the perfect coilovers?

[theericsmith]

Recently I just purchased a 96 s14, my first 240. I want to begin modding it and I decided suspension would come first. Now I'm not one of these ballers that you see in the build section so I can't really grab stance coils without a second thought.
So I guess my debate so far has been between brands like D2, Megan, Function & Form, etc.

I'm looking to spend a maximum of $900ish, shipping included.
So what I'm asking is, what is the nicest coilover set I can get with that kind of money? I'm down to buy new or used and want something adjustable and something that will last.

[Darren]

Save and buy Stance, or similar quality coilover, you won't regret it

[Killa_D]

i love my cusco zero 2r coilovers best coilovers by far..

[slider2828]

Search, there are a lot of reviews.....

Power by Max with Swift springs....

You want the best, then you can either build it yourself with Ground Control stuff and custom housings

or by Zeal Functions....

[jamescarter]

Recently I just purchased a 96 s14, my first 240. I want to begin modding it and I decided suspension would come first. Now I'm not one of these ballers that you see in the build section so I can't really grab stance coils without a second thought.
So I guess my debate so far has been between brands like D2, Megan, Function & Form, etc.

I'm looking to spend a maximum of $900ish, shipping included.
So what I'm asking is, what is the nicest coilover set I can get with that kind of money? I'm down to buy new or used and want something adjustable and something that will last.

^ what do you intend to do with the car?

[zooopreme]

Perfect set of coilovers for a maximum of $900 shipping included? yeah...good luck with that. Cheapass.

[The Dude]

If you only have $900 to spend on coilovers then don't even bother. I'd rather give someone $900 and have them kick me in the balls than have shitty coilovers again.

[240zach]

^ ill gladly kick you in the balls for 900 bucks for being a dick. getting nice coilovers for 900 bucks is super possible. just gotta look around. and i know theres dumbasses who crash their car thinking they're ken block or some gay shit and boom there you go slightly used coilovers for cheap and theyre name brand.

[redmann813]

what bout bc's those are like 1000 shipped

[theericsmith]

^ what do you intend to do with the car?

Mostly a daily. Hoping to track it every once in a while but the coils I want won't have to put up with being beat to shit every day.

[theericsmith]

If you only have $900 to spend on coilovers then don't even bother. I'd rather give someone $900 and have them kick me in the balls than have shitty coilovers again.

well like I said I'm not one of those ballers who have all the time and money and open space in their garage. I work almost every day and try to do the best with what I've got.

[xoxide]

Save up $200 more and buy a set of fortune autos. You can thank us later.

[theericsmith]

Perfect set of coilovers for a maximum of $900 shipping included? yeah...good luck with that. Cheapass.

I'm not trying to be cheap, it just takes me a while to save up $900. I'm not looking for the perfect coils in your eyes. I'm looking for the best coils I can afford.

[theericsmith]

Save up $200 more and buy a set of fortune autos. You can thank us later.

I've been hearing a decent amount about those. You think the extra money is worth it compared to running megans, d2, or function and form type 2?

[scottie]

I saw the thread title and was excited. Starting reading responses and well...

Perfect Coilover and $1000 sets is a complete oxymoron. You might was well discuss Perfect Whores without a STD. If you want PERFECT, call AST, KW or JRZ, give them specifics on exactly what you want and what your vehicle will be used for. They will make you a perfect set for north of $3000.

Otherwise the rest can be considered good.

[theericsmith]

I saw the thread title and was excited. Starting reading responses and well...

Perfect Coilover and $1000 sets is a complete oxymoron. You might was well discuss Perfect Whores without a STD. If you want PERFECT, call AST, KW or JRZ, give them specifics on exactly what you want and what your vehicle will be used for. They will make you a perfect set for north of $3000.

Otherwise the rest can be considered good.

I guess the thread title might be misleading to some but I'm not looking for the flat out best coils on the market. I'm looking for the perfect match for me as a buyer. A buyer with the bottom of his pocket in clear view.

[jamescarter]

Mostly a daily. Hoping to track it every once in a while but the coils I want won't have to put up with being beat to shit every day.

^Maybe save up for a couple more weeks and then look at Fortune auto, HSD and Stance of course. Cry once!

[TougeSR20Kid]

^ ill gladly kick you in the balls for 900 bucks for being a dick.

Lol.... This thread again :picardfp: OP just save up a few more bucks and get PBMs they're like 900 something and pretty good, or if ur patient keep ur eyes fixed on the marketplace as someone is most likely gonna be selling a set of used good coils. DO NOT BUY CHEAP ASS COILS, Megan's are crap don't know anything bout the other two brands. But when u cheap out on stuff like that u will end up spending more in the long run

[xoxide]

Yes it is absolutly worth the extra 200. Fortunes cant be compared to megan or d2 etc.... they suck. Fortunes are a quality piece . Saving up a little more opens up much better options like stance pbm dmax fortune and a few others

[theericsmith]

^Maybe save up for a couple more weeks and then look at Fortune auto, HSD and Stance of course. Cry once!

Hahaha the stance gr+ pro's are definitely tear worthy.
Anyone have a good link to order PBMs? Most searches I've done have some pretty sketchy websites.

[xoxide]

Straight from pbm themselves.

[Turbo Nismo]

I have Function & Form F2 and I like them.

[theericsmith]

Lol.... This thread again :picardfp: OP just save up a few more bucks and get PBMs they're like 900 something and pretty good, or if ur patient keep ur eyes fixed on the marketplace as someone is most likely gonna be selling a set of used good coils. DO NOT BUY CHEAP ASS COILS, Megan's are crap don't know anything bout the other two brands. But when u cheap out on stuff like that u will end up spending more in the long run

Thanks, I've heard great things about PBM but haven't seen many people actually using them. They seem to care about their quality quite a bit though and I can appreciate that.

And directed to everyone else: Sorry if a 240 without top of the line everything makes you cringe. Believe me, if I had the time and money I'd grab the nicest things I could. I didn't create this thread to be flamed for not being able to afford the best coils. I made it so I could get some good input about the best coilovers that I could afford. So thanks to everyone for the latter.

[KevinEdgar]

Honestly, my coupe has ebay coils that get the job done(only cost $440 shipped). At my job last year I was only making $200 every 2 weeks so I was building my car on an extremely low budget. I still get down, they're just not as stiff. But now that I'm in the military I can magically afford PBMs which I'll be buying for myself as a birthday present next month.

[KevinEdgar]

They also don't go as low and the collars are obviously shitty, but fuck it.
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5113/7081985667_50fbdaaf0f.jpg
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NDgwWDY0MA==/$(KGrHqV,!n0E-v2loRWhBPs111lvgg~~60_58.JPG

[Piggy]

Megans are okay for a track only car and PBM's are all around awsome, from personal xp.

[Krewlkid]

I paid 845 to my door for tanabe sustec pros, 8kg 6kg and I love them for DD

[kikcaffine]

Thanks, I've heard great things about PBM but haven't seen many people actually using them. They seem to care about their quality quite a bit though and I can appreciate that.

And directed to everyone else: Sorry if a 240 without top of the line everything makes you cringe. Believe me, if I had the time and money I'd grab the nicest things I could. I didn't create this thread to be flamed for not being able to afford the best coils. I made it so I could get some good input about the best coilovers that I could afford. So thanks to everyone for the latter.

I've learned on this website its a bunch of broke kids that talk out of their asses and try to act "cool" and "hard" on the internet. Just take most of what people say with a grain of salt on here.

[dreaMervaj]

Everyone says that Megan sucks. Lol. I rode on my Megans for 6 years with no problem.

Good luck on your search. :)

[zooopreme]

Honestly, my coupe has ebay coils that get the job done(only cost $440 shipped). At my job last year I was only making $200 every 2 weeks so I was building my car on an extremely low budget. I still get down, they're just not as stiff. But now that I'm in the military I can magically afford PBMs which I'll be buying for myself as a birthday present next month.

They also don't go as low and the collars are obviously shitty, but fuck it.


OP, if you're like this guy, the perfect coilovers for you are ebay coilovers. Shitty valving, shitty quality, purely for mediocre aesthetic.

/thread; under 900 coilovers are a quick (not very good) fix which a bunch of people in my generation like to take advantage of.

Do more research (instead of asking for a spoonfeeding), do it right the first time, and be pleased about your investment in the LONG run.

[KevinEdgar]

OP, if you're like this guy, the perfect coilovers for you are ebay coilovers. Shitty valving, shitty quality, purely for mediocre aesthetic.


Thanks man. I was just helping out a fellow member who doesn't have a lot of money. Mediocre aesthetic? I didn't buy these coilovers for looks, I got them so I wouldn't be swaying like a boat while sliding.

I wish we could all be friends...

[PeaceOnesxWai]

for those recommending PBMs for daily... u people must like getting ride in the ass. But like everyone said.. save up a little more for stance and youll be glad you spent that little more. Make some friends with 240s and get a ride along to see what some coilovers feel like. If your looking to save some money and willing to try out a new brand, this local brand i know is well in your price range and is exactly perfect for street, pm me.

[zooopreme]

Mediocre aesthetic? I didn't buy these coilovers for looks, I got them so I wouldn't be swaying like a boat while sliding.

I wish we could all be friends...

Which explains why you want PBM's...from a "performance" aspect, you want entry level budget coilovers which so happen allow plenty of height adjust-ability to execute the slammed/uber functional look.


for those recommending PBMs for daily... u people must like getting ride in the ass.

For the millionth time, the new PBM pro's are no where near their previous gen coilovers.

Seems as though the people who have never had the previous gen coilovers speak so lowly of PBM when in fact, they have no idea that they have a new coilover as a revision to their "stiff to the ass" coilover.

[Piggy]

For the millionth time, the new PBM pro's are no where near their previous gen coilovers.

Seems as though the people who have never had the previous gen coilovers speak so lowly of PBM when in fact, they have no idea that they have a new coilover as a revision to their "stiff to the ass" coilover.

I was... going to say that exactly.

[pacotaco345]

PBM's aren't even that bad.. I have the gen 2s? or 3s.. The last gen before they made them all copper and cool looking.. But I daily the car with the front two clicks from full soft and the rear 5 clicks from full soft, the only time that they are annoying is low speed bump (< 30 mph). Other than that they're really not that bad.

[Dany]

Get function and form type2 and let me know how they ride :) I heard their pretty good for being $700-800 bux

[matts13vert]

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41TM45XVPRL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

[Kevin920415]

ground control sleeves with koni yellow. theres your answer for $900! :]

megan function godspeed etc.. they are all made in china i believe.

PBM is just too rough for daily in my opinion.

save couple hundred bucks more and get fortune auto.

[2.5T_/<ouki]

I picked up a set of 200 mile Fortune Auto 500 series coilovers for $900. That's about $200+ shipping I saved and the spring rate is superb, so comfy for daily driver. Do a search around the forums for some, it's usually what I do. I do agree however, that you shouldn't cheap out on coilovers; bad coilovers on an a 240 is a shitty drive lol, it's torture! Also, fortune-Auto is here in the US which makes it easy if you ever needed something.

[J40sx]

I'd just save up a little more and buy stance or powered by max coilovers since they are only couple hundred more, around $1000-1200, depending on which version you get. Then again if you want to go with cheaper ones, its cool, just depends on your budget and what you see is worth your money.

[RurouniMidnight]

Bc or fourtune auto both like 1000 shipped.

[LockOn!]

OH LOOK. THIS THREAD AGAIN.

pbm, stance, forture. You can get replacement parts for all of them.

If you can save $700 for trash, I'm sure you can save another $300 for something decent that you can actually repair when they blow.

For all those saying PBM are harsh, I just received my Comps a couple weeks ago and I commute on them 2 clicks from full soft. They are no harsher than the Tein Super Drift, or Stance GR+ I had before.

[colombianbryan]

Just save! i mean if your budget is 900 than why can't you wait and save up another 100 or 2 for some great daily quality coilovers? It's not about being baller, just patience which is what a lot of guys here are. Cheap coilovers aren't fun! I bought megans and were good at first but don't last and i don't even track or drift just daily. Just wait and save the unnecessary worries!

[Dany]

Just save! i mean if your budget is 900 than why can't you wait and save up another 100 or 2 for some great daily quality coilovers? It's not about being baller, just patience which is what a lot of guys here are. Cheap coilovers aren't fun! I bought megans and were good at first but don't last and i don't even track or drift just daily. Just wait and save the unnecessary worries!

Patience is key :bow: huh? lol

[Chl_drifter]

Check the fortune auto thread or buy used. Just save a little more

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[slowvia]

for those recommending PBMs for daily... u people must like getting ride in the ass.

Seriously. I don't understand why people think that PBM's are quality. I would rather rock lowering springs on stock struts than PBM coils.

[KOUKIboy]

Save up and get like 200 bucks more, don't cheap out on coils. Powered By Max are the best bang for your buck, get that ganster lowness, and good quality coils also...

[240zach]

PBMs are nice coil overs just that everyone here puts them on full stiff then complains about them. if you dampen them right they would be good for a dd. stance and zeal are all also good coils. I've heard good things about function&form as well. but when it comes down to it, high quality coils like that are still gina be about 2-300 dollars our of your spending range especially if you want them new. so my suggestion is that you should just save a little more and keep your eye out on the part outs. just my 2 cents

[lude4life13]

I would sell you my Greddy Type S coilovers for $900.



















If I were to ever sell them ;).

[Davidmic747]

keep your money.. look around till you find a good used set and a month later if you can't find any look in your wallet and you should have that extra $200 dollas saved. Then you go and buy those new good quality coils :)

[DJ-of-E]

I've just bought Fortune Auto Dreandnoughts for my S13.

You guys are lucky you get to have at least PBM for $1000. Totally worth it in my opinion in that price range over stance in similar price (Fortune 500 seemed more comfort oriented).

I remember I bought my JIC Magics in 2003...those were $2400 but still didn't blown once compared to the Teins everyone has back then.

[lude4life13]

I bought Fortune Auto Dreandnoughts for my S13, did I hit mega baller status?

Former SCP member?

[Kuma]

and i know theres dumbasses who crash their car thinking they're ken block or some gay shit and boom there you go slightly used coilovers for cheap and theyre name brand.

I don't think I'd trust coilovers that have been in a wreck... Not saying it hasnt worked for many others... I just dont have the best luck. I'd end up getting some shit so FUBAR they'd be non rebuildable.

it just takes me a while to save up $900

But if you're at $900, whats another $200?

Thats like saying you have $75 and you could buy a nokia for $50 or save another $25 and get a smartphone... You want to be able to watch porn or settle for playing snake?

[Tempo]

Which explains why you want PBM's...from a "performance" aspect, you want entry level budget coilovers which so happen allow plenty of height adjust-ability to execute the slammed/uber functional look.




For the millionth time, the new PBM pro's are no where near their previous gen coilovers.

Seems as though the people who have never had the previous gen coilovers speak so lowly of PBM when in fact, they have no idea that they have a new coilover as a revision to their "stiff to the ass" coilover.
+1
I was... going to say that exactly.
+1
PBM's aren't even that bad.. I have the gen 2s? or 3s.. The last gen before they made them all copper and cool looking.. But I daily the car with the front two clicks from full soft and the rear 5 clicks from full soft, the only time that they are annoying is low speed bump (< 30 mph). Other than that they're really not that bad.
+1
I'd just save up a little more and buy stance or powered by max coilovers since they are only couple hundred more, around $1000-1200, depending on which version you get. Then again if you want to go with cheaper ones, its cool, just depends on your budget and what you see is worth your money.
+1
OH LOOK. THIS THREAD AGAIN.

pbm, stance, forture. You can get replacement parts for all of them.

If you can save $700 for trash, I'm sure you can save another $300 for something decent that you can actually repair when they blow.

For all those saying PBM are harsh, I just received my Comps a couple weeks ago and I commute on them 2 clicks from full soft. They are no harsher than the Tein Super Drift, or Stance GR+ I had before.
+1
Save up and get like 200 bucks more, don't cheap out on coils. Powered By Max are the best bang for your buck, get that ganster lowness, and good quality coils also...
+1
PBMs are nice coil overs just that everyone here puts them on full stiff then complains about them. if you dampen them right they would be good for a dd. stance and zeal are all also good coils. I've heard good things about function&form as well. but when it comes down to it, high quality coils like that are still gina be about 2-300 dollars our of your spending range especially if you want them new. so my suggestion is that you should just save a little more and keep your eye out on the part outs. just my 2 cents
+1

gen 3 pro coilovers :coold:

also very narrow minded how everyone bases PBM coilovers off a review thread of the competition coils and put that review on the pro coils , people who are complaining probably havent even the slightest idea how competition coilovers feel.

everyone on zilvia is a coilover inspector and reviewer they have tried everything on this forum , and it is a fact that a coilover is either shit or godly.
Seriously. I don't understand why people think that PBM's are quality. I would rather rock lowering springs on stock struts than PBM coils.
^^prime example
:picardfp:

also OP if you aren't in a rush just save up for the pro PBM coilovers or any other quality coilovers , youd be surprised how much more choices you'll have in coilovers with just a couple hundred more dollars :snoop:
rather you wait 1-2month(s) for more money for a better setup, instead of waste $900 on shit coilovers that you'll regret, buy what you really want now so you dont have to spend more money later replacing shit parts. my :2c:

[thefro526]

If you've only got $900 to spend, you could do one of two things:

1) Save an extra $300 and buy some decent coils. The $1200 coil range is full of quality options - Stance, PBM, Fortune Auto, etc.

2) Buy some used coilovers. I got the Kei Office's on my S13 for $700 used in good condition and they ride better than all of the BC, Megan, D2, equipped cars I've been in/driven. Got used Stance's on the S14 from the previous owner, he bought those used for like $800 and they're solid.

[DJ-of-E]

Former SCP member?

For the record, I never own a Prelude, but friends with Trung and Kyle. Unfortunately I stopped going to the forum because too many spam/hacks/network downs. I know you guys are up...but too many car groups and the Z group takes precedence.

[silvia_s14]

Fortune Auto's 510's W/ swift springs = Sweet ride!!! Daily everyday to work and weekend drifting

[Beta]

I was in the same situation man...i was going for cheapo's until i did my research...i don't know if the term "you get what you pay for" is correct or not, but I would go for reliability especially if you're already spending $900....do your research dude...

[bussitcustoms]

I have D2's on my Subaru daily and love them. 8/6k spring rates, not super low but tucking tire, and I keep the dampening all the way soft. Perfect for the street. I'm looking for coilovers for my s14, and am between D2 and BC. Realistically the deciding factor will be which one I can get a better deal on. BC's can be had for around $950 new, and they're definitely not junk.

[FU12]

PBM's aren't even that bad.. I have the gen 2s? or 3s.. The last gen before they made them all copper and cool looking.. But I daily the car with the front two clicks from full soft and the rear 5 clicks from full soft, the only time that they are annoying is low speed bump (< 30 mph). Other than that they're really not that bad.

Exactly, most people who call them stiff, are speaking from hear say. PBMs are the first coil overs i've EVER had. I can handle them, they are not as stiff as people say. Of course if you ride them 12/12 clicks its gets annoying after a few blocks, but if you use a moderate setting on the street, they're fine. I have the current Gen 2012 comps btw.

[sicknamehere]

so for everyone that says you can't get good coils for less than $900, you're idiots. my friend just got a set of barely used stance gr+'s for $700. the guy bought them new about a year ago, put them on his car and drove it around for about a month. then went to school and left the car parked in a garage. he needed money so he sold them. just because something is expensive new, doesn't mean you can't get a good deal on them used. people just can't wait to flame someone for asking a simple question

[PoorMans180SX]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Feal 411 coilovers. Odi is a cool guy and knows how to properly valve coilovers.

Feal Suspension, Inc. - Feal 441 Coilover kit (Nissan) (http://rallyracingsuspension.com/page20.html)

Other than that, Fortune or PSM pro coils. I don't think Stance are anything special.

Don't cheap out. Why does everyone need everything so fast? Wait, have some patience, and you'll realize how much better off you are after you have a nice car with nice parts.

[zooopreme]

so for everyone that says you can't get good coils for less than $900, you're idiots. my friend just got a set of barely used stance gr+'s for $700. the guy bought them new about a year ago, put them on his car and drove it around for about a month. then went to school and left the car parked in a garage. he needed money so he sold them.

Damnit, Florida. :facepalm:

Yeah, we're idiots for wanting to buy new with warranties/free rebuilds. I could very easily clean up a set of coilovers, brand it "barely used/ scratches from installation wear", and sell it as such.

Stance coils? Lol.

Oh & do you want a cookie for your friend scoring on "barely used" coilovers?

[The Dude]

Bad news, bro. Stance is shit as well.

[DJ-of-E]

Bad news, bro. Stance is shit as well.

Depends on what you get, but for the price range....yah they are crap.

Can we /close thread already?

[240zach]

Can we /close thread already?

+1 on that post

[FU12]

These threads are usually closed by now. Guess the mods are enjoying their friday.

[SlideOrDie831]

fortune auto.........end of story. :sadwavey:

[RedSiBaron]

majority of people on this forum just want to do whatever it takes to dump their car as low as it will go.

if you are looking for performance, you have to pay for it, if you dont care, any of the cheaper brands with a warranty will do. if you want quality and actually engineered performance, tein is probably your best bet, i regret not buying from them for my first street setup. Function Form has a really good warranty as well, but its the same chinese made coilover as anything youll find under 1400 short of tein or apexi.

other than that, you really need to just deal with your stock ride height car and wait until you save enough pennies for the good stuff like fortune if you want something quality.

or if you dont care about dumping your car on its frame, and care more about performance, all of these coilovers are junk in terms of dampening when compared to konis. add Ground Control sleeves and eibach springs, and then you have a big boy's suspension.

it wont be dorifto cool, but its a setup that has been proven time and time again on the track by scca national champions for its performance and reliability.

[DJ-of-E]

mor if you dont care about dumping your car on its frame, and care more about performance, all of these coilovers are junk in terms of dampening when compared to konis. add Ground Control sleeves and eibach springs, and then you have a big boy's suspension.

it wont be dorifto cool, but its a setup that has been proven time and time again on the track by scca national champions for its performance and reliability.

Quoted for truth. Koni/GC combination is definitely the best bang for your buck perfomrance. I worked with Motion Control suspension on other cars and they literally will change how your car feels and how one feels about suspension. However, they're freaken $6000 coilover system.

[PoorMans180SX]

majority of people on this forum just want to do whatever it takes to dump their car as low as it will go.

if you are looking for performance, you have to pay for it, if you dont care, any of the cheaper brands with a warranty will do. if you want quality and actually engineered performance, tein is probably your best bet, i regret not buying from them for my first street setup. Function Form has a really good warranty as well, but its the same chinese made coilover as anything youll find under 1400 short of tein or apexi.

other than that, you really need to just deal with your stock ride height car and wait until you save enough pennies for the good stuff like fortune if you want something quality.

or if you dont care about dumping your car on its frame, and care more about performance, all of these coilovers are junk in terms of dampening when compared to konis. add Ground Control sleeves and eibach springs, and then you have a big boy's suspension.

it wont be dorifto cool, but its a setup that has been proven time and time again on the track by scca national champions for its performance and reliability.

A couple problems with your post sir.

1. Teins are junk if they aren't custom valved. If you've ever driven a car with Super Drifts or Basics, you know what I'm talking about.

2. Apex'i is made by BC, who also makes BC Racing and Megan, to name a few. BC is based in Taiwan, not China.

I'll third the Koni/GC setup though :)

[shinobis13hb]

FEAL suspension. Best Coilover. 1350.

[travypoo]

i went with the fortune auto 510s with swift springs with 7 and 9 spring rates. they are amazing so far. car has never felt so good

[xoxide]

Stance arent crap coilovers... Theyre up there with Fortune and PBM. Stewart Leask trusts them enough to run them on his S13, so I think you can trust them to be good enough to run on your street cars.

Tein is over rated.... Ugly too.

[chriskilla2]

Stance is great for dd imo. can get it somewhat stiff if thats your thing.

[blessed.240]

Everyone says that Megan sucks. Lol. I rode on my Megans for 6 years with no problem.

Good luck on your search. :)

I've been riding on megan tracks for a while. good shit

[KevinEdgar]

http://slipperyseleste.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/20120520-224206.jpg?w=545
Can't wait till these come in, so I can give an honest opinion. I've driven 2 S14s with these coilovers and they were great. But they were friends cars so I didn't wanna slide them.

[FU12]

Good buy, I just wish CA didn't have such a shitty tax rate

[YA DIG]

lots of assholes in here... basically if you dont title it i want to buy coils that are shitty because they arnt name brand they wont be happy. Everybody must be super rich and buy top line shit and hard park like a BOSS. Good buy tho you'll like those alot :)

[FU12]

lots of assholes in here... basically if you dont title it i want to buy coils that are shitty because they arnt name brand they wont be happy. Everybody must be super rich and buy top line shit and hard park like a BOSS. If you call anything between 1-1.5k top of the line your kidding yourself. They're just telling him that for 900 you're not even getting budget coils. I bought PBMs. Thats being cheap compared to top of the line .

[zooopreme]

http://slipperyseleste.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/20120520-224206.jpg?w=545
Can't wait till these come in, so I can give an honest opinion. I've driven 2 S14s with these coilovers and they were great. But they were friends cars so I didn't wanna slide them.

You bought the comp coils. Your comparison to your shitty ebay stuff will be "These are hella stiffer than my old junk but the stiffness makes me think that these are giving me added performance benefits."

Pro's and Comp's are entirely different & feel different. The only way I can see you remedying this is by increasing the spring rate while revalving to something way softer. But at that point, you should have gone with Pro's instead of Comp's.

lots of assholes in here... basically if you dont title it i want to buy coils that are shitty because they arnt name brand they wont be happy. Everybody must be super rich and buy top line shit and hard park like a BOSS. Good buy tho you'll like those alot :)

This entire thread is full of entry level coilovers. And I'll never understand why people knock on "brand names". What is wrong with a company that is known with great prices and service to their products?

You get what you pay for, folks.

[slammed04tsx]

guy posted up today some stance gr+ for 800 shipped hit him up
http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/454375-stance-gr-coilovers.html\
not sure what the difference in the s13 2 s14 just seen them today hope it was helpful

[SlideOrDie831]

it's alright because they don't drive hard enough to tell the difference.

[240zach]

guy posted up today some stance gr+ for 800 shipped hit him up
http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/454375-stance-gr-coilovers.html\
not sure what the difference in the s13 2 s14 just seen them today hope it was helpful


s14 rears are a shitload longer, and the perch bolt holes on s14 fronts is 2mm bigger. only differences. lol and a lot of the damper adjustments on 14s is on the bottom unlike the 13s here its at the top

[RedSiBaron]

A couple problems with your post sir.

1. Teins are junk if they aren't custom valved. If you've ever driven a car with Super Drifts or Basics, you know what I'm talking about.

2. Apex'i is made by BC, who also makes BC Racing and Megan, to name a few. BC is based in Taiwan, not China.

I'll third the Koni/GC setup though :)

Fair enough, my experience with tein is custom valved ones, did not know that about the basics.

As for apexi, i thought they were still japanese based production, oops.

For my next coils im trying to decide on going koni/gc or fortune...

[YA DIG]

If you call anything between 1-1.5k top of the line your kidding yourself. They're just telling him that for 900 you're not even getting budget coils. I bought PBMs. Thats being cheap compared to top of the line .

Ohhh i think i understand now so all the big name brand are just budget stuff ok ok thats why everybody says everything is shit because their all budget items not top line which means everything is shit unless they're the absolute best. its clear now.

[DenkiMan!]

2) Buy some used coilovers. I got the Kei Office's on my S13 for $700 used in good condition and they ride better than all of the BC, Megan, D2, equipped cars I've been in/driven. Got used Stance's on the S14 from the previous owner, he bought those used for like $800 and they're solid.

this right here, thats what i did i got lucky enough to get a set of used kei office type gu's in incredible condition for my s14 for 950 shipped and they ride better than most, my friend who has cusco zero 2r's even likes them better.

i dont know why people are saying its beyond the realm of human capability and understanding to acquire a decent coilover setup for 900. i passed on deals for almost 2 years before i decided on buying these and im glad i did. not going to say theyre perfect because no suspension setup is for this price range, but they are just damn good for the streets and for going sideways

[PoorMans180SX]

Fair enough, my experience with tein is custom valved ones, did not know that about the basics.

As for apexi, i thought they were still japanese based production, oops.

For my next coils im trying to decide on going koni/gc or fortune...

You should look at FEAL.

[FU12]

Ohhh i think i understand now so all the big name brand are just budget stuff ok ok thats why everybody says everything is shit because their all budget items not top line which means everything is shit unless they're the absolute best. its clear now.
Ok...go buy some godspeeds, come back and tell of how good they are.


Pro's and Comp's are entirely different & feel different. The only way I can see you remedying this is by increasing the spring rate while revalving to something way softer. But at that point, you should have gone with Pro's instead of Comp's.
Comps don't feel bad although Im sure they're a hell of a lot stiffer than pros though. Are the pro's a still stiff compared to other coils?

[RedSiBaron]

You should look at FEAL.

I definitely will, why do you suggest them?

[future]

Fortune auto with swift springs are 1375 shipped

[KevinEdgar]

Good buy, I just wish CA didn't have such a shitty tax rate

Thanks man, I know. Real steep.

You bought the comp coils. Your comparison to your shitty ebay stuff will be "These are hella stiffer than my old junk but the stiffness makes me think that these are giving me added performance benefits."

Pro's and Comp's are entirely different & feel different. The only way I can see you remedying this is by increasing the spring rate while revalving to something way softer. But at that point, you should have gone with Pro's instead of Comp's.



This entire thread is full of entry level coilovers. And I'll never understand why people knock on "brand names". What is wrong with a company that is known with great prices and service to their products?

You get what you pay for, folks.

Thanks man, I appreciate your kind words. I don't know why you're making me seem like I'm a fan boy. Should I consult with you before I buy parts for my car? You seem to be a master :bowdown:

[zooopreme]

Comps don't feel bad although Im sure they're a hell of a lot stiffer than pros though. Are the pro's a still stiff compared to other coils?

A friend of mine has them on his S13. And after driving them for a while, you can definitely tell that these are properly valved. I loved them but didn't want to wait until PBM stoked them up so I went with 500's with Swifts and they are only a tad bit better than what I noticed with PBM's.

Thanks man, I appreciate your kind words. I don't know why you're making me seem like I'm a fan boy. Should I consult with you before I buy parts for my car? You seem to be a master :bowdown:

No but you really ought to do more useful research before giving out whack info which a lot of people in our generation seem to lack.

[S-Nation S13]

there is no perfect coilover..its all about personal preference

[theericsmith]

Thats like saying you have $75 and you could buy a nokia for $50 or save another $25 and get a smartphone... You want to be able to watch porn or settle for playing snake?

i guess the concept is true, but you are comparing $900 to $75.

[theericsmith]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Feal 411 coilovers.
Don't cheap out. Why does everyone need everything so fast? Wait, have some patience, and you'll realize how much better off you are after you have a nice car with nice parts.

Thanks, I'll have to check them out.
And no one said anything about being in a rush.

[PoorMans180SX]

I definitely will, why do you suggest them?

I've talked with Odi (the owner) on the phone and he really knows what he's doing. He can re-valve almost all of the cheapo coilovers to perform a lot better, and runs his coils on his Formula D comp car, which looks really well composed on the track IMO.

They also take the time to ask how much your car weighs, how you like your suspension to feel, and your driving style.

I'll be ordering my coils soon.

Thanks, I'll have to check them out.
And no one said anything about being in a rush.

Sorry, that was more of a general statement not directed at anyone in particular.

[RedSiBaron]

I've talked with Odi (the owner) on the phone and he really knows what he's doing. He can re-valve almost all of the cheapo coilovers to perform a lot better, and runs his coils on his Formula D comp car, which looks really well composed on the track IMO.

They also take the time to ask how much your car weighs, how you like your suspension to feel, and your driving style.

I'll be ordering my coils soon.


Thats impressive, do you know where they are manufactured? I bought my cheapo coils when i wasnt planning on keeping the car long or building it, and now that i am not cheaping out on everything else, I really would like to figure out what I actually want to be running suspension wise, and I would very much like to buy something NOT manufactured in asia (minus japan, I support them, ha), and more preferably made in america.

[PoorMans180SX]

I'm not sure where their components come from, I'm sure you can call or e-mail and ask.

[SlideOrDie831]

there is no perfect coilover..its all about personal preference

this.

coils aren't meant to be slapped on and ran hard. theres something called preload and damping. they need to be tuned to work to your liking. just because a friends car feels like crap doesn't mean anything.

[blessedhellrider]

Bose active suspension - YouTube (http://youtu.be/eSi6J-QK1lw)

[theericsmith]

I've talked with Odi (the owner) on the phone and he really knows what he's doing. He can re-valve almost all of the cheapo coilovers to perform a lot better, and runs his coils on his Formula D comp car, which looks really well composed on the track IMO.

They also take the time to ask how much your car weighs, how you like your suspension to feel, and your driving style.

I'll be ordering my coils soon.


dang that is really legit. do you have a link or phone number or something?

[travypoo]

I had megan streets for about a month and they were brutal. ran megan tracks for 4 years and they were decent but really rough. this year i switch to the fortune auto 510s with swift springs and they are amazing. my car has never felt better

[xoxide]

dang that is really legit. do you have a link or phone number or something?
Let me google that for you (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Feal+Suspension)

[steve.c]

I'm looking to spend a maximum of $900ish, shipping included.

stick to forza 4, player...

[mau5trap]

DG-5 or Zeal Functions are pretty good coilovers

[mau5trap]

http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/481312-jic-magic-flt-tar-coilovers-s14-z32-calipers-pj-mu-pads-rotors-headlights-hood.html

this dood is selling a good set of coilovers for 7 bills.

[bataangpinoy]

perfect? no such thing.

[JVDSKYRINE]

My brother had gp sports coilovers on his 180sx when he got it in from Japan. They were by far the best coilovers I have ridden on including Megan crap, silk roads, teins, cusco, stance

Teins are by far the biggest piles of shit in my opinion worst ride all round. Bought them brand new for my skyline and was so disappointed I sold them 2 weeks after to buy silk roads

[shaggy0778]

I would suggest buying used quality coilovers at that price. I got my tein superdrifts for $800.

If you MUST have brand new and absolutely cannot spend more than $900, Megans aren't too bad. I ran on them for about a year and never had any issues. They are super stiff. Nowhere near as good as my teins though

[travypoo]

I did Fortune Auto coils at the start of this year on my s13 vert. Did the 510's with swift springs (9k F-7k R) They are amazing!

[Bumpkin203]

I love my Fortune Autos, IMO the best coilover for the price.

[SuperSlydewayZ14]

not sure what your money situation is like but if youre working you should honestly save up even justtt another $200...My pbm were like $1050 shipped (maybe 1150?) and those were great.

i had hks hipermax III on my previous s14 and those were in my opinion the best ive had.

but like a lot are saying, its all preference man. some feel like they handle well but driving around town is a bitch and vice versa...

capitalist society man, you normally get what you pay for here as a base for your decision making.

[scumbag]

pbm for the win ...
or k-sport are pretty good and you can find some for 700 or kts for like 600
try looking into feal suspension

[wyteboiii]

Its been 7+ months from the OP. Im sure he got something by now. Hopefully found some used stance coils for 6-700

[h2v7]

thinking about fortunes as my next coils

[omgRWDgoodness!]

Teins are junk if they aren't custom valved. If you've ever driven a car with Super Drifts or Basics, you know what I'm talking about.

I'll third the Koni/GC setup though :)
I've daily driven on Tein Super Drifts for almost 2 years without ride quality/discomfort issues, so I have no idea what you're talking about. Tein makes some great suspension components and have been around much longer than some of these fly-by-night brands everyone else is recommending, but I guess that's what makes them so uncool since they're not the "hot new brand".

Then again, this is also coming from someone supporting a freakin' strut & spring combo :rolleyes:

I would suggest buying used quality coilovers at that price. I got my tein superdrifts for $800.
...Nowhere near as good as my teins though
+1, paid the same price for mine in great condition with low mileage and locally.


The only thing I'd ever replace my Teins with would be some ZEAL (not FEAL, kids) Functions, or something less common like HKS/aforementioned GP Sports.

[zooopreme]

This thread is still open?

Your opinion became void as soon as you said...

pbm for the win ...
or k-sport are pretty good and you can find some for 700 or kts for like 600
try looking into feal suspension

And what's all of this about Tein? Tein is overpriced for what they are. As for dampening characteristics, Super Drifts can be a little bit on the stiff side but they handle a lot better than Megans,ISIS. But for the price you'll be paying for them, you may as well get something better like PBM or Fortunes with Swifts or whatever everybody likes these days.

[fliprayzin240sx]

^^^The thing about Teins is that they are valve for smoother japanese roads. You use them on the states, specially the more aggressively valved Super Drifts, they are too bouncy for US roads. At the other end of it, the Tein Flex, the spring rates are super soft and I think are some of the better coilover as a daily.

Anyways, I just ordered some Fortune Auto 500s with 12/9k Swifts. We'll see how much better they are compared to my Topline Aragostas (which will be for sale in a couple of weeks).

[Kingbaby]

Seems folks are liking the fortune 500/510s

either between PBM or 510s

[killer240]

How low can zeal coils go? I don't want to be stupid low, but low enough.
Pics would be nice, preferably S13.

[Flicktitty]

there is no perfect coilover..its all about personal preference

Did it really take 4 pages for someone to say this?

I agree 110% It's all on what you do and how you drive, where you drive etc.

I ran megans for a few years they were ok, Just recently picked up HKS Hypermax coil's and LOVE them. so much better than the Megans, Fortune coils seem to be pretty nice too from everyone i've been on.

[Mofuhcka]

Save up for some PBMs. Great quality, plus theyre GOLD AND COPPER. Looks fucking baller

[BossHogg]

How low can zeal coils go? I don't want to be stupid low, but low enough.
Pics would be nice, preferably S13.

Zeal will take care of you. Better have AT LEAST 3k ready to throw.





Tein is a little overpriced to your average entry level coil because you are paying for name, that they have ESTABLISHED over many years. You are not buying "junk" so to speak. I bought tein flex way back in 2002/03. They are still on the road today.....just saying. But I will be upgrading soon. Zeal function T is what I'm leaning towards right now.

[The Dude]

The Tein HE's I had were definitely junk.

[zo0d]

Your mom on a pogo stick.

Idk about other coilovers, but I love my Cusco Zero 2's. Serve me well for DD duty. I've never experienced this excessive harshness or bounciness some of you speak of.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Your mom on a pogo stick.

Idk about other coilovers, but I love my Cusco Zero 2's. Serve me well for DD duty. I've never experienced this excessive harshness or bounciness some of you speak of.

But those are $2.5k suspension. I think Cusco is a more expensive version of Teins. You're paying more for the name than the product. I fucking hated my Comp-S and those are $1.5k suspensions. My damn Megan Racing coilovers functioned better than Comp-S.

[bataangpinoy]

feals are 1350 for s13.

did an event in car on apexi nv-1's, those were pretty nice.

[Vadim's13]

I have silkroads on my track car and I love them!!! But on my DD Megan tracks and do the work just fine!!

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using Tapatalk 2

[usdm180sx]

Loving my kei office xr's that i got bnib for $650. Dampening is like molases. Any road imperfections are damped so well the the car never comes unsettled. I can take bumps in the road with complete confidence. That must mean dg-5's are even more awesome

[PoorMans180SX]

I've daily driven on Tein Super Drifts for almost 2 years without ride quality/discomfort issues, so I have no idea what you're talking about. Tein makes some great suspension components and have been around much longer than some of these fly-by-night brands everyone else is recommending, but I guess that's what makes them so uncool since they're not the "hot new brand".

Then again, this is also coming from someone supporting a freakin' strut & spring combo :rolleyes:




Just saw this. You must not have Kidneys. My Megan Tracks rode better than Super Drifts, and no, my Super Drifts were not blown. I've owned Super Drifts, Stance, Megan Tracks, and Fortune Auto, and the Super Drifts were by far the worst riding coils, and they upset the chassis second easiest to the Megans, which just had ridiculously high spring rates. My Fortunes were great, but I sold that car a long time ago.

Next time, think a little before you post, you have no idea what someone has experience with.

Topline Aragostas (which will be for sale in a couple of weeks).

Dang, too bad these aren't for S13 or I'd definitely be interested!

[theericsmith]

How is this thread still alive

[mau5trap]

anyone here have any experience with apexi n1 coilovers???

[SlideOrDie831]

anyone here have any experience with apexi n1 coilovers???

what set? evx's come from the same factory as megan and what not.

[mau5trap]

so are they good or bad???

[zooopreme]

so are they good or bad???

You didn't specify the model in which you are asking about. And since you didn't specify, they/he/she assumed that you're talking about EVX's.

[Got Insulin?]

so are they good or bad???

You should also define "good" and "bad." Are you looking for superior ride quality? A certain price point? Do you care at all about how good the damper is?

[mau5trap]

my bad people, I didn't know there were more than one models of these coilovers. I'm specifically looking for the EXV's . How's the ride quality and damper on them? What other coilovers do they compare too?

[yzrider450f]

I got my Fortune Auto 500's for $750. Just save up and wait for the right deal.

[fliprayzin240sx]

my bad people, I didn't know there were more than one models of these coilovers. I'm specifically looking for the EXV's . How's the ride quality and damper on them? What other coilovers do they compare too?

Whats good for one person wont necessarily mean it'll be good for you. Your best option honestly is ride in somebody's car who got a certain coilover. If you like it, get that.

I'm taking a risk on Fortune Auto 500s just cuz I have not actually riden in one before but everybody keeps hyping them up. Hopefully, my kidney, lowerback and Virginia hwy wont hate custom 11/9 spring rates.

[DeleriousZ]

Your mom on a pogo stick.

Idk about other coilovers, but I love my Cusco Zero 2's. Serve me well for DD duty. I've never experienced this excessive harshness or bounciness some of you speak of.

Good luck to you for when they start to fail, especially if you're running pillow ball mounts. Zero 2's = non rebuildable, at all.

[coupesallday!]

don't mean to bump this, but I was looking at these koni's
KONI Sport Shock Absorber/Strut for 1997 NISSAN 240SX | AJUSA.com (http://www.ajusa.com/KONI-Sport-Shock-AbsorberStrut-c2dfev226fq64fb.html)
and was wondering if they would be good for daily driving or just get coilovers.

[gallo]

isis you cant go wrong for the price i have had them for a long time . . they kick ass for starters but im switching to pbm

[fliprayzin240sx]

don't mean to bump this, but I was looking at these koni's
KONI Sport Shock Absorber/Strut for 1997 NISSAN 240SX | AJUSA.com (http://www.ajusa.com/KONI-Sport-Shock-AbsorberStrut-c2dfev226fq64fb.html)
and was wondering if they would be good for daily driving or just get coilovers.

Shocks and springs setup will almost always be smoother than coilovers. Just be aware, those shocks are inserts so I hope you know how to stall them or taking them to a legit shop. You can also run tokicos, that are a full shock replacement vs inserts.

[DRIFTER-M]

isis you cant go wrong for the price i have had them for a long time . . they kick ass for starters but im switching to pbm

Not to mention they just came out with the ISIS Pro model, which though I am not usually big on "budget" parts, I really have to give them some due...

They look extremely well built. ESPECIALLY for the price.

[coupesallday!]

Shocks and springs setup will almost always be smoother than coilovers. Just be aware, those shocks are inserts so I hope you know how to stall them or taking them to a legit shop. You can also run tokicos, that are a full shock replacement vs inserts.

thanks flip, i was looking at the wrong ones. would these be a good setup then?
KYB Struts Shocks Sport lowering Springs Suspension Kit 1995 1998 Nissan 240sx | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/KYB-Struts-Shocks-Sport-Lowering-Springs-Suspension-Kit-1995-1998-Nissan-240SX-/190716290175?_trksid=p3284.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSI%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BUA%2 52BFICS%26otn%3D21%26pmod%3D150759157352%26ps%3D54 )

[ILoveJDM]

ive owned all of these.
kei office - too soft
tein ha - garbage - worst ive ever owned.
cusco zero 2 - garbage
zeal (lowend model) no low enough/too soft - really needed swift springs
apexi n1 - garbage
ksport (lowend) - garbage
stance gr +pro - A++, one rear lower bushing is torn after 20,xxx km of use.

[theericsmith]

stick to forza 4, player...

so you're telling me to go buy a video game i don't own and begin playing it because I had $900 for an aftermarket part that wasn't required? great advice.

[iRideFBMSR20det]

KW

You can not out build the Germans!!

[fliprayzin240sx]

KW

You can not out build the Germans!!

Aragostas from Netherlands, better than the Germans...:ddog:

[iRideFBMSR20det]

Aragostas from Netherlands, better than the Germans...:ddog:


Ok, I will check them out. I never heard of them. But... Knowing your rep around here.. I beleave you haha
:D

[Kingbaby]

get mr.wallet ready...

[drift freaq]

Ground Control now sells Koni coilovers for 240sx's S13 and S14 for $1650 with their pillowball camber caster plates.

[Akop]

Fortune auto. End of discussion.

[Flaboy]

Search, there are a lot of reviews.....

Power by Max with Swift springs....

You want the best, then you can either build it yourself with Ground Control stuff and custom housings

or by Zeal Functions....

Hay man the pic you have on you post do you have the MAX coils?? I'm in the market for a set and I'm really thinking MAX as we'll... In your pic do you have the car dropped all the way?? Is it your Daily. If so what springs are you running?? I've done alot of. Research on them and they have good reviews everywhere... Just nothing with heights... And pics

[Soondoobro]

KW

You can not out build the Germans!!

yes you can. they have some of the most unreliable cars.

VW hangs on to their germans decent engineering in the 70's but for quite some time they have been terrible.