did i just sieze my engine..

[conor14]

So I got home today and parked my car in my garage after letting it idle and cool down and noticed some smoke coming from under the hood, so I immediatly turned off my car, and noticed my fans were not working ( there dual electric fans with a on/off switch ) So I popped the hood and my over flow was smoking.. I checked my temp gauge and it was at H so i fiddled with the switch till my fans turned on. I let it cool down all the way and now it won't even turn over..

YES IM AWARE IM A STUPID FUCKING MORON

I checked the dipstick and theres no sign of coolant, just looks likes oil. I checked the rad fluid and theres still lots of coolant in it..
My question is.. am I that stupid and just sieze my engine..

[AsleepAltima]

try putting a socket on the crankshaft pulley and turning it. if it moves - no, its not siezed. does the starter make any kind of noise? like its trying to engage?

[conor14]

makes a single hum like noise then goes away and i will try that but i need a pretty big socket haha ill have to wait till i can borrow a socket that big from someone

[AsleepAltima]

you can try this too - try popping the clutch like you would do if the battery is dead. if the tires lock up - the engine isnt spinning.

[conor14]

i got a socket on the crankshaft pulley and it spun freely so its not siezed!!

but now I gotta figure out why its not starting..
the starter isnt even trying, im thinking its either a bad wire, the starter, or starter relay,

[AsleepAltima]

That's good news at least. You need to figure out why it got so hot though. Check all of your connections to the starter and check your battery voltage during cranking. If it starts, you need to determine if your thermostat and water pump are working.

[fliprayzin240sx]

That's good news at least. You need to figure out why it got so hot though. Check all of your connections to the starter and check your battery voltage during cranking. If it starts, you need to determine if your thermostat and water pump are working.

He already said how it got hot...his fans weren't working.

[OutlawLui]

damn that sucks, hope it didn't warp

[AsleepAltima]

He already said how it got hot...his fans weren't working.
that answers absolutely nothing. fans are only supposed to come on when you are stopped or traveling too slow for the radiator to do its job. thats engine cooling basics 101.

[ultimateirving]

no doubt something in ur wiring of the fans cause a short with ur starter or such
start by making sure the starter isgrounded properly and recieving 12v. then if it still doesnt crank, beat on the starter a few times(with a metal rod or something u can get in there.) see if IT is in fact siezed.

[Dolby109]

that answers absolutely nothing. fans are only supposed to come on when you are stopped or traveling too slow for the radiator to do its job. thats engine cooling basics 101.
240's come stock with a mechanical fan that runs all the time.

Esp if you have a FMIC, you need the fans running at any speed below ~50.

I overheated my SR once by not turning on the fans, but luckily it didnt cause any damage.

[JDMRIDDAZ]

U better hope u didnt fuse the rings to the pistons and lost comp...
It happened to me on my first sr..

[AsleepAltima]

240's come stock with a mechanical fan that runs all the time.

Esp if you have a FMIC, you need the fans running at any speed below ~50.

I overheated my SR once by not turning on the fans, but luckily it didnt cause any damage.
technically, it doesnt run all the time because of the clutch. but i know what youre saying. i removed that fan on all of my 240's first thing and replaced them with electronically controlled fans. if you run an fmic - and i do - it doesnt block the radiator. theres more than enough room in there for it to flow. my sr never gets over a 1/4 on the gauge. fans running while youre going down the road will actually block air flow. to add this - he said his fans werent working... the default for the clutch is to lock up so he must not be running a mechanical fan.

[fliprayzin240sx]

that answers absolutely nothing. fans are only supposed to come on when you are stopped or traveling too slow for the radiator to do its job. thats engine cooling basics 101.

Yup, cuz thats what the mechanical stock fans do...they stop spinning when you're driving. There is no clutch on the stock fan, its not like a AC pulley clutch if thats what you're thinking. They spin contantly, only thing that happens is they dont spin as fast as the engine when it gets up in the revs.

[AsleepAltima]

Yup, cuz thats what the mechanical stock fans do...they stop spinning when you're driving. There is no clutch on the stock fan, its not like a AC pulley clutch if thats what you're thinking. They spin contantly, only thing that happens is they dont spin as fast as the engine when it gets up in the revs.
no, i know exactly how they work - i hold a degree in automotive technology that ive had since 93. lol.
it does indeed have a clutch. as the clutch heats up, it grips the shaft on the fan and spins it faster. as it cools - when youre driving, it relaxes its hold. we dont know though at what point his car started to overheat - while he was driving or while he was idle. thats the important clue we need to know.

[conor14]

sorry for the late reply ive been super busy with school and diplomas. where is the starter located? hahah sorry my first sr i bought the car 2 weeks ago,

and i know if it warped im frigged BUT there are alot of people selling sr engines in my area right now so i need to figure this out asap and if it spun doesnt that mean the rings are fine??

[AsleepAltima]

the starter is on the passenger side of the engine where the engine meets the trans. pretty much right behind the motor mount.

[Butcher240sx]

Sounds like the starter got cooked. Common on old cars. Called heat soak.

[AsleepAltima]

so what ever happened??

[jr_ss]

no, i know exactly how they work - i hold a degree in automotive technology that ive had since 93. lol.
it does indeed have a clutch. as the clutch heats up, it grips the shaft on the fan and spins it faster. as it cools - when youre driving, it relaxes its hold. we dont know though at what point his car started to overheat - while he was driving or while he was idle. thats the important clue we need to know.

It's called a viscous coupler... And it works on the same principles of a viscous differential.

[ka4life87]

I have a feeling u blew a headgasket, crank the engine with radiator cap off if u see coolant gushing out while cranking for sure u blew a gasket or cracked/ warped head, or try doing compression test

[stockdrift]

I don't know if Canada has pep boys or auto
Step one your car is two weeks old so you have no clue the condition of the wiring or the age/ condition of the battery

Get it test see if it's good you will always need a good battery
Check and tripple check all wires and cables especially if your battery is in the trunk
If all wire and voltage check out

Take out the starter depending on how mechanically incline you are it will take 20 mins with a ratchet wrench. You will need a ratchet wrench or it will take a long long time and you will need a length of thin rop or an old shoe lace.

Take starter to autozone checkers Pepboys get it tested

You will not need a whole new starter just the selonid the little thing were all the wires connect to the starter they run 15 to 25 bucks a new one a used so so starter will start at 100 bucks