Hub centric whee spacer help

[jperez311]

Helloo.

So I have a question. I'm new to this spacer stuff but I'm asking so I can do it right.
I'm trying to buy some wheel spacers for my s14.
My question is
1) how do I know what spacers will be the right size for the hub bore.
2) how do I know the bore of the hubcentric part of the spacer.
3) what centric ring to use on my ssr gpo set up.
Don't know what size spacers I want to use yet because idk what camber ima run. Looking for almost flush look with a tinny bit of fender pull in the rear
Very little camber to save tires more.
Basically I want to use hubcentric spacers the right way so if you got tips then help a fellow zilvian out please.

Thanks

[Croustibat]

questions 1) and 2) : by measuring them. i think it is 66.6mm on S13/14 .

question 3) : i dont know.

advice : dont use slipons, use bolt ons. 25mm minimum.
Even better, get proper offset wheels.

Or best of all, get longer/adjustable lower control arm ... otherwise you are going to screw your scrub radius, and burn front tires when turning. You may also have problems with tires touching wheel arches when turning.

Camber wise, 0.5-1° rear / 1.5° front is good for handling ... but if you lowered the car the geometry is already screwed up, and so is your camber and toe curves, so you will eat tires anyway.

[jperez311]

I would like to get new wheels but I do like my SSR GPOs because they are rare now days and I just like there look. And they are SSRs lol.
Shoot I would love to rebarrel them but that's not in my wallet at the moment.

I do want to slamm the car but it looks like I can't because it's just not in my wallet as of right now.
Ima give it a kit to minimize me lowering it so far down (supermade) So it looks like ima get the spl adjustable arms since I hear their products are pretty good. Not anytime soon tho.
I do want to slide it SOMEDAY but just want her to be pretty for now. I guess I'll have to deal with tire wear. But im starting to drive slower just because it's more relaxing and not worry about speeding.

[Skilz10179]

Check out the spacers from Powered By Max.

[jperez311]

Check out the spacers from Powered By Max.

Thanks for the info. I forgot they had those

[jperez311]

Does anyone know if 25mm and 30mm hubcenteric spacers are safe. Ima be looking at PBM and ichiba or how ever you spell it. I'm just worrying about them breaking. I don't track my car. I know to torque them I just don't want to be on the freeway and then something happen. I drive slow but yea.

Are those brands a good choice. I don't have money for wheels at the moment so that's not an option

[Croustibat]

You cant fit hubcentric spacers without longer studs, which will cost more than boltons.

TBH, be realistic. If you dont have money, dont modify your car, simple as that. Especially if it is just to "look cool".

[mad-ass]

So, there is a time frame in your life when you make a decision, and this may be one of them.

What do you want to do with your car? in a long run.

Don't go off and buy stupid stuff only for you to spend more money to get the right stuff.

For example, you want wheel "A", and it costs $2000 let's say, but because you can't afford it now so you buy wheel "B" that costs $900 instead and tell yourself that you'll get the wheel "A" later down the road when you have more money. you become more broke and try to sell the wheel "B" for $500 to buy the wheel "A" you always wanted and no one buys the wheel "B".

see the point here?

Buy the right item once and be done with it. don't waste your time in buying something that will suit you for now just for you to buy the item that you always wanted.

Now, to truly answer your question for hub centric spacers.

All hub centric spacers are made so that the extruding end of the spacer's hub bore are exactly same as your hub bore.

So if your hub bore is 50mm let's say, and you buy a hub centric spacer for 50mm hub, your spacer will also have 50mm of hub bore because the purpose of the spacer is to replicate the exact hub bore of your car's hub bore.

S14...
Front/Rear Hub center bore: 66.2

So, to wrap this up for your question.

part 1) and 2) of your question, read the description of the parts you buy, it'll have the exact specs on it, other wise why would you want you buy such item with no specs on it?

part 3) of your question is simple. take a measurement of your aftermarket wheel hub bore... in this case you mentioned it's SSR, they sell hub centric rings to go with a lot of different car manufactures. then buy the correct size one's.

the website lists it as..."hub bore of the wheel" -/to "hub bore of the car"

SSR Wheels - Motorsports (http://www.ssr-wheels.com/parts/)


I've used both hub centric and non-hub centric spacers on my car the length of time on track and off track, no problems with them so far, but I certainly prefer hub centric spacers. the whole point of hub centric is so that the load on the wheel go to the wheel hub instead of the studs, thus less stress and more balanced wheel to the car.

now... Croustibat, your statement is not correct. Ichiba spacers offer bolt on spacers that have vehicle specific hub centric ring inserts, so that you can still utilize the hub centric rings with their bolt-on spacers.


and finally to the OP, I hope I answered all your questions, but please do some homework next time you post something. I may have given you all the answers but you may not run into someone like me on the forums next time you ask a question about something, especially if it's something so simple as this one.

fuck, how come everyone that replied to this thread couldn't give straight up answer? damn this world.

[Vaevictus]

You need to find which wheels you are set on purchasing, find out the hub bore of those wheels either through research or by calling a distributor (because not all wheels have the same bore, especially OEM wheels from different automakers, i.e. running BMW wheels), and purchase a set of conversion hubs. Google really is the greatest search tool. Keep in mind if you go the conversion hub route you have the same options; bolt-on or slip-on and knowing your needed offsets and other such pertinent data will dictate the best options for your needs.

There are many routes to take to get your end result, some cheap, and some legit. If you give two shits about your ride don't sacrifice quality. Do it right, do research. Time learning anything is time well spent.

edit* madass beat me to it and dropped all the knowledge you need

[jperez311]

You cant fit hubcentric spacers without longer studs, which will cost more than boltons.

TBH, be realistic. If you dont have money, dont modify your car, simple as that. Especially if it is just to "look cool".

It's not really that I don't have the money. It's going to school. I rather spend money on my school rather than wheels. And plus I'm not a want to be baller trying to make myself look good or "look cool". I like the wheels that I already have. I like my SSR GPOs. All I wanted to do was spacer them to be flush.

[jperez311]

So, there is a time frame in your life when you make a decision, and this may be one of them.

What do you want to do with your car? in a long run.

Don't go off and buy stupid stuff only for you to spend more money to get the right stuff.

For example, you want wheel "A", and it costs $2000 let's say, but because you can't afford it now so you buy wheel "B" that costs $900 instead and tell yourself that you'll get the wheel "A" later down the road when you have more money. you become more broke and try to sell the wheel "B" for $500 to buy the wheel "A" you always wanted and no one buys the wheel "B".

see the point here?

Buy the right item once and be done with it. don't waste your time in buying something that will suit you for now just for you to buy the item that you always wanted.

Now, to truly answer your question for hub centric spacers.

All hub centric spacers are made so that the extruding end of the spacer's hub bore are exactly same as your hub bore.

So if your hub bore is 50mm let's say, and you buy a hub centric spacer for 50mm hub, your spacer will also have 50mm of hub bore because the purpose of the spacer is to replicate the exact hub bore of your car's hub bore.

S14...
Front/Rear Hub center bore: 66.2

So, to wrap this up for your question.

part 1) and 2) of your question, read the description of the parts you buy, it'll have the exact specs on it, other wise why would you want you buy such item with no specs on it?

part 3) of your question is simple. take a measurement of your aftermarket wheel hub bore... in this case you mentioned it's SSR, they sell hub centric rings to go with a lot of different car manufactures. then buy the correct size one's.

the website lists it as..."hub bore of the wheel" -/to "hub bore of the car"

SSR Wheels - Motorsports (http://www.ssr-wheels.com/parts/)


I've used both hub centric and non-hub centric spacers on my car the length of time on track and off track, no problems with them so far, but I certainly prefer hub centric spacers. the whole point of hub centric is so that the load on the wheel go to the wheel hub instead of the studs, thus less stress and more balanced wheel to the car.

now... Croustibat, your statement is not correct. Ichiba spacers offer bolt on spacers that have vehicle specific hub centric ring inserts, so that you can still utilize the hub centric rings with their bolt-on spacers.


and finally to the OP, I hope I answered all your questions, but please do some homework next time you post something. I may have given you all the answers but you may not run into someone like me on the forums next time you ask a question about something, especially if it's something so simple as this one.

fuck, how come everyone that replied to this thread couldn't give straight up answer? damn this world.

Thanks I just wanted a little more help. Honestly I need a person to specifically tell me what I needed to do. Sometimes u just need that extra person to push u.

[Croustibat]

It's not really that I don't have the money. It's going to school. I rather spend money on my school rather than wheels. And plus I'm not a want to be baller trying to make myself look good or "look cool".[...] All I wanted to do was spacer them to be flush.

watch carefully the 2 bold statements. Cant you see something is wrong here ?

TBH i went to school with a crappy 100$ car. And i do still run old and dorky yet inexpensive cars.When i got a job, i bought myself an S13. By experience, i can tell these cars cost a lot of money to run, insure, build and whatever. Not the thing to run if you are short on cash, or going to school.

You also need to carefully remember that you are probably less smart than the guys who designed the car (not just you i mean), which mean every mod you are doing will worsen the way it drives (unless you have the knowledge and the $$$ to do things right - and you dont).

Now do as you please, really ... but try think about the bigger picture.

[jperez311]

Anyways thanks?