or yellow one :D ?I have the standard silver one. And since this is my progress post, here is my most recent pic ofthe swap.
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