Del sols

[keepitmovin]

I know i shouldnt be talking about them but what are your opinions on em? I will be getting one in about a week, (its free long story ill be selling around late summer for a 95'240 dont worry) But im just wondering. It might grow on me. Anyways im still in High school so there is always after so i can get my dream car (240) and modd the #### outta it. Thanks

[keepitmovin]

Reason why i posted it here is cause on all honda boards are biased.....I want your guys opinions, you guys know wassup. Thanks agian

[JeffNJ]

A del Sol?!  What the #### are you posting about this Honda crap on an obviously Nissan board?  Sheesh.

[LanceS13]

haha! &nbsp; <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
They're not a bad car. &nbsp; I'd get the 160hp VTEC del Sol if any. &nbsp;But they can't be any cheaper than a good S13...why not check it out? &nbsp;It might grow on you. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

Well, its a nifty little car. &nbsp;Basically its a civic with a targa roof and a 1.6L motor. &nbsp;If you get the VTEC it'll scream, but if you just get the regular engine, you're no better off than if you were driving your aunt matilda's grocery getter. &nbsp;My friend bought one 3 years ago and loves it still, but my wife always remarks that it makes him look a bit feminine behind the wheel.
Its also FWD, nuff said.

[JeffNJ]

If you read a thread entitled &quot;Just me posting again...&quot; that last post should be funnier. Anyway, I just bought a del Sol last week. So, you want an opinion on one - here it is.

Do you want, I mean really want, a convertible? If you don't, the 240 looks nicer and drives better. But only the hardtop editions. I owned a '91 for two years and it was simply the nicest car I had ever driven (noteworthy comparisons being a '90 Integra, '96 300zx, and '93 MR2 to name a few).

However, if that open air and sun are things you just must have, the 240sx convertible, which I owned for a few months, well, it bites. Ragtops are bumpy, slow, loud, and did I mention bumpy (notable comparisons being a '99 Sunfire, '99 Cavalier, and '95 Mustang).

If you can't deal with the cowl shake and wind noise with the top up, but still really wanna mess your hair up good, the del Sol is an excellent choice. At least, I thought so. I test drove one and really had a blast in it.

It's small, yes, but that adds to the fun factor. Seriously consider how bad you'll feel insisting that someone else drive everytime you go out with more than one person. The trunk though is quite huge. I just moved a coffee table in it this weekend. But, back to small being good. It accelerates like a dart and corners like a .. uhm .. thing that corners really well because it's super light. Much like a Miata, I guess, but not so claustrophobicly small. The del Sol is surprisingly comfortable, fun, and even practical. You can go 300 miles on ten bucks worth of gas.

FWD vs. RWD? In two cars the same general size (a 240 and an Integra), I could totally feel the difference, and vastly preferred the RWD. The del Sol, however, I gotta say, is a ton of fun on a long twisty road. Almost RWD-ish. Honda knows &quot;sporty&quot; people don't like FWD cars, so they tried pretty hard to make sure this one didn't feel like one. They did an admirable job.

I must stress though, if you think a sunroof might be enough for you (unlike myself), go with the 240sx. &nbsp;The bottom line is that they really do look nicer and drive better. &nbsp;The del Sol is nothing more than a wonderfully executed project of comprimises, but it lacks Nissan's passion.


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[keepitmovin]

As i said before I am getting it FREE, I would no way pay for a del sol and its just til I get a 240. But thanks for your opinion.

[ka24et]

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As i said before I am getting it FREE, I would no way pay for a del sol and its just til I get a 240. But thanks for your opinion.
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It's free!? Then you don't even have to ask. Anything is worth driving if the price paid is $0! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[JeffNJ]

Oh. Uhh. Nevermind then. I think I missed that part.

Well, for Christ's sake, if it's free, what's the problem? &nbsp;I drove a 1980 shit-brown Chevrolet Monte Carlo for a few months because it cost a buck. &nbsp;Did 0-60 in about twenty minutes. &nbsp;Of the 230 or so horses under the hood, I think half of them were dead and the other half were trying to free themselves from the engine block so they could kill me.

But, c'mon .. a dollar .. you don't have to think about decisions like that one. &nbsp;Besides, no one in their right mind would cut me off. &nbsp;=)

[DSC]

&quot;The del Sol is nothing more than a wonderfully executed project of comprimises, but it lacks Nissan's passion.&quot; Heh, I like that. &nbsp;So how are you getting it free, thats pretty cool...I wish I had got my 240 for free <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[keepitmovin]

Yea im getting it but just want to know what the 240 crowd thinks! I gotta stick with it for several months but ah well...

[mistert]

if its a DOHC VTEC model then its pretty cool, otherwise its a middleaged lesbian car, just like a miata, but FWD

[crazycuban]

haha why is everyone all about the miata being a woman car? &nbsp;imo, for the value, its one of the greatest sports cars ever produced...20k for a REAL sports car. &nbsp;did anyone see in option a couple months ago the miata with the RB26? &nbsp;####...

[whateverjames]

i'd take a del sol for free. if my dad worked at a ford dealership and could get me a mustang cobra, i'll take that over a 240sx, because it's free, and i'd get free parts. yes i'd run off the road and into a ditch when i try to push the limits like i would my 240sx but that's not the point <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> &nbsp;the point is the del sol is free and it has potential, drop in a new motor and a 5 speed if it needs it.

[whateverjames]

heh. that's funny people think that about miatas. obviously they've never been to an autocross. the one i went to they put everything to shame (lotus espirit, viper, z06's, and a 240sx, imprezzas).

i've seen a miata with a stock 302, and it still had near 50/50 weight. but the upgrade costed $20,000 with the cost of a used miata, i just couldn't pay that and only get a stock H.O. 5.0 mustang engine

[JeffNJ]

I will never speak ill of the Miata. &nbsp;It's a #### fine automobile. &nbsp;My mechanics have been racing and winning SCCA stuff for their wall for years. &nbsp;I just think I'd be more comfortable in the trunk of a neon with a GameBoy.

[JDM S13]

Well, I still have my Del Sol Vtec but I am selling it cause I just bought a 1990 S13 fastback <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> &nbsp;It was &nbsp;a tough decision, mainly cause I'm going from a car in perfect condition to an older car that needs more work and is much slower to start off with. &nbsp;The Sol pulled hard. &nbsp;I hit 15.1 in the 1/4 stock. &nbsp;It's loads of fun with the roof off, especially at night. &nbsp;But, it's FWD and I was getting tired of the girly look <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> &nbsp;I mean, it looks great, but I needed a change. &nbsp;And I was watching too much Initial D <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'> hehe

All I can say is that it will grow on you, but you will get tired of it eventually. &nbsp;It's a car with an age limit. &nbsp;If you are over 25 or just have a large build I think you'll look kinda funny in it!

oh well, enjoy it!

[LanceS13]

yeah...what's with the &nbsp;Miata=girlie car stuff? &nbsp;My friend's underprepared &nbsp;CSP Miata got fast time of the day at this Sunday's autoX.

[vancouvers14]

well, to me, the miata is a girlie car cause i cant fit in it.

the del sol is good, but only if you get the dohc vtec. &nbsp;i had one for a bit. &nbsp;without the dohc, prepare to lose in every race

[BlankFlip]

well, i've heard a lot of ppl say 240's r chick cars.

[alchemist]

The del sol is great.....but the stopped making it for a reason, &nbsp;Honda didnt seal the car very well, &nbsp;many older Del Sols have water leaks that are next to impossible to find and cause rust to form for no reason. &nbsp;But for free, you'd be an idiot not to take it, &nbsp;they are fun little cars

[JeffNJ]

The only people who call 240's girlie cars are 300 owners. &nbsp;And perhaps friends of 300 owners. &nbsp;Doesn't matter, they're all wrong. &nbsp;The 240 is not girlie. &nbsp;The del Sol is not girlie (unless it's a green automatic or something) and neither is the Miata.

A Volkswagon Cabrio is the ultimate chick car. &nbsp;Period.


ps: Not everyone buys a car to race it. &nbsp;I mean, I'm just sayin'...

[zephyr]

ive seen more girls in 300s than in 240s...fastbacks that is

[vancouvers14]

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[BlankFlip]

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haha, nice. i kinda like some hooked up jettas though.

[whateverjames]

i don't agree with the jeep wrangler part. preps drive those. &nbsp;miata? nah. &nbsp; bmw 3 series? come on now. sebring is a 40 yr old woman car. but what can i say, the votes were taken from the source :confused:

[s14vaxlr8]

funny you say that about the 300z and females, on a random occurance i saw 5 z32 on the way to work today, 3 were tt!!!!!!!!!!!!! all 5.....female drivers

[MyFirst240SX]

I test Drove a Del-Sol a while back before i got my 240, and it handled....ok, bout like any lil car really. &nbsp;But what makes me not like them is becuase i beat a Delsol in a 1989 F150. poor lil ricer

hey whateverjames, was that 302 a chevy 302? If it wasn't I don't see why it'd cost 20grand. Chevy 302's are badass engines, as compared to the Ford 302, which are well, Ford.

[MyFirst240SX]

I thought that chevy had a more common 305 5.0 engine and fords more common 5.0 engine was a 302<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>?
Domesticed rice burners we are

[ka24et]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from JeffNJ on 1:10 pm on Jan. 8, 2002
The only people who call 240's girlie cars are 300 owners. And perhaps friends of 300 owners. Doesn't matter, they're all wrong. The 240 is not girlie. The del Sol is not girlie (unless it's a green automatic or something) and neither is the Miata.
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Base model stock 240's are more commonly chick cars.

Not meaning to offend, but any small 2 seater (del sol, miata, audi TT) seems too cute for my tastes (girly?). I've ridden in them and they're fun, but doesn't intimidate anyone. Especially green as mentioned.

300 owners remind me of corvette owners. Some middle aged dude with a gut and a unbuttoned shirt showing off his gold chains on his hairy chest (eww) or a spoiled rich kid (like my brother). Of course these are my stereotypes. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[Takumi]

My old manager at my old job was an Asian mom who drives a 300ZX, stick with a stainless steel dual catback exhaust. Then again, she has a thirst for speed since her other car is a muscle car. @[email protected]

I also had a regional manager who was also an Asian woman who drives a red Del Sol equipped with front cross-drilled rotors and 15&quot; aftermarket wheels. She called it her &quot;putt-putt car&quot;. Her husband drives a GS-R. o_o

(Edited by Takumi at 7:41 pm on Jan. 8, 2002)

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from JeffNJ on 12<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>5 am on Jan. 8, 2002
Oh. Uhh. Nevermind then. I think I missed that part.

Well, for Christ's sake, if it's free, what's the problem? I drove a 1980 shit-brown Chevrolet Monte Carlo for a few months because it cost a buck. Did 0-60 in about twenty minutes. Of the 230 or so horses under the hood, I think half of them were dead and the other half were trying to free themselves from the engine block so they could kill me.

But, c'mon .. a dollar .. you don't have to think about decisions like that one. Besides, no one in their right mind would cut me off. =)
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roflmao!!!!!!!!!!

[whateverjames]

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hey whateverjames, was that 302 a chevy 302? If it wasn't I don't see why it'd cost 20grand. Chevy 302's are badass engines, as compared to the Ford 302, which are well, Ford.
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it was the ford 302. but the $20,000 was for the engine, the hardware to mount the engine, transmission, differential, the cost of the car, and labor....which still doesn't explain the $20,000 part!! hehe. it was done on an old miata, and not a 10 aniversery one. if they put the chevy 302 in there, that thing would fly. i wish i could find my article. i think it was a DOHC v8 high compression that made power up to 7500 (or was it 7200) either way, that's a motor they should have stuck with. &nbsp; &nbsp;the chevy 302 that is

(Edited by whateverjames at 12<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>7 pm on Jan. 9, 2002)

[NoTuchn]

drive the del sol, and just be happy you have a car. but start savin now, b/c when you do get a 240 youll think of more thing you wanna do to it than youd ever imagine. and dont expect the del sol to live up to it.

[tsunami0ne]

Miatas may be good for autoXing but.....

Man 1: &quot;What do you think of guys who drive Miatas?&quot;
Woman 1: &quot;A guy in a Miata is gay&quot;

This is a real response, but I'm not going to use real names. &nbsp;

[gschroeder78]

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300 owners remind me of corvette owners. Some middle aged dude with a gut and a unbuttoned shirt showing off his gold chains on his hairy chest (eww) or a spoiled rich kid (like my brother). Of course these are my stereotypes. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
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I own a 300ZX, I'm 23, can barely afford it and paid every for every cent of it, myself. But I have noticed that most of the 300ZX's I encounter on the highway and such are morons who think just cause we have the same car I have some obligation to race him through rush hour traffic. Just my observation and stereotype as well.

[Nismos14]

del sols are not bad they'd be much cooler if they were right wheel drive but o well

[Nismo240SX]

come on guys. don't dog the del-sol. my fellow teenager has good intentions. listen son. don't listen to what they say. theres a pimped del-sol in my home town. i mena pimped out to the max. hes the only real guy that sticks with me at our &quot;night races&quot;. i'll get a pic of it sometime for ya. i don't know. to pimp the del-sol out would be alot cheaper than it would a 240. simply because the 240 is truely real performance. and guys don't tell me to shut the #### up about hondas. i about bought a honda. but i say my 240 and dreamed of making passionate love with it. probably not yall, but i'm saying hondas are japanese,... so they're a distant cousin to us. don't dog them. well dude, i hope you like it.

[JeffNJ]

From their cars to their electronics to their food and quite frankly, even their women, I have yet to come across anything out of Japan I havn't liked. &nbsp;I'd move there, but the commute to my job here in Jersey (where I get to speak English) would really be a bitch.

[DJ Machine]

There's a REALLY nice looking Del Sol in this months HCI. (The one with the tricked out green(ish) malibu on the cover)

[keepitmovin]

Oh and how im getting it free, My dad builds signs. Like really big signs and Is made a deal to build a sign for a used car dealership to trade for a car. There is a del sol and an acoord 94 lx but i dunno which to get. I could get more money for the accord but I just feel ill have more fun in the sol.

[Tuck&Poke]

well if you get the del sol si thats not bad cause its got a 160hp engine and del sol's are light so i guess it would be zippy. &nbsp;only thing about del sols is that its a civic chassis with the roof cut. &nbsp;they didnt do to much chassis rienforcment so theres some chassis flex. &nbsp;a lot more than in a civic. &nbsp;other than that theyre ok cars

[JeffNJ]

With all the praises being sung about the del Sol here (ya know, everything from &quot;decent&quot; to &quot;acceptable&quot;), it's the obvious choice. &nbsp;I don't imagine such kind words being thrown the Accord's way.

I would like to say though, if the dealer is willing to give away the del Sol, odds are it isn't a DOHC VTEC. &nbsp;Those are worth more based on rarity alone. &nbsp;From my limited Honda board browsing, I've learned only the lowest model (S) bites. &nbsp;The VTEC (DOHC VTEC) and Si (SOHC VTEC) are both respectable. &nbsp;Or, at the very least, more so than an Accord would be.

However. &nbsp;Wait a minute. &nbsp;You're young. &nbsp;Do your friends have licenses, or are you amoung the first of the bunch? &nbsp;If you can't ditch carpool duties, you may have to consider passenger space.

You're right. &nbsp;Make their mom drive 'em. &nbsp;Get the del Sol.

[JeffNJ]

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well if you get the del sol si thats not bad cause its got a 160hp engine and del sol's are light so i guess it would be zippy. only thing about del sols is that its a civic chassis with the roof cut. they didnt do to much chassis rienforcment so theres some chassis flex. a lot more than in a civic. other than that theyre ok cars
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http://msn.carpoint.com

The del Sol came with three trim levels: The barely adequate &quot;S&quot; with a shade over a hundred horses, the &quot;Si&quot; with about 125 or so, and the &quot;VTEC&quot; (even though the Si is also a VTEC engine anyway, but with SOHC instead of DOHC) with the full 160. &nbsp;

However, simple math...

100hp / $0 = infinate hp gained per dollar spent
125hp / $0 = infinate hp gained per dollar spent
160hp / $0 = infinate hp gained per dollar spent

...shows that in this case, they're all pretty much the same.

[Takumi]

If you already have a 240SX, then you obviously know that car only fits one other passenger and a midget. If you're planning to give rides to some friends while having an economical and reliable ride, go with the Accord LX and just drive that car as is. However, if you're not the one who likes giving rides, get the Del Sol and use it as a daily driver or something while you work on your 240SX or while it's in the shop.

Either way, if you have big plans for your 240SX and that's your only daily driver, then either car is fine. Or you can sell the car in the classifieds and use that money. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

[keepitmovin]

Im planning to sell whatever i get eventually and save up for a s14. But its gonna be hard for me to go without a car agian while i look for a good s14. I just see the del sol as a fun car more than the accord at least. But the accord has a good resale value.

[ka24et]

Just a FYI, the 94 LX accord has the same bolt pattern (4x114.3) as s13's or base model s14's. If you were smart about it, you could get some rims that fit on the accord and then eventually transfer them onto your future 240SX. Just make sure to get an offset and rim size that will look decent once it's on the 240.

Rims aside, I would get the accord myself. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

(Edited by ka24et at 12<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>6 am on Jan. 11, 2002)

[keepitmovin]

OH who cares about friends just me and my girl. Most of them drive. Yea I think if its a &quot;S&quot; #### no, can you tell me more about the rims and what i need to know?