EMUSA Coilovers Review (Ebay Stuff)

[motteramm]

Been meaning to do this writeup for the past year due to all the talk about ebay trash and whatnot so here it goes.

Please don't flame. Trying to do this write up to have REAL info on ebay stuff
To each their own..

June 18, 2011 I purchased a set of EMUSA non adjustable Coilovers for my S13 coupe. (Birthday Present to myself :coold: ) I payed $450.00 flat shipped to my door for these suckers. My plan was to use them as through aways and to run them till they blew and buy a set of Stance. I received them in the mail about 5 days later and went for the install. They were a breeze to install, no problems whatsoever. Before install i preloaded the springs and after install i did height adjustment. It is very possible to slam your car with these. Maxed out you will still have about a 1'' drop. I have mine set to about 2. 3/4'' drop or so. Ok. now for the info people care about. I have been riding on these for a year now over all sorts of roads good and bad. The ride quality is OK.. nowhere near Stance or TIEN but on par with Megan racing streets. I actually have several people that have driven my car think they were Megans. As like all coils they are stiff but not bouncy like springs which suprised me being the spring rate is 8kg front 6kg back. I have had absolutly no problems with these coils and dont expect to in the future. As of now i have 37,000 miles on them and they still work great for daily and LIGHT track use. I would completely understand wanting to go name brand on something like coils but if your on a budget i would not hesitate to tell a friend to pick up a set.

Thats my info do with it what you will. Im not saying buy everything on ebay, just giving my experience with what I got.

[future]

Now 450. Thats better for ebay lol

Cheaper then k sports

But still gay, wait for the flaming

[motteramm]

Now 450. Thats better for ebay lol

Cheaper then k sports

But still gay, wait for the flaming

I expect loads of flaming for this but i have yet to find a REAL rightup on ebay coils so i wanted to get some actuall first hand info out there.

[nu_born]

That's a bold move though...it doesn't seem like a lot of people are willing to take that chance with small time manufacturers like this anymore, but I imagine someone had to at some point for companies like Tein and Cusco to get to where they are. Not saying that Emusa will accomplish that level of prestige nor am I saying they won't, but I personally remember when friends of mine would mention Ksport and Megan Racing coilovers and others (myself included) would go "K who? Megan what?".

Shit you used to be able to get a set of KSports brand new for $600, now you won't find them for less than $8-900 and they make all sorts of coilover setups that are even more expensive than that now. And all it took was a few people to try'em out, write reviews like this, and get the word out that they really were a pretty damn good product for the money.

[4x4le]

They are made in the same place as megan, apexi, greddy, and some others coilovers. Just less features. They are interchangable with megan dampners and springs.

We have sold tons of these locally. Everyone seemes to love them just as a cheap decent way to lower a car if its not going to be tracked. We have an account with emusa and we dont sell stuff on ebay. Just because emusa has an ebay store dont mean ebay is all they do. Andy has been to emusa in indiana. He said they had a nice big shop/wearhouse and dyno on site. People dont give them enough credit because yhey sell tawanise coilovers that they didnt design, just like apexi and everyone else.

[pacotaco345]

I had these exact same coils on my car.. I think your definition of "slammed" and zilvia's definition are different. I had like a half inch of preload, one collar removed from each coil in the front, and my rears drooped like an inch and a half to get the ride height where I wanted it. Also the right rear blew at my first track day. And the coil's OD is so large that they rubbed my tires. Now I have PBM and none of the issues mentioned before..

[Mishkin_707]

That's why they blew, you removed all that shit so you can look cool for zilvia and the "I slam my cars" teeny boppers, not everyone wants to slam their cars so low that you high center on a damn ant....dumb ass.

[4x4le]

Megan offers shocks that will fit them, megans, apexi ect that have a different range of stroke that is geared towards lower cars.

[motteramm]

That's why they blew, you removed all that shit so you can look cool for zilvia and the "I slam my cars" teeny boppers, not everyone wants to slam their cars so low that you high center on a damn ant....dumb ass.

exactly... :keke:

[itwillboost]

Not bad for 450. I have an emusa wastegate and it works perfectly for me.

[SlowMotion]

I am aware that this isn't a fresh thread but i would like to say thank you for an honest review of cheap parts. lol A few years ago, I only bought the most expensive parts I could find assuming they were the best but now, thanks to a lower paying job, I have grown to realise that price doesn't mean crap! I now find humor in outrunning, out drifting, or just outdriving people with budget parts. That's similar to the way I got into "tuners", doing more with less. I have been debating on a set of those $450 coilovers and now that I hear they are not junk, that's what I want. If I have to buy another set it 2 years, big deal! 2 sets in 4 years is still cheaper than most coilovers! Sorry to ramble but thought I would put my $0.02 in.

[KiLLeR2001]

Coilovers like these are only good for rolling around. You know, like when you need to get your car painted so you roll it onto a trailer to take it to the paint shop. But then again so are blown factory struts.

[4x4le]

These really are better than to do that. Even with my good words for them after being in a few cars with them i would not want them for competing as the shocks are valved different and my be a little different inside, however they are a much better ride than any megan streets that i have ridden on. These are good to get the car lower with a decent ride. The shocks megan sells with different lengths and valving can be used with them too as well as their springs or anything if you want to customize them or not have to throw them away just because one blows.

[Banker]

got these on my s14, they were worth the risk. I would recommend these for daily driving or some light track.

[Atill93]

Yeah I ordered a set of these about a month or so ago for my s13 coupe. I wouldn't say they allow you to slam your car because honestly I want to go lower and I really can't. They ride nice though, and they are very simple to install. If money is tight, EMUSA coilovers work just fine.

[Croustibat]

Coilovers like these are only good for rolling around. You know, like when you need to get your car painted so you roll it onto a trailer to take it to the paint shop. But then again so are blown factory struts.

That exactly.

OP> this is as much a review as a butt dyno session is representative of a car horsepower. Now dont get me wrong, this is not against you specifically, but if someone pretends to be doing a review, he/she has to make some tests, with repeatable test protocols and results.

In that aspect, your text is not a review, at best it is a description.

If you want to make a review of a spring and damper system, you need to make a spring test and a damper test. Not a "how low can they go" test. A review is about function.

Now, here is mine :

The springs are sh*t and so are the dampers. Springs are nowhere near linear ( trust me, you want linear springs to have a predictable, easy to use car), damping to rebound ratio is terrible, adjustments make too much cross bias, and any damping dyno session will show how miserable the valving is.

They suck badly, and this is exactly what to expect from a 450$ coilover set.

Sure, for driving around in a lowered car they can be enough, as these cars already have ruined handling. cant really ruin them more when roll center is 5 meters underground, and suspension is set rock hard to prevent any suspension movement that could throw the car out of the road.

But the primary function of suspension is to make the car handle, and not make the car go lower.

It comes down to this:
if you are in for form over function, they have a good money/look ratio.

If you favor function, or track you car, or drive it hard ... dont bother. The same goes for megan entry level coilovers (or teins, or any entry level coilover for that matters, tein street coilovers are terrible and only serve form)

[Kingbaby]

Function guy

What is a good set of coils?

[Croustibat]

What is a good set of coils?

A good set of suspension allows your car to handle well when they fit your application,which is something most sub 2000$ coils dont do. The form of your message highly suggests you are trolling, but i will answer anyway.


Of course, when your application is "crawling around trying not to scratch the underneath too much", any coil will do.

But if your application requires the car to actually handle, then i'd say:

-coils not sold without damping / rebound dynoed, and the dyno sheet available for the customer.

-Constant spring rates (these are surprisingly not expensive though, you can get 4 custom made to your liking/ application for around 400$)

-separate adjustability for slow / fast | damping / rebound

They are not likely to be under the 2000$ price tag though.

If you want "cheap" quality suspension, better get standard struts with koni/kw dampers and custom made springs. I believe these are going to be in the 1500$ price tag. But that is already 3 times the cost of cheap coilovers, and that does not give ride height adjustability, so no wonder these sells.

[claytoncallihan]

i bought ISIS coilovers which were only 650 bucks and they arent a well used brand and theyre seriously awesome so far. of course the higher up you go the better, but some of these not so highly used brands can surprise people. the reviews on mine are amazing everywhere.

[Mishkin_707]

A good set of suspension allows your car to handle well when they fit your application,which is something most sub 2000$ coils dont do. The form of your message highly suggests you are trolling, but i will answer anyway.


Of course, when your application is "crawling around trying not to scratch the underneath too much", any coil will do.

But if your application requires the car to actually handle, then i'd say:

-coils not sold without damping / rebound dynoed, and the dyno sheet available for the customer.

-Constant spring rates (these are surprisingly not expensive though, you can get 4 custom made to your liking/ application for around 400$)

-separate adjustability for slow / fast | damping / rebound

They are not likely to be under the 2000$ price tag though.

If you want "cheap" quality suspension, better get standard struts with koni/kw dampers and custom made springs. I believe these are going to be in the 1500$ price tag. But that is already 3 times the cost of cheap coilovers, and that does not give ride height adjustability, so no wonder these sells.

So my $2,000 coilovers are junk?
I need to get $5,000 coilovers?

For what? 90% of this website daily drive their cars so I think it is unnecessary to buy any coilovers for more than $2,000, you're talking about full racing suspension that no one on here are going to use, these are street cars with the occasional track runs, not full competition F1 racing cars or nascar.

There is a major difference with coilovers you're talking about and the ones we are talking about, it's like comparing our S13 and S14 to an alcohol powered drag car, yeah the drag car is faster but you're not spending $100,000 on one to drive it on the street because it's better.

[zooopreme]

I agree with Croustibat to an extent, I get real uptight when people start making review threads without comparisons or bring forth experiences using another brand. That's like trying out a Wii only and saying it's the best without trying other game consoles.

But where we differ is this. Along with the basis of what a review is/does for a community which is to provide a performance outlook on a certain product, there are more things that people look for when purchasing coils. People want to know how low a certain brand goes because of the current trend. If having your car stupid low wasn't a thing, we'd all stick with a single spring height adjustment for each side and worry about how they feel on the street. And for most people on the hunt for coilovers, ride quality and track performance goes out door.

I agree there should be tests for these dampers/springs. And for the money, there ARE coilovers that are functional for sub-$2000 that do perform tests. PBM and Fortune Auto are examples.

So are most sub 2,000 coilovers junk? Yes. Are there some that aren't? You betcha. Are those non-sucky sub-$2000 coilovers better than the higher end brands? No.

[cgtdream]

That exactly.

OP> this is as much a review as a butt dyno session is representative of a car horsepower. Now dont get me wrong, this is not against you specifically, but if someone pretends to be doing a review, he/she has to make some tests, with repeatable test protocols and results.

In that aspect, your text is not a review, at best it is a description.

If you want to make a review of a spring and damper system, you need to make a spring test and a damper test. Not a "how low can they go" test. A review is about function.

Now, here is mine :

The springs are sh*t and so are the dampers. Springs are nowhere near linear ( trust me, you want linear springs to have a predictable, easy to use car), damping to rebound ratio is terrible, adjustments make too much cross bias, and any damping dyno session will show how miserable the valving is.

They suck badly, and this is exactly what to expect from a 450$ coilover set.

Sure, for driving around in a lowered car they can be enough, as these cars already have ruined handling. cant really ruin them more when roll center is 5 meters underground, and suspension is set rock hard to prevent any suspension movement that could throw the car out of the road.

But the primary function of suspension is to make the car handle, and not make the car go lower.

It comes down to this:
if you are in for form over function, they have a good money/look ratio.

If you favor function, or track you car, or drive it hard ... dont bother. The same goes for megan entry level coilovers (or teins, or any entry level coilover for that matters, tein street coilovers are terrible and only serve form)


I am severly confused on your approach towards the OP and his review of, from what it sounds like, a decent set of coilovers.

Firstly ill help you out with the first thing you confused me with. Your definition of the word review...


re·view/riˈvyo͞o/
Noun:
A formal assessment or examination of something.
Verb:
Examine or assess (something) with the possibility or intention of instituting change if necessary.
Synonyms:
noun. inspection - survey - parade - magazine - revision
verb. revise - examine - inspect - reconsider

The OP did all of this and more. Although his words were colorful, the meaning was pretty clear. The coilovers in question are good for the price. Not the best, but for 450 bucks and a years worth of time on the road, they seem to be decent.

Secondly, you were pretty quick to talk shit about these coilovers, yet against your own words, failed to provide any test much less any review or opinion, or even personal experience regarding this set. Against what the OP posted, you gave little reason to even listen to your words. It just felt like a lazy rant about something you had yet to experience or own...

All in all, im not here to bash you or the OP but to at least say. Give these some credit where its due. You have no experience with these so far and the op has a years worth. There is even a rep in this thread with multiple experiences....The op was cautious enough to even say that these weren't his first choice but more of a test so why waste your time ranting like you were.

All in all, thanks OP for your personal review.

[Kingbaby]

If you want "cheap" quality suspension, better get standard struts with koni/kw dampers and custom made springs. I believe these are going to be in the 1500$ price tag. But that is already 3 times the cost of cheap coilovers, and that does not give ride height adjustability, so no wonder these sells.

So...like I've seen on several threads across the internet. You're saying stay stock unless you are looking to buy koni/kw dampers and custom made springs? One more thing for those that aren't looking to slam their car, would the same junk coils perform any better now that ride quality isn't compremised? Thanks for the reply.

So are most sub 2,000 coilovers junk? Yes. Are there some that aren't? You betcha. Are those non-sucky sub-$2000 coilovers better than the higher end brands? No.

Confucius? List brands please, your statement is a bucket of water.

[zooopreme]

Confucius? List brands please, your statement is a bucket of water.

I already have.

The only two worth the money that are sub-$2,000: PBM and Fortunes. And if you can dish out money for springs, go with Swifts for these two. Best street and track application for under 2,000 dollars.

I have driven on both for daily applications. The FA's I have driven on the track and the valving is superior to other brands that I have tried like Stance GR+'s, Megan Tracks, Tein Basics/FLEXES, etc.

[Kingbaby]

Roger roger

I have Stance GR+PRO w/SSD ($1495 at the time) and I find them to be great...

So should I look into buying PBM coils currently $1350?

? plays into what I asked Croustibat. If you don't slam junk coils, will they perform? thanks for the reply.

[S13Vinny]

it all comes down to why you have the car... i dont need to rb swap my car i drive to work and school and the same goes for my springs im not gonna spend $4000 to go drifting maybe once or twice a month... its all about how into it you are

[Croustibat]

I already explained and i wont go deeper as many of you fail to understand what a suspension is supposed to do, or just dont want to hear about it.

If you just want to get as low as possible, YES THEY ARE GOOD.

If on the other hand you want your car to handle, then they are utter crap.

Again, I already wrote that.


Now, this "review" only gives height adjustment info, and nothing else besides feeling, which is worth nothing if it is not backed up with some strong facts.

It is as much as a review as a teenager reviews snacks by eating them and saying "hey ! They are cheap and i am not hungry, so they are great". Want to review food ? Get its fat and sugar %age for example.


i bought ISIS coilovers

Actually no, you bought taiwanese blank brand stuff. Your stuff is the same as many other people, like bc-racing, emusa, megan racing, godspeed and all of these crappy ebay sellers.

Create a car business, you can make sure these builders will email you the possibility to get your "own brand coilovers/suspension arms/turbos/whatever" in the next days.

Being satisfied with them ? Good for you ! It does not mean they are good, just that your expectations are low.

Product quality is something absolute. Product satisfaction is relative. Unfortunately, a review is supposed to be about product quality, and not satisfaction.


Kingbaby > i know what you are doing and i wont bother answering.

You are currently trying to troll following "the little trolling handbook" to the letter, when i have actually written it. I know the tricks, it ends here.

How about having that argument on NRR forums ? I am quite sure this could be fun. Unlike most zilvians, people there care about the handling of their cars (see ? i can do it too :mepoke: )

[codyace]

How about having that argument on NRR forums ? I am quite sure this could be fun. Unlike most zilvians, people there care about the handling of their cars (see ? i can do it too :mepoke: )

The first rule of fight club...is not to talk about fight club.

Let us sit over there in peace :D It's nice not having to worry about trolls or moron's over there.

[Kingbaby]

Kingbaby > i know what you are doing and i wont bother answering.

You are currently trying to troll following "the little trolling handbook" to the letter, when i have actually written it. I know the tricks, it ends here.

How about having that argument on NRR forums ? I am quite sure this could be fun. Unlike most zilvians, people there care about the handling of their cars (see ? i can do it too :mepoke: )

Hey! I'm sadden that you think of me this way...

see you in a bit...

[h2v7]

OP are the coils blown now?

[iVanRoz]

I'm poor and I'm tired of my car looking like my silverado in ride height so I might pick these up. Wish me luck haha

[Banker]

Croustibat stfu, if you're so dead set on getting expensive coilovers I would assume that you would stay 10ft from these emusa coilovers... So why even post anything? I assume you don't have them.

I installed these on my s14 august of this year. So far they holding up great. No tracking done, just daily driving which is the reason I bought them for. I was going to buy fortune auto 500, but took a chance on these because I'm not going to be using them to the full potential. just normal daily driving.

They do lower the s14 pretty low and I still have a lot of room to lower them. I have no space in my wheel well (tuck my wheels). It's only been like 2 months since I've had these but thats long enough to recommend them.

also I heard these can be rebuilt with megan parts if need be...

[Kingbaby]

It's good info nonetheless....


You'll have folks that think that you can throw any coils on and barrel into corners....call it drifing/touge...

When I approached coils as a mod...I thought I did an alright job with researching. I brought Stance GR+PRO w/SSD. I've since done countless mountain runs on various tire brands. I'd say that my car handles great for the mountains I frequent.

Now the autoX/road course guys will die by there 2k + coils, and say my car is retarded. Not ever car is set up for cone after cone of flat surface. I wish I could have them drive my car. Any car for that matter on coils under 2k. I say it's all on how you set it up(various), and the way you drive it.

Quality is a big part of this, seeing I've seen coil sub 1k blow rather quickly when slammed, and pushed to the limits on the street.

[Ikera]

Installed these things on my car, only drove around for about 3 months, 6000kms
handles a lot better than KYB on lowered springs, the ride is a little more harsh of course feeling every bump.

The rear doesn't go very low, the shock simply does not go any deeper into the mount in the back.
The front mounts, I noticed the bolt holes are bigger than the stock bolts, not elongated bolt hole for camber adjustment, but just in general bigger. not sure if it's a big deal. I just tighten them really hard to make sure the mounts don't get shifted from it's original place off setting alignment.
Top Camber plate bolts are kinda weak, I was tightening a nut and I think I might have stripped the bolt. And that was with a short 10" ratchet.

That's it for now, here are some pics

Max low in the rear
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[xawax]

I was going to do a review of these after I rode on them for a while. Since this is here, I will add to it. Keep in mind, I am noob and not experienced with any real quality coilover system on the S13. I have only Koni Damper/Matched Spring combo to compare to.

Product: EMUSA dampening adjustable coilover kit for S13 $550 Shipped

Time of review: 6 months after first install.

Driver/Purpose: Street use, daily driver, adjustability enough to lower, but not slam. To not invest $$$$ into coilovers that will require rebuilding because of terrible/abusive local road conditions for which most coilovers weren't designed to handle.

Vehicle Info: All bushings either poly or pillowball, stock configuration LCA's and spindles. SR PoWAAA!! Rides on stock size 15"s and 17"s with 225/45's

Service: When I installed them, upon initial dampening adjustment, one adjustment screw just turned and turned and turned. I was unable to get a start point and end point. It was like something was broke inside.

EMUSA had great communication and sent me out a new single front coilover. They don't usually do this, they said, but went ahead and did it for me. (Initially, they wanted me to remove the entire kit from the car and send it back as a whole.) I was able to drive my car around while waiting for the new coilover. When it arrived promply, I swapped it out and then sent the "broken" one back, postage paid by EMUSA. Very pleased.

Performance: The quality is not the greatest in the materials used. The tophats, as mentioned before, are cheap in feel and the screws for the adjustment at the top don't thread in nice and smooth and I feared stripping them during install. With that said, none of them stripped.

My 17 x 8.5 offset 25 wheels in the front rubbed the rubber spring seat/gasket, but never touched. I didn't even notice till a much later inspection and added a 3mm spacer to give me some more clearance.

The springs "feel" on the soft side, 8k F / 6k R is standard issue I believe. Even with the upgraded sway bars I have and poly bushings, I still experience farily extensive body roll. I am pretty low and don't have roll correction! They soak up bumps very well and I feel more secure, less skipping around, than I did on AGX/TIEN combo. Otherwise, the handling seems good for daily and spirited driving purposes. The body is controlled acceptably and since the spring rates are what they are, the rest of the suspension is allowed to work and stroke well under most conditions. They almost feel like spring/shock combo, other than the usual rear end buck on large bumps that seems unavoidable when you have anything other than spring/shock combo. All and all, very pleased with the ride and handling. Also, no compaints during the girlfriend test.

Conclusion: Amazing value and bang for buck coilover. "USA-made" product that is domestically rebuildable or damper replaceable. I am still waiting for them to blow any day. The thing is, when they do, I will give no FUKK, cause they are so cheap and I'll just grab a new damper from EMUSA and freshen it up.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8310/8007165654_97028671a5_b.jpg

[4x4le]

^^^ good honest review, but they are actually not made in the states, just distributed out of Indiana.

[xawax]

Thanks, and understood, that is why I put them it in quotes. :coolugh:

I work in marketing actually, I am quite familiar with the "USA Made" marketing campaign. Hehe They most likely buy the parts from all over the world and do some mild assembly in Indiana and throw a paint job on em. Standard procedure now-a-days.

[4x4le]

Most likely. Andy actually visited EMUSA once when business brought him to Indianapolis and he told me that he was actually quite surprised when he got there. He said the guys were really cool, its not open to the public but there is a fully functional shop and dyno mostly for working on the employees cars and testing their products. He said there were nice cars in there. And that even though they sell Chinese and Taiwanese parts at a low price that you can tell that they do actually care that there needs to be a certain quality to the parts in order to have their name on them.

I aint mad at em, just some Americans trying to help out some Americans with lower cost parts while making a buck. People using where parts are made as a reason not to buy them need to remember their greddy stuff is coming from china too.

[Croustibat]

[...]you can tell that they do actually care that there needs to be a certain quality to the parts in order to have their name on them.


Actually that is a load of bull. I bought a full set of rose jointed arms for my S13 from them. Package was terrible and i mean it...

But then the quality of the stuff ?
1/ the alloy is shit. It is supposed to be metal, but it feels like cheese... and it IS heavy. Machinist has never seen that. Easier to cut than low grade aluminium.
2/Threads : There was paint ON THE THREADS And they had so much play in them i had a machinist redo them.
3/ LCA "studs" coming into spindles. They dont have the correct taper !!!!
4/ Welds. Even when i started welding, i made better welds ...had to redo them too.
5/ tolerances. I had to redo every damn misalignment spacer, because none of them was ROUND. And none of them had any tightness in them. And they were made of "cheese metal" too .


So please dont even talk about the quality standards of EMUSA... I think it would have cost me less to have a fabricator make these arms ...

[4x4le]

Actually that is a load of bull. I bought a full set of rose jointed arms for my S13 from them. Package was terrible and i mean it...

But then the quality of the stuff ?
1/ the alloy is shit. It is supposed to be metal, but it feels like cheese... and it IS heavy. Machinist has never seen that. Easier to cut than low grade aluminium.
2/Threads : There was paint ON THE THREADS And they had so much play in them i had a machinist redo them.
3/ LCA "studs" coming into spindles. They dont have the correct taper !!!!
4/ Welds. Even when i started welding, i made better welds ...had to redo them too.
5/ tolerances. I had to redo every damn misalignment spacer, because none of them was ROUND. And none of them had any tightness in them. And they were made of "cheese metal" too .


So please dont even talk about the quality standards of EMUSA... I think it would have cost me less to have a fabricator make these arms ...

You sure do make yourself look dumb. They do sell cheap stuff and its apparent. It is in no way to be compared to top of the line stuff.

You try to discount an dis credit what was found when actually visiting their facility by the fact that you received a part that didnt meet your standards. You assume their quality control is the worst because
1 the package that was shipped overseas to you in France and was probably screwed up by your own postal service.

2 They felt like they were made out of heavy cheese instead of light metal, whatever that means

3 there was PAINT ON THE THREADS. :rolleyes: When you put something in bold IT DONT MAKE IT A BIGGER DEAL.


Your posts just make you sound like a whiner. I dont have any of my own emusa parts, ive seen them and I personally expect more out of my parts. Spend the money or quit bitching all the time. Their stuff is ok for what it is. I would purchase it before I purchased complete random ebay stuff with no name on it.

[NoPistons!]

After sifting through the rubbish and pussy bleeding this turned out to be a pretty helpful review and didn't discount me from considering either emotor coilover model on my own car.... Fortune auto also offers rebuild services for coilovers...even if they are not their own brand. $450-550 for an entry level starter kit is balls cheap given they have alot of potential to grow with your driving skills.

Actually that is a load of bull. I bought a full set of rose jointed arms for my S13 from them. Package was terrible and i mean it...

But then the quality of the stuff ?
1/ the alloy is shit. It is supposed to be metal, but it feels like cheese... and it IS heavy. Machinist has never seen that. Easier to cut than low grade aluminium.
2/Threads : There was paint ON THE THREADS And they had so much play in them i had a machinist redo them.
3/ LCA "studs" coming into spindles. They dont have the correct taper !!!!
4/ Welds. Even when i started welding, i made better welds ...had to redo them too.
5/ tolerances. I had to redo every damn misalignment spacer, because none of them was ROUND. And none of them had any tightness in them. And they were made of "cheese metal" too .


So please dont even talk about the quality standards of EMUSA... I think it would have cost me less to have a fabricator make these arms ...

I think i WILL talk about the quality standards of emusa. In fact, i'm going to stand behind them right now with MY control arms i got from them. (had to correct myself because i was calling them godspeeds. However they are not sold through godspeed/fatboy garage but emotor/emusa and that's who i dealt with on the phone and the name on my receipt and ebay account/paypal.)


I had an issue with their tension rod through bolt spacer thingies not lining up on one arm because the hole was misdrilled. Corrected it myself in about 5 minutes.... The taper on the knuckle shank can also be corrected fairly easy. You can chuck the thing in a damn drill press or small lathe and handle it yourself. My taper was off. I still feel i got more than what i paid for! That's probably because i'm not a fucking retard expecting fine wine on a pabst blue ribbon budget.

1 day After i placed my order for my arms via their ebay store (EMOTOR) they called me on the phone PERSONALLY and asked if it was ok to substitute colors since they were out of stock in red. They were REAL nice about it too. Like so nice you just want to hug them through the phone and even asked to be reassured if i was fine with the substitute. If they didn't give a shit they would have just sent me whatever and left me dead in the water if i didn't have the tooling and resources to fix a few minor defects on my own. They do have a return policy, especially if it's something wrong on their end of things. I chose not to be lazy and fixed my own.

http://vjmorton.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/talladega.jpg

You are a crybaby. Can afford the "right" coilovers yet bitch about trying to cheap out on arms and "having" to put a little elbow grease in. Elbow grease that was YOUR choice. You could have just called them up, explained what was going on with them like a mature adult and sent them back....but now here you are bitching thinking they dont care about their target market that keeps their business afloat. I damn sure wouldn't care after reading your post. I'd be enjoying how delicious your tears are after you voided any chance of a warranty/help.



Back on track....

If anyone DOES track these coilovers and has ran them to fail point? Can you analyze what the cause was like a mature adult?

[Croustibat]

You sure do make yourself look dumb. They do sell cheap stuff and its apparent. It is in no way to be compared to top of the line stuff.

You try to discount an dis credit what was found when actually visiting their facility by the fact that you received a part that didnt meet your standards. You assume their quality control is the worst because
1 the package that was shipped overseas to you in France and was probably screwed up by your own postal service.

2 They felt like they were made out of heavy cheese instead of light metal, whatever that means

3 there was PAINT ON THE THREADS. :rolleyes: When you put something in bold IT DONT MAKE IT A BIGGER DEAL.


Your posts just make you sound like a whiner. I dont have any of my own emusa parts, ive seen them and I personally expect more out of my parts. Spend the money or quit bitching all the time. Their stuff is ok for what it is. I would purchase it before I purchased complete random ebay stuff with no name on it.

So basically, EMUSA screwed me up because i had no way to come and see them ?

You know, this is not the first time i buy something acrosse the world. The package was just a thin box, parts were just piled up separated by a piece of paper, not even cardbox. That damn package wheighted 40lbs !

This is not about delivery, this is about packaging things correctly. Last time i bought control arms, they came in 2 separate packages, each arm pair being in its own little box, and each arm bubble wrapped.

THAT is packaging, and THAT is what i am supposed to get on an oversea package that is worth the 100+$ they charged for shipping, so yes i feel screwed up. Who wouldn't ?

I did not just buy a pair, i bought the full arm set. Every suspension arm, for an S13. And i had to redo all of them, except the rear traction rods (still had to make new misalignment spacers for every arm ...)

The difference between the coilovers here and the build quality of these arms is simple :
while the coilovers are not made to make a car handle, they still do the job, and you can still drive your car safely as long as you dont try to push it hard.

The build quality of these arms are simply dangerous. That is not nitpicking, and i really dont care what you have been told at the factory; i just could not believe what i got. The metal being poor and heavy ? That is what i am supposed to get with a price tag like that, and it still will be stronger than the OEM stamped metal sheets, so i am ok with that.

but everything else ? They make these arms dangerous. A car with these things installed on is just dangerous. Play in the threads and poor non penetrating welds means they will break when loaded. Wrong taper means the knucle has nearly no contact with the stud, meaning it will brreak when loaded again. That is just NOT acceptable. Oval misalignment spacers with too much clearance means there will be play in the suspension, meaning the car will be all over the road.

And it makes me a whiner ? It makes me look dumb ? Seriously, how much are you paid by these guys to even write they have quality standards ?

You do really think this kind of build quality is "acceptable" ? They should not even be allowed to sell these ! I really hope someone sue them for that.

[Croustibat]

You could have just called them up, explained what was going on with them like a mature adult and sent them back....but now here you are bitching thinking they dont care about their target market that keeps their business afloat. I damn sure wouldn't care after reading your post. I'd be enjoying how delicious your tears are after you voided any chance of a warranty/help.


Your post was of course reported for calling me a fucking retard.

BTW yes of course, i could have just done that, repackaging that thing, spending 100+€ to send them back, and then ... wait for something to happen ? Riiiiight.

That was not ONE part that had a problem. 12 arms, 24 misalignment spacers, 4 studs . Only 2 arms where good. I totally understand sometimes there is a glitch, but with that many failed parts, i cant see how it was unintentional.

Sure :facepalm:

[4x4le]

Your either trolling or dont understand English. Maybe a french forum would be better suited for you because half of the crap that you addressed in your last 2 posts have already been addressed or your question dont make sense.

Maybe a distributor in your own country would be smarter for you next time so you dont have to send stuff back to the US. You should have remembered that you do not work for the warrenty department for emusa when you went for your tools and grabbed the phone instead.
Sure AVP sells emusa stuff but mostly just locally or when emailed about it. I dont own AVP, I dont get paid by AVP, Im pretty much detached legally and financially although I do help out because Andy is one of my best friends and he owns it. I tune and am paid by the customer. I could care less if people buy anything from emusa but when someone as dumb as you comes along spreading the bad word about their product for dumb reasons I will take a stand.

Your problem would not be a problem for most people this site because they could have exchanged the parts.

[Croustibat]

Your either trolling or dont understand English. Maybe a french forum would be better suited for you because half of the crap that you addressed in your last 2 posts have already been addressed or your question dont make sense.


i dont have question; i have facts. Emusa sent me poorly packaged dangerous crap and charged a total of 650$ for it. They may be your friends, it does not change the fact that they sold me the shittiest products i have ever seen for an S13.


Maybe a distributor in your own country would be smarter for you next time so you dont have to send stuff back to the US. You should have remembered that you do not work for the warrenty department for emusa when you went for your tools and grabbed the phone instead.


There are no distributors of these products in France. But some sells the same shit, at twice the price, and dont want to hear about "warranty", so either way i am screwed.

Last time i sent back a known defective product to the US, i never saw my money OR product back. That was not with EMUSA, but i was not taking the risk again.

But sure, tell me what would have been their reaction ? "Sorry we sold you the worst piece of shit we have ever made, we are going to replace it" ? Wake up neo ! This does not happen in the world i live. Maybe you would not get such a bad batch, because they know you can send it back. They also know i cant.



Sure AVP sells emusa stuff but mostly just locally or when emailed about it. I dont own AVP, I dont get paid by AVP, Im pretty much detached legally and financially although I do help out because Andy is one of my best friends and he owns it. I tune and am paid by the customer. I could care less if people buy anything from emusa but when someone as dumb as you comes along spreading the bad word about their product for dumb reasons I will take a stand.

Your problem would not be a problem for most people this site because they could have exchanged the parts.

There we go, "he is a friend so i will insult people who spread the bad word against him, because he cant be wrong".

If he does not want people to tell EMUSA sells junk, then he should either have better quality standards or stop selling that.

Now tell me something. I pointed how bad and dangerous these components are. What is your answer to that ? You "visited the facility" ? That is how you know they are good parts ? Did you use any sort of caliper to check for tolerances and roundness ? Surely not. Did you X-ray the welds ? Again, no.

What you did was take a tour around. I am sorry for you kid, but that is not what quality checking is about.

One last thing : these parts are sold as boltons. They clearly arent.

And yes, as soon as the rose joints are dead, i will make my own arms. From actual metal, not cheese ...

[slw240sx]

Thanks, and understood, that is why I put them it in quotes. :coolugh:

I work in marketing actually, I am quite familiar with the "USA Made" marketing campaign. Hehe They most likely buy the parts from all over the world and do some mild assembly in Indiana and throw a paint job on em. Standard procedure now-a-days.

they are not at all assembled there. I have been there a few times myself. its a warehouse. they receive containers from china and sit boxes of them on pallet racking then ship out the boxes of parts when orders come in.

[4x4le]

Once again, I didnt go there, Andy did. He was invited to hang out. He was there on other business. Your bad review has mostly to do with how you didnt want to warrenty something because your in france and that dont pertain to people that live here in the states.

Everything else you keep taking out of context toward me. Im done with you. Buy big name stuff since your tastes seem to be much more for that kind of thing, hell thats what I do. Quickly youll find that shit aint perfect either.

[Mishkin_707]

Your post was of course reported for calling me a fucking retard.

BTW yes of course, i could have just done that, repackaging that thing, spending 100+€ to send them back, and then ... wait for something to happen ? Riiiiight.

That was not ONE part that had a problem. 12 arms, 24 misalignment spacers, 4 studs . Only 2 arms where good. I totally understand sometimes there is a glitch, but with that many failed parts, i cant see how it was unintentional.

Sure :facepalm:

Is it me or he's the only one in the world who had redrilled and blah blah blah?

You sure you weren't putting the driver side on the passenger side and vise versa?

Why are you crying about boxes? That gets thrown out no? How damaged were the parts from not being packed separately?

I want to see pics too, if you had so many problems with every item then I would've taken pics of everything

Do you even really own any of the said parts? Or just a fanboy putting people down?

[Croustibat]

Once again, I didnt go there, Andy did. He was invited to hang out. He was there on other business. Your bad review has mostly to do with how you didnt want to warrenty something because your in france and that dont pertain to people that live here in the states.

Everything else you keep taking out of context toward me. Im done with you. Buy big name stuff since your tastes seem to be much more for that kind of thing, hell thats what I do. Quickly youll find that shit aint perfect either.

My bad review is based purely on facts. Not on impressions. You, andy, it does not matter. "Someone" said "quality is good because i went to the factory", and i say quality is the worst i have ever seen on my batch", and i list everything that was not correct.

If they had quality checks, this batch would have gone straight to the bin; or it might have been put aside to be sent to someone that would not send it back. Either way, that is LAME.

So i will say it once again: buying cheap control arms means they may have a bit of work to do on them, they may be heavier, they may have a poor finish. I am totally prepared to get that when buying cheap. Even that cheese metal, i am somewhat ok to get that for that price. But i am not ok with non penetrating welds, oval misalignment spacers, wrong taper nor that much play in threads. That is just not acceptable.

What i am not prepared to do is having to work on nearly every part that was in the box to get something that is not dangerous to install. Being in France does not change that. Unless that is just xenophobic talk, which would not surprise me that much either.


Is it me or he's the only one in the world who had redrilled and blah blah blah? [...]


It is just you, now you can keep your gibberish to yourself. There is someone else on this very thread that had the same kind of problem, and you can also see the same happening to people on every thread that takes handling seriously.


Do you even really own any of the said parts? Or just a fanboy putting people down?

Oh my ... fanboy ? Fanboy of what ?

I am not even going to post pics of my s13, because your next post is going to be "these are not pics from your car" or another stupid answer. How about you come and see for yourself ? My car is currently at my tuners (getting new injectors and manifold and cant be bothered to do it myself), want the address ? Better then, i will even give my order number and the date, will that "prove things enough and shut your mouth ? :gives:


It really looks like i have not made myself clear ...

The coilovers they sell, while they are clearly not up to the job damping /rebound wise, are constructed well enough. They do the job, and while they sure wont give the handling you get from mid /high priced coilovers, they still do the job.

On the other hand, there are their suspension arms. These are simply dangerous to fit, because the build quality is terrible. any business man in his right mind would have binned what i was sold. There is no way to keep this silent, really. These parts are just not up to the job, they are dangerous.

[ttLOVEjh s13]

Aight I think Im getting these Emusa coil as My DD....

[Daviticus]

The coilovers they sell, while they are clearly not up to the job damping /rebound wise, are constructed well enough. They do the job, and while they sure wont give the handling you get from mid /high priced coilovers, they still do the job.

This is all you needed to say. As this is a "coilover review" and not a "suspension arm review", the information you provided about the arms is null and void for this topic of discussion. You are more than welcome to voice your displeasure about the products that weren't up to your expectations, but please only do so if it pertains to this thread. Harsh generalizations of all products based on the failures of few is brash and reckless.

That being said, while I probably won't be picking up EMUSA coils anytime soon, there is a possibility I may be getting CXRacing coils [may as well be the same thing with different paint] relatively soon. Seems like I may just have to get them, drive hard on them for a few months, buy used Teins, and used K-Sports, then do some skidpad testing in addition to driver reviews. THAT, would be information well-needed for those that want to turn or slide on a budget.

[motteramm]

OP are the coils blown now?

UPDATE!!

These are still functioning fine and have not blown or had any leaks. As others have stated before and now after running them for over a year my only two complaints are the ride quality. Its not the greatest but not back breaking. Also the rear don't go as low as i would like but other than that they still do the job. I have done at least 6 events on these and they still feel fine.

[Kingbaby]

Good update!

If it works it works...

[limited240]

Update now!! Haha

[Livid_240sx]

Update

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[Banker]

My emusa coilovers still going strong had them on for a year and 4 months now. Daily driven s14. you can lower your car to the floor (or pretty close to it) with these by the way, if anyone cares about the drop part.

[Livid_240sx]

Never heard of this brand really before stumbling across this thread, what is the part number and do you know if it's applicable to a s13?


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[Banker]

yeah they make them for s13 also. Don't know the part number just their basic coilovers (non-dampening adjustable) is what I have.

[5280VertDET]

Never heard of this brand really before stumbling across this thread, what is the part number and do you know if it's applicable to a s13?


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Go to eBay, search s13 coilover, there they are.

Cheap coilovers with drop for days, consider raceland.

[Livid_240sx]

Go to eBay, search s13 coilover, there they are.

Cheap coilovers with drop for days, consider raceland.

Not sold on Raceland yet. What got me about these as I read about them is the price and how they're basically a Megan set up.

I also don't always trust ebay 100%. Rather buy direct or have a part number to enter into ebay. You know? Been sold knock offs and burned before.

[Banker]

go to Speedyracer Performance Auto Parts (http://speedyracer.com) and you will see what they have

[billyinse]

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i122/billyinse/photobucket-13614-1382922928160_zps7c551bd5.jpg (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/billyinse/media/photobucket-13614-1382922928160_zps7c551bd5.jpg.html)

my 240 came with the emusa coils already on it. when i got the 240 i had the guy give me the stock shocks and springs as i figured the coils were going to be crap... in reality they ride better than the eibach sport kit i had on my last car that cost 2x the price. i actually tried to break something when i first got the 240. i beat the piss out of it, hit every pothole and dip in the road. i have since stored the stock setup in the way back of my garage. im sure that a more expensive unit would perform better but so far these have held up better than i ever imagined.

[ndfelts26]

I always wanted to try emusa coils but didn't know thanks for the input that will help my buying desicion

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[ndfelts26]

How low do emusa's lower in the front and back lookin for specs for my s14

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[billyinse]

you could put the car on the ground if you wanted to.

[Reece]

Emusas ride really well but they are the shittiest fucking coilovers I have ever seen. Mine ended up costing me a LOT more than just buying good coilovers at first would have.

[billyinse]

What kind of problems did you have?

[ndfelts26]

They have good reviews emusa isn't just on eBay the reason they are on eBay is because that is there main way of selling them to the public and they have different options but if your looking for coils on a budget I would get those for now how do you think every other coil over brand got started they had to start somewhere

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[supersayianjim]

ive ran cheapo coilovers for years. hundred mile trips, track events, road courses, high speed racing. and these coils never missed a beat!!

[ndfelts26]

Supersayianjim what coilovers did you use that were cheap and good

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[sleepyS14se]

i would assume he is referring to emusa

[supersayianjim]

Supersayianjim what coilovers did you use that were cheap and good

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If you click on my link to my build thread you will see them. should be on the last 3 pages.

[Atill93]

i've been running them for over a year now. they've held up well and i've been happy with them. only issue is they don't go low enough. i wanna lay frame but i cant. ebay coilovers ftw

[ndfelts26]

Can you at least tuck tire?

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[Atill93]

Can you at least tuck tire?

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in the rear yeah, but not in the front

[Reece]

What kind of problems did you have?

After about 300 miles one of the top hat bolts came so loose that it fell off, and after 400 miles the fucking pillow mount blew to pieces.

I have Stance now. No complaints.

[sleepyS14se]

^ see it is posts like that that make me question purchasing a set of coils like emusa...
then you read about so many success stories..... :/

[ndfelts26]

It really depends on the luck of the draw its like the lottery

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[JrDarknes]

^ see it is posts like that that make me question purchasing a set of coils like emusa...
then you read about so many success stories..... :/


Meh... I really think it depends how the preload is set or how it's installed.

When I bought my car I had Godspeed Coilovers, well I broke them hitting a curb..... I decided to get emusa since I needed a new set.

Got them installed PROFESSIONALLY, which might make a difference idk.

I've hit plenty of curbs at faster rates and they still work fine. Ride quality is decent, but I only say this because I've only driven the so called "bad Coilovers" so far and people say these ride like shit compared to the higher level Coilovers.

Honestly if your going to get something like Godspeed,race land or Megan, IDE rather get emusa.

Just because I've had emusa and Godspeed and I swear they feel the same to me.

Almost to a year and I've driven over 5000 miles on them. No complaint.




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[MamangSorbetero]

At least get JSK coilovers. They're pretty much the same price as Emusa but they're a complete copy of the more expensive, Apexi coilovers.

They also have damper adjustability compared to Emusa which has none.

[CaliforniaMayhem]

I bought my 93 240sx hatchback with EMUSA coilovers installed. And as for people saying you can't drop them low in the front, WRONG.

The PO (previous owner) had left the bottom collars off (4 in total). I thought that it was one for each corner but when I jacked the car up, i found out the fronts had no collars at all. This car was so damn low it was scraping on regular roads with no irregularities. He had "lowlife" stickers and all kinds of crap.

Anyways, I raised all 4 corners and installed the collars up front and they are decent coils. They don't have dampening adjustability but it's not to bouncy.

As for Reece's experience, I think I ALMOST had a similar incident. IT was my friends fault tho as he loosened the top 17mm bolt for some reason and I didn't realize until I drove it home and noticed an odd noise. If you are really worried about it just snug it with an impact.

In the future I will be doing a s14 subframe with z32 uprights so I'll be looking at nice coilovers (stance or something that supports the Fork-Type shock) next but for now, that'll do little pig....that'll do.

[Atill93]

I bought my 93 240sx hatchback with EMUSA coilovers installed. And as for people saying you can't drop them low in the front, WRONG.

The PO (previous owner) had left the bottom collars off (4 in total). I thought that it was one for each corner but when I jacked the car up, i found out the fronts had no collars at all. This car was so damn low it was scraping on regular roads with no irregularities. He had "lowlife" stickers and all kinds of crap.

Anyways, I raised all 4 corners and installed the collars up front and they are decent coils. They don't have dampening adjustability but it's not to bouncy.

As for Reece's experience, I think I ALMOST had a similar incident. IT was my friends fault tho as he loosened the top 17mm bolt for some reason and I didn't realize until I drove it home and noticed an odd noise. If you are really worried about it just snug it with an impact.

In the future I will be doing a s14 subframe with z32 uprights so I'll be looking at nice coilovers (stance or something that supports the Fork-Type shock) next but for now, that'll do little pig....that'll do.
how the hell did that work with no collar in the front!? i wish i could get my front low

[CaliforniaMayhem]

So my coilovers I'm the front have 3 collars. He only had one on and it was on the bottom of the thread resting on the bracket. I can't upload a photo from my phone or I'd show you.

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[Atill93]

So my coilovers I'm the front have 3 collars. He only had one on and it was on the bottom of the thread resting on the bracket. I can't upload a photo from my phone or I'd show you.

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http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/yy170/atill93/1991%20Nissan%20240sx%20Coupe/IMG_1049_zpse3f0d4ab.jpg (http://s788.photobucket.com/user/atill93/media/1991%20Nissan%20240sx%20Coupe/IMG_1049_zpse3f0d4ab.jpg.html)

http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/yy170/atill93/1991%20Nissan%20240sx%20Coupe/IMG_1050_zps9fc2d21f.jpg (http://s788.photobucket.com/user/atill93/media/1991%20Nissan%20240sx%20Coupe/IMG_1050_zps9fc2d21f.jpg.html)

like this right? i'm on 18s and im still not flush in the front

[CaliforniaMayhem]

Bro just like that but pink. This car was scraping on ANYTHING. I had to drive it 30-45 mph anywhere for the first day or two. He had these stupid stickers on it too "lowlife". Man I'm about to sell these and pick up some stance coils soon

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[Atill93]

Bro just like that but pink. This car was scraping on ANYTHING. I had to drive it 30-45 mph anywhere for the first day or two. He had these stupid stickers on it too "lowlife". Man I'm about to sell these and pick up some stance coils soon

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damn they really don't go that low though, unless i have them setup wrong... hmmm

[CaliforniaMayhem]

Atill93: there are two types of EMusa coilovers. The pink are only height adjustable and the other color is for dampening. Maybe the pink go lower?

Hey I don't want to create a new thread about this question so I'll ask here.

Supposedly EMusa coilovers are the are as Godspeed (maybe Megan). Has anyone tried using the z32 rear mount from another company with these coils? I want FA510's but I cannot afford them yet so for the time being I wanted to order some rear mounts (~$140 or so) but which ones?

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[OutlawLui]

Have them on my s13 for 2 years, 20,000 miles . Mostly Freeway

Positive:
-Still not blown after 2 years
-Feel better than the much stiffer Megan tracks for daily
-Good price
-Emusa has great customer service. And always willing to help

Negative
-Play in the Sleeves. Collars have to be super tight to get rid of it
-One of the coilovers had a lot of play on the top pillow ball. Just had to
take the Body apart sand them down and when bolted it back up. All was great
-On the rear coilovers the sleeve/bushing where the lca meet up is a really weak material.
If you over tighten the nut the little sleeve will compress .i fixed this by adding a second nut.

Over all im happy with them. But would not recommend them to anyone. Just Save up a lil more and get something better . Its hit or miss with these .