View Full Version : NO TURBO: what is the best all motor...motor?!
Mr.Clerc
07-16-2012, 08:02 AM
Whats going on guys, just a general question for my s13 coupe. I dont want to have to deal with turbos because i know more about older cars and pistons, valves and mainly just motor shit. What would be the best all motor motor i can work and put in my coupe? Just took the tranny out to put a better one in and want to actually start up my build. My car has a KA24DE fron an s14, advice is appreciated!!!
GroundPerformance
07-16-2012, 08:07 AM
If E85 is Available the area. High Compression is the way to go..
future
07-16-2012, 08:30 AM
LsX
End thread
hobbs
07-16-2012, 09:01 AM
If you want to keep it nissan I would go with a SR24VE build, they have been proven to make 300+ whp on 93.
KiLLeR2001
07-16-2012, 09:43 AM
Go with the 350z engine, VQ35.
Arireese
07-16-2012, 09:47 AM
f20.........
Ls motor. Cam, header, intake, and tune and you have a beast.
Mr.Clerc
07-16-2012, 10:25 AM
One of my original plans was to go ls but i dont know if i have the money with how much the mounts will cost along with engine and trans, but if i get a good deal i definitely wanna go ls. But on the other hand i wouldnt mind staying nissan, and i've read a million and one bad things about jdmenginedepot.com and all those sites, so where could one find a good nissan motor? :zombie:
jesse_s13
07-16-2012, 11:06 AM
Vq or Ls:hitit::hitit:
Mr.Clerc
07-16-2012, 11:30 AM
How much you think i could get a VQ with a tranny for?
shoguner
07-16-2012, 11:52 AM
One of my original plans was to go ls but i dont know if i have the money
If you don't have that much money, I don't sugest a N/A build. They can be alot more than a simple turbo set up.
but.. If i was going N/A Id do a vq35 high comp. Or a 1uz.
SCRmotorsports
07-16-2012, 11:58 AM
how much power do you want? ive seen the kits for KA's that make 250hp with stock injectors and ecu for around $1,500 i think. upgrade your fuel system and get a tune bam youl have a fun little car.
Mr.Clerc
07-16-2012, 01:47 PM
99% sure now im gunna build the KA thats already in the car, its a strong motor never drifted so i might throw money into doing forged pistons camshaft valves bigger injectors. I already ordered an N1 exhaust coming next weekend, and have a walbro fuel pump to install. I think i'd be happy with a set up like that for a little bit.... does that seem like it be a reasonable set up with a decent amount of power????
Croustibat
07-17-2012, 12:53 AM
Reasonable yet.
Decent amount of power, no.
KA is a truck engine, nissan fitted it for the US market because you guys tend to drive for a lot of miles, and they needed reliability which could not be attained with a turbo CA or SR. Dont expect power from this engine, unless (yes) you turbocharge it.
GripTerror
07-19-2012, 12:14 PM
VQ v6 or LS v8
The VQ sounds WICKED if done right, can be made very responsive but will not come close to any LS variation power wise... the chevy small blocks are also very compact and fit ridiculously in any engine bay...
1uz sounds great but makes shit for power.
LS v8 if done right would ultimately reap the most benefit.
VQ would be something on more of a budget but STILL will end up costing tons...
S14DB
07-19-2012, 12:30 PM
Reasonable yet.
Decent amount of power, no.
KA is a truck engine, nissan fitted it for the US market because you guys tend to drive for a lot of miles, and they needed reliability which could not be attained with a turbo CA or SR. Dont expect power from this engine, unless (yes) you turbocharge it.
The only Vehicle the KA was put in before the 240sx was a Minivan in Japan. There were several cars it was put in before it ended up in trucks.
It was put in the 240sx because the CA18/SR20DET made more power than the NA 300zx and Nissan USA did not want it to compete with it. The CA18/SR20DE was thought to not be peppy enough for the US.
If your statements were true why did they bring the Z31 over with the turbo motor?
The KA's head flows horribly and the long stroke make it less than ideal for a NA build.
If you know about old piston motors. The LS* series would be ideal. Push Rods and all.
NO replacement for displacement. Can't go wrong with any LS variant. I personally stay away from the VQ swaps since all the ones I have seen have the oil pan sit really low. Plus you can't beat the sound of a nice hot cam V8.
Feast Japan
07-19-2012, 06:19 PM
Having been in the NA scene with my S14 for awhile, I would say go the SR20DE route. I nearly bought the motor below before finally putting DET into it just recently.
Had all sorts of tweaking, Nismo 296 duration cams, extensive head work, Jun bottom end, circa 250PS easily.
http://auctions.c.yimg.jp/img335.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/users/2/1/0/7/akr2008gt-img600x450-1339395349ofddam16285.jpg
http://auctions.c.yimg.jp/img335.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/users/2/1/0/7/akr2008gt-img600x450-1339395349jb9ivy16285.jpg
If your on a budget, stick it out with the early S13 SR20DE; Pulsar N15 N1 pistons, high lift cams, extensive port work. Nismo N2 4 throttle kits are still popping up used here and there but mind you will have to switch over to airflow less CPU.
Ill be going back to S13 with this sort of build down the road. Totally regret tweaking the S14, just a heavier car and not true to N2 racing routes as the S13 was.
AsleepAltima
07-19-2012, 06:47 PM
The only Vehicle the KA was put in before the 240sx was a Minivan in Japan. There were several cars it was put in before it ended up in trucks.
It was put in the 240sx because the CA18/SR20DET made more power than the NA 300zx and Nissan USA did not want it to compete with it. The CA18/SR20DE was thought to not be peppy enough for the US.
thank you. i cant stand it when people call it a "truck" motor. it didnt start life that way.
Croustibat
07-20-2012, 02:50 AM
TBH i could not care less. I dont care where it comes, the KA24DE has nothing to do under the hood of a sports car, it just is a reliable engine with no power.
You can either believe the crap you did read on wikipedia or think for yourself.
Truth is America is the only place in the world where you get that engine in an S13/S14 chassis, and not the only place where Z31 NA was sold. Seeing how turbo CA/SR need frequent maintenance, they would just have massively failed in the US, which would be much worse than having more power than the bigger GT model from the same seller.
Anyway, any LSx engine is quite fun in these. There also are some fab kits to fit them quite easily.
Slammed Assassin
07-20-2012, 03:14 AM
Ive had good experience with vq thus far..
inopsey
07-20-2012, 08:13 AM
:whip:TBH i could not care less. I dont care where it comes, the KA24DE has nothing to do under the hood of a sports car, it just is a reliable engine with no power.
You can either believe the crap you did read on wikipedia or think for yourself.
Truth is America is the only place in the world where you get that engine in an S13/S14 chassis, and not the only place where Z31 NA was sold. Seeing how turbo CA/SR need frequent maintenance, they would just have massively failed in the US, which would be much worse than having more power than the bigger GT model from the same seller.
nice to see you have your head up your ass again and only believe what you think is true.
Kingtal0n
07-20-2012, 08:28 AM
Whats going on guys, just a general question for my s13 coupe. I dont want to have to deal with turbos because i know more about older cars and pistons, valves and mainly just motor shit. What would be the best all motor motor i can work and put in my coupe? Just took the tranny out to put a better one in and want to actually start up my build. My car has a KA24DE fron an s14, advice is appreciated!!!
LSx engine is the only way to go. available, swap kits are done, hundreds of pictures, everybody knows about it and can help with wiring etc...
All motor performance means you lose all 4-cylinder engines as an option.
unless you feel that < 250 horsepower is considered "performance" in which case...
Mcpot132
07-22-2012, 02:59 PM
If you want to keep it nissan I would go with a SR24VE build, they have been proven to make 300+ whp on 93.
Anybody have any input on this type of motor??? Sounds interesting
Mr.Clerc
07-22-2012, 03:51 PM
Dam guys haha you're all making me think about going LS. Im still gunna give it some thought but as of now LS would be the best way to go for me considering my step dad built his 67 camaro rs/ss with a 406.....he might be able to help haha! Thanks for all the input, keep it coming. Also if anybody wants a steal on a Blitz Nur Spec for an S14 pm me or check out my thread in the for sale section
EhrikETFG
07-22-2012, 04:00 PM
vg 34
PureRush
07-22-2012, 04:57 PM
You all are dumb. VH45 all day erry day
NoPistons!
07-23-2012, 10:14 AM
vg 34
This BUT i feel if you have the money a vq is the better engine.
VG's are for poor people and people who just really like doing something with outdated technology. That's why i play with em. They have terrible harmonics. Just food for thought. It's some money to put a vg30de crank into a single cam block too. Just to take advantage of using a GOOD harmonic balancer. VG30e's are notorious for spinning bearings at higher power levels. I'm convinced the oiling system is up to par with a shimmed pump or turbo z31 pump but i went as far to have my rotating assembly fully balanced and crank micropolished/recut and STILL might fuck it all up. There's some vg30dett's making 600-700whp BOOSTED daily driven. Never once have been cracked open for "building".
If you want to enjoy your car and drive it now and keep your ka it's mad easy to just throw a t28 on it, some injectors, management and squeeze about 250ish out of it. More has been made internally stock but isn't often recommended. Dont be intimidated by turbocharging. Lots of people have have broken 5 year mark on simple ka-t setups without breaking anything.
As long as you keep this enjoyable for you it shouldn't be difficult. Dont bite off more you can chew. Stick to what you know and build onto it with things you dont and you will have way more fun. VQ and LS swaps have prefab swap kits and a host of writeups available to aid you. People can throw the originality card up all day but in the end you just can't mess with the tried and true setups that work most of the time......
Mofuhcka
07-23-2012, 06:48 PM
If you wanted a nice NA build go with a 2JZ-GE. They are great engines and you can do alot to them before going TT
raz0rbladez909
07-23-2012, 07:15 PM
If you do go with the VQ, make sure you go with the HR version. Much better overall!
NoPistons!
07-24-2012, 11:33 AM
240sxONE Tech » Blog Archive » How to Swap an LS1 into a 240SX Part 1 (http://tech.240sxone.com/365/how-to-swap-an-ls1-into-a-240sx-part-1/)
People hate because it's true. LS is a very, very, very good engine.
Weigh the pros and cons.
Pros: Kills everything. So easy to tune a baby can do it and they do. Chicks dig v8's.
Cons: Dont even worry about those.
Mr.Clerc
07-24-2012, 03:55 PM
240sxONE Tech » Blog Archive » How to Swap an LS1 into a 240SX Part 1 (http://tech.240sxone.com/365/how-to-swap-an-ls1-into-a-240sx-part-1/)
People hate because it's true. LS is a very, very, very good engine.
Weigh the pros and cons.
Pros: Kills everything. So easy to tune a baby can do it and they do. Chicks dig v8's.
Cons: Dont even worry about those.
HAHAHAHAHAHA thumbs up i feel you.
Now, I dont want to come off as a cheap bastard but I am kinda on my own with funds being 17 years old. Where would be the best place to find an LS motor, like local craigslist ads or are there some not shady websites on the internet I can scoop one for cheap?
S14DB
07-24-2012, 04:10 PM
Look for wrecked cars to pull one out of.
surge s14
07-24-2012, 04:40 PM
Just go all turbo no motor!
Vitzio240sx
07-24-2012, 04:49 PM
There's no replacement for displacement...
Mr.Clerc
07-24-2012, 04:53 PM
Just go all turbo no motor!
Hahaha nar
Thats not a bad idea though, im bout to go hit up some local junkyards lol
ivantheterribl3
07-24-2012, 05:03 PM
Many of us have been in your shoes guy. I have a car I got all crazy with and started building a mtor for when I was 17 and moneyless. It now sits in my garage collecting dust. It'll get done one day once the drifting bug subsides (if it ever does) but my best advice to you, is to be patient, save your money, spend then next couple years polishing your abilities by maintaining your car yourself and becoming a better driver with less power. Read up as much as you can on alll kinds of motors, and make a decision on a build when you have the proper knowledge to have a complete opinion on what kind of engine you desire.
Just my .02
PureRush
07-24-2012, 05:22 PM
VH45<===LS1
Way more affordable if you just want a stock V8 with good power an torque. Swap can be done for less than $2K
Mr.Clerc
07-24-2012, 06:05 PM
Many of us have been in your shoes guy. I have a car I got all crazy with and started building a mtor for when I was 17 and moneyless. It now sits in my garage collecting dust. It'll get done one day once the drifting bug subsides (if it ever does) but my best advice to you, is to be patient, save your money, spend then next couple years polishing your abilities by maintaining your car yourself and becoming a better driver with less power. Read up as much as you can on alll kinds of motors, and make a decision on a build when you have the proper knowledge to have a complete opinion on what kind of engine you desire.
Just my .02
I hear you man, that what my two dads and moms keep telling me but my plan after my last year of high school is to join the Marines, and im 100% serious about joining too so i have a very little amount of time before im gone for a while. But as for right now im getting the car where i want it and learning about it before i even touch my engine. The point of the thread was to just get my bearings on what i want to do with her but i do respect and appreciate your opinion and understand where you're coming from
hotlavaflow
07-24-2012, 06:15 PM
The VH45DE is nice esp if you don't feel like going internal and if you don't mind cutting your hood. Shoehorn it in there and drive and it sounds nasty.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOBDN24m3lE&feature=related
ivantheterribl3
07-24-2012, 08:35 PM
Well in that case, just LS it. Or do a honda motor. Imho there's no other motors worth doing an n/a build with. And hondas are super ghey
feito
07-24-2012, 09:28 PM
this is actually not bad of a thread. It keeps pushing me to put a 20v on a aw11, but this is 240 talk... im probably gonna read more on that sr20ve, it sure would be nice to have a 200hp high revving n/a 4 cyl on an s13
240sxONE Tech » Blog Archive » How to Swap an LS1 into a 240SX Part 1 (http://tech.240sxone.com/365/how-to-swap-an-ls1-into-a-240sx-part-1/)
People hate because it's true. LS is a very, very, very good engine.
Weigh the pros and cons.
Pros: Kills everything. So easy to tune a baby can do it and they do. Chicks dig v8's.
Cons: Dont even worry about those.
SO TRUE it hurts all the JDM fanboi followers. Like I said before, LSx variant is the best way to go. Its reliable, easy to source parts since its a domestic and parts from the dealer are not insane. Lets not forget oh the NICE abundant wonderful aftermarket support for these motors. VH45 if your on a tight budget and want to hack-up your front support to squeeze it in there. Not to mention if you want to go bigger than the 5.7L LS1/LS6 there's other options if you have more $$$ like 6.0L LS2 and the 6.3L LS3 both you can leave stock and have loads of fun oh did i forget to mention you CAN make it a CARB LEGAL swap if you spend the time like a few people have.
Mr.Clerc
07-25-2012, 06:09 PM
SO TRUE it hurts all the JDM fanboi followers. Like I said before, LSx variant is the best way to go. Its reliable, easy to source parts since its a domestic and parts from the dealer are not insane. Lets not forget oh the NICE abundant wonderful aftermarket support for these motors. VH45 if your on a tight budget and want to hack-up your front support to squeeze it in there. Not to mention if you want to go bigger than the 5.7L LS1/LS6 there's other options if you have more $$$ like 6.0L LS2 and the 6.3L LS3 both you can leave stock and have loads of fun oh did i forget to mention you CAN make it a CARB LEGAL swap if you spend the time like a few people have.
When you say carb legal...you mean it is legal to have a carburated 240?
This thread blew up more than i thought it would and i recieved A LOT of input so thanks to errrybody!! But I've come to the conclusion that eventually there will be an LS motor varient in my car :D
Thanks again thumbs up Zilvians!!!! :wavey:
S14DB
07-25-2012, 07:35 PM
When you say carb legal...you mean it is legal to have a carburated 240?
Air Resources Board - Homepage (http://www.arb.ca.gov/homepage.htm)
Croustibat
07-26-2012, 01:47 AM
SO TRUE it hurts all the JDM fanboi followers. Like I said before, LSx variant is the best way to go. Its reliable, easy to source parts since its a domestic and parts from the dealer are not insane. Lets not forget oh the NICE abundant wonderful aftermarket support for these motors. VH45 if your on a tight budget and want to hack-up your front support to squeeze it in there. Not to mention if you want to go bigger than the 5.7L LS1/LS6 there's other options if you have more $$$ like 6.0L LS2 and the 6.3L LS3 both you can leave stock and have loads of fun oh did i forget to mention you CAN make it a CARB LEGAL swap if you spend the time like a few people have.
Only on markets that have V8's though :D
I'd love to get an LSx in my S13. But importing one from the US and getting the transmission would cost 2 or 3 times what i already paid for it. So sticking with my OEM CA18DET :D
Om1kron
07-26-2012, 02:56 AM
One of my original plans was to go ls but i dont know if i have the money with how much the mounts will cost along with engine and trans, but if i get a good deal i definitely wanna go ls. But on the other hand i wouldnt mind staying nissan, and i've read a million and one bad things about jdmenginedepot.com and all those sites, so where could one find a good nissan motor? :zombie:
In a nutshell, you probably don't have the money to make any of your ricer dreams come true. This is the reality that people can't seem to face when they think that a car is some kind of return investment. Once they make the realization that they can't afford to make the version of their car they hoped and dreamed for even slapping every fake part to make up for the slack of their budget on it. doing a couple of shit events and realizing you need to move on with life and grow up.
You'll quickly realize that the people replying to this thread with advice have not made the jumps with their builds or projects their suggesting because they too have realized they don't have the money to go through with half of the shit they post on these forums. And the few that do add up the stresses of spending the money vs the fun they're having with the car and silently disappear from here just like you will until we get the next wave of people who just bought a 240, want to get an fd license, or be the next senna.
And the few who are actually doing what they post on the forums are still building their cars, will never finish building their cars, and even if it seems done there is always more to do.
In the end it depends on where you're sitting in life.
That's pretty much the best answer you're going to get in this thread.
I can tell if you can't afford an LSX swap which will run 10 grand for everything to get it running out the door, anyone who tells you otherwise hasn't done it or has an LSX swap sitting around uninstalled because they're waiting for more parts to get it working. OR CAME UP.
I can tell you won't be able to afford any nissan v6 swap because those run around 7-8k for everything and not a lot of people do them, very few and you're not going to be able to take the car to someone and have them press a magic button to make everything easy for you and if you do find them you can't afford their time.
If you don't want to bother with a 2500-6000 dollar sr20 swap with a turbo you can always just keep the car KA and enjoy all of the natural abilities of that motor it has to offer and focus on making the car nicer in other areas.
Making power, sustaining that power, and maintaining that power all cost a lot of money.
And when people post "what should I get, but I don't think I can afford this" then the thread stops right fucking there and this should be quoted in EVERY thread someone posts about what should they do to their new car while working extra hours at the dairy queen thinking that they're going to have a team burst car with 6 months of paychecks and tons of free labor from awesome friends.
Because that's not reality.
KiLLeR2001
07-26-2012, 03:07 AM
^ Wayne T. Edwards speaks the truf.
I think you have to be a little insane to go from start to finish on a car build. All my friends and family that aren't into cars look at me like, "Why are you doing all this to your car?"
Most people wake up one day and go "Enough is enough." Then you'll see the car for sale or a part out thread. As for me, there is no stopping. The goal has been set, and the goal will be achieved.
Croustibat
07-26-2012, 03:21 AM
[...]
Making power, sustaining that power, and maintaining that power all cost a lot of money.
[...]
Agreed on everything you posted.
Still, sometimes it is nice to dream a bit ;)
I have "somewhat finished" my S13, after something like 4 or 5 years of work. And my goal was quite simple; no engine rebuild nor swap, circa 300HP (my car came with a CA18DET as it is a european one, so thats a basic "stage 3" design running e85) and a chassis that can handle it.
And it really feels good now. But it frustrated me for 4 years, working on it every week, breaking things, learning and so on.
The thing is, no stock car feels like that. Not even porsches i tried. And i cant afford them anyway.
It runs and i am quite happy with it :2f2f:
Still you are right, it is unfinished. I need to glue the spoiler, change some bushes, find faulty couplers that sometimes leak, and so on.
I know it will never be finished. And it probably will end its life in some tyre walls on a track. When that happens ... i will get/build a true race car, because i like that, and because i acquired some skills when buliding the S13. Oh, and because i know how much its costs, and how much money i have to spend. That is a very important thing :D
Mr.Clerc
07-26-2012, 05:41 PM
In a nutshell, you probably don't have the money to make any of your ricer dreams come true. This is the reality that people can't seem to face when they think that a car is some kind of return investment. Once they make the realization that they can't afford to make the version of their car they hoped and dreamed for even slapping every fake part to make up for the slack of their budget on it. doing a couple of shit events and realizing you need to move on with life and grow up.
You'll quickly realize that the people replying to this thread with advice have not made the jumps with their builds or projects their suggesting because they too have realized they don't have the money to go through with half of the shit they post on these forums. And the few that do add up the stresses of spending the money vs the fun they're having with the car and silently disappear from here just like you will until we get the next wave of people who just bought a 240, want to get an fd license, or be the next senna.
And the few who are actually doing what they post on the forums are still building their cars, will never finish building their cars, and even if it seems done there is always more to do.
In the end it depends on where you're sitting in life.
That's pretty much the best answer you're going to get in this thread.
I can tell if you can't afford an LSX swap which will run 10 grand for everything to get it running out the door, anyone who tells you otherwise hasn't done it or has an LSX swap sitting around uninstalled because they're waiting for more parts to get it working. OR CAME UP.
I can tell you won't be able to afford any nissan v6 swap because those run around 7-8k for everything and not a lot of people do them, very few and you're not going to be able to take the car to someone and have them press a magic button to make everything easy for you and if you do find them you can't afford their time.
If you don't want to bother with a 2500-6000 dollar sr20 swap with a turbo you can always just keep the car KA and enjoy all of the natural abilities of that motor it has to offer and focus on making the car nicer in other areas.
Making power, sustaining that power, and maintaining that power all cost a lot of money.
And when people post "what should I get, but I don't think I can afford this" then the thread stops right fucking there and this should be quoted in EVERY thread someone posts about what should they do to their new car while working extra hours at the dairy queen thinking that they're going to have a team burst car with 6 months of paychecks and tons of free labor from awesome friends.
Because that's not reality.
Again everyone is entitled to their opinion and yes that is reality. But the reality for me is I work my ass off every day for 11 hours weed whacking at 17 years old. When I Want to do something I get it done or i try my hardest and dont give up. And yes thats what everyone who has been around my car is saying "Oh you'll never get it done, your a fronter ect." blah blah blah I know what my abilities are and how to use them so when I say there will be an LS in my car....there will be an LS in my car. Believe me or not, hater or realest thanks for sharing man.
Matej
07-26-2012, 09:02 PM
Having been in the NA scene with my S14 for awhile, I would say go the SR20DE route. I nearly bought the motor below before finally putting DET into it just recently.
Had all sorts of tweaking, Nismo 296 duration cams, extensive head work, Jun bottom end, circa 250PS easily.
http://auctions.c.yimg.jp/img335.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/users/2/1/0/7/akr2008gt-img600x450-1339395349ofddam16285.jpg
http://auctions.c.yimg.jp/img335.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/users/2/1/0/7/akr2008gt-img600x450-1339395349jb9ivy16285.jpg
If your on a budget, stick it out with the early S13 SR20DE; Pulsar N15 N1 pistons, high lift cams, extensive port work. Nismo N2 4 throttle kits are still popping up used here and there but mind you will have to switch over to airflow less CPU.
Ill be going back to S13 with this sort of build down the road. Totally regret tweaking the S14, just a heavier car and not true to N2 racing routes as the S13 was.
Please do teach me more about this, or point me to some literature.
I have been seriously considering selling my SR20DET and finding an SR20DE.
Mainly because I do not really feel like dealing with turbo stuff, and the SR20DE seems like an even simpler, smaller, and lighter KA. :)
codyace
07-26-2012, 09:08 PM
Please do teach me more about this, or point me to some literature.
I have been seriously considering selling my SR20DET and finding an SR20DE.
Mainly because I do not really feel like dealing with turbo stuff, and the SR20DE seems like an even simpler, smaller, and lighter KA. :)
I mean this in the nicest way possible, but if you can't handle working with a simple det, than an involved DE isn't the way to go (having had MANY friends do the same)
Matej
07-26-2012, 09:56 PM
I mean this in the nicest way possible, but if you can't handle working with a simple det, than an involved DE isn't the way to go (having had MANY friends do the same)
My aspirations are nowhere near that motor, I am only curious. Mainly about the Reytec ECU.
If I do go for the DE, it will just be a plug-and-play swap with some generic bolt-on parts.
And it is not that I cannot handle my DET, I just do not really care to anymore. :)
Croustibat
07-27-2012, 06:56 AM
Again everyone is entitled to their opinion and yes that is reality. But the reality for me is I work my ass off every day for 11 hours weed whacking at 17 years old. When I Want to do something I get it done or i try my hardest and dont give up. And yes thats what everyone who has been around my car is saying "Oh you'll never get it done, your a fronter ect." blah blah blah I know what my abilities are and how to use them so when I say there will be an LS in my car....there will be an LS in my car. Believe me or not, hater or realest thanks for sharing man.
Ok i am going to try to say it another way.
As you say, you are working every day for 11h and not getting a lot of money for that.
Why dont you just wait until you get enough money per month to do it without having to sell an arm and a leg, and spend your hard earned cash on something else ? Chances are that in a couple years, you will earn in a week what you now earn in a couple of months. And when you will think back about it, you'd think "i was stupid to use all my money on a stupid car that needed even more money to just run".
You are 17, have fun with your car in the current state, get tyres and chassis elements to drive the crap out of it and have an overall fun in your life.
When you hit 20 and get money in an easier way, make the swap. What is the point in spending maybe 1 year worth of hard work on an engine, when a couple of years later it will just be a 2 month bill ?
Better enjoy the fun of being young while you can. Because it does not last.
codyace
07-27-2012, 07:16 AM
My aspirations are nowhere near that motor, I am only curious. Mainly about the Reytec ECU.
If I do go for the DE, it will just be a plug-and-play swap with some generic bolt-on parts.
And it is not that I cannot handle my DET, I just do not really care to anymore. :)
Ah, I misunderstood you then on that one. I was under the impression you were having issues.
Maybe even consider a Calum ECU for the setup too, or Nistune.
Matej
07-31-2012, 01:19 AM
As tempting as it has been to sell my DET and buy a complete SR20DE setup, lately I have been more and more inclined to keep it and try out the SR16VE/SR20VE head swap.
Unfortunately information on it is scattered all throughout the internet, and a lot of it is false. It would be neat if Zilvia compiled a guide for it, including a list of necessary parts, accessories available to make it easier, and et cetera.
I am sure the swap will only keep becoming more common.
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