Would you rather.....

[SoCalDrifter]

ok guys so i dont know what to do maybe someone can help set me straight

Its time for me to dump my money into my motor but what sounds like a better idea build the SR i have for $5.5k and its fully built 500whp or should i get a ls1 swap which would be a stock ls1 not built for my drift car

Im doubting going SR because i figure a ls1 can be more reliable seeing that its NA and a v8 but am i wrong?? The SR is being fully built by the SR20 Store and I would have to find a shop that does a stock ls1 swap but my friends trying to tell me he can get me one for $6k what do you guys think?

thanks for the help if any of that made sense

[lalo167]

I don't know much about SR or LS motors but like you said, the ls will be a stock motor so a lot more reliable and you can find parts for those motors at autozone/pep boys easily!

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you seem confused as to what it is you want. V8 LS swap vs a built SR.
2 different worlds between the 2

[2muchboost]

Agreed.....

Think about your purpose for the build (drifting vs drag vs autocross vs daily)

Think about your power goals.....and be realistic (none of this 1200hp shit)

Both motors have been proven to be reliable depending on your approach.

I will give you my personal choice. I had a fully built SR (I mean fully) and was aiming for a reliable 500hp daily. Then I decided to sell because I see many many 2jz powered cars pushing that kind of power fully stock without much concern for reliability....Toyota over-engineered these engines. I knew I wanted a 2jz over an LS1 because I wanted to stick with a turbo powered car (not that you cant power an LS).

So again.....you need to remember that you are not comparing apples to apples when your considering an LS vs an SR.

BTW....most of my friends have LS 1 or 2 powered 240sx's and I can honestly say I LOVE the sound of those engines :)

[SoCalDrifter]

Agreed.....

Think about your purpose for the build (drifting vs drag vs autocross vs daily)

Think about your power goals.....and be realistic (none of this 1200hp shit)

Both motors have been proven to be reliable depending on your approach.

So again.....you need to remember that you are not comparing apples to apples when your considering an LS vs an SR.


well the purpose of the build for my car would be for drifting thats the only thing i use my s13 for im looking for around 350-450whp

you seem confused as to what it is you want. V8 LS swap vs a built SR.
2 different worlds between the 2

i am confused thats why im asking haha i always wanted a ls1 and i know in the long run it will b worth it but its just so expensive but i already have my Sr thats why i was questioning building it

I don't know much about SR or LS motors but like you said, the ls will be a stock motor so a lot more reliable and you can find parts for those motors at autozone/pep boys easily!

ya this is true but u can always find SR parts on here in socal pretty easily

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SR tried and true 500hp while still being realible is easy as long as it is built right

[picsbypenny]

LS always room for improvement... and once you save up another couple thousand(25k lol )
APS TT Kit :)

[SoCalDrifter]

SR tried and true 500hp while still being realible is easy as long as it is built right

The SR would be fully built and everything done at the SR20 store so everything is done the right way

LS always room for improvement... and once you save up another couple thousand(25k lol )
APS TT Kit :)

and im not getting that crazy haha way to much money for my 240


Now if you guys had the choice and this was your 5-7k to spend what would you be doing 1.) a fully built SR 500whp 2.) a LS1 if you can find it in for that price or 3.) a 1jz/2jz or if you guys have any other opinions lmk

thanks everyone

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you say this is a "drift car" so basically a race car but you want it to last more or less yet bea the living piss out of it right.
well when the LSx falls apart you have to folk out the $ to fix it same with any other dont think about the up front cost you need to think long run etc.
plus i dont believe in cross breeding motor/chassis but thats just me.

LS always room for improvement... and once you save up another couple thousand(25k lol )
APS TT Kit :)

thats rediculious i could build a nasty turbo set up with 15-25% of that

[Walperstyle]

after spending $9000 on my ka-T project engine that has not been finished, I wish I had gone V8.

LS or 302 ford, ...matters not. Its a lot easier to fabricate some mounts and tranny bracket for me then it is to learn how to tune an AEM series 2 with wild cams on a 4 cylinder.

Either enjoy the ride learning, or get out and let someone do the work for you.

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where are people coming up with the #'s of $9k $25K etc?

[SoCalDrifter]

after spending $9000 on my ka-T project engine that has not been finished, I wish I had gone V8.

LS or 302 ford, ...matters not. Its a lot easier to fabricate some mounts and tranny bracket for me then it is to learn how to tune an AEM series 2 with wild cams on a 4 cylinder.

Either enjoy the ride learning, or get out and let someone do the work for you.


this is why i was saying the motor would be fully taken care of/built at the SR 20 store so everything goes smooth as possible instead of me doing it and taking forever and running into inssues on the way that i would rather not have to deal with.

But lets say you knew what you were doing on your KA-T and knew what you were getting into would you still regret it and go LS or stay KA?

[SoCalDrifter]

I am no longer stuck on LS being that it will be to exspensive for me right now so now im stuck on either fully built SR or doing something with a 1JZ anyone know how much a full swap would be for a 1J??

thanks

[nomoremk2]

It sounds like you have no idea what you're looking for. No one can say "yeah this is how much a 1j swap costs." There are far too many variables to even begin to give you a ball park. Start doing research, figure out your power goals and where you want your powerband to be. You're hopping all over the place. Turbo 4cyl, V8, turbo 6cyl. They all behave completely differently and have weight differences that affect handling. How long have you been drifting the car? An sr with minor mods is more than enough for most non a class guys.

[future]

You can not swap a LsX for 6k, im in the middle of my swap. You can do a lm maybe, but not a ls.

[SoCalDrifter]

It sounds like you have no idea what you're looking for. No one can say "yeah this is how much a 1j swap costs." There are far too many variables to even begin to give you a ball park. Start doing research, figure out your power goals and where you want your powerband to be. You're hopping all over the place. Turbo 4cyl, V8, turbo 6cyl. They all behave completely differently and have weight differences that affect handling. How long have you been drifting the car? An sr with minor mods is more than enough for most non a class guys.

ya i know it seems like that but i just dont know what to do because money is tight right now cause im also in the process of building my BMW up but im elminiating things as i go trying to make it "easier" on myself im just trying to get other peoples opionion on what motor and what they would do to have some other kind of out look on what im doing not trying to be all over the place just weighinig out my choices. And Ive been drifting for about 3 years now

And usually shops have set prices for stock swaps then swaps with builds also but i was asking whats like the usual cost of a 1jz more or less then 6k is what i was asking really

[SoCalDrifter]

You can not swap a LsX for 6k, im in the middle of my swap. You can do a lm maybe, but not a ls.


ya i know my friends trying to tell me he can get me it fully swapped in and everythign for 6-7k thats why i said nvm on the LS because i know it wont happen for the funds i have

[adrians_s13]

all I wanna say is, you can't go wrong with a built motor done at SR20store. Those dude's know their stuff, so I wouldn't necessarily say that reliability is a factor. I've seen a lot of their customers cars, and unlike a bunch of mom& pop drift shops, sr20store doesn't mickey mouse their work.

However, if you're looking for a serious responsive motor, going with a big turbo on a 4 banger vs a n/a v8... you're gonna get a better low end response from that v8.

[240dream]

Part out the sr20 and go v8. You say you want to drift and alot of the big name drifters went v8 so there must be some logic behind it

[scott883]

Get a stock ls1 at pick a part with trans for 500buck, build it and be a man. Fuck that sr baby shit

[twinspool]

I was in the same boat as you are right now, debating on whether or not building sr or get something else I waited a while then found a rb25 locally for really good price so I got that.

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Get a stock ls1 at pick a part with trans for 500buck, build it and be a man. Fuck that sr baby shit

Lol such harsh feelings

[scott883]

Just sayin bro price wise spend ur money to tune a sr when u can get an ls stock 350 it's ur call. Don't be a fanboi Jdm Isnt always the awnser

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Just sayin bro price wise spend ur money to tune a sr when u can get an ls stock 350 it's ur call. Don't be a fanboi Jdm Isnt always the awnser

It isn't a matter of Being a fanboy this guy doesn't even know what he wants.
Plus let's throw a v8 in anything and " ya I got a v8 I'm big and bad" then get their ass handed to them by a 4 banger. Then Again I guess I'm a kid kuz I don't play with v8's huh
Just saying "bro"

[scott883]

He said sr.... Fanboy there's plenty of swaps worth knowing he's just a fanboy and cool u spent abunch of money on ur cool 4 banger o know bro, don't get socked

[fliprayzin240sx]

Personally, not too impressed with LS1 swaps. Been in one, I prefer turbo engines more.

Since you already have your SR, freshen it up with HG, ARP studs, better cams, a lil head work, bigger injectors, zmaf, PFC and a GT2871R. Itll still be cheaper than going LS1 swap.

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He said sr.... Fanboy there's plenty of swaps worth knowing he's just a fanboy and cool u spent abunch of money on ur cool 4 banger o know bro, don't get socked

LS swaps are all the rage at the moment and just another cost tail to grab on to.
Good power can be made without spending a lot and I have proven that. I don't even have head work and I'm already knockin on 600 you could keep your Ls And you wouldn't be able to sock no one of you can't keep up
Do you even have a LSx? Based on what your saying you don't sound like you have experience with any of it

[scott883]

You sound like a lover of cock santos

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Ya that's a smart, I'm sure the OP appreciates your input

[Akito86]

Rb25 Sounds sexy and boost up fast.

[scott883]

I'm sure he does brother

[twinspool]

lmao man you guys need to quit whining about ls swaps, just buy a vette if you want ls and keep it in the vette would work much better with its drivetrain anyway. Yes I am not a fan of v8 swapped 240

[2muchboost]

Lol love how every one of these threads ends up in a verbal conflict......

Again, be realistic about your goals and your pockets. A Jz swap and an LS swap arent as cheap (for most) as it seems at first unless you do lots of research and look at every single variable that you need.

The SR is a great motor as are the other options......again the wallet is usually what dictates how realistic it is for a swap to be completed.

I had a fully built SR.....have driven in numerous LS powered 240sx's.....and have driven and am currently building a JZ swapped 240sx. Honestly if I were going to build a drift car on a budget I would stick with KA or SR powered car. If I was going to build a drift car with more money...I would personally go LS powered. Just my 2 cents

GL with your decision and keep us posted on your build.

[twinspool]

^hey I don't want to hear your noise! lol jk

[scott883]

Ka-t>sr grow those baby dicks

[2muchboost]

Hahah even I get beatup I see...

BTW drove my friends built KA motor and was impressed with the response curve on that baby.

[badbob2121]

Get a stock ls1 at pick a part with trans for 500buck, build it and be a man. Fuck that sr baby shit

He said sr.... Fanboy there's plenty of swaps worth knowing he's just a fanboy and cool u spent abunch of money on ur cool 4 banger o know bro, don't get socked

You sound like a lover of cock santos


http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy317/badbob2121/Crying_Baby_Natural_High_for_Some_Moms.jpg

[ManoNegra]

VET - LS powerband to 8000rmp without the mullet shame.

[scott883]

http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy317/badbob2121/Crying_Baby_Natural_High_for_Some_Moms.jpg

You must be the one of which whom he loves his cock, don't see where I cried anywhere in this post. Brother