ISIS Radiator vs.....

[webgeek]

I'm in the need for a new radiator and was wondering if anyone has had any issues with the isis radiators and/or hoses?

*ISIS Radiator Cooling Package - Nissan 240sx KA24DE 95-98 - Enjuku Racing Parts, LLC (http://www.enjukuracing.com/products/%2AISIS-Radiator-Cooling-Package-%252d-Nissan-240sx-KA24DE-95%252d98.html)

Or any recommendations would be greatly appreciated :D I'm also going with efans

[slydin240sx]

Brace yourself.

[webgeek]

Brace yourself.

lol :coold:

[Promise Land]

The video at the bottom of the Enjuku page is of me installing the radiator and fans into my '95. I've had no problems with the radiator or fans since installing them last year. I will be picking up a set of the ISIS hoses in the next couple of weeks also. My old hoses finally have met their time.

[webgeek]

The video at the bottom of the Enjuku page is of me installing the radiator and fans into my '95. I've had no problems with the radiator or fans since installing them last year. I will be picking up a set of the ISIS hoses in the next couple of weeks also. My old hoses finally have met their time.

Awesome! So how did you wire the fans? Into the ignition?

[Promise Land]

The previous owner of my car had one electric fan and he ran the trigger off the wiper motor harness. It has a wire that has power turned on with the ignition. The constant power is inside the distribution box in the engine bay. That is running one of the fans. I haven't wired the second fan yet, but it will be triggered off a switch from the inside center console so I can control it when I would need it on only.

[webgeek]

The previous owner of my car had one electric fan and he ran the trigger off the wiper motor harness. It has a wire that has power turned on with the ignition. The constant power is inside the distribution box in the engine bay. That is running one of the fans. I haven't wired the second fan yet, but it will be triggered off a switch from the inside center console so I can control it when I would need it on only.

Only run 2 when A/C is needed? I was reading about this but I'm assuming people are running with both efans running constantly. Is this not a good idea?

[future]

Clutch fan > electric

[webgeek]

Clutch fan > electric

From my understanding, this is strictly based on opinion.

[future]

Run one then the other, tell me which one runs cooler

This topic has been covered. Close this thread and google it before somebody comes in here and rips you a virtual new one

[webgeek]

Run one then the other, tell me which one runs cooler

This topic has been covered. Close this thread and google it before somebody comes in here and rips you a virtual new one

Actually the original topic was referencing radiators..the efans was additional

So don't be trolling :Owned:

And if people in Arizona and Florida, where I live, run efans with no issues then I'm going to try it.

[future]

Why? What benifit are you getting? Or is it just cause everybody else does so your going to? Now your going to have wires, fuses, and relays running around waiting to fail you when you can just have your shroud and clutch fan and don't bave to worry about stuff failing

[future]

Oh and you 26 asking this? Smfh

How does it feel getting owned now? Haha

[webgeek]

Why? What benifit are you getting? Or is it just cause everybody else does so your going to? Now your going to have wires, fuses, and relays running around waiting to fail you when you can just have your shroud and clutch fan and don't bave to worry about stuff failing

Why are you getting worked up over a question? I plan on dropping an ls1 into my 240sx.

Oh and you 26 asking this? Smfh

How does it feel getting owned now? Haha

:gives: What does age have to do with anything? My speciality is computer based, not car based, that is why forums are made for, to ask questions or am I mistaken?

[future]

Ls1.... Now it makes sense. Im forced to do the same. But for now you have a ka. No point in the fan. Just leave it stock. Save money. I'm undergoing my ls swap. Have your number you think your going to spend. And times it by two and some. Then the swap will get done

Good luck.

[webgeek]

Ls1.... Now it makes sense. Im forced to do the same. But for now you have a ka. No point in the fan. Just leave it stock. Save money. I'm undergoing my ls swap. Have your number you think your going to spend. And times it by two and some. Then the swap will get done

Good luck.

My radiator is leaking, hoses need replacing, and clutch fan is falling off. That is why I originally asked the radiator question because the isis comes with everything.

Enjuku will be doing my ls1 swap...but I need these minor issues fixed so I can at least drive my s14

[slydin240sx]

From my understanding, this is strictly based on opinion.

It is!!

Run one then the other, tell me which one runs cooler



With a properly bled and maintained cooling system, either with e-fans or the clutch fan the temps will be in roughly the same area. Depending on weather conditions and how you drive.

Why? What benifit are you getting? Or is it just cause everybody else does so your going to? Now your going to have wires, fuses, and relays running around waiting to fail you when you can just have your shroud and clutch fan and don't bave to worry about stuff failing

Who cares why he want's to run whatever fan, it's all personal preference. Oh and clutch fans CAN fail too!

Oh and you 26 asking this? Smfh

How does it feel getting owned now? Haha

You didn't own anyone you twirp! Try and stay on topic next time you want to troll kid.

[slydin240sx]

My radiator is leaking, hoses need replacing, and clutch fan is falling off. That is why I originally asked the radiator question because the isis comes with everything.

Enjuku will be doing my ls1 swap...but I need these minor issues fixed so I can at least drive my s14

Get the Isis setup! It's probably the best bang for your buck deal. You shouldn't have any issues with it other than your fans failing at a way later date. It's not rocket science making a radiator or some hoses. If you do get the setup I would get some sort of thermostat controller to control the fans coming on and off. Otherwise they will burn up a lot sooner if they stay on the whole time the car is on.

[webgeek]

Get the Isis setup! It's probably the best bang for your buck deal. You shouldn't have any issues with it other than your fans failing at a way later date. It's not rocket science making a radiator or some hoses. If you do get the setup I would get some sort of thermostat controller to control the fans coming on and off. Otherwise they will burn up a lot sooner if they stay on the whole time the car is on.

Awesome! Any recommendations on a brand of a thermostat controller? I found one on frsport.com but it has been discontinued

[webgeek]

Seems like this would be perfect to control the fans
Buy Imperial Adjustable Thermostatic Fan Control 226204 at Advance Auto Parts (http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_Adjustable-Thermostatic-Fan-Control-Imperial_3670006-P_N6003C_P%7CGRP2061A_____)

[slydin240sx]

Awesome! Any recommendations on a brand of a thermostat controller? I found one on frsport.com but it has been discontinued

Yeah they came out with a newer model IIRC! It should be on frsport as well.

Seems like this would be perfect to control the fans
Buy Imperial Adjustable Thermostatic Fan Control 226204 at Advance Auto Parts (http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_Adjustable-Thermostatic-Fan-Control-Imperial_3670006-P_N6003C_P%7CGRP2061A_____)

That would work perfectly fine and it's a helluva lot cheaper than the DIF controllers on frsport.

I still need to invest in a thermostat controller for my dual e fan setup. When I bought my s14 it had one single e fan on it, but a year later it burnt up after being wired to come on with the car and only go off when the car was turned off. I still have my new fans wired that way but I plan to change that soon.

[webgeek]

Yeah they came out with a newer model IIRC! It should be on frsport as well.



That would work perfectly fine and it's a helluva lot cheaper than the DIF controllers on frsport.

I still need to invest in a thermostat controller for my dual e fan setup. When I bought my s14 it had one single e fan on it, but a year later it burnt up after being wired to come on with the car and only go off when the car was turned off. I still have my new fans wired that way but I plan to change that soon.

OK thanks for the input. I'm on the hunt for that IIRC thermostat controller then.

[AdamR]

Why? What benifit are you getting? Or is it just cause everybody else does so your going to? Now your going to have wires, fuses, and relays running around waiting to fail you when you can just have your shroud and clutch fan and don't bave to worry about stuff failing

Maybe the way you do things. I have multiple redundancies in my electrical system so I wont ever be stuck.

[waxball88]

Why? What benifit are you getting? Or is it just cause everybody else does so your going to? Now your going to have wires, fuses, and relays running around waiting to fail you when you can just have your shroud and clutch fan and don't bave to worry about stuff failing
Your 20+ year old plastic clutch fan is a time bomb. Ever had a clutch fan take a shit? I have. Take a look at your fan, i bet it has nice little cracks in between every blade. No big deal now, but those just get bigger and bigger.
I used to run the clutch, yes it is the optimum cooling set-up. But i own a boosted KA, i'm always fucking with shit. The clutch fan and shroud are a pain in the ass when doing many things on your car.
Relays failing? All my relays are still oem and they outlasted the clutch fan?

Ever drop a VC bolt or similar while having a clutch fan? Maybe if you're a 7 year old starving child from Sudan reaching down past the clutch is cake, but if not, that bitch is annoying as fuck.
I have e-fans now and the headache they prevent is much greater than the initial headache they can produce to install (which isn't hard) As long as you get some decent fans.

[webgeek]

Yeah they came out with a newer model IIRC! It should be on frsport as well.



That would work perfectly fine and it's a helluva lot cheaper than the DIF controllers on frsport.

I still need to invest in a thermostat controller for my dual e fan setup. When I bought my s14 it had one single e fan on it, but a year later it burnt up after being wired to come on with the car and only go off when the car was turned off. I still have my new fans wired that way but I plan to change that soon.

FYI

I just finished installing this today and works. At first I was like the fans aren't working WTF?!?!?! Took a drive and then opened to hood to find the fans spinning.

I wired the yellow wire, the ignition wire, right into the radio fuse and works like a charm. Also installing the isis radiator was a breeze!!! Removing the clutch fan wasn't but we got it done!!!!

Tomorrow is making the wires look pretty!!!! :wackit:

[webgeek]

The video at the bottom of the Enjuku page is of me installing the radiator and fans into my '95. I've had no problems with the radiator or fans since installing them last year. I will be picking up a set of the ISIS hoses in the next couple of weeks also. My old hoses finally have met their time.

BTW I want to thank you for your videos. The radiator install and changing the led lights on the ac unit. Next will be changing the lights on the cluster.

[slydin240sx]

FYI

I just finished installing this today and works. At first I was like the fans aren't working WTF?!?!?! Took a drive and then opened to hood to find the fans spinning.

I wired the yellow wire, the ignition wire, right into the radio fuse and works like a charm. Also installing the isis radiator was a breeze!!! Removing the clutch fan wasn't but we got it done!!!!

Tomorrow is making the wires look pretty!!!! :wackit:

So you went with what controller? The dif one or the cheaper auto parts store one? Any pics of the setup?

[webgeek]

So you went with what controller? The dif one or the cheaper auto parts store one? Any pics of the setup?

Went with the cheap advance auto parts setup. Couldn't find a DIF controller any where. No pics just yet since I was testing and the fans did not turn on so I took a leap of faith and drove the car back to my house. 10+/- min drive back to see if the fans would turn on. Got home and the fans were spinning. When the engine cooled down, they turned off. The advance auto parts setup has a thermostat type plug that you install close to the upper radiator hose then connected the only ignition based item I know to their yellow cable, the radio.

I'll post pics up tomorrow.

[slydin240sx]

Interested to see pics.

[codyace]

Run one then the other, tell me which one runs cooler

This topic has been covered. Close this thread and google it before somebody comes in here and rips you a virtual new one

I think the better response would be to 'show us' how your setup works better.

Clutch fans are bulky, loud, and in the way. That alone was enough to make me switch. With 30 some odd track days under my belt, I can assure you that I've never EVER had an overheating issue with Altima fans.

Sure a clutch fan works fine...it's almost failsafe...but I can't stand them being in the way.

[Promise Land]

BTW I want to thank you for your videos. The radiator install and changing the led lights on the ac unit. Next will be changing the lights on the cluster.

I just put a video of my thermostatic switch install up last week. It shows the basic wiring a little. You're welcome for the videos. It's my way to give back to the community a bit.

[slydin240sx]

I just put a video of my thermostatic switch install up last week. It shows the basic wiring a little. You're welcome for the videos. It's my way to give back to the community a bit.

Link to video?

[webgeek]

I just put a video of my thermostatic switch install up last week. It shows the basic wiring a little. You're welcome for the videos. It's my way to give back to the community a bit.

Where is the video located? Just looked at your blog and didn't see any new videos there....

Sorry about the bs flag lol typing on my iPhone and must have clicked on it by accident

[Promise Land]

I haven't linked it to my blog yet. CanaanManley - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/CanaanManley) is the channel page.

[webgeek]

Interested to see pics.

As requested....I didn't do a step by step but wiring up fans is self explanatory. Wiring up the fan controller was as simple as following the instructions that came with the unit.

Testing (wired the ignition portion of the unit by inserting the cable into on end of the radio fuse, grounds to ground, and orange and blue from the unit going to the yellow cables for the fans) Was going to run red wires for the fans but decided it is easier to spot when a car has noting but red and black wires in most places

The actual unit itself, is zip tied to the negative cable for the battery. I wanted to mount the unit off a bolt that is on the chassis but the thermostat sensor cable, that goes into the radiator near the upper radiator hose, is too short. So for now it is located there.

http://i.imgur.com/bfjhh.jpg

I hid all the excess cable in the fuse box after zip tying each individual cable. Here you can see a thin yellow wire, it is the ignition wire for the fan controller unit, I have inserted into one side of the audio 15A fuse.

http://i.imgur.com/ftEdO.jpg

Clean with excess cable just in case I need to move the fan controller unit

http://i.imgur.com/xrDL7.jpg

So far, I can't complain about the fan controller I picked up from Advance Auto Parts. The fan controller turns on the fans and keeps them running even when the car is turned off to cool off the engine. Once the thermostat of the unit determines the engine is cooled off, it turns off the fans. w00t!

[Promise Land]

How did you protect your wiring coming between the fan assembly (the aluminum edge) and the radiator? Mine is routed the same place as yours (based on the picture). I think the only difference between mine and yours is the wiring routing inside the fuse box. You are going up over the edge and I went through the bottom opening (engine side).

I have my 12+V power sourced to a keyed power source rather than the always haveing power like yours (why it runs with the key off). Looks like you did a good job on the assembly of everything.

[webgeek]

How did you protect your wiring coming between the fan assembly (the aluminum edge) and the radiator? Mine is routed the same place as yours (based on the picture). I think the only difference between mine and yours is the wiring routing inside the fuse box. You are going up over the edge and I went through the bottom opening (engine side).

I have my 12+V power sourced to a keyed power source rather than the always haveing power like yours (why it runs with the key off). Looks like you did a good job on the assembly of everything.

I actually routed the cable from one fan to another and zip tied it to the actual fan shroud openings. Now that I think of it, I don't know why the fans run with the key off. Maybe the fan controller is that smart?!?!?!?

[Promise Land]

My guess is that your yellow wire to the radio has constant power, not switched?

Where is your brown wire from the switch run through? I see it zip-tied on your picture. Curious where your switch is at on your radiator fins and how you are routing wire to/from it.

[webgeek]

My guess is that your yellow wire to the radio has constant power, not switched?

Where is your brown wire from the switch run through? I see it zip-tied on your picture. Curious where your switch is at on your radiator fins and how you are routing wire to/from it.

The yellow wire to the radio is switched, I believe, since the fans are not constantly running. They run when the car is turned off if the engine needs to be cooled.

The brown wire? I think you mean the orange wire, yes it looks brown in the pic, but that is the positive/controls a fan and the blue wire is the positive/controls the other fan.

The radiator fans are controlled via the fan controller. Just routed the cable down to the right then up avoiding the fans. The plastic piece, what holds the fans, has some holes which aren't occupied and look like a screw could fit in there.