S13 instument cluster in S15 dashboard writeup

[Midnight Shift]

So, after telling myself that I would just do a flocked dash on my S13 coupe, I found a sweet deal that I couldn’t resist. A full S15 dash with lower panels, glove box, etc...AND instrument cluster on Yahoo Auctions Japan for 4,000 yen (about 50 USD!!!!!!!) I said...forget the flock...I’m going S15 stock...foo....

So, after getting my dash (super sweet condition! even came w/ airbag!! But I’ll throw that out...) I was looking into remedies that people have found for what to do for instrumentation. I was thinking about using the S15 instruments but I didn’t want to spend too much money for a speed signal modifier to get the speedometer to work, and I don’t have the pigtail connectors for the S15 instruments!

So, I decided that I would have to just find out a way to put my S13 instrument cluster into the S15 dashboard. I figured it was the easiest for a plug and play setup.

NOTE: You will lose the fuel-warning-lamp function, the battery-warning lamp function, and the fuel and temp gauge back lighting. (you can always figure out something with the lighting though.) But what isn’t without compromise, right?

Keep in mind, I wanted to keep this as “stock looking as possible” with no gaps around the bezel, etc.

You need:
S15 bezel and (optional clear cover)
S13 instrument cluster
Make your own trim to fit around the actual gauges.
And
Tools to cut through plastic (most of the S13 instrument cluster’s plastic is soft and really easy to cut with just a razor blade, so that’s what I used and it worked well.)
http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s411/MidnightShift/S13%20for%20Zilvia/DSC_0358.jpg

The main problem, is that the S13 cluster is too long to fit in to the S15 dash because there are barrier walls on both sides of where the cluster fits.
http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s411/MidnightShift/S13%20for%20Zilvia/DSC_0406.jpg


So, there are two solutions to this, cut the barriers, or cut the S13 instrument cluster to fit. I was thinking that the most logical way would be to cut the barriers on the dash, instead of Frankenstein-ing it all, but once I measured everything, the long S13 cluster would bump into the center vent’s box (3 center vents on the S15 dash) and I wanted to retain that box because I wanted my A/C and heater because Japanese winters are cold as xxxx and summers are hot and humid as xxxx. So, I ended up cutting up the S13 cluster to make it fit without cutting in to the dash.

Strip your S13 cluster of everything...you’ll also have to take off the electrical sheet on the back.
http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s411/MidnightShift/S13%20for%20Zilvia/DSC_0367.jpg

Take the S15 bezel and fit it over the S13 instruments. You can see the overlap of the S13 cluster and will have to cut out the over lap. Measure where you’ll have to cut. I cut out where the red marks are. Cut that ish.
Also, break off the S13 bottom L and R tabs.
http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s411/MidnightShift/S13%20for%20Zilvia/DSC_0368.jpg

[IMG]http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s411/MidnightShift/S13%20for%20Zilvia/DSC_0377.jpg
http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s411/MidnightShift/S13%20for%20Zilvia/DSC_0379.jpg
http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s411/MidnightShift/S13%20for%20Zilvia/DSC_0381.jpg


Then when I tried to fit it in the S15 dash, I realized I would have to cut more because it wouldn’t fit in smoothly....so these green lines are the actual cut lines.
http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s411/MidnightShift/S13%20for%20Zilvia/DSC_0384.jpg
http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s411/MidnightShift/S13%20for%20Zilvia/DSC_0385.jpg

This is what it should look like.
http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s411/MidnightShift/S13%20for%20Zilvia/DSC_0386.jpg

Put your S13 gauges back together and tape up the overlaying electrical sheet.
http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s411/MidnightShift/S13%20for%20Zilvia/DSC_0387.jpg
http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s411/MidnightShift/S13%20for%20Zilvia/DSC_0394.jpg

Now you'll see that your "new" instrument cluster will fit into the dashboard without any problems!!!
http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s411/MidnightShift/S13%20for%20Zilvia/DSC_0396.jpg

The next part is the hardest and most time consuming, but its not impossible. You'll need to make a new gauge overlay so that you only see the gauges and not the stuff going on in the cluster behind them. You'll have to Frankenstein the two S13 and S15 overlays to make your own. Then trace out your own template! S13.5 overlay action right here!
http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s411/MidnightShift/S13%20for%20Zilvia/DSC_0399.jpg

I actually messed this one up pretty bad...so I ended up going to the hardware store and getting 1mm acrylic glass and cutting my overlay out of that.
http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s411/MidnightShift/S13%20for%20Zilvia/DSC_0400.jpg

Here is the acrylic one that I busted out some dope manoeuvres with...Its not perfect, but I was very happy with the way it turned out!
http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s411/MidnightShift/S13%20for%20Zilvia/DSC_0401.jpg

And here it is all assembled!

http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s411/MidnightShift/S13%20for%20Zilvia/DSC_0403.jpg


Then I just made some brackets to put it all together! Here it is finished.

http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s411/MidnightShift/S13%20for%20Zilvia/DSC_0365-1.jpg
http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s411/MidnightShift/S13%20for%20Zilvia/DSC_0366-1.jpg
http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s411/MidnightShift/S13%20for%20Zilvia/DSC_0364-1.jpg
http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s411/MidnightShift/S13%20for%20Zilvia/DSC_0371-1.jpg

[hobbs]

Why just not use the S15 cluster? Good work regardless!

[Midnight Shift]

Why just not use the S15 cluster? Good work regardless!

Thanks! I was thinking about using the S15 cluster, but I don't need to be spending money for a signal converter for the speedometer. Plus I don't have the wire connectors for the S15 cluster, so it would make wiring a pain...

..and I just like to Frankenstein things! ! ! ! !

[KendallH]

The S15 cluster looks 100x better than the S13 one though... plus you're in Japan, shouldn't it be pretty easy to source the pigtails and save up for a signal converter?

[FRpilot]

now here i am making plans to put a s15 cluster into my s13 and you're doing the exact opposite. :rofl:

nice work though :bow:

[fliprayzin240sx]

Here's another idea:
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk227/okislick5252/Rocket%20Bunny%20Sil80/P1010249.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk227/okislick5252/Rocket%20Bunny%20Sil80/P1010253.jpg

[corby_baby]

nice work!

[Midnight Shift]

The S15 cluster looks 100x better than the S13 one though... plus you're in Japan, shouldn't it be pretty easy to source the pigtails and save up for a signal converter?

I know it looks baller-status w/ the S15 cluster and I really thought of doing this, but my S13.5 Frankenstein will plug right it and I only had to spend 1,000 yen (12 bucks) for the acrylic glass...and I'm happy the way it turned out...plus...even being in Japan its not easy to come by pigtails!! You can usually get them with a cluster online but they are about 100 bucks! I got a full dash and instrument cluster for about 50! Besides, who doesn't like custom making things like this?

now here i am making plans to put a s15 cluster into my s13 and you're doing the exact opposite. :rofl:

nice work though :bow:

Thanks for the kudos! Do you already have parts for it? When you finish it up, let me know about any trouble or hints you might have...I'm still considering doing this in the future. I have a redtop SR w/ no ABS...so I'm not sure about how to do all the wiring...all I know is that you need an S14 or S15 temp sensor to get the temp gauge working...don't know if fuel sender needs finiggling with?

and @ fliprayzin240sx, I'm glad you posted that picture, cause I wasn't sure if my roll bars were going to clear the dash...but they should!!! Is that your dash??? It's really nice...I ALMOST did the same thing w/ the exact same tacho! Do you have any experience w/ the S15 dash into an S13? How does the heater stuff need to be modified to work??? any clues???

[Midnight Shift]

Finally got it finished today! I don't know when I will get around to putting the dash in my car cause it's getting hot and humid as all hell over here...Plus before I do that, I need to swap out my busted engine first, (drifting kills engines!!!:eek:) But I'm planning on doing a detailed write up on how to do that as well...I would love to see someone's writeup on a LHD S15 dash though...that would be mean!!!

http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s411/MidnightShift/S13%20for%20Zilvia/20130514_162736_zps30d41744.jpg

http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s411/MidnightShift/S13%20for%20Zilvia/20130514_162744_zpsef3a5f4c.jpg