Who's going to buy one? Tomei's new titanium exhaust!

[Pstl_pete]

Just got some images and the PDF through my inbox and thought I would post it up here. They'll be on sale at the end of the month.

I have one of these systems on my Evo VIII and absolutely love it. If I didn't have V8 in my S13 this system would be on there right away. Definitely going to look at putting one on the S14.

The million dollar question is, can the 240 community afford such an exhaust? It's quite a bargain in my opinion for what you're getting.

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[S-Nation S13]

Damn a grand + balla status right there .

[CrimsonRockett]

As long as it has good ground clearance, I can definitely see myself spending that much on a good exhaust.

Hell, a Reinhard exhaust was in the $800 range. This isn't all that much more.

[CamryOnBronze]

Really nice looking piece... interested to see the ground clearance for sure!

[kikcaffine]

Seems like a nice exhaust system. Their power gains look like on a totally built motor though.

[Matej]

Looks to be sunken, and I can already tell the by the muffler that it hangs too low.
Plus more and more S-chassis owners are straying away from N1-style exhausts.

[kikcaffine]

Looks to be sunken, and I can already tell the by the muffler that it hangs too low.
Plus more and more S-chassis owners are straying away from N1-style exhausts.
S-chassis's used to cost less than that muffler.

[zerodameaon]

If they had it in Dual N1 style. I cant justify scraping that beautiful thing up.

[Poofkins1984]

screw the exhaust, where can i get the highres version of those photos. I need a new wallpaper.

[sr20comic]

I want one! Someone buy my Greddy lol

[turbo2nr]

nice to see that the new parts being made for the s chassis, id buy once i get some of the bigger things out the way. defiantly a nice piece.

[Okinawandrifter87]

Honestly, like mentioned above, as long as ground clearance is not an issue with it then it is def worth the grand. It does seem like its hanging a bit low though.. wonder if poly urethane exhaust hangars could fix that?

[handinpants]

I bought a full ti exhaustfor my ducati, it cost me $2200 and it went from the oem exhause weighing near 30lbs to weighing 4lbs

[enkei2k]

~$1000 is retarded cheap for a TI exhaust (nobody pays MSRP). I'd definitely pick one up if I still had my S14 and didn't have to worry about people jacking up my car stealing the exhaust.

An exhaust for the Z cost >$1000 and that's for a NON TI version.

[DisEpyon]

Ugly and not worth it. I would be to scared to drive my car around, the slightest scratch would make me go monkey crazy. Just fabricate your own ss exhaust for a fraction of the cost.

[Quail]

That is a lot of exhaust for the money.

Reasons I wouldn't buy:

Looks too noisy for my needs
Looks too low

[fatduece]

Ewww coffie mug. No thanks. With the cops getting hungier each day, the last thing I would want is a fart can. I get less hassle with my isis dual tips even though their loud. Plus 3"duals look way better. Fart cans are 2011!! Time to flee the sinking ship like a rat.

[raz0rbladez909]

I would totally buy one if I had a 240sx again, I had one on my Evo X and it was incredibly light and sounded great. Quality is amazing too, the only problem I had was the little springs like to come off unless you bend them a little with some needle nose pliers. Tomei has great customer support too!

[ch1873857]

As long as it has good ground clearance, I can definitely see myself spending that much on a good exhaust.

Hell, a Reinhard exhaust was in the $800 range. This isn't all that much more.

Really? Im in the process of making a jig for one of the exhausts that i made. i do everything aluminum to stainless to oval exhausts and the biggest concern I have is ground clearence and weight. I didnt think there was really a market for it. most people are only worried about price.. :picardfp:

[blueshark123]

too bad i cant use that exhaust if only they make one for the z in that price range

[raz0rbladez909]

Really? Im in the process of making a jig for one of the exhausts that i made. i do everything aluminum to stainless to oval exhausts and the biggest concern I have is ground clearence and weight. I didnt think there was really a market for it. most people are only worried about price.. :picardfp:

That's because most people into 240's nowadays are broke as fuck, you still have some of the guys around willing to spend good money on nice parts :rawk:

[florante rea]

Very nice exhaust. Do they sell just the muffler section?

[ManoNegra]

If the RSR ExMag had been offered in Ti I would have bought one
canister... ugh, no thanks

[R33E8]

I wish they had a 4" version.. Someone needs to make a decent 4" exhaust for us (preferably non-N1 style).. Looks sick though..

[ultramagnus]

Yep Canister is a big :picardfp: nowadays. I have a Carbon Ti on my 510 and that's as much canister as i'll go. didn't want it but the price was just too damn good to pass up. I'll just re-do the hangers on my Noir so it's tucked more. It's def a good price as i was looking at the Reinhards for my S13 awhile back.

[tricky_ab]

The million dollar question is, can the 240 community afford such an exhaust? It's quite a bargain in my opinion for what you're getting.


It's finny that this is like $1200 and we seriously have to think about this line...

[ch1873857]

yeah no kidding thats why i like to put the muffler further up the exhaust and just run a "tip" back. HATE scaping exhausts. which is why the exhaust on my own car stops at a turn down beside the trans..

[ILoveJDM]

oh man i cant wait, this is is so fucking cheap, I just came back from an FD rx7, and some good name titanium used catbacks go for $1750

[C-unit]

Why are people comparing "your own fabricate SS exhaust" with a Ti exhaust? Try to make your own Ti exhaust and it'll probably cost the more than 1G.

1G is a good price for titanium. i would def get one for my R33 when i have some cash laying around.

[Mishkin_707]

Wow, eBay has the same style exhaust for a fraction of the price, there is no rocket science for metal tubing people.... Yeah yeah yeah.... Talk talk talk..... You'll talk crap about what I said but remember N1 style exhausts are 2004, and will get your ass pulled over by the cops, what will you be doing? Coming on here and complaining "oh f the cops they gave me a ticket, how do I fight it?" regreting you paid that much for something that's going to be taken off or stolen.

Don't get me wrong, I'm in for quality parts but when it comes to something like this I'm not getting ripped off for bent tubing and a welded little plate with the brand name logo

[tricky_ab]

^^ Are actually mental? Like did your mother drop you on your head when you were young? I'm serious asking so that I don't offend you.

Yeah it's just another bent tubed titanium exhaust for $1200

I don't even... ugh Zilvia...

[Mishkin_707]

Yes twice, thanks for asking. I spent less for my exhaust manifolds and exhaust for my LS2

[ILoveJDM]

^^ are actually mental? Like did your mother drop you on your head when you were young? I'm serious asking so that i don't offend you.

Yeah it's just another bent tubed titanium exhaust for $1200

i don't even... Ugh zilvia...

ya they even probably bend it with their bare hands to save money or somehting

[ch1873857]

Why are people comparing "your own fabricate SS exhaust" with a Ti exhaust? Try to make your own Ti exhaust and it'll probably cost the more than 1G.

1G is a good price for titanium. i would def get one for my R33 when i have some cash laying around.

no ones comparing...

comparing price/quality/market.. regardless of material..

you missed the point.

sure 1k for a titanium exhaust from a company like this IS cheap.

but it wouldnt cost me 1k to make.. :eek3:

[Highway Riding]

I wonder if the common dudes in Japan get shizz like this for themselves? Or if this is actually marketed for the non Japanese market to make some coin? IE: USA, Europe etc... Expensive yes. Over the top IMHO no. Some Titanium GTR exhausts are well over 4K. Coming from a Z33 it is widely accepted to spend $800-1000 and up for a good quality made exhaust.That is however with 2 canisters.. You get what you pay for. Some will sound like a tin can while others will sound nice and throatie. If i had the coin and a different driveway i'd cop one for sure.

[tricky_ab]

I'm still trying to figure out how people find this to be expensive?! And no it's not marketed to the NA market place in order for them to "make more coin".

They've been advertising this exhaust for MONTHS now in various JDM magazines...

[Pinggg]

I'm still trying to figure out how people find this to be expensive?! And no it's not marketed to the NA market place in order for them to "make more coin".

They've been advertising this exhaust for MONTHS now in various JDM magazines...

Welcome to the world of 240 owners not all but some.

[Trinidrift3]

looks amazing but i cant imagine spending that much for an exhaust.

i would need install pics, and sound clips to form a real opinion

[Highway Riding]

I'm still trying to figure out how people find this to be expensive?! And no it's not marketed to the NA market place in order for them to "make more coin".

They've been advertising this exhaust for MONTHS now in various JDM magazines...

I should have clarified a lil more:
Expensive for an exhaust for the 240 period regardless of specific material. Which i personally get! When i said marketed it meant just that. Nothing to do with NA.

[zo0d]

S14
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S13
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NISSAN

180SX (R)PS13: Stock is 14.5Kg (31.96lbs) – Tomei Expreme Ti is 4.65kg (10.25lbs)

Silvia S13: Stock is 14.5Kg (31.96lbs) – Tomei Expreme Ti is 4.65kg (10.25lbs)

Silvia S14: Stock is 16.0Kg (35.27lbs) – Tomei Expreme Ti is 4.85kg (10.69lbs)

Silvia S15: Stock is 16.0Kg (35.27lbs) – Tomei Expreme Ti is 4.85kg (10.69lbs)



Does anyone know the average weight of a typical SS aftermarket exhaust? I'm sure it's lighter than stock, but by how much?

[DisEpyon]

I find it funny for the people who say its not expensive, and it probably isnt expensive for titanium, but how many of you actually race your car and use it only as a race car? I think its completely unnecessary for the average joe building his car for street and partly track use. Like i said before its not worth it to spend that money if your car is street driven. Sure it will get scratched in both situations, but a ss exhaust can be close to as good as that titanium exhaust performance wise. Im not trying to compare that two, i just think its not worth spending that much money on a exhaust for the average person. But hey if your baller and can afford stuff like that then get it, i would, but unfortunately im a broke college dude. And those who say fabricating your own exhaust will be crap, you obviously have no experience in welding/ cutting metal and dont know the difference between quality tubing vs. cheap shit.

[raz0rbladez909]

oh man i cant wait, this is is so fucking cheap, I just came back from an FD rx7, and some good name titanium used catbacks go for $1750
LOL Exactly, the S2000 crowd is the same way, almost 3k for an Amuse exhaust:picardfp:

Wow, eBay has the same style exhaust for a fraction of the price, there is no rocket science for metal tubing people.... Yeah yeah yeah.... Talk talk talk..... You'll talk crap about what I said but remember N1 style exhausts are 2004, and will get your ass pulled over by the cops, what will you be doing? Coming on here and complaining "oh f the cops they gave me a ticket, how do I fight it?" regreting you paid that much for something that's going to be taken off or stolen.

Don't get me wrong, I'm in for quality parts but when it comes to something like this I'm not getting ripped off for bent tubing and a welded little plate with the brand name logo
:picardfp: Did you even look at the exhaust? Its not some ss ebay bullshit this is a full TITANIUM catback exhaust, and I doubt the people purchasing this are going to complain about getting pulled over on here, it comes with driving a modified car. I was never once hassled for any of my exhausts on my 350z, Evo, or S2000. Usually the people I see pulled over are the cars that look like shitboxes. Also please explain how to bend titanium piping it will be quite entertaining to read.

I find it funny for the people who say its not expensive, and it probably isnt expensive for titanium, but how many of you actually race your car and use it only as a race car? I think its completely unnecessary for the average joe building his car for street and partly track use. Like i said before its not worth it to spend that money if your car is street driven. Sure it will get scratched in both situations, but a ss exhaust can be close to as good as that titanium exhaust performance wise. Im not trying to compare that two, i just think its not worth spending that much money on a exhaust for the average person. But hey if your baller and can afford stuff like that then get it, i would, but unfortunately im a broke college dude. And those who say fabricating your own exhaust will be crap, you obviously have no experience in welding/ cutting metal and dont know the difference between quality tubing vs. cheap shit.

Honestly last I checked Ti piping was rather expensive unless you have a business license or a hookup of some sort, not to mention welding titanium isn't a common skill nor is it easy to do properly. Especially when every bend you are making is a pie cut. I guess after going through other communities it makes me realize how affordable the s-chassis is as a platform. Some people would die at the thought of a 1500 dollar front bumper lol

[kikcaffine]

That's because most people into 240's nowadays are broke as fuck, you still have some of the guys around willing to spend good money on nice parts :rawk:

lol these 240's are cheaper than hell compared to datsuns

[tricky_ab]

I had a Trust Ti exhaust that was $1500 (Regular price $2200)...And the only reason the price was discounted, was because their Japanese business model was weak and they had to re structure...

God with all these ridiculous responses, this thread is depressing as fuck...

[boricuas13]

The exhaust is awesome but my junkbox is too low I would just fyck it all up.....

[DisEpyon]

Honestly last I checked Ti piping was rather expensive unless you have a business license or a hookup of some sort, not to mention welding titanium isn't a common skill nor is it easy to do properly. Especially when every bend you are making is a pie cut. I guess after going through other communities it makes me realize how affordable the s-chassis is as a platform. Some people would die at the thought of a 1500 dollar front bumper lol
Makes it impossible for people to practice welding on Ti. Only way to get experience is to work for a company willing to train you. Ive never welded Ti before but i heard its somewhat similar to ss. As long as you back purge and use the right rod you should be good. True that, the 240sx is a very affordable car to learn how to work on cars and have a good build to race on.


lol these 240's are cheaper than hell compared to datsuns
Very true, Out of the 6 or so months of owning my 72 240z, ive dumped to much money in it to keep it drivable, but sure is worth it to me.

[fabulous71]

Also please explain how to bend titanium piping it will be quite entertaining to read.

+1

[ch1873857]

wait there titanium bends?!?!

oh and the cool colors that you see when people weld titanium (the blues, the greens, etc) are actually sign of a poor weld... may look cool but....

titanium is very difficult to weld RIGHT. and is not very similar to stainless. just a little.

[S14_BOSS]

Wow, eBay has the same style exhaust for a fraction of the price, there is no rocket science for metal tubing people.... Yeah yeah yeah.... Talk talk talk..... You'll talk crap about what I said but remember N1 style exhausts are 2004, and will get your ass pulled over by the cops, what will you be doing? Coming on here and complaining "oh f the cops they gave me a ticket, how do I fight it?" regreting you paid that much for something that's going to be taken off or stolen.

Don't get me wrong, I'm in for quality parts but when it comes to something like this I'm not getting ripped off for bent tubing and a welded little plate with the brand name logo

Couldn't have agreed with you more!

[ch1873857]

Couldn't have agreed with you more!

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gtfo

[s14boy]

sweet exhaust but me personaly i hate clamps for the pipes they should have used flanges or my favorit for exhausts v-band :) still looks great and the price is fair id like to hear a sound clip and a pull or two.

my two cents

[ch1873857]

thats another funny one ti v bands are stupid expensive

[leung]

I had a Trust Ti exhaust that was $1500 (Regular price $2200)...And the only reason the price was discounted, was because their Japanese business model was weak and they had to re structure...

God with all these ridiculous responses, this thread is depressing as fuck...

Meh. Typical 240 crowd in here. As expected you'd get replies like "oh ill just fab up my own" or shitting on the price cus they cant afford quality parts. If people actually compared prices to other titanium exhausts in the market and discontinued ones theyd see how much of a deal this is, especially coming from tomei being one of the top tuning companies.

[xoxide]

oh and the cool colors that you see when people weld titanium (the blues, the greens, etc) are actually sign of a poor weld... may look cool but....



Just goes to show you dont know your ass from a hole in the ground....

First off, do you see where the blue-ing is on the exhaust? Its not on welds, its at the tip and back of the canister. It is look that Tomei did on purpose by heating the exhaust can up. If it was from welding, it would be spotted and not a perfect ring around the tip (where there are no welds might I add).

You are correct on the fact that Ti is much more difficult to weld then stainless. With that being said, it takes an expirienced welder to do a clean job (or expensive machine, not sure the manufacturing process Tomei uses)... So really, 1k for a Ti exhaust is pretty cheap. Ti is expensive from the getgo, add on top of that the craftmanship that goes into making the angles (because it isnt bent like a stainless exhaust), 1k isnt bad.

Last, the people that will run this exhaust, even if on a street car, are not going to be coming on here posting the typical hipster "fuck the police" threads. The people that post those types of threads drive around shitbox S13's with ebay special parts.

Not all of that was directed towards you... Just adding to the conversation.

[EDacIouSX]

Wow, eBay has the same style exhaust for a fraction of the price, there is no rocket science for metal tubing people.... Yeah yeah yeah.... Talk talk talk..... You'll talk crap about what I said but remember N1 style exhausts are 2004, and will get your ass pulled over by the cops, what will you be doing? Coming on here and complaining "oh f the cops they gave me a ticket, how do I fight it?" regreting you paid that much for something that's going to be taken off or stolen.

Don't get me wrong, I'm in for quality parts but when it comes to something like this I'm not getting ripped off for bent tubing and a welded little plate with the brand name logo

You're stupid. I've had an A'Pexi N1 1 piece cat back exhaust on my car since 2004. How many times have I been pulled over for that exhaust? Once in 2010. Did I get a ticket? Nope.



This is an Amazing piece of exhaust. I really really would like it but I bought a brand new A'Pexi GT Spec Exhaust about a 1.5 years ago that only has 4k miles on it... And it sounds awesome! The Tomei Exhaust looks like it's a loud exhaust. :(

[ch1873857]

Meh. Typical 240 crowd in here. As expected you'd get replies like "oh ill just fab up my own" or shitting on the price cus they cant afford quality parts. If people actually compared prices to other titanium exhausts in the market and discontinued ones theyd see how much of a deal this is, especially coming from tomei being one of the top tuning companies.

have way more respect for someone that can and do make their own shit... thats not your typical 240 crowd.. dont stereotype everyone in an entire thread just because you think your on a different level than everyone else. your cool guy

[leung]

I dont. I personally can't afford it but I'm not shitting on the price like half the people in this thread. And i certainly do respect people who fabricate their own parts, but im pretty sure the majority of fabbed up exhausts on here look like a pile of dicks.

[ch1873857]

Just goes to show you dont know your ass from a hole in the ground....

First off, do you see where the blue-ing is on the exhaust? Its not on welds, its at the tip and back of the canister. It is look that Tomei did on purpose by heating the exhaust can up. If it was from welding, it would be spotted and not a perfect ring around the tip (where there are no welds might I add).

You are correct on the fact that Ti is much more difficult to weld then stainless. With that being said, it takes an expirienced welder to do a clean job (or expensive machine, not sure the manufacturing process Tomei uses)... So really, 1k for a Ti exhaust is pretty cheap. Ti is expensive from the getgo, add on top of that the craftmanship that goes into making the angles (because it isnt bent like a stainless exhaust), 1k isnt bad.

Last, the people that will run this exhaust, even if on a street car, are not going to be coming on here posting the typical hipster "fuck the police" threads. The people that post those types of threads drive around shitbox S13's with ebay special parts.

Not all of that was directed towards you... Just adding to the conversation.

seriously shut the fuck up. im not talking about the "burnt tip" look. im talking about the welds themselves which are commonly (not on the tomei piece) found in some custom pieces that ive seen..

http://www.millerwelds.com/education/articles/images/Titanium-poster.jpg
http://www.millerwelds.com/education/articles/images/table2.jpg
http://www.millerwelds.com/education/articles/images/fig18A.jpg

Miller - Titanium 101: Best TIG (GTA) Welding Practices (http://www.millerwelds.com/resources/articles/TIG-gtaw-titanium-welding)

how bout you ask for clarification before you trying to call someone out tard. i know what the fuck im doing.

[xoxide]

Then why the fuck would you post about it if it wasnt directed towards the Tomei exhaust? To strut your e-knowledge? The pussification of America at its prime right there.

Believe me, I have the knowlege and means to build a ti exhaust if I wanted too... It doesnt mean I go around the internet flaunting my "knowledge" in random threads.

[Pstl_pete]

I told my buddy that as soon as I posted this exhaust post on here there'd be a bunch of idiots chirping how its expensive and they same can be made for cheaper, boy was I right.

I'm not even going to waste my time trying to explain anything because I know the majority of you understand how difficult it is to make a system such as this not to mention the cost of the material and labor.

By the way, even if you hate the exhaust you should be happy as fuck that a company such as Tomei has built something for the S-chassis... look around, last time I checked no other company is doing shit for these cars.

[ch1873857]

it was in response to disepyon not the fuckin tomei stuff. that e-knowledge was intended to shut you up. it was mearly a reference. i have seriously lost all hope for zilvia.. and the idiots i encounter here.

[xoxide]

Ill give it a month until companies like Godspeed and Megan knock it off and start building Ti exhausts for half the price and all the fanbois start going crazy.

[ch1873857]

dont see it happening . those cheap ass exhausts are mass produced because the ability to do so is there. the same cannot be said for a ti exhaust. thought you were the smart one here...

[xoxide]

:picardfp: Its not the first time someone will have made a replica titanium exhaust.

Im not sure what Ti is selling for currently, but I gaurentee a good chunk of that 1k exhaust is from the quality welding and cuts in the "bends".

Its easy to sacrifice the weld quality to make them cheaper and quicker.

[towlie]

Looks awesome, probably sounds AMAZING on an SR.

Canisters will never go out of style

[mewantkouki]

Police in my state are reason enough to never waste money on a N1 exhaust again... RSR exmag ftmfw

[raz0rbladez909]

For all those bitching about pricing it seems frsport has it on preorder for 900 something. So quit your bitching lol for all the smart ones in here know that this is an even better deal
http://www.zilvia.net/f/intake-exhaust/453907-tomei-expreme-titanium-s13-s14-s15-available-pre-order-frsport.html

[xoxide]

Florida police arent bad at all about exhausts. I've been pulled over for other things and only 1 cop said my exhaust was illegal on my old car but he couldnt show me the statue where it stated modded exhausts were illegal. Apexi noir ftw lol

[towlie]

I've been pulled over twice with my loud ass straight piped 5zigen exhaust and the officers never mentioned it. Both a county and stater... You guys must be driving like assholes or something lol.

If FRSport includes free shipping that's such a deal lol

[turbo_dreams]

The pie cuts look really good. Seems like quite the steal for a titanium exhaust although I swear by my Fujitsubo.

[colombianbryan]

wow beautiful exhaust! can't wait till it hits the market!

[huffandpuff00]

My greddy Ti-R exhaust was mandrel bent. It's possible to mandrel bend Ti, so why pie cut the exhaust?

[zerodameaon]

My greddy Ti-R exhaust was mandrel bent. It's possible to mandrel bend Ti, so why pie cut the exhaust?

To be different. Cant get sued as easy for patent infringement if your product is different.

[ch1873857]

To be different. Cant get sued as easy for patent infringement if your product is different.

yeah thats why :cj:

pie cuts offer more precise angles. perfect for hand made systems. mass production would warrant custom angles that deviate away from standard 45s 90s and sometimes 135s.

[kikcaffine]

So serious question here thats probably going to get lost amongst a sea of kids bitching about price, but how much different does a TI exhaust sound from a SS? Is the main point of going to it going to be weight savings?

[raz0rbladez909]

So serious question here thats probably going to get lost amongst a sea of kids bitching about price, but how much different does a TI exhaust sound from a SS? Is the main point of going to it going to be weight savings?

Main point is weight savings, but TI exhausts usually have a different tone to them. Kind of hard to describe with words but they have like a "tingy" resonance to them. Doesn't sound bad though it's usually pretty nice sounding.

[Pstl_pete]

The exhaust comes with a silencer so it's very liveable on the street. Even without, if you have a cat installed it sounds like any other canister setup.

Here's two videos of it on my Evo's both with no cats on so they're a bit loud as I mentioned.

Tomei Expreme Ti Evo Exhaust Video - YouTube (http://youtu.be/7gt_gqaN8os)

Tomei TiExpeme Sound video - YouTube (http://youtu.be/fAF_cw2QG0A)

[CamryOnBronze]

Man, I kind of want to get one just because of Zilvia. lol.

[raz0rbladez909]

Man, I kind of want to get one just because of Zilvia. lol.

+1 lol
Makes me want to get another 240sx too since it seems so few people can build nice ones nowadays lol(yours is a great example of a nice one)

[ManoNegra]

Wow, eBay has the same style exhaust for a fraction of the price, there is no rocket science for metal tubing people.... Yeah yeah yeah.... Talk talk talk..... You'll talk crap about what I said but remember N1 style exhausts are 2004, and will get your ass pulled over by the cops, what will you be doing? Coming on here and complaining "oh f the cops they gave me a ticket, how do I fight it?" regreting you paid that much for something that's going to be taken off or stolen.

Don't get me wrong, I'm in for quality parts but when it comes to something like this I'm not getting ripped off for bent tubing and a welded little plate with the brand name logo

no offense, but you're an idiot

My greddy Ti-R exhaust was mandrel bent. It's possible to mandrel bend Ti, so why pie cut the exhaust?

product description for the Greddy Ti-R s14 exhaust:
GReddy Racing Ti-C Cat-back Exhausts combine the design, looks and flow of our Full Racing Titanium systems with the durability, deep sound. This fusion of aggressive styling and practical construction, makes this the logical choice for both Race and Street Enthusiasts. The systems are comprised of a Titanium heat-treated tip, polished stainless steel muffler, unpolished stainless steel piping. It improves high and mid-range performance while still allowing for suitable sound levels when used with the included tuned Tri-mounted Silencer*.


cliff notes:
- Ti for weight saving
- you can't readily bend Ti
- Ti is difficult to weld - the welds on the Tomei exhausts are electron beam welded. Think NC welding, that's not a cheap process.
- canister exhaust are bleh
- this Tomei exhaust is a bargain at $1k

[jorge1190]

Awesome weight and inexpensive for Titanium.

I know my Veilside Evolution cost a lot more than this when it was new and that thing weights about 40 pounds. Would get it but I am not a fan of canisters. It is good to see legit companies still developing products for the S chassis though.

[Mishkin_707]

Wow, when I meant no rocket science you people went nuts, don't matter what it's made of/bent/welding, I just saying what performance are you going to get because the piping material? It's not rocket science pertaining to it's a tube to let exhaust fumes out and to the back of the vehicle, I dont think that the fumes are going to mix with the material the piping is made of and make the car faster, it's the amount of bends and size of piping that matters.

Why are you guys complaining about "how TI is bent or welded" there are barely any bends or welds, shit it's got clamps to hold the piping together shit the hanger is a big ass clamp too....

[Quail]

I just saying what performance are you going to get because the piping material?

Performance isn't only measured by engine output, you know?

Have you felt the weight of a titanium exhaust next to a steel exhaust?

[raz0rbladez909]

Performance isn't only measured by engine output, you know?

Have you felt the weight of a titanium exhaust next to a steel exhaust?

Exactly, why is it that people here don't seem to realize the benefits of weight reduction?

[Zenki_516]

Oh man, this thread just made me realize what a loser I am for still rocking a Nur Spec canister exhaust... I gotta be like everyone else and get blast pipes right now.

[Matej]

It is just piping with a canister. The same exhaust made out of stainless steel would probably not be that much heavier.
The exhaust is too boy racer for my ultra mature tastes, but I am not trying to talk anyone out of buying it either.

[jamg]

i can appreciate good craftsmanship, but damn, that's one expensive piece of furnished tubing that directs air out.

[BoostinIX]

Did anyone else notice the paste was for the Ti-C exhaust and not the Ti-R? That said, suck it up and get the Tomei, or stop complaining :P (in gereral, not at Mano)

no offense, but you're an idiot



product description for the Greddy Ti-R s14 exhaust:



cliff notes:
- Ti for weight saving
- you can't readily bend Ti
- Ti is difficult to weld - the welds on the Tomei exhausts are electron beam welded. Think NC welding, that's not a cheap process.
- canister exhaust are bleh
- this Tomei exhaust is a bargain at $1k


People have no problem shelling out 3k for "Baller legit" wheels, so 1K for something that actually adds power and lowers weight, what's the issue?

[tricky_ab]

Man, I kind of want to get one just because of Zilvia. lol.

Please?

i can appreciate good craftsmanship, but damn, that's one expensive piece of furnished tubing that directs air out.

http://h11.abload.de/img/0269_rm5f.gif

Materials and weight people...For the money it's hard to beat...I don't know why we are going in circles here...

Oh wait...

$1K = Expensive?!

[Mishkin_707]

Performance isn't only measured by engine output, you know?

Have you felt the weight of a titanium exhaust next to a steel exhaust?


Very true and good point, but how many people here arguing have a track only car that need the weight reduction? Most of the people here drive their car on the street and they don't even want to spend $1k for a set of new and good quality coilovers but have the $1k for an exhaust? Hell not even $400 for a good alarm system?

[VQMaxFan]

Just an FYI but filler rods for Ti is $8 a peice, just to give an idea on how much materials alone are.

[raz0rbladez909]

Very true and good point, but how many people here arguing have a track only car that need the weight reduction? Most of the people here drive their car on the street and they don't even want to spend $1k for a set of new and good quality coilovers but have the $1k for an exhaust? Hell not even $400 for a good alarm system?

Weight reduction can be beneficial anywhere honestly. The less your car weighs the easier it is on the braking system, it also helps with acceleration as well. Not saying that it's even remotely necessary to have a fully stripped down car on the streets but reducing weight helps substantially and simple solutions like this are much better then hacking off parts of your car lol.

[Quail]

It is just piping with a canister. The same exhaust made out of stainless steel would probably not be that much heavier.


Ti exhausts are pretty damn light man, as this fellow demonstrates:

http://www.invoauto.co.uk/images/Products/Exhaust/Honda/EP3-TIT-catback-Tommy-lrg.jpg

[Matej]

That exhaust has a blue muffler. :)
While I am all about making my car light, in an exhaust my first five priorities are for it to have an OEM-styled/grown-up muffler, be decently quiet, fit well, not be sunken, and tuck up high.

[Turbo Nismo]

It looks sick, but I couldn't buy it because cops around here mess around to much for having exhaust system and I wont like to be pulled over every time a cop sees me and gives me a $150 for it at all moments. I'd prefer to stay with mine that looks more sleeper and cheaper.

[ManoNegra]

Oh man, this thread just made me realize what a loser I am for still rocking a Nur Spec canister exhaust... I gotta be like everyone else and get blast pipes right now.

first exhaust I ever bought almost a decade ago
got a great deal on it at the time: $600

Very true and good point, but how many people here arguing have a track only car that need the weight reduction? Most of the people here drive their car on the street and they don't even want to spend $1k for a set of new and good quality coilovers but have the $1k for an exhaust? Hell not even $400 for a good alarm system?

I do and so do some of my friends although I'm not at the crazy weight reduction stage yet...

That exhaust has a blue muffler. :)
While I am all about making my car light, in an exhaust my first five priorities are for it to have an OEM-styled/grown-up muffler, be decently quiet, fit well, not be sunken, and tuck up high.

as I said prior, if the RSR ExMag has been offered in Ti I'd have bought one.

[Corbic]

Anymore a lot of this stuff looks just like this...

http://www.punjabigraphics.com/images/33/gucci-bag.jpg

[Kevin920415]

not me! aint gona do much justice on my ka lol

[huffandpuff00]

Quote:Originally Posted by huffandpuff00
My greddy Ti-R exhaust was mandrel bent. It's possible to mandrel bend Ti, so why pie cut the exhaust?

product description for the Greddy Ti-R s14 exhaust:

Quote:GReddy Racing Ti-C Cat-back Exhausts combine the design, looks and flow of our Full Racing Titanium systems with the durability, deep sound. This fusion of aggressive styling and practical construction, makes this the logical choice for both Race and Street Enthusiasts. The systems are comprised of a Titanium heat-treated tip, polished stainless steel muffler, unpolished stainless steel piping. It improves high and mid-range performance while still allowing for suitable sound levels when used with the included tuned Tri-mounted Silencer*.


You found the description for thr Ti-C, which is SS piping and a Ti muffler, but my Exhaust was a s13 Ti-R full Ti w/ mandrel bends.

Here is what is sounded like:
240sx TRUST Ti-R full titainium start-up - YouTube (http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&drKey=325&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fzilvia.net%2Ff%2Fsale-items%2F261879-fs-ft-testing-waters-s13-trust-ti-r-full-titainium-exhaust-super-jdm.html&v=1&libid=1337306041357&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DBx2 nf4RFPQM&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fzilvia.net%2Ff%2Fsearch.php%3Fsea rchid%3D10855239&title=OR%20FS%2FFT%20Testing%20waters%3A%20S13%20T rust%20Ti-R%20full%20titainium%20exhaust(SUPER%20JDM)%20-%20Zilvia.net%20Forums%20%7C%20Nissan%20240SX%20(S ilvia)%20and%20Z%20(Fairlady)%20Car%20Forum&txt=YouTube%20-%20240sx%20TRUST%20Ti-R%20full%20titainium%20start-up&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13373060489541)
240sx TRUST Ti-R full titainium - YouTube (http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&drKey=325&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fzilvia.net%2Ff%2Fsale-items%2F261879-fs-ft-testing-waters-s13-trust-ti-r-full-titainium-exhaust-super-jdm.html&v=1&libid=1337306041357&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DiEh-a1tHN9Y&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fzilvia.net%2Ff%2Fsearch.php%3Fsea rchid%3D10855239&title=OR%20FS%2FFT%20Testing%20waters%3A%20S13%20T rust%20Ti-R%20full%20titainium%20exhaust(SUPER%20JDM)%20-%20Zilvia.net%20Forums%20%7C%20Nissan%20240SX%20(S ilvia)%20and%20Z%20(Fairlady)%20Car%20Forum&txt=YouTube%20-%20240sx%20TRUST%20Ti-R%20full%20titainium&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13373061055782)

I cant imagine the Tomei Ti exhaust sounding much different then the greddy one. but still the best thing about this exhaust is the weight savings. The T-R was 12lbs and this is even less! crazy deal for less that $1000

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-PrFP4nWrcvY/T7Wqo2wEVFI/AAAAAAAABQ8/8F0oUYSPZmk/s1600/DSC_0080.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-yJ0IOBcgNxI/T7Wq8MxKRyI/AAAAAAAABRE/hXyttZf-CJs/s1600/DSC_0088.jpg

[ManoNegra]

[QUOTE=huffandpuff00;4697906]You found the description for thr Ti-C, which is SS piping and a Ti muffler, but my Exhaust was a s13 Ti-R full Ti w/ mandrel bends.

I cant imagine the Tomei Ti exhaust sounding much different then the greddy one. but still the best thing about this exhaust is the weight savings. The T-R was 12lbs and this is even less! crazy deal for less that $1000

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-PrFP4nWrcvY/T7Wqo2wEVFI/AAAAAAAABQ8/8F0oUYSPZmk/s1600/DSC_0080.jpg

Titanium exhaust and Megan links... :eek3d:
lol

but you're right
there are processes to bend titanium but it's tricky
according to a friend it needs to be annealed and treated carefully since Ti is very brittle
the risk and cost isn't worth it in most cases

[KOUKIboy]

Its a very nice exhaust, but damn a grand!!! I could not justify myself on spending a grand on an exhaust, coils and suspension yeah, but an exhaust meh I don't think so, it also hangs too low, I would go mad nuts if I scrapped this beauty.....

[leung]

Not even scratches...if you put a hole in it and/or it needs to be rewelded, i'm sure finding someone that knows how and would do a quality job would be a bitch too.

[crozzover69]

I have actually had the chance to hold and lift the Skyline versions of this exhaust and I gotta say this blew my mind.

Putting arguments about money and affordability aside, this is by far one
of the best, lightest mods you could do add to your 240sx/180sx.
I held the Tomei R32 Exhaust with my pinky too.

I have a prototype Apexi Ti exhaust I bought at an Apexi sale in Orange, Ca and
was giddy like a school girl cus' I thought that was light, this is anorexic
ballerina light!!!

& common its either this, or YOU LOSE 21 LBS :eek3d:

[DJ-of-E]

I would like a TI version of the sleeper exhaust, otherwise I don't like driving through Irvine and get started at by cops, especially when my paint is wearing really bad. Expensive or not, less cop magnet the better.

[iamthewinner]

for race car only

[[email protected]]

Going on tonight :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/r0b3rt/WP_000103.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/r0b3rt/WP_000102.jpg


Regards,
Robert

[Highway Riding]

That is a gorgeous piece of art.... If only i didn't scrape in and out of my driveway!

[tricky_ab]

Going on tonight :D

Regards,
Robert

Finally, someone picked this up...

[[email protected]]

I'll have some pics for you guys tomorrow and possibly a sound clip(trying to secure a good quality camera). No WOT clips as I'm not fully tuned on my new 1000cc injectors, only partial throttle and cruising.

Regards,
Robert

[ForeignMuscle]

I also had the Greddy Ti-R on my s13. Weighed 11lbs. Cost $1199.. Either way, if its for race, go for it. Drop 30lbs instantly. For a street car, hell no. Bottom out one time and figure out how brittle that metal is. It doesn't bend.. BUT, that hard, thin, brittle metal makes the most wicked exhaust note I have ever heard. This piece looks amazing. I just wouldnt put it on a street car. Unless I was rich, then hell yea I would.

[SupaDoopa]

I bet most people are waiting for ISIS to knock it off and sell it for 400$. Tomei knock offs for DAYZ.

[bigs]

^Yes, because you can knock off the price of titanium...

[raz0rbladez909]

^Yes, because you can knock off the price of titanium...

Lol exactly!! If people think this exhaust is expensive they obviously haven't taken a look at Amuse lol

[drscooper]

Lol exactly!! If people think this exhaust is expensive they obviously haven't taken a look at Amuse lol

exactly what im saying after reading this whole thread!! lol

and i want to hear them sound clips!!

[eek]

I would get one if I already didn't have a MINT GREDDY/TRUST TI-R on my S14. Yes, it is loud, it is light, and if you want to say "BALLER" I guess. Does it attract a shit load of attention? YES, but the car sits in the garage more than it see's the streets so I don't give a FUK. VERY CURIOUS to hear a FULL TI exhaust on a say a V8 Swapped car like a LS1 or something along those lines.

[[email protected]]

Roughly mocked up, still need to tweak the piping(all slip fit) so it's perfect. Was 10pm before I finished and my daughter was in bed so didn't bother turning it on. Either way here are some installed pics and I must say this thing looks badass!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/r0b3rt/WP_000107.jpg

Regards,
Robert

[raz0rbladez909]

Roughly mocked up, still need to tweak the piping(all slip fit) so it's perfect. Was 10pm before I finished and my daughter was in bed so didn't bother turning it on. Either way here are some installed pics and I must say this thing looks badass!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/r0b3rt/WP_000107.jpg

Regards,
Robert

Now tell Tomei I want one for my FRS and 240z :)

[[email protected]]

Actually just sold an Amuse titanium exhaust to customer in Canada for a FR-S...4k+ for a catback o_O.

Regards,
Robert

[cnile51]

I got one, Ill post pics soon.

[Big Zee]

Seems like a nice exhaust system. Their power gains look like on a totally built motor though.

they did post that there are poncams, pistons and the tomei arms kits on it.

[tricky_ab]

I can't wait to hear some sound clips ;)

[[email protected]]

Plan is to dyno tune my car Friday on meth so will have a tripod and good quality camera at that time.

Regards,
Robert

[BossHogg]

I am debating on getting this exhaust. My first exhaust I ever bought was a KTS titanium exhaust back in 2005 i think. It was 700 shipped to my door from SPL parts. Last I heard there were 3 in the country. It is a bent Ti system. I think it was like 14 lbs if I remember correctly. I also have a apex N1 (came on the new chasis)...what a heavy turd. I spoiled myself by going straight to titanium the first time. Lol at all the excuses to not buy it. Why mod your car at all then? How do you determine where to draw the line for modding? That logic has always made me laugh. How many of you have a CF or FRP hood? How about widebody, light weight wheels, cams, bigger turbo etc etc etc? Is any of that necessary for non race car? Some people like quality shit, some people can't afford nice things so they find ways to make them feel content about not having it. I mean surely you guys could go buy some cheap shit brand coilovers for the same price this exhaust is LOL. Guess I'm wired different. It's personal choice on what you want for your car.

can't wait to hear it chops. You may just sway me to the "add to cart" button lol. I want to hear it on a rb25.

[xoxide]

^You are the first person ive ever seen, argue with himself... Pretty funny. I cant wait for the sound clip!

[BossHogg]

^You are the first person ive ever seen, argue with himself... Pretty funny. I cant wait for the sound clip!

argue with myself? I have Ti and SS exhausts. The SS came on the new chasis i bought and is just laying around. I was just laughing at the excuses as to not buy a Ti exhaust. For race car only, to expensive for exhaust, unnecessary etc...... Can we define "race car"? What determines if you have a race car? I would think half the parts we "upgrade" to could fall into those excuses? Would a ti exhaust be ok to put on a gtr? Ferrari? Are those race cars? Just trying to understand that mind state. It's kind of funny.

[badfish816]

Some people like quality shit, some people can't afford nice things so they find ways to make them feel content about not having it.

this is the smartest thing i have read this entire thread. haha. i see every other thread on here comes down to what someone "justifies" as practical for a street car. they will turbo there "DD" but a Ti system is just "overkill!" c'mon quit bitchin and let those who want quality parts show their excitement for stuff like this. damn. Zilvia needs to take a Midol for God's sake.


if i want a jet engine on my daily, then fuck it i'm gonna do it. i dont care if you cant afford it.

[eek]

this is the smartest thing i have read this entire thread. haha. i see every other thread on here comes down to what someone "justifies" as practical for a street car. they will turbo there "DD" but a Ti system is just "overkill!" c'mon quit bitchin and let those who want quality parts show their excitement for stuff like this. damn. Zilvia needs to take a Midol for God's sake.


if i want a jet engine on my daily, then fuck it i'm gonna do it. i dont care if you cant afford it.

Yea but then you get all the broke people raggin that your a JDM Name brand whore/fanboi. Anyhow, lets see that dyno run.

[badfish816]

True. You just can't win can you?

[[email protected]]

Have a bit of bad news guys. Went to replace my downpipe gaskets and found my exhaust leak as actually coming from my manifold to turbo gasket...so needless to say I started to tear off my turbo kit last night so I can replace that. Fully explains why I was only hitting 20psi :(. I did start it before I tore it down and it's a good bit louder than my RSR GT2 with a much deeper exhaust note at idle and sub 3k(only light revs, HOA hates me).

Regards,
Robert

[badfish816]

damn i was all excited to hear it. at least it only cost you $1k to find where your leak was coming from. haha.

[[email protected]]

Being married and having a kid kind of depletes any free time lol. Have to wrench when everyone's asleep now.

Regards,
Robert

[bladetech8]

I'm definitely getting one for my hatchback! I support true R&D/fabrication and TOMEI deserves to remain in business for making seriously legitimate parts like this. I support the JDM companies for keeping our cars on the map as tuning platforms and for the continued support and part production for a 20+ year old car! They rock! :cool:

[ixfxi]

Not even scratches...if you put a hole in it and/or it needs to be rewelded, i'm sure finding someone that knows how and would do a quality job would be a bitch too.

best post this entire thread


its an exhaust, a lot of people here dont realize that these things are replacement items that need servicing should any damages ever occur. a friend's fujitsubo muffler hanger sheared off, i grabbed some stainless rod and welded it back on - done and done. i think repairing this thing would be a very difficult option... not something i would care to tackle with my entry-level tig welding experience.

that being said, its a totally cool piece and i would get one.. but ide be the asshole to have it powdercoated black like i did my rsr gt2. in the end, i dont think i would part ways with my gt2... i really like that exhaust, especially because its black. i have NO interest in showing off this polished blue flame........... thing.


oh yeah, and price is totally reasonable. i'de pay that right now, no questions asked.

[[email protected]]

Right now I can just pretty much cruise it without any boost till my tuner has a free weekend :(. Oh well still sounds killer idling and cruising around:

Tomei Expreme Ti Exhaust System for S14 on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/49244739#at=0)

Regards,
Robert

[Ktown_drifter]

if they made one for a JZZ30 i would be all over it.. F worrying about scratches.. we F up works wheels and vertext kits.. whats a TI exhaust.. really i bet it wouldnt wear through as fast as a reg SS one

[[email protected]]

PM headed your way ;).

Regards,
Robert

[Fred Allen Burge]

In my opinion, when it comes to exhaust you want THICK HEAVY tubing, not thin, lightweight delicate stuff. Look at modern OEM exhausts, they're thick SS, seriously hard to cut even w/a Sawzall. Why make them this way? To keep the sound and heat INSIDE the pipe the whole way back, this makes the whole system quieter until the exhaust can get out the muffler and the floor cooler. And, to make them dent, ding and rust resistant. THAT is quality construction.

Lastly, if you're doing this for weight savings....you do know they can be made out of aluminum right? Most anyone can weld aluminum and it's cheap compared to this stuff.


You know what they say...."We buy on emotion and justify with logic."

[89JDM240sx]

that's a nice exhaust i like how they show the welds...

[zo0d]

In my opinion, when it comes to exhaust you want THICK HEAVY tubing, not thin, lightweight delicate stuff. Look at modern OEM exhausts, they're thick SS, seriously hard to cut even w/a Sawzall. Why make them this way? To keep the sound and heat INSIDE the pipe the whole way back, this makes the whole system quieter until the exhaust can get out the muffler and the floor cooler. And, to make them dent, ding and rust resistant. THAT is quality construction.

Lastly, if you're doing this for weight savings....you do know they can be made out of aluminum right? Most anyone can weld aluminum and it's cheap compared to this stuff.


You know what they say...."We buy on emotion and justify with logic."


Titanium has the highest weight/strength ratio of any metal.

It has all your bases covered.

[xoxide]

In my opinion, when it comes to exhaust you want THICK HEAVY tubing, not thin, lightweight delicate stuff. Look at modern OEM exhausts, they're thick SS, seriously hard to cut even w/a Sawzall. Why make them this way? To keep the sound and heat INSIDE the pipe the whole way back, this makes the whole system quieter until the exhaust can get out the muffler and the floor cooler. And, to make them dent, ding and rust resistant. THAT is quality construction.

Lastly, if you're doing this for weight savings....you do know they can be made out of aluminum right? Most anyone can weld aluminum and it's cheap compared to this stuff.


You know what they say...."We buy on emotion and justify with logic."
Im pretty sure people arent buying the Ti systems for their quietness and heat absorbtion-ness lol.

[va240dude]

From the video it looks like it hugs the frame well, but in the other pics it looks like it hangs too low. Robert, what are your impressions on the S14 as far as clearance?

[Walperstyle]

Why are people comparing "your own fabricate SS exhaust" with a Ti exhaust? Try to make your own Ti exhaust and it'll probably cost the more than 1G.

1G is a good price for titanium. i would def get one for my R33 when i have some cash laying around.

I hear what you are saying. The funny thing is nobody really needs Titanium. This exhaust is just a simple 'want' factor.

Unless I'm involved in aerospace, Titanium anything is kind of pointless. If I break mine, I'll fix it.

[59bhp]

In my opinion, when it comes to exhaust you want THICK HEAVY tubing, not thin, lightweight delicate stuff. Look at modern OEM exhausts, they're thick SS, seriously hard to cut even w/a Sawzall. Why make them this way? To keep the sound and heat INSIDE the pipe the whole way back, this makes the whole system quieter until the exhaust can get out the muffler and the floor cooler. And, to make them dent, ding and rust resistant. THAT is quality construction.


no they dont, all new toyota car exhausts are 1mm thick wall and sometimes less,

this is to keep the weight down aswell as costs,

rust resistance comes from the material,

i only know because i used to be a manufacturing engineer for the company who made exhaust for the big OEM's :)

[MamangSorbetero]

I would buy it, but it screams to get pulled over.

The Apexi Noir is an interesting choice for the color it has. Maybe if this Ti has been powdercoated black I would consider

[[email protected]]

The Noir was my other choice but really wanted this Ti system simply for weight. I have never bottomed out on my exhaust in 7 years so not really worried about demolishing it. For people who are slammed though I can see the concern.

Is Titanium necessary...no but is Aero necessary? No. Nearly every aftermarket part all of us have on our cars is a want not a need.

Regards,
Robert

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From the video it looks like it hugs the frame well, but in the other pics it looks like it hangs too low. Robert, what are your impressions on the S14 as far as clearance?


It's pretty snugged up vs what the initial photgraphs portray. I'm still using stock rubber hangers so I'm sure with upgraded hangers and some tweaking(slip fit so rotate mid pipe snugs it up even more) it shouldn't be an issue for your average vehicle. Now dudes who scrape frame rail on a daily basis...yea you might want to just get a cheapo exhaust since you will be replacing it every year anyhow.

Regards,
Robert

[Asil]

Great value for a titanium cat back. Sounds sick! Wish the car was moving rather than standing still thanks for the clip though.

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Alright, first impression from actually driving it daily since Saturday. Without silencer it has a more high pitched sound to it than my RSR GT2 on the highway(3000ish rpm/70mph) so it actually has less drone on the highway(Upgraded Elbow,3 inch dp, 3 inch test pipe and Tomei Ti) which is nice. I had the A/C repaired on my car on Saturday so on my way to work(40 miles one way) today rolled with the windows up and silencer in :D. Lets just say I heard more road noise than I did exhaust noise lol. With the silencer installed it really makes my car an enjoyable cruiser now. Not 100% sure it's CA safe as the exhaust is still massive, shiny and burnt blue but sound wise with silencer I would put it a tad louder than an Apexi Noir.

The Rattle noise heard on the video is just as I suspected. The springs they use to hold the system together at the joints are rattling so I will be calling them today to inform them of it. Going to pull them out and wrap them in something to get rid of the noise. You could physically see them move almost 1/4" at 4000rpm tapping the exhaust.

Regards,
Robert