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s13chica
02-18-2004, 12:46 PM
I recently recieved an interesting, and very hurtful, instant message from a person in the 240 community. It basically stated that he had heard from other 240 owners that I was a money grubbing bitch, and that everything that I have ever done to my car was purchased by a boyfriend! This chat continued to go on about how I only dated people so they could buy me stuff, and how I never have done anything on my own for my car...

The reason I bring up this conversation is because I want people to talk to my face if they have shit to say, please confront me about it, don't talk behind my back. I'm sorry if you have a small penis, and you feel threatened becasue there is a girl with a nicer car than you, but shut the F*CK up!

Whoever said this shit, and you know who you are, really hurt my feelings...I was actually in tears when I heard this. You guys wonder why there are no girls in the car community...THIS IS WHY! It takes a lot to be in a community largely dominated by males, and then when we start to hear these kind of comments, it makes us want to leave.

I know not everyone is like this, and the people who give me support are throught of in very high regards, but I am really hurt right now, so I just needed to let everyone know how I feel.

HiPSI
02-18-2004, 01:03 PM
if you let it bother you that much then i'd tend to think what was said is true to some degree. i don't know you or anything about you but from your story it seem you're easily hurt by stupid comments and remarks. so what if someone says those things? are they true? if not then why fret, there's no reason to get so upset about it.;)

the240sxer95
02-18-2004, 01:11 PM
yup yup ^^ agreed =] no just ignore him/block or what ever no need to listen to that rubbish

DRFT
02-18-2004, 01:15 PM
ignore the dude, sorry to hear about this though, but just look pass it. theres idiots everywhere

s13chica
02-18-2004, 01:17 PM
I was just saying that it is really stupid that people have to be such haters... It's not true, I just hate people who talk shit behind my back...say it to my face please, at least that way I can deffend myself!

Brian
02-18-2004, 01:17 PM
whoever it was, was obviously a jealous pussy.
simple as that.

Brian
02-18-2004, 01:21 PM
by the way, are you coming down for d1? your car hasnt 100% blinded me yet. ;)

s13chica
02-18-2004, 01:24 PM
I can't come down for d1 because I am organizing a fundraiser that is on the 27th..I'm totally bummed...oh well..nothing I can do about it

Brian
02-18-2004, 01:32 PM
well goodluck with your fundraiser.
at least you can save that large amount of money it would cost to come down to the event.

tsunami0ne
02-18-2004, 01:41 PM
go track his IP address

Jeff240sx
02-18-2004, 01:42 PM
I'm Captain Can't Post.
-Jeff

hondaguy
02-18-2004, 02:29 PM
dont listen to him he juss dick lick,
ps ur car is hott

NZO
02-18-2004, 02:29 PM
Haters wanna hate, lovers wanna love, I dont even want none of the above I want to....

Var
02-18-2004, 02:31 PM
:jerkit:

some ppl are so inconsiderate. i feel bad they had to take their jealous agression out on you.

No Motiv
02-18-2004, 02:35 PM
Haters wanna hate, lovers wanna love, I dont even want none of the above I want to....

hahaha that was corny....


yeah dont worry about it.....fuck that guy :madfawk:

I wish there were more girls into cars .... its always a big suasage fest....much respect and rock on :rawk:

airsoft
02-18-2004, 02:37 PM
probably someone laughing on the other end, not meaning anything being retarded.

my frog is like pretty huge now btw...

nightwalker
02-18-2004, 02:38 PM
why don't you let the cat out of the bag, and tell us who it is. Might make for an interesting thread. F#ckin internet gangsters! Acting tough behind a keyboard, and picking on a girl. :nono: :fruit:

edit: don't worry about it. I bet if you take a trip to "Lolly cup" and get yourself a nice big cup of Milk Tea with bobas, you'll forget it in a minute. Hachi_Roku_Swing said that if you meet him there on the March 7th meet, he'll buy you one to make you feel better. :wiggle: :p

TRUENOCOUPE
02-18-2004, 02:44 PM
It doesn't take a whole load of thinking of why females have softer feeling than the males. retarded.

Even if how pretty the girl is, I can make them cry my making a simple remark.

If I was to put down of how you look, your mom is a whore, etc etc... Its not true right? But don't sit there and be a hypocryte that you wouldn't be mad at all.

Fucking homo.
if you let it bother you that much then i'd tend to think what was said is true to some degree. i don't know you or anything about you but from your story it seem you're easily hurt by stupid comments and remarks. so what if someone says those things? are they true? if not then why fret, there's no reason to get so upset about it.;)

KiDyNomiTe
02-18-2004, 02:52 PM
Hmm, is your bf on the board I forget these things, is he one of the mods, or is this a different girl. If so he was prolly banned and just fealt like being dick to you.

Just ignore it, I never take anything on the boards or from people on boards seriously unless its like a technical thing, but someone you probably have never met isn't gonna know jacksh*t about you except what you post.

brokenben
02-18-2004, 02:56 PM
im jealous. i wish i had yer car. :( sorry bout them haters tho.. much respect.

itsybitsy240sxEy
02-18-2004, 03:18 PM
Thanks Truenocoupe, you said exactly what needed to be said.

As for what happened Georgia, ..ugh! What a little f*cktard.

WilloW
02-18-2004, 03:19 PM
Damn E-Thug!

D1drifter
02-18-2004, 05:54 PM
Thats pretty F'ed up. Whoever it was, just ignore the fool. P.S thanks for the 2 bucks you lent me at the meet. Remind me next time you see me to hit you back up with the money:)

JKim0901
02-18-2004, 06:01 PM
s13 chica bought my old interior out of my wrecked car, she knew how to take off some things that i didnt know how to!~! cool girl, knows her stuff. whoevers talking shit prob just envys you cuz he aint got no balls to paint his car pink!~!

nightwalker
02-18-2004, 06:06 PM
he's also probably jealous because you have nicer legs.

HiPSI
02-18-2004, 06:15 PM
It doesn't take a whole load of thinking of why females have softer feeling than the males. retarded.

Even if how pretty the girl is, I can make them cry my making a simple remark.

If I was to put down of how you look, your mom is a whore, etc etc... Its not true right? But don't sit there and be a hypocryte that you wouldn't be mad at all.

Fucking homo.


honestly you could tell me to my face that you think my momma's ugly and you banged my sister, and i'd laugh with you about it. i could care less what some fucktard says to me on the internet let alone in person. like the homo comment, should i go cry in a corner because you called me that? :wtf: this is my point (which i'm guessing you missed), people say shit just because and you shouldn't let it bother you. if someone talks trash, and you know what they say isn't true, then what's the issue? that someone has an ill opinion of you? tell them to piss off and move on, that's all it takes.

itsybitsy240sxEy
02-18-2004, 06:20 PM
HiPSI, well all right, it's great that you can handle stuff like that, but it is possible for you to understand that some people aren't right? People are different. That's all there is to it.

HiPSI
02-18-2004, 06:23 PM
maybe i just thrive on knowing that the person talking shit didn't get a rise out of me (their main reason usually for doing so)? i dunno, i was trying to help but that got turned around in a hurry.;)

Var
02-18-2004, 06:23 PM
maybe i'm old fashioned but you never disrespect a lady.

or act as if it's no big deal

aznpoopy
02-18-2004, 08:54 PM
honestly you could tell me to my face that you think my momma's ugly and you banged my sister, and i'd laugh with you about it. i could care less what some fucktard says to me on the internet let alone in person. like the homo comment, should i go cry in a corner because you called me that? :wtf: this is my point (which i'm guessing you missed), people say shit just because and you shouldn't let it bother you. if someone talks trash, and you know what they say isn't true, then what's the issue? that someone has an ill opinion of you? tell them to piss off and move on, that's all it takes.

lol ah so young, so much to learn about women. :) when women say something is wrong they do NOT want you to do typical guy reponses which are:

a)tell them how to fix the problem
b)try to fix the problem
c)tell them how to feel!!!

women just want people to listen and understand. so i kno u DEFINATELY had good intentions, and ur advice would probably go over much better if it were a guy in question here, but you might've made her feel bad with ur earlier comment. that's all really...

i hope u feel better s13chica! :)

s13chica
02-18-2004, 09:01 PM
THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND KIND WORDS! It made me feel so much better :) People are stupid, and they will continue to be stupid... I just wanted to vent... so thanks for listening

matlock
02-18-2004, 09:16 PM
Hey I think it is totally cool you are into cars and actually know your shit, I really respect that. I think its cool too how some of the guys can even be witnesses to your skill thats cool. My girlfriend knows a lot about cars and stuff and its really cool because when I met her she was just commenting on a lot of cars and I was really impressed, because previous girlfriends haven't been so stoked on cars and figure all they are for is to get you from one place to another. I really respect a girl that can put herself in a mainly male dominated sport/lifestyle and have fun with it and stuff thats really cool....that guy's just a jerkface, I would've called him a poo poo head haha jk. I will grow up now.

RPS13_SR20DET
02-19-2004, 12:13 AM
BOo to tat guy.... if i were u i would be hittin on the warning button till he gets 100% ;)

RBS14
02-19-2004, 06:29 PM
Yo G. People are stupid.... simple as that! This is kinda fucked cause there are only a few people (in the 240 community) who know the info that the IM regarded and I'm one of them. And you know I wouldn't talk shit like that to anyone, so you can eliminate one person off ur list of blabbermouths........ Find the person and CASTRATE him......... haha

Hmmmm....... I think we both know the most likely shit talking candidate.

What I find really funny is after someone was running their mouth, the person listening to it was jealous enough to take the time of day to write that shit to you...... classic.

mbmbmb23
02-19-2004, 08:18 PM
I recently recieved an interesting, and very hurtful, instant message from a person in the 240 community. It basically stated that he had heard from other 240 owners that I was a money grubbing bitch, and that everything that I have ever done to my car was purchased by a boyfriend! This chat continued to go on about how I only dated people so they could buy me stuff, and how I never have done anything on my own for my car...

The reason I bring up this conversation is because I want people to talk to my face if they have shit to say, please confront me about it, don't talk behind my back. I'm sorry if you have a small penis, and you feel threatened becasue there is a girl with a nicer car than you, but shut the F*CK up!

Whoever said this shit, and you know who you are, really hurt my feelings...I was actually in tears when I heard this. You guys wonder why there are no girls in the car community...THIS IS WHY! It takes a lot to be in a community largely dominated by males, and then when we start to hear these kind of comments, it makes us want to leave.

I know not everyone is like this, and the people who give me support are throught of in very high regards, but I am really hurt right now, so I just needed to let everyone know how I feel.


No worries....what goes around comes around. Gotta give props to any female willing to venture onto a car board. It's funny how people talk so much sh*t on the net because they can hide behind their computer screens when in reality they would get stomped IRL for pissing people off. :nono:

Baka Sama
02-19-2004, 08:37 PM
It basically stated that he had heard from other 240 owners that I was a money grubbing bitch, and that everything that I have ever done to my car was purchased by a boyfriend! This chat continued to go on about how I only dated people so they could buy me stuff, and how I never have done anything on my own for my car...
Is it true :confused: If so... I have a extra lsd laying around wit yo name on it :naughty:

The reason I bring up this conversation is because I want people to talk to my face if they have shit to say, please confront me about it, don't talk behind my back. I'm sorry if you have a small penis, and you feel threatened becasue there is a girl with a nicer car than you, but shut the F*CK up!
Why do girls always have to go and throw a low punch with the small penis thing? Do girls really think that it hurts a guy to say that? Maybe it just doesnt bother me cause I can hang wit the best of them. lol :boink:

Whoever said this shit, and you know who you are, really hurt my feelings...I was actually in tears when I heard this. You guys wonder why there are no girls in the car community...THIS IS WHY! It takes a lot to be in a community largely dominated by males, and then when we start to hear these kind of comments, it makes us want to leave.
Not to sound mean but the reason there are no girls in the car community is because most are to girly to get down and dirty and most girls dont have the need for speed or the rush most guys get out of it.

Anywayz Cheer up! I hope venting makes you feel better.. What doesnt kill you will make you stronger...or very ill.

S13SilviaGirl
02-19-2004, 09:59 PM
Chikkkaaa.....screw that guy! not literally, but on the track girl. He is just jealous that he #1, can get his ass out there and #2, dosn't have a car that would last 1/2 a day on the track. Don't let stupid people get to you. They sooo arent worth it.

Bill Roberts
02-20-2004, 12:11 AM
That really fucking sucks. Yea...people can be real cowards on the web hiding behind the glass screen. I have had my share of this kinda bullshit go down in various forms. Just rise above it and stand tall. It is also a great idea that you voiced yourself publically about it...because, what is good for the goose...well someone needs their ass roasted for being a total asshole. Even if it were true, fuck them either way. Some people need a good ass whooping to take them back to some form of reality.

Sorry so much adult langualge, this shit frost my ass..and I don't mind saying so as well.

fliprayzin240sx
02-21-2004, 10:13 AM
Haha...its all good Georgia....we still love you in the bay. Oh yah punk you didnt even say hi to me at davids meet...no wait you didnt see me cuz my i was bumming in another car.

PS: its prolly art since hes jealous your cars running and his aint. *jk*

Riielle
02-21-2004, 05:20 PM
I recently recieved an interesting, and very hurtful, instant message from a person in the 240 community. It basically stated that he had heard from other 240 owners that I was a money grubbing bitch, and that everything that I have ever done to my car was purchased by a boyfriend! This chat continued to go on about how I only dated people so they could buy me stuff, and how I never have done anything on my own for my car...

The reason I bring up this conversation is because I want people to talk to my face if they have shit to say, please confront me about it, don't talk behind my back. I'm sorry if you have a small penis, and you feel threatened becasue there is a girl with a nicer car than you, but shut the F*CK up!

Whoever said this shit, and you know who you are, really hurt my feelings...I was actually in tears when I heard this. You guys wonder why there are no girls in the car community...THIS IS WHY! It takes a lot to be in a community largely dominated by males, and then when we start to hear these kind of comments, it makes us want to leave.

I know not everyone is like this, and the people who give me support are throught of in very high regards, but I am really hurt right now, so I just needed to let everyone know how I feel.


what at asshole...just thought you should know that there is another girl in the car community. and i knwo how you feel. my "friends" tell my bf shit and blah blah blah. just dont worry about it. i think thats what they want.

cali240sxdrifter
02-21-2004, 05:24 PM
sorry to hear that s13chica there are to many boys out there that still think girls have cudies. why did ya cry? is it true or what? if it isn't don't worry about it. chin up chica!

s13chica
02-21-2004, 06:35 PM
sorry to hear that s13chica there are to many boys out there that still think girls have cudies. why did ya cry? is it true or what? if it isn't don't worry about it. chin up chica!

I cried because I was called a money grubbing whore... I think that would be enough to make any girl cry. When people attack something that you have poured your heart and soul into, and spent every dime on, it hurts when they say bad things about it.

cali240sxdrifter
02-21-2004, 07:01 PM
ahh, yeah i guess that will do it =( sorry again to hear what this person said.

old_s13
02-21-2004, 10:57 PM
random person sends hateful message to female 240sx-enthusiast and she gets her feelings hurt, why may I ask?

i dont agree with the hateful message, thats not cool.. but at the same time, you really cant be that smart OR strong of a person if everything some fucking IDIOT tells you effects you! seriously now.. how much of what he said is true?


nzo> Haters wanna hate, lovers wanna love, I dont even want none of the above I want to.... :)

s13chica
02-22-2004, 12:32 AM
i dont agree with the hateful message, thats not cool.. but at the same time, you really cant be that smart OR strong of a person if everything some fucking IDIOT tells you effects you! seriously now.. how much of what he said is true?


I can't believe that you would say that...it's kinda rude of you. The reason I was so hurt was because the person who told me that they had heard this, didn't belive me that it wasn't true. It makes me sad when people who I think are my friends can't even believe what I tell them. I also don't see why you don't understand that being called a whore would hurt my feelings, I think it makes sense, even if it is some random person, those words hurt.

As to how much of what they said was true, none of it was. Everything that has ever been purchased for my car was paid for by ME! Well, except my tail lights which were a gift for my 21st birthday. I am very proud of how much time and effort I have put into my car, I think you would have your feelings hurt as well.

Plus, I'm a girl, I take things to heart a little more than most guys do. (and I was already having a bad day!)

240Stilo
02-22-2004, 01:14 AM
The reason I was so hurt was because the person who told me that they had heard this, didn't belive me that it wasn't true. It makes me sad when people who I think are my friends can't even believe what I tell them.


Either you don't keep good friends or they know something we don't. But I second old_S13's post because what you should have done when the guy disrespected you is pull out the handy dandy smiley :gives:. Ultimately it probably won't be the last time you will run into a playa hata...so play on playa :hug:.

Jeff240sx
02-22-2004, 01:34 AM
Either you don't keep good friends or they know something we don't. But I second old_S13's post because what you should have done when the guy disrespected you is pull out the handy dandy smiley :gives:. Ultimately it probably won't be the last time you will run into a playa hata...so play on playa :hug:.

I'm in a locking posts for no reason mood. Now, I'll be democratic.
#1 for a Lock!
-Jeff

Riielle
02-22-2004, 09:32 AM
what i was saying...chicka, dont worry what others say as long as you know its not true, dont let idiots that you dont know get you down. its pointless. they say that shit to hurt you and obviously it worked. im just trying to help by saying fuck them and ignore childish remarks from the "unknown" that say shit about you.

old_s13
02-22-2004, 11:14 AM
jeff> I'm in a locking posts for no reason mood.

damn man, dont you have anything better to do than moderate OFF TOPIC?


s13chica> I can't believe that you would say that...it's kinda rude of you. The reason I was so hurt was because the person who told me that they had heard this, didn't belive me that it wasn't true. It makes me sad when people who I think are my friends can't even believe what I tell them. I also don't see why you don't understand that being called a whore would hurt my feelings, I think it makes sense, even if it is some random person, those words hurt. As to how much of what they said was true, none of it was. Everything that has ever been purchased for my car was paid for by ME! Well, except my tail lights which were a gift for my 21st birthday. I am very proud of how much time and effort I have put into my car, I think you would have your feelings hurt as well. Plus, I'm a girl, I take things to heart a little more than most guys do. (and I was already having a bad day!)

Listen, I dont wanna step on toes.. Im just gonna speak my mind as *I* see things. Some girls are more fragile, if thats your personality then cool.. I respect that. Just remember, you're on a car forum full of guys. For one, we're not the most sensative people on this planet -- we play pretty rough.. so rough that even GUYS are getting their feelings hurt here because they take so many comments seriously. People comment on someone's car and they get all butt-hurt as if its their girlfriend or family member. Its a fucking car people, wake up. Second, I dont see why you can seriously give a fuck what anyone you DONT know says about you. If some random idiot like myself walked up to you and called you a whore, would you seriously get offended? Dont say that this is just because you're a girl because most of my female friends are pretty rough around the edges and would laugh if they heard this.

So, try to toughen up a bit and rather than getting offended.. come up with a better diss and talk some mad shit. Or, you can always just hit delete.

"Gotta play ruff to get the muff"
- Mike

gosuS14
02-22-2004, 12:00 PM
Girls that are into cars and know stuff about them are soo cool! :bowdown: There are probably plenty of guys that think girls that know their car and like working on their car are cool, plus most of them are pretty cute. I wish i knew girls that liked cars :-/ . And even though i dont know you, I'm pretty sure that you did put a lot of time, money, and effort into your car, and that you are not a money grubbing whore. There are not many guys out there that would say such things and if they did, they're probably just jealous. ;)

-Eric- :goyou:

old_s13
02-22-2004, 01:06 PM
There are probably plenty of guys that think girls that know their car and like working on their car are cool, plus most of them are pretty cute. I wish i knew girls that liked cars . And even though i dont know you, I'm pretty sure that you did put a lot of time, money, and effort into your car, and that you are not a money grubbing whore. There are not many guys out there that would say such things and if they did, they're probably just jealous.

Ahh yes, I love posts like this. The guys who get impressed when girls work on cars. Dont get me wrong, girls that are into cars are great.. I love them, and I wish there were more of them. But I also love how there are guys who think:
girl + knowledgeable about cars = dreamgirl

I mean seriously now, when you start to meet more car girls you'll kinda notice that they arent as girly as they sound. I am not passing judgement on the author of this thread because I have not met her, and that would be completely wrong.. I am just saying, in general girls who work on cars who have nice greasy hands with calluses is not the most attractive thing in the world. There is a reason why most girls are not into working on cars, and thats mostly because they appreciate their beauty and know that working on a car and staying beautiful is a tough thing to balance.

Regardless if its a guy OR girl, I can definately say that most people on this forum are pretty lax about the mods they do and the knowledge they have. Atleast on freshalloy, people are a bit more hardcore on the modifications they take on. If you think I am being harsh think again, the topic of auto->manual conversion has been covered over a million times and so has Z32 brakes, BUT.. people keep asking.

Not hating at all, I like this forum.. I'm just saying if you want some knowledge, this forum is just entry level.

gosuS14
02-22-2004, 04:01 PM
I dunno about dreamgirl, but I think it's cool, and having greasy hands, oh well, hand's can be washed...

fliprayzin240sx
02-22-2004, 08:40 PM
Hey Georgia...I got a better idea...YOU CAN GIVE ME YOUR CAR and all thes ish talking will go away....so yah wut do u say seksay?!?! I still gotta lick your car cuz it looks so yummie *thinking coton candies rite now*

Baka Sama
02-22-2004, 09:50 PM
Old_s13 I thought I was being mean for thinking the same way but Im glad someone else sees it the way I do. :cry: <-dont take that the wrong way :)

s13chica
02-23-2004, 09:41 AM
Ray..I'm not giving you my car...sorry, but I love it just wayyyy to much. I'm sorry that you guys think I took it the wrong way, and was extra hurt, but if you look at some of my posts you will see that I just needed a place to vent. I was totally over the whole thing a few hours later. It was just the initial shock that pissed me off...

old_s13
02-23-2004, 10:08 AM
I just needed a place to vent

Thats why we're here s13 chiiiica, we're here solely for your venting. =)

glad you're over it..
-mike

chineseb0i
03-15-2004, 10:45 PM
damn..i don't know wut to say i think it's really stupid for someone to IM u on aim and be a total asshole to u. Even though i don't know you that well i think you're a great person and you shouldn't let words like that bother you..i remember when I met you..we had a meet at your house and damn did a lot of people show up. Although i didn't really get to know you..i think taht you hosting a meet, setting it up, and buying a lot of stuff to feed us hungry guys was really generous but also kind of you. Honestly i don't think you should let some asshole's words to bother you..you are better than that and most of us know that. N e ways, i know this thread is old but i came across is somehow/someway so yea..jus my thoughts

JtWo
03-16-2004, 12:28 AM
I wish my girl was into cars as much you Georgia. Actually...I just wish I could have another girl :sadwavey:

weitau
03-16-2004, 03:48 PM
sorry for reviving an old thread, but I know why Chikka can be hurt...

So guys, let me translate...

Some guy finds your phone number and calls you on your cell.
You don't know who he is, but he obviously knows you and your car.
He calls you a cock-s_cking muther f_cker, and threatens to come to your house, rape your g/f or wife, and steal your ride.

Sure you hang up, but you don't know if he is really coming to your house today, tomorrow, or never.

So dudes, now you know.

Chikka, sorry to hear about what happened. Remember that there are other guys on this forum and we'll support you.

s14falcon
03-16-2004, 04:11 PM
She already said shes over it, this thread needs to end.

Zoom8112
03-16-2004, 06:43 PM
I dunno about dreamgirl, but I think it's cool, and having greasy hands, oh well, hand's can be washed...


uhhh ... calluses + handjob = not fun

Salty_X
03-16-2004, 07:03 PM
uhhh ... calluses + handjob = not fun
:bigok: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :naughtyd:

Andrew Bohan
03-18-2004, 02:50 PM
i don't care even if it is true (which i doubt). your car is teh $ex

FastBack 240
03-18-2004, 05:15 PM
who gives a shit about that asshole:rl:, he can only wish he has what you do... jelous little prick is all he is...just brush the dirt off your shoulders and keep on rocking in the free world! :coold:

stealthj
03-20-2004, 05:35 AM
held deep, like the words of my breath

i never sleep

cuz sleep is the cuzin of death
:)

Mr. Badlose
03-24-2004, 08:24 PM
i don't care even if it is true (which i doubt). your car is teh $ex

W3rd. S13chica is mega-cool. Next time we meet my engine won't be on fire! Buahahaha.

s13chica
03-25-2004, 08:32 AM
W3rd. S13chica is mega-cool. Next time we meet my engine won't be on fire! Buahahaha.

I hope your car is NEVER on fire again! that was a horrible thing to have happen...

old_s13
03-25-2004, 09:19 AM
i am going to MURDER everyone involved in constantly bringing this absolutely stupid thread back from the past...

- Mike

nokeone
03-25-2004, 12:52 PM
ok it's time for this all to end...

IT WAS ME...

just had to come clean...maybe this can all be put to rest now...