the z32 caliper powder coated thread (colors)

[rainvelazquez]

So not sure if there's a thread about this cuz i could not find it but
Let's see your z32 ect. Calipers powder coated/paint jobs
Also if you know the color name it
This is to see your creativity and for me to get an idea after I rebuild my calipers (z32)

[delado]

I like the idea of this thread.

[viksz33]

In for the pics!

[rainvelazquez]

In for the pics!

Yes agreed^ let's start the pics guys :aw:

[sidewayz240]

Candy Teal

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b118/sidewayz240/DSC02062.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b118/sidewayz240/DSC02064.jpg

Letters are polished now.

[Kevin_S14]

subscribed! and quick question, any problems if you were to just have them painted instead of powdercoatted?

[rainvelazquez]

subscribed! and quick question, any problems if you were to just have them painted instead of powdercoatted?

Make sure its heat resistant paint . A lot of people powder coat cuz it resists heat or holds up then regular paint

[colombianbryan]

im looking to get mine that brembo gunmetal color! im excited for this thread :)

[Turbo Nismo]

Candy Teal



Letters are polished now.
Sick blue. My fav color.

[rainvelazquez]

For those that have gotten there powder coat how many options do they give u in colors ???

[S14kouki_10]

Got mine charcoal, didn't want nothing too flashy.
http://i50.tinypic.com/acbiw0.jpg

[hobbs]

Shitty Iphone picture but black starlight:

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/551162_3133747699630_1142910621_32913477_126310620 3_n.jpg

[SoulAmazing]

in for pics! black starlight looks dope

[Drose]

You can buy any color imaginable from this place.
Powder Coating Powder-Powder Coating Colors-Powder Coating Paint (http://www.powderbuythepound.com/Temp._Controlled_Powders/)

[upsdude]

color: black lava from powerderbuythepound
did the coating in my garage

took the calipers apart and removed all the pistons and seals-was scary at first but it's not really a big deal. IMO coating the calipers looks better when you do the halves separately; kinda like a car's paint job looks better when you remove the windows vs. just masking them. but that's just me

http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/ss23/ekfanatic/build3.jpg
http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/ss23/ekfanatic/build31.jpg

some important things to remember if you're gonna coat yourself:


-make sure the part temperature is at the required heat, not the oven; invest in an infrared thermometer gun
-brake cleaner will soften the coating if you let it sit-which will make the finish look dull...it's like pouring thinner on paint so be careful
-have a good ground to make sure the powder sticks to the metal
-powder sticks the best when your part is as clean as possible so take the extra time to do good prep work, prebake the part to burn off any leftover cleaning residue

some useful sites:
http://www.caswellplating.com/
www.eastwood.com
www.powderbuythepound.com

not only can you buy powder and powder equipment but they have useful forums to do research. and i'd suggest a coat of clear to help preserve the color...unless you're going with wrinkle

[WERDdabuilder]

black sparkle or whatever color they had to choose from.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v407/drewdabuilder/IMG_0296.jpg

Concept Powder Coating in rancho cucamonga. 80$ for both. quick and good people.

[ALEXTHESUS*PECT]

please post where you had this done too, if a shop did it for you.

[stance]

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j223/sillylen/25a6738f.jpg

"super durable white" done by my local powdercoater

[rainvelazquez]

Top choices are candy purple candy rassberry or candy tiel

[ixfxi]

amateur night guys

taking apart the halves is risky and troublesome. all good, you'll all find out in due time. if you restore them, dont do a fully disassembly... only the pistons

[conrad_s13.5]

i could see this thread lasting a little longer if it wasnt limited to just z32 calipers

[93_ProjectS13]

When buying your own powder how much do you get for front+rears?

[Broadfield]

White powder coating with black and gold chromate zinc plated hardware.

http://images56.fotki.com/v371/photos/4/47612/3915226/IMG_5844-vi.jpg

http://images15.fotki.com/v587/photos/4/47612/3915226/IMG_3969-vi.jpg


Fronts are Stoptechs, but I used the same process:

http://images57.fotki.com/v647/photos/4/47612/3915226/IMG_5803-vi.jpg

http://images55.fotki.com/v659/photos/4/47612/3915226/IMG_8689-vi.jpg

http://images58.fotki.com/v154/photos/4/47612/3915226/IMG_3975-vi.jpg



Here is all of the hardware that I plated for the fronts and rears:

The 2-piece rotor hat hardware I did in a zinc yellow chromate:

http://images56.fotki.com/v1298/photos/4/47612/3915226/IMG_3951-vi.jpg

As seen in the pic below, I originally did the rear bolts/pins in gold and was going to paint them in a high temp black. But then I discovered black chromate. So I stripped the bolts and pins for the rears back down then zinc plated them again and dipped them in black chromate.

http://images116.fotki.com/v618/photos/4/47612/3915226/IMG_3938-vi.jpg

So this is the black chromate on the Stoptech bolts and crossover lines. They are wet looking because they get a final bath in WD-40 to seal them.

http://images56.fotki.com/v1298/photos/4/47612/3915226/IMG_3955-vi.jpg

http://images57.fotki.com/v1354/photos/4/47612/3915226/IMG_3962-vi.jpg

[daftphunk]

Sick.
So if you want to paint or powdercoat, remove everything, but will it be necessary for a complete rebuild of all new parts? i.e. pistons and seals, or just seals?

[PeaceOnesxWai]

Sick.
So if you want to paint or powdercoat, remove everything, but will it be necessary for a complete rebuild of all new parts? i.e. pistons and seals, or just seals?

Yea, best to remove all bolts and take out the piston. You have to get new seals because they will melt in the powdercoating process. I can imagine taking out a melted seal w/piston would be a b%$!h

[waxball88]

Candy Teal




Letters are polished now.
MOTHER FUCKER.
I have 1lb aluminum metallic and 1lb translucent candy teal :(
Reserved for mine

[gearhead55]

This is the only picture i have of my Z32 brakes at the moment. just powdercoated red. They look pretty good i think:

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz329/gearhead55/s13brakes.jpg

[Touge Whore]

I'm glad there is a thread like this now...I was just starting to think how I wanted to coat mine when I rebuild them...sick colors so far!

[Jonathong]

definitely subscribed to the thread, great color choices so far!

[rainvelazquez]

Since were here can some one make a rebuild write up step by step cuz I seen some but a detailed step by step would be awesome and Wat kinda lubes are used n stuff I mean since some after seeing this thread will want to powder coat n since its pretty much a must or a good idea to rebuild after a powder coat thought it help us all i having more pics up later
I'm actually taking my rears apart n rebulding after i get them powder coated ill show them up once I get them back

[WERDdabuilder]

Since were here can some one make a rebuild write up step by step cuz I seen some but a detailed step by step would be awesome and Wat kinda lubes are used n stuff I mean since some after seeing this thread will want to powder coat n since its pretty much a must or a good idea to rebuild after a powder coat thought it help us all i having more pics up later
I'm actually taking my rears apart n rebulding after i get them powder coated ill show them up once I get them back

its pretty straight forward. dont need to take your calipers apart. remove piston by blowing air into it. i put a piece of wood between the pistons so the pistons didnt pop all the way out. make it easier for the other pistons to move out also. remove old seals/boot/rings. replace with new ones. probably takes less then 30min to do.

googling should come up with enough answers for rebuilding.

you can order the kit from
Brake Caliper Rebuild Kits (http://www.z1motorsports.com/product_info.php?products_id=3366)
everything you need comes with it.

[2iv0 sx]

amateur night guys

taking apart the halves is risky and troublesome. all good, you'll all find out in due time. if you restore them, dont do a fully disassembly... only the pistons

Do tell...

Here's one recently. Right or wrong way?
http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/447190-definitive-z23-front-brake-rebuild-thread.html

[revat619]

From my old car....some random high temp gold paint from auto zone and red touch up paint for the letters. Cheap, but I thought it was pretty cool. Gonna powdercoat this time around though.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y34/revat619/DSCF2739.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y34/revat619/DSCF2734.jpg

[WERDdabuilder]

Do tell...

Here's one recently. Right or wrong way?
http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/447190-definitive-z23-front-brake-rebuild-thread.html

you cant get new o-rings from the dealer if say...you fuck them up(they expand/etc). and i believe the fsm says you shouldnt take them apart. so that shit isnt necessary. someone correct me if im wrong.

[dudermagee]

wrinkle black.
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6148/6202164545_4724d03f26.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6202164545/)
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6168/6202150681_2b646ce9be.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6202150681/)

[PeaceOnesxWai]

I want to see more pics of painted calipers installed on cars.. Also this thread should be powdercoated brake calipers instead of just specifically Z32 brakes

[rainvelazquez]

I want to see more pics of painted calipers installed on cars.. Also this thread should be powdercoated brake calipers instead of just specifically Z32 brakes

yeah it dont have to be z32 but i was guessing most would have z32
keep the pics coming

[mxexux]

Damn, I just sold my car that I had powder coated Z32 front calipers on. Powder coating was orange. I'll see if I can find a pic...

[Brian]

http://bhworld.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/1101081543.jpg

gold spraypaint and a red paint marker.

painted them ON the car. BALLER> picture me rollin.

(backside of the calipers arent even painted. lol)

[Broadfield]

(backside of the calipers arent even painted. lol)

... not so BALLER:D

[tricky_ab]

I need to look for a place locally to do my Evo Brembo's...I'm thinking Porsche yellow...

[Broadfield]

I need to look for a place locally to do my Evo Brembo's...I'm thinking Porsche yellow...

What color is your car, I forget... white?

[rainvelazquez]

Hey guys i was wondering how the prices for powder coating go
Is the price for each/set of calipers
Want to get an idea of how much ill be spending

[Broadfield]

Hey guys i was wondering how the prices for powder coating go
Is the price for each/set of calipers
Want to get an idea of how much ill be spending

The more you need done the more it cost... pretty much like anything in life. And prices will vary greatly between locations and regions. So it's not going to do you any good to find out what other people have paid. Just go into your local powder coating joint and ask them for a rough quote. I guarantee you they have done calipers before and should be able to give you an idea of what you are looking at.

[rainvelazquez]

The more you need done the more it cost... pretty much like anything in life. And prices will vary greatly between locations and regions. So it's not going to do you any good to find out what other people have paid. Just go into your local powder coating joint and ask them for a rough quote. I guarantee you they have done calipers before and should be able to give you an idea of what you are looking at.

Will do thanks

[ixfxi]

see guys, this is what happens when you get too many posts -- too much bullshit. Example below:

Yea, best to remove all bolts and take out the piston. You have to get new seals because they will melt in the powdercoating process. I can imagine taking out a melted seal w/piston would be a b%$!h

Seriously? Use your head and think how hot brakes get, they get way hotter than the 300-400°F which is what powdercoaters cook their parts at. Caliper seals are all capable of those temperatures.


you cant get new o-rings from the dealer if say...you fuck them up(they expand/etc). and i believe the fsm says you shouldnt take them apart. so that shit isnt necessary. someone correct me if im wrong.

Correcto, the caliper halves should never be disassembled. Not to say I havent made that mistake (maybe 10 years ago?). Some calipers did come apart, others sheared the threads as the bolts tend to seize inside the caliper. Again, NOT worth the hassle.

The piston seals & dust boots, you can remove. No sense in being a miser about that since most people overhaul them during rebuild.

Damn... I never thought I'de be the smart guy around here. Shows you that even idiots like me can know something if you do it long enough.

[blacksmith]

http://bhworld.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/1101081543.jpg

gold spraypaint and a red paint marker.

painted them ON the car. BALLER> picture me rollin.

(backside of the calipers arent even painted. lol)

What calipers are these? R32 GT-R? Call me a hipster but I don't like how z32 calipers have "ribs" on them, for lack of a better term. Purely cosmetic but I prefer the smooth look like this.

[Brian]

B.I.N.G.O.

R32 GTR calipers and rotors (brand new Nissan rotors, actually)

These look so much cooler than any of the Z32 brakes.

HOT BRAKES. HOT LOOKS.

clearcorners.com

[joshchewuhh]

http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b467/joshchewuhh/tumblr_ly6u7uhbvH1qjfdnn-1.jpg

autozone caliper spray

[Lugged]

Correcto, the caliper halves should never be disassembled. Not to say I havent made that mistake (maybe 10 years ago?). Some calipers did come apart, others sheared the threads as the bolts tend to seize inside the caliper. Again, NOT worth the hassle.

The piston seals & dust boots, you can remove. No sense in being a miser about that since most people overhaul them during rebuild.

Damn... I never thought I'de be the smart guy around here. Shows you that even idiots like me can know something if you do it long enough.

So what's the long term consequences of this? I'm just curious because I just rebuilt my caliper lol...

[Backintoans13]

Digging this thread :cool: here are mine, pics is hard to take of the color, they sometime come out blue but they purple :cool:

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p264/driftking180sx/240sx/387676f6.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p264/driftking180sx/240sx/dc996022.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p264/driftking180sx/240sx/8b6f8299.jpg

[Hoffman5982]

http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b467/joshchewuhh/tumblr_ly6u7uhbvH1qjfdnn-1.jpg

autozone caliper spray

What color exactly? Looks a bit more intense than the gold

[az_240]

Splitting the z32 caliper to powdercoat shouldn't be a problem... as mentioned you can get the entire rebuild kit including the rubber seals you need after splitting them in half here
Front Brake Caliper Rebuild Kit (http://www.z1motorsports.com/product_info.php?products_id=715)

Shouldn't be a problem if you want to keep them together either.

Anyone use clear coat on their calipers and NOT have it yellow? All the ones I've tried have yellowed and flake.

[Tuloabe617]

Digging this thread :cool: here are mine, pics is hard to take of the color, they sometime come out blue but they purple :cool:

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p264/driftking180sx/240sx/387676f6.jpg.....

I am actually planning on doing something very similar to this. Looks great! Do you know the color name/code? Do you have any pictures of the whole car with them installed? Thanks in advance!

[Nintensity]

Splitting the z32 caliper to powdercoat shouldn't be a problem... as mentioned you can get the entire rebuild kit including the rubber seals you need after splitting them in half here
Front Brake Caliper Rebuild Kit (http://www.z1motorsports.com/product_info.php?products_id=715)

Shouldn't be a problem if you want to keep them together either.

Anyone use clear coat on their calipers and NOT have it yellow? All the ones I've tried have yellowed and flake.

I wonder if they have a rear brake caliper rebuild kit too... I couldnt find it on the site

[Backintoans13]

Not trying to say other ppl in here are wrong BUT....there is NOTHING wrong with separating the calipers. Have rebuilt quite a few z32 calipers and my brembo calipers on my old 350z. Worked great!!! Lots of ppl will say don't separate em but for those that have, I'm sure they can confirm also there isn't anything wrong with them, work perfectly fine after you put em back together. Just sayin... :cool:

[Backintoans13]

I am actually planning on doing something very similar to this. Looks great! Do you know the color name/code? Do you have any pictures of the whole car with them installed? Thanks in advance!

Sorry boss...dont have any at the time, still doing my suspension build so cars still on jack stands, wheels and tires should go on in a couple of weeks :cool: as far as color goes I'll have to get the website that my powder coater goes to but I know that it's a candy purple, like I said, don't have an official ordering # or anything but just ask for a candy purple with your powder coater :cool:

[Backintoans13]

I wonder if they have a rear brake caliper rebuild kit too... I couldnt find it on the site

I always get my front rebuild kit from courtesyparts.com When I first rebuilt my z32 calipers yrs ago they also sold the rear rebuild kit, havent been able to find a set for quite sometime now, if you have any luck finding some please
post where you got em!!!

[Edwin562]

I bought my rebuilt kit at Napa on my first set of Z brakes. 25-30 bucks for fronts. Ikinda regret selling my calipers but i had to.:smash:

[ixfxi]

Not trying to say other ppl in here are wrong BUT....there is NOTHING wrong with separating the calipers. Have rebuilt quite a few z32 calipers and my brembo calipers on my old 350z. Worked great!!! Lots of ppl will say don't separate em but for those that have, I'm sure they can confirm also there isn't anything wrong with them, work perfectly fine after you put em back together. Just sayin... :cool:

and i believe the fsm says you shouldnt take them apart. so that shit isnt necessary. someone correct me if im wrong.

backintoan, just because you did something doesnt mean its correct/advisable. i have done the same in the past, many calipers removed alum material from the caliper when disassembled due to the bolts seizing. i have not done 2-5 pairs, i've rebuilt maybe 40 pairs of calipers over the years. i stopped disassembling the halves a LONG time ago, not worth the risks of stripping the aluminum.

FSM says things for a reason, i'de have to say that the FSM in almost all cases is correct. furthermore, what specs are you using for torque values? all of this matters.

bottom line, not disassembling the halves is LESS work and perfectly reliable. to-date, i have NEVER heard of one caliper halve leaking. has anyone seen this before?

[Ka24Power]

B.I.N.G.O.

R32 GTR calipers and rotors (brand new Nissan rotors, actually)

These look so much cooler than any of the Z32 brakes.

HOT BRAKES. HOT LOOKS.

clearcorners.com

Unnhhhh Same setup as me, no fancy red lettering though.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5312/6951923956_4c09405a99_z.jpg

[Hoffman5982]

Do they cost more?

[usdm180sx]

Yes they do. They're considered an upgrade for the z32

[Hoffman5982]

How much of an upgrade? How do they compare to say 350z brembos?

[revat619]

How much of an upgrade? How do they compare to say 350z brembos?

They're definitely smaller than 350Z brembos and they cost less too, but still a decent upgrade.

[Nintensity]

I always get my front rebuild kit from courtesyparts.com When I first rebuilt my z32 calipers yrs ago they also sold the rear rebuild kit, havent been able to find a set for quite sometime now, if you have any luck finding some please
post where you got em!!!

I realized I can get them all here:

Brake Caliper Rebuild Kits (http://www.z1motorsports.com/product_info.php?products_id=3366)

[ixfxi]

Yes they do. They're considered an upgrade for the z32

How much of an upgrade? How do they compare to say 350z brembos?

i never considered them a worth-while option because like most Z32 owners, most GTR owners have always told me negative things about the OE brakes.

do they work well on S-chassis? i would say yes. How much better than Z32? probably not much.

[usdm180sx]

Well, the rotors are 296mm and 32mm thick so they have more swept area and the vanes are canted so they suck air through them. Coooling is def more efficient than z32 brakes. I could see how the R32 gt-r could make them fade faster because of the extra weight. I had them on my s14 and never had brake fade issues. I don't know how they compare to 350z brembos coz I never looked into those.

[Nintensity]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/525796_10150860717371425_512486424_12272429_806449 792_n.jpg

I'm not sure whether or not I should split my calipers in half before powdercoat. Therefore the bolts will be powdercoated during the process. I guess it's not a big deal since the bolts are facing the back of the calipers, it wouldn't really matter.

I'm still in the process of sanding my other rear caliper since the previous owner spraypainted it black using shitty paint (it's chipping off.) i'd figure that sanding the front of the caliper only and leaving the back as-is should be okay, since the front will only show...

I don't know, What do you think I should do?

[k.man]

I'm still in the process of sanding my other rear caliper since the previous owner spraypainted it black using shitty paint (it's chipping off.) i'd figure that sanding the front of the caliper only and leaving the back as-is should be okay, since the front will only show...

I don't know, What do you think I should do?

Why don't you get the powder coating guys to sandblast the calipers..

and the whole issue about separating the calipers. IMO id just leave them together because I have aluminum ones and aluminum material at times can be hassle if handled improperly plus I'm really anal when it comes to bolting shit back up to FSM torque specs.

hopefully the inner seals holds up to the oven temperature the coating guys put it through.

oh and just to give a little idea about pricing. I gave my local powder coating guys in toronto a call and they gave me this:

$20 per caliper using their black paint.

he told me to come in and get a quote for custom colours.

[slowvia]

I like where this is going!
For a cheap fix I'm pretty sure you can get caliper specific paint for cheap at the local auto parts store.
And as far as splitting the calipers to paint them, it really is entirely unnecessary. You can paint them just as well put together as you can split in half, might as well just save yourself the extra time and leave em together. Is there any harm in taking them apart? I couldn't really tell you, but will keeping them together save you time and yield the same results? Yup.

[Om1kron]

please read the whole thread instead of turning this into a questions thread, and OP you should start quoting good information and putting it in the first post so all of the herp derps of zilvia will not ask a question that has been BEAT TO DEATH on page 2 of this thread in page 3.

[az_240]

I'm still in the process of sanding my other rear caliper since the previous owner spraypainted it black using shitty paint (it's chipping off.) i'd figure that sanding the front of the caliper only and leaving the back as-is should be okay, since the front will only show...

I don't know, What do you think I should do?

Sanding to strip old paint off calipers has to suck...

If you can't get them sandblasted why not mask the rubber pieces and use paint stripper?
That's what I always use... just make sure you use the stuff outside with a breeze. It's pretty toxic.

[Mesarina]

Translucent Blue on Sandblasted Aluminum castings...


http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l299/Mesarina/180sx/Brake%20upgrade/IMG_2265.jpg


http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l299/Mesarina/180sx/Brake%20upgrade/IMG_3011.jpg

[ixfxi]

i would say that your calipers look nice if it wasnt for those shitty wheel adapters and bullshit washer/dryer exhaust flex pipe thats fucking zip-tied and crunched like a chewed on straw

[Backintoans13]

I'm sure someone else can chime in but I haven't dealt with a powder coater locally or online that will even attempt to powder coat calipers unless tooken apart completely. Every company I have dealt with have specifically asked to have the calipers broken down. Again.... no one is right or wrong on whether calipers should be seperated or not but I've done em whether iron or aluminum, majority of them aluminum and will continue to do em, to each his own :cool:

[ixfxi]

I'm sure someone else can chime in but I haven't dealt with a powder coater locally or online that will even attempt to powder coat calipers unless tooken apart completely. Every company I have dealt with have specifically asked to have the calipers broken down. Again.... no one is right or wrong on whether calipers should be seperated or not but I've done em whether iron or aluminum, majority of them aluminum and will continue to do em, to each his own :cool:

you know

its almost like this forum has mentally retarded individuals on it.

i asked the questions, no one answered. instead of having a technical discussion with facts, we get idiots repeating the same gaddamn thing.

ITS ALREADY STATED IN THE FSM - DO NOT DISASSEMBLE THE CALIPERS

WHEN YOU DISASSEMBLE THE HALVES, YOU RISK STRIPPING THREADS DUE TO BINDING THE ALUM W/ STEEL BOLTS

WHEN YOU DISASSEMBLE, WE DONT HAVE PROPER TORQUE VALUES

no one seems to give a fuck or answer these questions. powdercoaters are no different than fucking painters, are they engineers? no, they fucking sand-blast, spray, and heat things... thats their job.

FYI, I've spoken to Brembo direct about disassembling their calipers and they dont even suggest taking the pistons apart. I think thats a bit far-fetched, but it should be common sense based on the above risks that disassembling the halves is not a good idea.

Now, how hard is it to soak them in solvent, then air blast the channels to ensure the brake fluid is removed from them? not hard at all.


stupid idiots

[Nintensity]

I just sent my z32 calipers in to get sandblasted and powdercoated! Now the waiting begins :)

I'm thinking a mint-green (seafoam green) color! Hope it looks good!

[usdm180sx]

you know

its almost like this forum has mentally retarded individuals on it.

i asked the questions, no one answered. instead of having a technical discussion with facts, we get idiots repeating the same gaddamn thing.

ITS ALREADY STATED IN THE FSM - DO NOT DISASSEMBLE THE CALIPERS

WHEN YOU DISASSEMBLE THE HALVES, YOU RISK STRIPPING THREADS DUE TO BINDING THE ALUM W/ STEEL BOLTS

WHEN YOU DISASSEMBLE, WE DONT HAVE PROPER TORQUE VALUES

no one seems to give a fuck or answer these questions. powdercoaters are no different than fucking painters, are they engineers? no, they fucking sand-blast, spray, and heat things... thats their job.

FYI, I've spoken to Brembo direct about disassembling their calipers and they dont even suggest taking the pistons apart. I think thats a bit far-fetched, but it should be common sense based on the above risks that disassembling the halves is not a good idea.

Now, how hard is it to soak them in solvent, then air blast the channels to ensure the brake fluid is removed from them? not hard at all.


stupid idiots

LOL awesome. Reading skillz ftw

[Ka24Power]

Y'all are a bunch of pussies if you're afraid to disassemble.

I've taken apart 4 sets, rebuilt and powder coated, and run on my own car. Why do you think rebuild kits are available..?

Also - if you follow the "don't disassemble" that the FSM preaches then you better make sure your camber, caster, toe don't go out of spec.

[waxball88]

Y'all are a bunch of pussies if you're afraid to disassemble.

I've taken apart 4 sets, rebuilt and powder coated, and run on my own car. Why do you think rebuild kits are available..?

Also - if you follow the "don't disassemble" that the FSM preaches then you better make sure your camber, caster, toe don't go out of spec.
You can easily rebuild it all together...

[usdm180sx]

Since when does anyone on zilvia follow the fsm? They all use zipties. So what, take them apart because yolo? lol

[ch1873857]

you know

its almost like this forum has mentally retarded individuals on it.

i asked the questions, no one answered. instead of having a technical discussion with facts, we get idiots repeating the same gaddamn thing.

ITS ALREADY STATED IN THE FSM - DO NOT DISASSEMBLE THE CALIPERS

WHEN YOU DISASSEMBLE THE HALVES, YOU RISK STRIPPING THREADS DUE TO BINDING THE ALUM W/ STEEL BOLTS

WHEN YOU DISASSEMBLE, WE DONT HAVE PROPER TORQUE VALUES

no one seems to give a fuck or answer these questions. powdercoaters are no different than fucking painters, are they engineers? no, they fucking sand-blast, spray, and heat things... thats their job.

FYI, I've spoken to Brembo direct about disassembling their calipers and they dont even suggest taking the pistons apart. I think thats a bit far-fetched, but it should be common sense based on the above risks that disassembling the halves is not a good idea.

Now, how hard is it to soak them in solvent, then air blast the channels to ensure the brake fluid is removed from them? not hard at all.


stupid idiots

are you done posting this bullshit yet?
for those that need graphical representation of what hes trying to say

http://www.300zx-twinturbo.com/s.manual/br/013.gif


on the flipside. nissan sells rebuild kits for these including the o rings that go in between the 2 halves so.......

oh and stfu about brembo what does that have anything to do with oem nissan shit?

[Backintoans13]

Y'all are a bunch of pussies if you're afraid to disassemble.

I've taken apart 4 sets, rebuilt and powder coated, and run on my own car. Why do you think rebuild kits are available..?

Also - if you follow the "don't disassemble" that the FSM preaches then you better make sure your camber, caster, toe don't go out of spec.


Bro....that ixfxi character has built hundreds of calipers not just a couple so your four sets don't mean shit, neither do the sets that I have built lol what I do know is that none of my disassembled rebuilt calipers have ever failed on me....just sayin :cool:

[Broadfield]

Bro....that ixfxi is a character

He is a character, that much we can be sure of:)

[Mesarina]

i would say that your calipers look nice if it wasnt for those shitty wheel adapters and bullshit washer/dryer exhaust flex pipe thats fucking zip-tied and crunched like a chewed on straw

I got the car with the wheels spacers already, now I have mb battles with 5 lug conversion without spacers and z33 discs in the front... the "washer/drye" was used for cooling my brakes, I actually race the car, not just drifting, showing, parking stuff...

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/405446_10151231328015655_581220654_22999105_266558 149_n.jpg

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/405906_10151231329415655_581220654_22999117_221274 623_n.jpg

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/251527_10150606636475655_581220654_19064399_372281 _n.jpg


this was with the spacers and the wheels that came with the car..

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/254299_10150606538690655_581220654_19063151_254484 7_n.jpg

[RedSiBaron]

those are some of the best pictures ive seen on this website in a long long time...Way to get out there and use the car for road racing.


btw, youre off line in the second picture haha (just giving you shit, not trying to be mean)

[Mesarina]

those are some of the best pictures ive seen on this website in a long long time...Way to get out there and use the car for road racing.


btw, youre off line in the second picture haha (just giving you shit, not trying to be mean)

lol.. Thanks, I did took apart the calipers for painting..

[ixfxi]

are you done posting this bullshit yet?
for those that need graphical representation of what hes trying to say
on the flipside. nissan sells rebuild kits for these including the o rings that go in between the 2 halves so.......oh and stfu about brembo what does that have anything to do with oem nissan shit?

i never found a part number for the caliper halve o-rings, post it up. there are vendors that sell them but I believe they just found some viton seals off of mcmaster or something like that.

what does brembo have to do with oem nissan shit? well fuck-face, considering brembo makes calipers for a good majority of OE applications, i'de say their advice should be listened to. Who makes the OE z32 calipers? Sumitomo. Who makes the OE z33 track calipers? Brembo. NISSAN sells rebuild kits for both z32 and z33 calipers, but never the halve o-rings.

anyway, its stupid.. we're getting hung on details and idiots here will never listen to advice. I believe I made a mistake taking a few pairs apart years ago, and I admit it. Stubborn idiots here wont ever admit shit.


He is a character, that much we can be sure of:)

"Just because you ARE a character, doesnt mean you HAVE character"

[Broadfield]

Best movie of all time!

[usdm180sx]

Stubborn idiots here wont ever admit shit.

^THIS. All day long on here

[kenshinS14sks]

http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b467/joshchewuhh/tumblr_ly6u7uhbvH1qjfdnn-1.jpg

autozone caliper spray

hey is this the guy that i met at song's alignment a few weeks back? im the guy with the s14 doing the suspension work there (still have the subframe spacers btw)

calipers look clean in person...i also asked him about it funny how this thread was started

[Hoffman5982]

^I wish he'd reply with what exact color he used. It looks good

[420sx]

the reason manufacturers state "DO NO DISASSEMBLE" is because of legality issues. Yes, if you take calipers apart and then put them together and crash you can potentially sue them. By telling you not to do something, they put a barrier in case of a lawsuit. However, if you are not an idiot, and do the research and do it right you will be ok. Will I do it? No. I will mask it off, sandblast and paint. why? because i dont give a fuck to do extra work and I can paint/dip it the way i want and it will hold up to heat.

Now, said that, Its perfectly ok to reseal the calipers and many recycle companies that rebuild calipers do it. Another reason they dont want you to DISASSEMBLE is because this will force you to buy another functioning pair from the manufacturer, or if you are getting your brake serviced, the shop will have to do that. Its a legality business decision. Does that mean you cant do it? no and please feel free to do so at your own risk. You people are arguing over a moo point.

Hey, they dont recommend you change stock settings on your suspension on a car, do they? or how about removing airbags? same issue.

p.s. some nice looking calipers here in this thread. however, this is all too much work and its just easier to paint ;)

[ch1873857]

i never found a part number for the caliper halve o-rings, post it up. there are vendors that sell them but I believe they just found some viton seals off of mcmaster or something like that.



true statement. did a little looking around. never paid attention to that minor detail. which is blatenly obvious with this company
Brake Caliper Rebuild Kits (http://www.z1motorsports.com/product_info.php?products_id=3366)

what does brembo have to do with oem nissan shit? well fuck-face, considering brembo makes calipers for a good majority of OE applications, i'de say their advice should be listened to. Who makes the OE z32 calipers? Sumitomo. Who makes the OE z33 track calipers? Brembo. NISSAN sells rebuild kits for both z32 and z33 calipers, but never the halve o-rings.


other than the fact that you sound like a pissed off pre-teen, i can see where you are coming from but still. your comparing apples to oranges. they are both fruit but they are not the same thing. just because nissan sells a rebuild kit for the sumitomo caliper and the brembo caliper, both without the o rings, doesnt necessarily mean their rebuild process is the same. yes minor details big whoop. dont take what i say about of context to make an argument. were talking about z32 calipers. so i should have put "what does brembo have to do with z32 calipers? "

talking about people not admitting shit is truth. its funny though. ill admit. my whole reason for visiting this thread is because my brother bought some R33 calipers that were beat up and wanted powdercoated. he didnt look in the FSM but looked at a write-up on another forum. He asked me if it seemed legit and i said sure, it would be ok. Never heard that it wasn't. thats why i did reference the FSM and posted it.

[ixfxi]

the reason manufacturers state "DO NO DISASSEMBLE" is because of legality issues. Yes, if you take calipers apart and then put them together and crash you can potentially sue them. By telling you not to do something, they put a barrier in case of a lawsuit. However, if you are not an idiot, and do the research and do it right you will be ok. Will I do it? No. I will mask it off, sandblast and paint. why? because i dont give a fuck to do extra work and I can paint/dip it the way i want and it will hold up to heat.

Now, said that, Its perfectly ok to reseal the calipers and many recycle companies that rebuild calipers do it. Another reason they dont want you to DISASSEMBLE is because this will force you to buy another functioning pair from the manufacturer, or if you are getting your brake serviced, the shop will have to do that. Its a legality business decision. Does that mean you cant do it? no and please feel free to do so at your own risk. You people are arguing over a moo point.

Hey, they dont recommend you change stock settings on your suspension on a car, do they? or how about removing airbags? same issue.

p.s. some nice looking calipers here in this thread. however, this is all too much work and its just easier to paint ;)

I dont know why you people are so stupid... I didnt want to do it, but while rummaging through my m10 bolt container I found this old Z32 caliper bolt:

http://www.clearcorners.com/temp/z32_bolt.jpg

And THAT is one of the many reasons why the FSM states NOT to disassemble the caliper halves, the pistons themselves are perfectly serviceable.


Best movie of all time!

Good to know that I'm not the only person who remembers these things.

[ch1873857]

hate to say it but im completely with ixfxi on this one.. i ran into this problem on a customers full race turbo kit - 06 civic si. i had to replace all the transmission bolts in that bitch because of exactly what he just posted. old steel bolts in soft aluminum calipers

** Also want to add.. I know with our powder coater. they like to sand blast everything. including our threads. i have to thread chase everything it seems like! i would highly recommend thread chasing the bolts AND the calipers. a little antiseize wouldnt hurt either.. you should be ok.

Nice post btw ixfxi.. i like that.

[hotlavaflow]

I have some valve cover bolts in my bin that look like that, I guess I should never remove the valve cover as well. :drama:

[ixfxi]

hate to say it but im completely with ixfxi on this one.. i ran into this problem on a customers full race turbo kit - 06 civic si. i had to replace all the transmission bolts in that bitch because of exactly what he just posted. old steel bolts in soft aluminum calipers

** Also want to add.. I know with our powder coater. they like to sand blast everything. including our threads. i have to thread chase everything it seems like! i would highly recommend thread chasing the bolts AND the calipers. a little antiseize wouldnt hurt either.. you should be ok.

Nice post btw ixfxi.. i like that.

Calipers for Sale (http://clearcorners.com/products/calipers/)
there is a reason why i specify "all holes have been chased" whenever i rebuild and sell calipers, because its extra time but it makes a better finished product. to the majority of cost oriented fuck-faces, they'll never understand this type of stuff until they do the job themselves. then they'll have an appreciation for the details.


I have some valve cover bolts in my bin that look like that, I guess I should never remove the valve cover as well. :drama:

Maybe, or maybe you shouldnt use power tools to torque shit down and cross-thread bolts. I have a full set of air tools, impact gun & sockets... and a good 90% of the work I STILL do by hand. Ah yes, the power of the almighty strong-hand.

[ch1873857]

a good thread chase kit is worth its weight in gold. sheiit.. you ain't so bad after all ixfxi

[420sx]

you call people idiots yet you dont read into what they post. the fuck is this? a hoe down? i still will tell you its legality issue and your fucking bolt picture is proof. fuck you.

[ixfxi]

^^ this guys from texas


man hes just not understanding the RISK involved with turning that bolt. too much for this texan to understand, i guess.

[Bwayan]

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lftrqjlDzx1qbvu82o1_500.jpg

[Om1kron]

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lftrqjlDzx1qbvu82o1_500.jpg

HOLY SHIT, someone put this train back on the tracks. BRAVO

[Hoffman5982]

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lftrqjlDzx1qbvu82o1_500.jpg

You...You didn't mask off the pistons?

[hotlavaflow]

Maybe, or maybe you shouldnt use power tools to torque shit down and cross-thread bolts. I have a full set of air tools, impact gun & sockets... and a good 90% of the work I STILL do by hand. Ah yes, the power of the almighty strong-hand.

Wow. I guess your in my garage watching me, well probably not cause then you would see me torquing shit to spec by hand.

[waxball88]

You've all ben ixfxiated with knowledge.

[Johny5]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/kidnrg/SDC10632.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/kidnrg/SDC10634.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/kidnrg/SDC10591.jpg

i don't have any fronts but 4 rear z32 calipers painted the correctly corresponding honda civic gold to brembo gold off the z33/sentra calipers. it really didn't turn out close at all but whatever, they're all nice and cleaned up with new boots and such so i'm happy.

[tuquik]

The first set i had:
Before:
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp96/tuquikgsr/15728_434692894618_546614618_5510768_4038599_n.jpg

After with high temp black paint and polished letters:
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp96/tuquikgsr/30905_448107549618_546614618_5802259_7456633_n.jpg

I dont have pictures of the second set i had, and i just bought another set last night so when i get em in ill post up pics of what im going to do with em.

[Broadfield]

There's always a risk with completely dissembling a lot of things. I disassemble interiors all day long every day. There's always a chance for a clip to break, a panel to crack/break etc. But that doesn't keep me from doing it. I completely broke down my Z32's and Stoptechs. Even re-plated every bolt and all hardware. I had zero issues. However, if one of the bolts would of stripped out on the Z32 halve, then I would of bought another caliper if I couldn't re-tap it. It's no different than doing an engine swap or simply taking an engine out of the bay. The lift could fail, something in the bay could get scratched when putting the engine back in... you name it. But we all still do it... it's a risk we are willing to take. What I have taken from this thread so far is that a lot more people have had success breaking them down over people that have had issues.

[gearhead55]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/kidnrg/SDC10591.jpg

i don't have any fronts but 4 rear z32 calipers painted the correctly corresponding honda civic gold to brembo gold off the z33/sentra calipers. it really didn't turn out close at all but whatever, they're all nice and cleaned up with new boots and such so i'm happy.

Wait is this your front brake set up? Two Z32 rears on each front rotor? Or I am missunderstanding something?

I saw a car in a magazine years ago (I think it was a jetta) that had two calipers on each front rotor. It's almost a cool idea, but wouldn't it greatly reduce the rotor's ability to cool down?

[ch1873857]

broadfield is a great philosophizer .

[ch1873857]

Wait is this your front brake set up? Two Z32 rears on each front rotor? Or I am missunderstanding something?

I saw a car in a magazine years ago (I think it was a jetta) that had two calipers on each front rotor. It's almost a cool idea, but wouldn't it greatly reduce the rotor's ability to cool down?

your just misunderstanding. or can't read. dual z32 is where its at

[gearhead55]

your just misunderstanding. or can't read. dual z32 is where its at

What am I misreading? He said he doesn't have any fronts, but that could mean he has no Z32 front calipers and that the dual Z32 rears ARE his front brake set up OR it could mean that he doesn't have a front brake set up yet. It is worded ambiguously.

[93_ProjectS13]

You've all ben ixfxiated with knowledge.
LOL! I seen what you did there.

Took my 30mil aluminum apart. I just took my time with pb blaster and a rechet. I can see fucking it up if you go using air. But if you know anything about working on cars. Your hands can feel when a bolt is streching or breaking and you stop.....

[JFoxx]

What am I misreading? He said he doesn't have any fronts, but that could mean he has no Z32 front calipers and that the dual Z32 rears ARE his front brake set up OR it could mean that he doesn't have a front brake set up yet. It is worded ambiguously.


its obviously a work in progress, he has his rears done but hasnt done or doesnt have his front calipers yet.....common sense people....

[Backintoans13]

There's always a risk with completely dissembling a lot of things. I disassemble interiors all day long every day. There's always a chance for a clip to break, a panel to crack/break etc. But that doesn't keep me from doing it. I completely broke down my Z32's and Stoptechs. Even re-plated every bolt and all hardware. I had zero issues. However, if one of the bolts would of stripped out on the Z32 halve, then I would of bought another caliper if I couldn't re-tap it. It's no different than doing an engine swap or simply taking an engine out of the bay. The lift could fail, something in the bay could get scratched when putting the engine back in... you name it. But we all still do it... it's a risk we are willing to take. What I have taken from this thread so far is that a lot more people have had success breaking them down over people that have had issues.

Well put :cool:

[az_240]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a229/livinglegendlll/Untitled.jpg
Some I recently did with duplicolor satin black brush on. Despite some positive reviews this stuff is shit. Would have powdercoated if I didn't plan to upgrade.

What clear coat are you paint guys using and how does it hold up?


What am I misreading? He said he doesn't have any fronts, but that could mean he has no Z32 front calipers and that the dual Z32 rears ARE his front brake set up OR it could mean that he doesn't have a front brake set up yet. It is worded ambiguously.

He's got brembo fronts.... this is for the rear.... dual caliper cuz hydro e-brake.


Funny you guys are getting so worked up over splitting calipers.

[OaxKouki]

Here are my old z32 calipers that I painted. Started out with teal, thought it looked stupid and repainted them black with gold lettering to match my rims.
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/oaxkouki/PICT0006-4.jpg
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/oaxkouki/CIMG1223.jpg

[Mister.E]

NISSAN sells rebuild kits for both z32 and z33 calipers, but never the halve o-rings.

This is very true.

[420sx]

^^ this guys from texas


man hes just not understanding the RISK involved with turning that bolt. too much for this texan to understand, i guess.

ok. cool? you still dont get it. greek hick.



Z2mCMF222IQ


There's always a risk with completely dissembling a lot of things. I disassemble interiors all day long every day. There's always a chance for a clip to break, a panel to crack/break etc. But that doesn't keep me from doing it. I completely broke down my Z32's and Stoptechs. Even re-plated every bolt and all hardware. I had zero issues. However, if one of the bolts would of stripped out on the Z32 halve, then I would of bought another caliper if I couldn't re-tap it. It's no different than doing an engine swap or simply taking an engine out of the bay. The lift could fail, something in the bay could get scratched when putting the engine back in... you name it. But we all still do it... it's a risk we are willing to take. What I have taken from this thread so far is that a lot more people have had success breaking them down over people that have had issues.

Best answer given.



some simple black metallic and pearl.
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/543336_615868719016_202501148_31967272_1386902103_ n.jpg
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/562485_615868424606_202501148_31967269_1856766228_ n.jpg

[gearhead55]

He's got brembo fronts.... this is for the rear.... dual caliper cuz hydro e-brake.

Ah gotcha.

[ixfxi]

There's always a risk with completely dissembling a lot of things. I disassemble interiors all day long every day. There's always a chance for a clip to break, a panel to crack/break etc. But that doesn't keep me from doing it. I completely broke down my Z32's and Stoptechs. Even re-plated every bolt and all hardware. I had zero issues. However, if one of the bolts would of stripped out on the Z32 halve, then I would of bought another caliper if I couldn't re-tap it. It's no different than doing an engine swap or simply taking an engine out of the bay. The lift could fail, something in the bay could get scratched when putting the engine back in... you name it. But we all still do it... it's a risk we are willing to take. What I have taken from this thread so far is that a lot more people have had success breaking them down over people that have had issues.

i was going to lay into you earlier about this Toby, but got sidetracked

your post makes no fucking sense. how the fuck are you comparing interior panels with brake calipers? and remind me how an interior piece can jeopardize your safety? iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiidiots.

a brake caliper is one of the most, if not the most important safety device on a vehicle - if it does not operate properly then you're shit out of luck. i'de be surprised if people on zilvia even own/know how to use a torque wrench, let alone how to pressure test a caliper. there is a HUGE difference between a brake caliper not rebuilt to proper specs

vs

a motor not working properly
a scratched engine bay
a fucking interior panel clip breaking


so get back to the subject at hand: unless you can disassemble the caliper without ANY risks of threads seizing, then dont disassemble the caliper halves. again, we're not talking pistons... we're talking halves.

furthermore, lets say material did seize... by re-tapping you're further compounding the problem because you're removing more material which means less clamping force. and to boot, not one person has suggested a proper torque value for those bolts. all we have is "well i did it, rebuilt them... they worked fine." thats not 100% solid. toby, i have no beef with you... but if you're hard-parking your car, i cant imagine the calipers ever giving you any problems. i dont claim to be mr track racer, but i did take my car w/ z32 brakes to the track a couple of times... and to the canyons almost every couple days for YEARS.

whatever.... we're way off topic and on top of that.... i'de like to close my argument by saying the guy below can lick the sweat from my balls. thank you, and have a nice day.


ok. cool? you still dont get it. greek hick.

[Om1kron]

whatever.... we're way off topic and on top of that.... i'de like to close my argument by saying the guy below can lick the sweat from my balls. thank you, and have a nice day.

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/cstyles45/Funneh/e9691h.gif

[onehundredoctane]

I painted mine pink, I should post a picture because they are super cooler looking meow.

[Broadfield]

your post makes no fucking sense. how the fuck are you comparing interior panels with brake calipers? and remind me how an interior piece can jeopardize your safety? iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiidiots.

a brake caliper is one of the most, if not the most important safety device on a vehicle - if it does not operate properly then you're shit out of luck. i'de be surprised if people on zilvia even own/know how to use a torque wrench, let alone how to pressure test a caliper. there is a HUGE difference between a brake caliper not rebuilt to proper specs

vs

a motor not working properly
a scratched engine bay
a fucking interior panel clip breaking


so get back to the subject at hand: unless you can disassemble the caliper without ANY risks of threads seizing, then dont disassemble the caliper halves. again, we're not talking pistons... we're talking halves.

furthermore, lets say material did seize... by re-tapping you're further compounding the problem because you're removing more material which means less clamping force. and to boot, not one person has suggested a proper torque value for those bolts. all we have is "well i did it, rebuilt them... they worked fine." thats not 100% solid. toby, i have no beef with you... but if you're hard-parking your car, i cant imagine the calipers ever giving you any problems. i dont claim to be mr track racer, but i did take my car w/ z32 brakes to the track a couple of times... and to the canyons almost every couple days for YEARS.

whatever.... we're way off topic and on top of that.... i'de like to close my argument by saying the guy below can lick the sweat from my balls. thank you, and have a nice day.

In the words of Iron Man: "MY TURN!"

You have never mentioned this "safety" thing before!?! I went back and read all of your posts... the word safety never pops up. Now you are acting like you have been preaching safety the whole thread. Hence why I compared it to the things I did. You simply said don't break them down because you might strip a bolt/halve. I assumed you were simply stating not to disassemble them because of the hassle or cost that may ensue. So how is a stripped bolt/halve a safety concern? Go buy another fucking caliper... problem solved! I would only re-thread it if maybe one of the last threads was the culprit.... I'm not an "idiot" as you so eloquently put it. I'm not going to re-tap the whole damn thing. I guess that's my fault because I said "re-tap"... I meant re-thread. As for torque specs, it's just two chunks of aluminum sandwiched together.... so you should be able to get really close to the proper torque spec by taking into consideration bolt diameter, bolt length, bolt material, TPI and the material it is being threaded into.

So let's say you don't get the exact right torque spec... are you worried that the bolts are going to back out? Are you worried about the caliper leaking? Why are you slamming down the safety card so hard? If a caliper leaks, fix it. It would be a such a minor leak that's it's not going to cause your entire braking system to fail. If the bolts back out then the person is moron and only hand tightened them. If you over torque a bolt and it breaks then go buy another caliper. I guess I'm just not following your harsh stance on this subject. Maybe I'm just stubborn and think that I can fix or replace anything.

Like I said, I have never seen anyone have safety issues after reassembling caliper halves "properly".

I'd like to close my argument by saying the guy below me is entitled to 10% off any product I carry... custom fabrication exempt.

[sidewayz240]

LOUD NOISES!!

Pictures of cool calipers would be sweet.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b118/sidewayz240/DSC02122.jpg

[Vaevictus]

I have a set (f+r) of 26mm Aluminum Z32 Calipers for sale, with (f+r) Z1 Motorsports rebuild kits and four Russell speed bleeders. Pm for info and pics

[usdm180sx]

Mike there's no use. Some people follow the fsm and some don't. You can't force people to. End of story.

[Broadfield]

Sometimes you just gotta lead rather than follow;)

But in all seriousness, I'm just trying to figure out why you and Mike are so hell bent on your stance. So far no one has posted in here that has had issues. And in my 20+ years of modding cars, along with all of my friends that have done the same, not one single person has had issues after breaking down calipers. And if I did have an issue, I would know right away and fix the problem... I'm not going to put a faulty caliper back on my car. I guess I'm just surprised that you and Mike, whom both mod their vehicles, feel this way. And since when is the FSM the official rule book to modding cars? At some point the damn things had to be assembled. Why is out of the question that they can't be broken down and reassembled again?

[usdm180sx]

It's called peace of mind Toby. I just don't feel comfy doing that. Don't hate me for it :)

[Broadfield]

It's called peace of mind Toby. I just don't feel comfy doing that. Don't hate me for it :)

I'll give you that. I guess my job has made me too ballsy. I'm not afraid to do or tackle anything when it comes to tearing apart or modding cars... be it good or bad.

[420sx]

i was going to lay into you earlier about this Toby, but got sidetracked by fantasy of getting my balls licked by a dude

thank you, and have a nice day.

:picardfp: ......... i always knew you we :keke:

[420sx]

I guess my job has made me too ballsy.


enough balls in this thread..... :facepalm: lmao.

[revat619]

this thread is fucking terrible.

[upsdude]

this thread is fucking terrible.

i concur.

-painted calipers are nice, but the point of the thread was for people to post powdercoated calipers. :doh:

-bickering about disassembling/not disassembling the calipers. if you're trying to disassemble brake calipers with an air gun you need to have your tools taken away IMO. but whatever, it's your parts, work with them however you want.

seriously just post some nicely coated calipers, fuckers :mephfawk:

[KiLLeR2001]

I agree with Mike here. But if Toby handed me a set of calipers he disassembled and reassembled I wouldn't hesitate to put them on my car. Toby's judgement is sound. But if anyone else did so, I wouldn't even bother!

[Briou]

http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc488/Briou/b3a2fe38.jpg
http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc488/Briou/bfe01069.jpg

Here are mine...powder coated wrinkle red....completely disassembled them and put them back together with no problems...

[gearhead55]

/\/\/\ that looks good. I had my valve cover done in wrinkle red. The only downside is it is hard to clean.

[s13love-green]

if your gona argue keep it clean state ur arguement no bad words
this thread is for pics not ur silly macho man talk we got more of that then pics so lets post some pics up:hide:

[s13love-green]

Used a torque gun to take apart rear calipers (aluminum) n no strip :)
Now time to powder coat :naughtyd:

[ch1873857]

Used a torque gun to take apart rear calipers (aluminum) n no strip :)
Now time to powder coat :naughtyd:

i want you to film yourself putting them back together. live stream it on this thread so we can all laugh at you.

[s13love-green]

Haha u make it seem like success rate is 0%

[ch1873857]

put them back together with an impact.. do it..

[s13love-green]

put them back together with an impact.. do it..

Just for u ill do it ....:wackit:

[ixfxi]

if your gona argue keep it clean state ur arguement no bad words

go fuck yourself


toby and i have no beef. when people talk on zilvia its like talking a pub, say what you gotta say without this politically correct nonsense.. fuck that, we have enough of that shit in society. what, do we need to be courteous for the 3% of female car enthusiasts on this forum? fuck them too, if they dont like hanging with the boys then move on.

or maybe i should just be proper so that i dont offend anyone. okay, i'll give it a shot:

Sir Toby, you make an excellent argument and i do concur, that it is just a mechanical part and that there is no rule that says a brake caliper, or any other mechanical part for that matter, cannot be disassembled. However, the factory service manual is an excellent resource and a fine example of engineering knowledge written by professionals with years of experience hence, their words should not be taken lightly. The major factor is the risk involved, whence the risk out-weighs the monetary loss of a seized caliper. Furthermore, without proper torque specs there is no concrete or sure-fire way to equally seat the caliper halves which deal with opposing forces, and i for one can easily imagine this causing a myriad of problems from warping to uneven pad wear as these parts are constantly heat-cycled. It would be further advisable during a rebuild process to pressure test each individual caliper to ensure that they are capable of sustaining a certain level of pressure without any leakage. All of these steps should be done with care before a part of this criticality or magnitude if you will, is considered fully rebuilt and safe for sale.

As a professional with over a decade of engineering and business experience, fully believe it is of utmost importance that business owners conduct themselves in a professional manner thereby adhering to the highest standards when it comes to building and/or refinishing products for their customers, especially when in this case we are dealing with safety devices whereby their durability and reliability is of utmost importance. In closing, this is why i personally believe business owners must follow a conservative philosophy where certain risks should never jeopardize the safety of the individual.

Thank you, have a nice day and GO FUCK YOURSELVES

[Edwin562]

Mike, classic LOL....

[KiLLeR2001]

You could take each one of Mike's paragraph-long posts and frame them on a wall for a good laugh now and again.

[420sx]

fuck yea. no bullshit.

[s13love-green]

go fuck yourself


toby and i have no beef. when people talk on zilvia its like talking a pub, say what you gotta say without this politically correct nonsense.. fuck that, we have enough of that shit in society. what, do we need to be courteous for the 3% of female car enthusiasts on this forum? fuck them too, if they dont like hanging with the boys then move on.

or maybe i should just be proper so that i dont offend anyone. okay, i'll give it a shot:

Sir Toby, you make an excellent argument and i do concur, that it is just a mechanical part and that there is no rule that says a brake caliper, or any other mechanical part for that matter, cannot be disassembled. However, the factory service manual is an excellent resource and a fine example of engineering knowledge written by professionals with years of experience hence, their words should not be taken lightly. The major factor is the risk involved, whence the risk out-weighs the monetary loss of a seized caliper. Furthermore, without proper torque specs there is no concrete or sure-fire way to equally seat the caliper halves which deal with opposing forces, and i for one can easily imagine this causing a myriad of problems from warping to uneven pad wear as these parts are constantly heat-cycled. It would be further advisable during a rebuild process to pressure test each individual caliper to ensure that they are capable of sustaining a certain level of pressure without any leakage. All of these steps should be done with care before a part of this criticality or magnitude if you will, is considered fully rebuilt and safe for sale.

As a professional with over a decade of engineering and business experience, fully believe it is of utmost importance that business owners conduct themselves in a professional manner thereby adhering to the highest standards when it comes to building and/or refinishing products for their customers, especially when in this case we are dealing with safety devices whereby their durability and reliability is of utmost importance. In closing, this is why i personally believe business owners must follow a conservative philosophy where certain risks should never jeopardize the safety of the individual.

Thank you, have a nice day and GO FUCK YOURSELVES

Lmao waste of time ^ didn't bother reading it

[Hoffman5982]

Lmao waste of time ^ didn't bother reading it

Are you proud of being a lazy twat?

[ch1873857]

Lmao waste of time ^ didn't bother reading it

ixfxi was right.. this forum is full of a bunch of idiots..

[Broadfield]

go fuck yourself


toby and i have no beef. when people talk on zilvia its like talking a pub, say what you gotta say without this politically correct nonsense.. fuck that, we have enough of that shit in society. what, do we need to be courteous for the 3% of female car enthusiasts on this forum? fuck them too, if they dont like hanging with the boys then move on.

or maybe i should just be proper so that i dont offend anyone. okay, i'll give it a shot:

Sir Toby, you make an excellent argument and i do concur, that it is just a mechanical part and that there is no rule that says a brake caliper, or any other mechanical part for that matter, cannot be disassembled. However, the factory service manual is an excellent resource and a fine example of engineering knowledge written by professionals with years of experience hence, their words should not be taken lightly. The major factor is the risk involved, whence the risk out-weighs the monetary loss of a seized caliper. Furthermore, without proper torque specs there is no concrete or sure-fire way to equally seat the caliper halves which deal with opposing forces, and i for one can easily imagine this causing a myriad of problems from warping to uneven pad wear as these parts are constantly heat-cycled. It would be further advisable during a rebuild process to pressure test each individual caliper to ensure that they are capable of sustaining a certain level of pressure without any leakage. All of these steps should be done with care before a part of this criticality or magnitude if you will, is considered fully rebuilt and safe for sale.

As a professional with over a decade of engineering and business experience, fully believe it is of utmost importance that business owners conduct themselves in a professional manner thereby adhering to the highest standards when it comes to building and/or refinishing products for their customers, especially when in this case we are dealing with safety devices whereby their durability and reliability is of utmost importance. In closing, this is why i personally believe business owners must follow a conservative philosophy where certain risks should never jeopardize the safety of the individual.

Thank you, have a nice day and GO FUCK YOURSELVES

I definitely see your point from a business stance. I wasn't aware that the majority of your argument was from a business point of view... your stance on the subject makes MUCH more sense now. I'm not in the business of modding cars, building engines, making custom wiring harnesses, refinishing calipers etc. So it's just for my personal use when I do the above... so no customer liability issues. There are several things I won't do as a business though: I will not install a remote start onto a manual trans vehicle unless the remote start is designed to operate on a manual. I will not install pedal pull cruise control setups. If a customer brings their own amplifier wiring kit, and doesn't have the proper fuse holder setup, then I will not install/run the wiring until they bring me one or buy one from me. So I get where you're coming from.

Now that this is somewhat settled, I say we go argue in Damon's thread:naughty:

... and like Mike said, we definitely have no beef. Mike and I are about the only ones that take the time to type out an actual paragraph. If we could just get Norm to post more than 10 - 20 words in his reply's, we could have even more fun!

[Slammed180]

What's this thread about?

[Broadfield]

What's this thread about?

Couple more pics:

http://images18.fotki.com/v329/photos/4/47612/3915226/3730923593_e8254044fe_o-vi.jpg

http://images51.fotki.com/v282/photos/4/47612/3915226/IMG_5877-vi.jpg

http://images16.fotki.com/v258/photos/4/47612/3915226/IMG_8728-vi.jpg

http://images61.fotki.com/v777/photos/4/47612/3915226/IMG_8689-vi.jpg

[Enna]

Half of my enjoyment on zilvia is mike's postings.

[russian]

go fuck yourself


toby and i have no beef. when people talk on zilvia its like talking a pub, say what you gotta say without this politically correct nonsense.. fuck that, we have enough of that shit in society. what, do we need to be courteous for the 3% of female car enthusiasts on this forum? fuck them too, if they dont like hanging with the boys then move on.

or maybe i should just be proper so that i dont offend anyone. okay, i'll give it a shot:

Sir Toby, you make an excellent argument and i do concur, that it is just a mechanical part and that there is no rule that says a brake caliper, or any other mechanical part for that matter, cannot be disassembled. However, the factory service manual is an excellent resource and a fine example of engineering knowledge written by professionals with years of experience hence, their words should not be taken lightly. The major factor is the risk involved, whence the risk out-weighs the monetary loss of a seized caliper. Furthermore, without proper torque specs there is no concrete or sure-fire way to equally seat the caliper halves which deal with opposing forces, and i for one can easily imagine this causing a myriad of problems from warping to uneven pad wear as these parts are constantly heat-cycled. It would be further advisable during a rebuild process to pressure test each individual caliper to ensure that they are capable of sustaining a certain level of pressure without any leakage. All of these steps should be done with care before a part of this criticality or magnitude if you will, is considered fully rebuilt and safe for sale.

As a professional with over a decade of engineering and business experience, fully believe it is of utmost importance that business owners conduct themselves in a professional manner thereby adhering to the highest standards when it comes to building and/or refinishing products for their customers, especially when in this case we are dealing with safety devices whereby their durability and reliability is of utmost importance. In closing, this is why i personally believe business owners must follow a conservative philosophy where certain risks should never jeopardize the safety of the individual.

Thank you, have a nice day and GO FUCK YOURSELVES


im glad you have your opinion. and everyone has theirs and most will not listen to you or anyone but themselves. so go fuck yourself too, sweetheart.

2Z4m4lnjxkY

[s13love-green]

Are you proud of being a lazy twat?

Plz explain in detail y not wanting to read it makes me lazy ?
Read between the lines since it seems u like to waste ur time reading some ones opinion yada yada yada blah blah u say I'm lazy cuz?????

[usdm180sx]

I definitely see your point from a business stance. I wasn't aware that the majority of your argument was from a business point of view... your stance on the subject makes MUCH more sense now. I'm not in the business of modding cars, building engines, making custom wiring harnesses, refinishing calipers etc. So it's just for my personal use when I do the above... so no customer liability issues. There are several things I won't do as a business though: I will not install a remote start onto a manual trans vehicle unless the remote start is designed to operate on a manual. I will not install pedal pull cruise control setups. If a customer brings their own amplifier wiring kit, and doesn't have the proper fuse holder setup, then I will not install/run the wiring until they bring me one or buy one from me. So I get where you're coming from.

Now that this is somewhat settled, I say we go argue in Damon's thread:naughty:

... and like Mike said, we definitely have no beef. Mike and I are about the only ones that take the time to type out an actual paragraph. If we could just get Norm to post more than 10 - 20 words in his reply's, we could have even more fun!

LMAO I'm still working on the 17 words of haiku but I'll get there soon enough shortly.

[One_love_silvia]

go fuck yourself


toby and i have no beef. when people talk on zilvia its like talking a pub, say what you gotta say without this politically correct nonsense.. fuck that, we have enough of that shit in society. what, do we need to be courteous for the 3% of female car enthusiasts on this forum? fuck them too, if they dont like hanging with the boys then move on.

or maybe i should just be proper so that i dont offend anyone. okay, i'll give it a shot:

Sir Toby, you make an excellent argument and i do concur, that it is just a mechanical part and that there is no rule that says a brake caliper, or any other mechanical part for that matter, cannot be disassembled. However, the factory service manual is an excellent resource and a fine example of engineering knowledge written by professionals with years of experience hence, their words should not be taken lightly. The major factor is the risk involved, whence the risk out-weighs the monetary loss of a seized caliper. Furthermore, without proper torque specs there is no concrete or sure-fire way to equally seat the caliper halves which deal with opposing forces, and i for one can easily imagine this causing a myriad of problems from warping to uneven pad wear as these parts are constantly heat-cycled. It would be further advisable during a rebuild process to pressure test each individual caliper to ensure that they are capable of sustaining a certain level of pressure without any leakage. All of these steps should be done with care before a part of this criticality or magnitude if you will, is considered fully rebuilt and safe for sale.

As a professional with over a decade of engineering and business experience, fully believe it is of utmost importance that business owners conduct themselves in a professional manner thereby adhering to the highest standards when it comes to building and/or refinishing products for their customers, especially when in this case we are dealing with safety devices whereby their durability and reliability is of utmost importance. In closing, this is why i personally believe business owners must follow a conservative philosophy where certain risks should never jeopardize the safety of the individual.

Thank you, have a nice day and GO FUCK YOURSELVES

as much as you might know, and as good as ur shit is mike, your seriously a complete tool/douche bag/asshole/etc.

people like you are the reason why the country is turning to shit. zilvia is nothing like a pub. its accepted a little more in a pub/bar because those idiots are drunk; and unless ur drunk every time you're on zilvia, you should conduct yourself in a respectful manner. especially being a business owner.

i guarantee if ken from ER acted like you, he wouldn't have as large of a business as he does right now. However, because ken is such a kind and respectful person, people go to him for business. that's just common sense when owning a business.

it has NOTHING to do with being politically correct. it has to do with having common courtesy and respect for your fellow human. clearly you weren't raise with these morals. if you seriously think acting like an asshole to everyone makes you manly, than you have some seriously issues. You should probably see therapist about that. I'm assuming they'll tell you that you feel that way because that's how your father treated you and your mother.

cool, you have a lot of money and own a successful business where you overcharge people for lights. congratulations. Here's a waffle (#).

now get off your fucking high horse.

ixfxi was right.. this forum is full of a bunch of idiots..

the world is full of idiots. i'd say a good 80% of people are idiots.

[usdm180sx]

LOL you've never met Mike in person. I got into it with him too waaaay back in the day on here but when I met him he was so hilarious I couldn't stop laughing for days. I'm sure as hell not kissing his ass but on here that's his style. My guess is that he has a love/hate relationship with zilvia as I'm sure a lot of us on here do. Take what he says with a grain of salt. It's the interwebz. He does know his shit and he takes great pleasure in ripping new assholes on what he perceives are stupid comments. BTW being an ass on here doesn't affect his business in anyway because 99.9% of the people here can't afford his services anyway lol.

Cliffsnotes: He's an ass on here but funny as hell in person. Such is life.

[KiLLeR2001]

as much as you might know, and as good as ur shit is mike, your seriously a complete tool/douche bag/asshole/etc.

people like you are the reason why the country is turning to shit. zilvia is nothing like a pub. its accepted a little more in a pub/bar because those idiots are drunk; and unless ur drunk every time you're on zilvia, you should conduct yourself in a respectful manner. especially being a business owner.

i guarantee if ken from ER acted like you, he wouldn't have as large of a business as he does right now. However, because ken is such a kind and respectful person, people go to him for business. that's just common sense when owning a business.

it has NOTHING to do with being politically correct. it has to do with having common courtesy and respect for your fellow human. clearly you weren't raise with these morals. if you seriously think acting like an asshole to everyone makes you manly, than you have some seriously issues. You should probably see therapist about that. I'm assuming they'll tell you that you feel that way because that's how your father treated you and your mother.

cool, you have a lot of money and own a successful business where you overcharge people for lights. congratulations. Here's a waffle (#).

now get off your fucking high horse.



the world is full of idiots. i'd say a good 80% of people are idiots.

Well, if Mike needs to seek a therapist then you need to seek an English scholar because you have no grasp on grammar and punctuation. (I was going to highlight all your mistakes but there are far too many.)

[ZilviaKid]

as much as you might know, and as good as ur shit is mike, your seriously a complete tool/douche bag/asshole/etc.

people like you are the reason why the country is turning to shit. zilvia is nothing like a pub. its accepted a little more in a pub/bar because those idiots are drunk; and unless ur drunk every time you're on zilvia, you should conduct yourself in a respectful manner. especially being a business owner.

i guarantee if ken from ER acted like you, he wouldn't have as large of a business as he does right now. However, because ken is such a kind and respectful person, people go to him for business. that's just common sense when owning a business.

it has NOTHING to do with being politically correct. it has to do with having common courtesy and respect for your fellow human. clearly you weren't raise with these morals. if you seriously think acting like an asshole to everyone makes you manly, than you have some seriously issues. You should probably see therapist about that. I'm assuming they'll tell you that you feel that way because that's how your father treated you and your mother.

cool, you have a lot of money and own a successful business where you overcharge people for lights. congratulations. Here's a waffle (#).

now get off your fucking high horse.



the world is full of idiots. i'd say a good 80% of people are idiots.

im glad you can admit to being in the 80%, it's very big of you.

mike wins again

[One_love_silvia]

Well, if Mike needs to seek a therapist then you need to seek an English scholar because you have no grasp on grammar and punctuation. (I was going to highlight all your mistakes but there are far too many.) hahaha I fucking knew someone would cry about that. I just got off work work went I typed that. I don't give a shit about it. it's the internet regardless. My main error was with shortening words.
and was completely intentional. And punctuation isn't needed to get my point across. If you can't understand it, you're fucking retarded and probably couldn't comprehend what I'm saying anyways.

And I'll be the first to admit english has always been my worst subject haha.
im glad you can admit to being in the 80%, it's very big of you.

mike wins again

Not once did I state or hint I was part of the idiots. Your argument is invalid. Stop sucking mike's dick and come up with a better insult next time. I can guarantee my intelligence exceeds yours.

[Enna]

So you admit that english has always been your worst subject, also that someone must be retarded to not understand your speech. You are aware that puts you out there as an individual who probably has a speech impediment nor can coherently put a sentence together that can be comprehended by an average person.

So you have actually just proven that you are part of the 80% that you so eloquently labeled as idiots.

Edit: Oh and just for you - SLOB SLOB SLOB ALL ON MIKES COCK!

[upsdude]

can this thread get locked now since it's gone way off track?

[One_love_silvia]

So you admit that english has always been your worst subject, also that someone must be retarded to not understand your speech. You are aware that puts you out there as an individual who probably has a speech impediment nor can coherently put a sentence together that can be comprehended by an average person.

So you have actually just proven that you are part of the 80% that you so eloquently labeled as idiots.

Edit: Oh and just for you - SLOB SLOB SLOB ALL ON MIKES COCK!
i spoke nothing of speech. typing/writing is completely different from speech. i don't have a speech impediment at all. i'm simply not very skilled at forming proper paragraphs and that kinda shit. i say what needs to be said. nothing else. Capitalization or proper punctuation is not needed for you to understand what i'm trying to get across.

clearly my sentences can be comprehended by the average person, as you people are sitting here arguing with me about what i'm saying. the fact that you said i "can't coherently put a sentence together that can be comprehended by an average person" while you sit here and have an argument with me based on what i'm saying, insinuates that you, yourself, are not an average person. therefore, YOU are the one who just called yourself stupid. Not I.

[Enna]

Now while I would gladly continue this little farce of yours, I will kindly respect Upsdude's comment and drop it.

[3411]

its funny how a simple thread on powder coating calipers turned in to a whole bunch of bs.

i plan on going with a purple for my s13 30mm A calipers , unsure what colors to do on the 91 z and 95 z i love that teal tho i think it will pop on the white 91 but that still leaves the deep green 95 ...... any sugjestions ?

i would rather take my chances on me rather than 20+yo rubber seals in my calipers, but thats me granted there are a few out there who shouldnt be driving a car let alone tearing apart there calipers

[97nismo]

http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo286/1997nismo/lk020.jpg

wrong thread sorry....

[bllabong89]

Lol. Not sure if this still applies here but does anyone know of any companies to get my calipers rebuilt? I have evo/sti brembo's and Don't know what condition they are in. Thanks ahead of time

[Broadfield]

its funny how a simple thread on powder coating calipers turned in to a whole bunch of bs.

i plan on going with a purple for my s13 30mm A calipers , unsure what colors to do on the 91 z and 95 z i love that teal tho i think it will pop on the white 91 but that still leaves the deep green 95 ...... any sugjestions ?

i would rather take my chances on me rather than 20+yo rubber seals in my calipers, but thats me granted there are a few out there who shouldnt be driving a car let alone tearing apart there calipers

Personally I think the color of the wheel, as much as the color of the car, affects what color of caliper you should consider. When I first did my calipers in white I had my old gold Meisters.... they looked like shit behind there. My initial thought when deciding on what color I wanted to do my calipers was that white will go with anything. I was wrong! I love the white behind the VS-KF's and of course the polished Meisters though. For example, I think the white would also look bad behind bronze wheels.

So what wheels are you running on which vehicles?

[CrimsonRockett]

Back on track, yes?

I currently have Endless BBK in gold. Should have my Z32 rears powdercoated in a similar gold as well.

I'm wondering if I should go with a different color considering my new VS-XX have gold faces and polished lips.

Gold on gold might be too much.

Hmm.

[stunnaben]

How is it that Zilvia always turns into a dick sizing contest that ultimately boils down to judging someone by their grammar and punctuation. Set up a fight night thread and anytime an argument arrises go log it and at the big meet you two can don boxing gloves and whoop each others asses in a controlled environment.

[Slammed180]

I thought this was a thread on business ethics?

[Broadfield]

How is it that Zilvia always turns into a dick sizing contest that ultimately boils down to judging someone by their grammar and punctuation. Set up a fight night thread and anytime an argument arrises go log it and at the big meet you two can don boxing gloves and whoop each others asses in a controlled environment.

I thought this was a thread on business ethics?

You guys do realize that you are the ones still talking about it!?! I'm pretty sure we have already moved back to pics and conversation of colors.

Back on track, yes?

I currently have Endless BBK in gold. Should have my Z32 rears powdercoated in a similar gold as well.

I'm wondering if I should go with a different color considering my new VS-XX have gold faces and polished lips.

Gold on gold might be too much.

Hmm.

I actually love the gold on gold... especially if the wheel and calipers are completely different colors of gold. If you think about the older STi's, they were gold on gold.... and they looked good even with a stock wheel.

I also had a set of gold Volk LE28N's on my STi that I loved the color combo:

http://images16.fotki.com/v363/photos/4/47612/458706/TobysDriverSide-vi.jpg

http://images39.fotki.com/v1350/photos/4/47612/458706/6-vi.jpg

http://images60.fotki.com/v662/photos/4/47612/458706/9-vi.jpg

[JFoxx]

the thought of gold on gold sounded horrible, but that does look pretty good^^

[J2FRESH]

IBTL

:lfault:

[CrimsonRockett]

Calipers are:

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii246/CrimsonRockett/photo-64.jpg

Wheels are:

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii246/CrimsonRockett/CrimsonRockett%202009/DSCF5800.jpg

I'm hoping they go well together. If not, I'll probably try out the Project Mu teal.

[Broadfield]

So do you already have the wheels in your possession Crimson? If so, slap that crap on there and let me see a pic of it.

[s13love-green]

Calipers are:

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii246/CrimsonRockett/photo-64.jpg

Wheels are:

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii246/CrimsonRockett/CrimsonRockett%202009/DSCF5800.jpg

I'm hoping they go well together. If not, I'll probably try out the Project Mu teal.
wow nice set up any ideas on what colors ur thinking of as far as powder coat?

[Hoffman5982]

Plz explain in detail y not wanting to read it makes me lazy ?
Read between the lines since it seems u like to waste ur time reading some ones opinion yada yada yada blah blah u say I'm lazy cuz?????

Isn't it obvious? You joined an argument, but couldn't take the 30 seconds to read a paragraph typed in plain english? The truth is, you most likely did read it, but had no clever comeback or anything at all to reply with so you bitched out. Don't worry, brighter men have tried and failed at arguing with Mike..

[s13love-green]

Isn't it obvious? You joined an argument, but couldn't take the 30 seconds to read a paragraph typed in plain english? The truth is, you most likely did read it, but had no clever comeback or anything at all to reply with so you bitched out. Don't worry, brighter men have tried and failed at arguing with Mike..
any who:zzz:

[93_ProjectS13]

Candy purple 30mm alum.
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa97/weems1988/IMG_1715.jpg

[SinCityS14]

here are mine....nothing fancy they just work!! they are wrinkle black
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e226/hng32knight/dd264a10.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e226/hng32knight/2ca637bf.jpg

[KiLLeR2001]

Not a fan of similar color calipers to wheel faces. I like a nice contrasting color to make them stand out. Nismo Red would be a good choice for those wheels Crimson, or if you wanted to keep the gold theme going, do black caliper with gold endless lettering.

[Broadfield]

Not a fan of similar color calipers to wheel faces. I like a nice contrasting color to make them stand out. Nismo Red would be a good choice for those wheels Crimson, or if you wanted to keep the gold theme going, do black caliper with gold endless lettering.

My StopTechs were originally black.... worst color ever for a caliper. You can't even tell they are on the car. And they especially looked bad behind my gold Meisters. That's just my opinion though.

[Drift_86]

I like the gold on gold on my wheel set up
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m62/TheDuffman86/98290030.jpg

[Brian]

go fuck yourself


toby and i have no beef. when people talk on zilvia its like talking a pub, say what you gotta say without this politically correct nonsense.. fuck that, we have enough of that shit in society. what, do we need to be courteous for the 3% of female car enthusiasts on this forum? fuck them too, if they dont like hanging with the boys then move on.

or maybe i should just be proper so that i dont offend anyone. okay, i'll give it a shot:

Sir Toby, you make an excellent argument and i do concur, that it is just a mechanical part and that there is no rule that says a brake caliper, or any other mechanical part for that matter, cannot be disassembled. However, the factory service manual is an excellent resource and a fine example of engineering knowledge written by professionals with years of experience hence, their words should not be taken lightly. The major factor is the risk involved, whence the risk out-weighs the monetary loss of a seized caliper. Furthermore, without proper torque specs there is no concrete or sure-fire way to equally seat the caliper halves which deal with opposing forces, and i for one can easily imagine this causing a myriad of problems from warping to uneven pad wear as these parts are constantly heat-cycled. It would be further advisable during a rebuild process to pressure test each individual caliper to ensure that they are capable of sustaining a certain level of pressure without any leakage. All of these steps should be done with care before a part of this criticality or magnitude if you will, is considered fully rebuilt and safe for sale.

As a professional with over a decade of engineering and business experience, fully believe it is of utmost importance that business owners conduct themselves in a professional manner thereby adhering to the highest standards when it comes to building and/or refinishing products for their customers, especially when in this case we are dealing with safety devices whereby their durability and reliability is of utmost importance. In closing, this is why i personally believe business owners must follow a conservative philosophy where certain risks should never jeopardize the safety of the individual.

Thank you, have a nice day and GO FUCK YOURSELVES


clearcorners.com number one aftermarket lighting in the business.




anyways, it's easiest to just leave the brakes on the car, tape the rotors and just pick a color spray paint and shoot away.
Get real, dudes.

[One_love_silvia]

Calipers are:

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii246/CrimsonRockett/photo-64.jpg

Wheels are:

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii246/CrimsonRockett/CrimsonRockett%202009/DSCF5800.jpg

I'm hoping they go well together. If not, I'll probably try out the Project Mu teal.

what about chrome?
http://www.calchrome.com/images/parts_brembo_brake_caliper_big.jpg

looks pretty fuckin sick imo. and i've never seen anyone do it. or maybe the Special brillant coating from enkei that they use on rpf1s.

[KiLLeR2001]

My StopTechs were originally black.... worst color ever for a caliper. You can't even tell they are on the car. And they especially looked bad behind my gold Meisters. That's just my opinion though.

Yeah, personally I wouldn't do black calipers. I'm a sucker for an extremely bright red caliper.

Anyone try yellow calipers behind gold wheels yet? lol...

[revat619]

anyways, it's easiest to just leave the brakes on the car, tape the rotors and just pick a color spray paint and shoot away.
Get real, dudes.

QFT

Exactly what i did. :bow:

[ixfxi]

as much as you might know, and as good as ur shit is mike, your seriously a complete tool/douche bag/asshole/etc.
people like you are the reason why the country is turning to shit. zilvia is nothing like a pub. its accepted a little more in a pub/bar because those idiots are drunk; and unless ur drunk every time you're on zilvia, you should conduct yourself in a respectful manner. especially being a business owner.

i completely agree with you, i am a complete tool/douche bag/asshole + etcetera. its guys like me who talk shit on forums, we're the reason the country is going to shit. i apologize for my unruly behavior and will do my best to get the country and its economy back in shape.

shit, for a second i thought offshore manufacturing and shady enron corporations were the reason. fuck, err.. wow, thanks for bringing that to my attention ONE LOVE SILVIA.


i guarantee if ken from ER acted like you, he wouldn't have as large of a business as he does right now. However, because ken is such a kind and respectful person, people go to him for business. that's just common sense when owning a business.

i thought his business was larger 5-10 years ago, back when he had employees, racecars, etc... hmm, i guess being nice and selling copy-cat products is a sure-shot method of being successful. i dont have any beef with him so i'll shut the fuck up.


it has NOTHING to do with being politically correct. it has to do with having common courtesy and respect for your fellow human. clearly you weren't raise with these morals. if you seriously think acting like an asshole to everyone makes you manly, than you have some seriously issues. You should probably see therapist about that. I'm assuming they'll tell you that you feel that way because that's how your father treated you and your mother.

i love how i havent posted for days and everyone has already told you to shut the fuck up. ide put you in your place but it appears everyones already done that for me, hehe


cool, you have a lot of money and own a successful business where you overcharge people for lights. congratulations. Here's a waffle (#).
now get off your fucking high horse.
the world is full of idiots. i'd say a good 80% of people are idiots.

i have no idea who youre speaking of. i dont have a lot of money. i dont have a business. i work for AT&T selling cell phones, you have me mixed up with someone else.


now, back to calipers.

ps: if this thread is about Z32 calipers, why do i see brembo and endless calipers? whats up with this shit?

[Nintensity]

Hey guys, I realized my Rotor centers are SUPER rusty. I've had these rotors for about a year, driven in the rain ~5 times and car wash ~5 times since. The brown pops out like a sore thumb.. Is there a way to fix this?

[viksz33]

Hey guys, I realized my Rotor centers are SUPER rusty. I've had these rotors for about a year, driven in the rain ~5 times and car wash ~5 times since. The brown pops out like a sore thumb.. Is there a way to fix this?

Paint them or buy the zinc coated rotors.

[hotlavaflow]

Hey you guys with the colored lettering on the calipers how did you do it?
1. Did you sand the powder coat/paint and brush paint?
2. Did you sand the powder coat/paint completely off then brush paint?
3. Skilled masking job?
4. Something else?

I'm curious because I just powder coated my calipers

[Om1kron]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v46/om1kron/My%20Cars/1996%20240sx%20Kouki/2012-03-26/2012-03-26_15-07-18_468.jpg

Black calipers work just fine for me, although the black anodizing has faded on these.

[ch1873857]

Hey you guys with the colored lettering on the calipers how did you do it?
1. Did you sand the powder coat/paint and brush paint?
2. Did you sand the powder coat/paint completely off then brush paint?
3. Skilled masking job?
4. Something else?

I'm curious because I just powder coated my calipers

number 1. you can use a match stick, or fine paint brush. like artist shit. I always used a cigarette butt dipped in paint because Im too cheap for a fancy paint brush.. my rear z32 calipers are silver to match my Stoptech BBK up front. used a black sharpie for the letters. turned out decent i guess.

[Broadfield]

Hey you guys with the colored lettering on the calipers how did you do it?
1. Did you sand the powder coat/paint and brush paint?
2. Did you sand the powder coat/paint completely off then brush paint?
3. Skilled masking job?
4. Something else?

I'm curious because I just powder coated my calipers

The best thing is to sand the tops of the letters down to bare aluminum. That way the paint will lay on there better. Otherwise the paint will want to run off if the powder coat has a really smooth finish. Simply run masking tape around the four sides of the "NISSAN", right up against the letters, to prevent you from scuffing the caliper... then sand away. Then use automotive touch up paint in whatever color you choose. You will NOT want to use the brush that comes in the bottle of touch up paint though. The best thing are some mini paint applicators like these:

http://www.permanentchoices.com/permanent-makeup/images/P/miniqtips-350.jpg

For my front StopTechs I used a sticker. They are still as good as the day I put them on there... it's been 3 years. I'm really surprised they have held up perfectly.

[ch1873857]

Woah thats awesome broadfield! i never even knew those existed. where you get those?

[Hoffman5982]

I'm assuming most hobby shops would carry them or something similar

[JFoxx]

wonder how long we'll stay on topic this time before someone else gets their panties in a wad....

nothing special, black with a hint of sparkle, and metalic teal hardware....
http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p473/jfoxx88/540730_327263057338300_100001638240150_905030_1440 016542_n.jpg

sorry for the blurry pic, but a little before and after....
http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p473/jfoxx88/305611_325964964134776_100001638240150_901969_2001 668104_n.jpg

[JFoxx]

what about chrome?
http://www.calchrome.com/images/parts_brembo_brake_caliper_big.jpg

looks pretty fuckin sick imo. and i've never seen anyone do it. or maybe the Special brillant coating from enkei that they use on rpf1s.


that seems like a bitch to keep clean.... i bet after one trip they would look like ass.....

i think it looks ok....but it might cross the line of being kinda tacky IMO, would have to see them on a car...

[hotlavaflow]

I really appreciate the help I've never seen those applicators before I'll hit the hobby store tomorrow morning.

The best thing is to sand the tops of the letters down to bare aluminum. That way the paint will lay on there better. Otherwise the paint will want to run off if the powder coat has a really smooth finish. Simply run masking tape around the four sides of the "NISSAN", right up against the letters, to prevent you from scuffing the caliper... then sand away. Then use automotive touch up paint in whatever color you choose. You will NOT want to use the brush that comes in the bottle of touch up paint though...

That is so hood lol I like it.

number 1. you can use a match stick, or fine paint brush. like artist shit. I always used a cigarette butt dipped in paint because Im too cheap for a fancy paint brush.. my rear z32 calipers are silver to match my Stoptech BBK up front. used a black sharpie for the letters. turned out decent i guess.

[ch1873857]

I really appreciate the help I've never seen those applicators before I'll hit the hobby store tomorrow morning.



That is so hood lol I like it.

HEY. it works! Was a customers full race civic i built.

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/200509_202058536472985_100000065193092_778277_1868 693_n.jpg

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/196065_202058579806314_100000065193092_778280_2281 564_n.jpg

[3411]

Personally I think the color of the wheel, as much as the color of the car, affects what color of caliper you should consider. When I first did my calipers in white I had my old gold Meisters.... they looked like shit behind there. My initial thought when deciding on what color I wanted to do my calipers was that white will go with anything. I was wrong! I love the white behind the VS-KF's and of course the polished Meisters though. For example, I think the white would also look bad behind bronze wheels.

So what wheels are you running on which vehicles?

well my s13 will most likely be purple so im thing the candi purple would suit it will and ill most likely be running z32 wheels

on my 91 the car will be white so i was thinking the coman red (pollished gravity gullflame wheels) but that candi teal cought my eye

and the green(dark green they came in) 95 z i was thinking gold or bronze

[3411]

Personally I think the color of the wheel, as much as the color of the car, affects what color of caliper you should consider. When I first did my calipers in white I had my old gold Meisters.... they looked like shit behind there. My initial thought when deciding on what color I wanted to do my calipers was that white will go with anything. I was wrong! I love the white behind the VS-KF's and of course the polished Meisters though. For example, I think the white would also look bad behind bronze wheels.

So what wheels are you running on which vehicles?

well my s13 will most likely be purple so im thing the candi purple would suit it will and ill most likely be running z32 wheels

on my 91 the car will be white so i was thinking the coman red (pollished gravity gullflame wheels) but that candi teal cought my eye

and the green(dark green they came in) 95 z i was thinking gold or bronze and i have my eye on some bronze work emotions for this one

but $ of corse is slow so im sure ill go threw a few sets b4 i get the set of wheels i want

[ixfxi]

^ this guys like 1 week late to the party

follow the trend, this thread is dead now

[headup240]

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/556911_2168840625881_1392660882_32625680_168532716 7_n.jpg

[usdm180sx]

^Horrible color choice. Shit's gonna get dirty really fast. At least you didn't go with a wrinkle coat.

[SomeoneWhoIsntMe]

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/403484_10150733940288349_552563348_9508632_2124653 903_n.jpg

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/527269_10150734890348349_552563348_9510761_1836988 74_n.jpg

was stoked on how the red with raw lettering came out, but now I've got green knuckles and I'm doing the control arms purple so I kinda want to redo them purple or gold or something :/

[Broadfield]

^Horrible color choice. Shit's gonna get dirty really fast. At least you didn't go with a wrinkle coat.

You would think that, but mine stay pretty much spotless....even on a 600 mile road trip. They really don't get any dirtier than the exterior of the car. Obviously pad type is greatly going to affect this. I have the standard pads that come with the StopTechs FWIW.

[ch1873857]

You would think that, but mine stay pretty much spotless....even on a 600 mile road trip. They really don't get any dirtier than the exterior of the car. Obviously pad type is greatly going to affect this. I have the standard pads that come with the StopTechs FWIW.

i know this is totally off topic but what pads came with your stoptechs? i have long thrown the box away and i love the pads on mine so i want to get them again when i replace them which will before the next event. the stoptech bbk is an awesome kit.

[Okinawandrifter87]

^^ Street performance pads ifrom stoptech is what I read on the website, dunno if thats any help or if it gets narrowed down even more. Sorry.

[millsaps]

anyone that needs new calipers. advanced auto have reman z32 calipers for 70$ish
they still have nissan on them which is a major concern with them.

[onehundredoctane]

Why no silly color Z32 calipers?

Because Wilwood.
http://carolinanissans.com/spotlight/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/facebook_1157616124.jpg

[conrad_s13.5]

...still 4lug tho,...glws

lol...jk

[onehundredoctane]

...still 4lug tho,...glws

lol...jk

Pretty sure they didn't make the DT05R in 5 lug. Imported from Japan, and since been discontinued :mephfawk:party rockin 4 lugs like a boss.

[conrad_s13.5]

right,...cant take that from ya,...still dope

...id just want more wheel choices

[ixfxi]

i know this is totally off topic but what pads came with your stoptechs? i have long thrown the box away and i love the pads on mine so i want to get them again when i replace them which will before the next event. the stoptech bbk is an awesome kit.

axxis ultimate

funny, i dislike those pads. i like the standard axxis metal master pads, but the ultimates i DO NOT like.


btw, you still have XXR wheels? :P

[ch1873857]

axxis ultimate

funny, i dislike those pads. i like the standard axxis metal master pads, but the ultimates i DO NOT like.


btw, you still have XXR wheels? :P

i used the metal masters on my old car and i disliked those :wiggle: i dont even remember why. i just know i took them off prematurely.

axxis ultimate does ring a bell. maybe ill recognize the box..

and yes still have those XXRs. haha. shifted more of my finances into my business. I bought a new tig welder instead of g ass wheels. so far im content with my decision haha. havent had any issues with those wheels though thank god..

[Nintensity]

https://p.twimg.com/AtHl5P8CEAEYYNj.jpg

Was gonna go Teal-Saturated Blue but the powdercoater messed up the color and ended up with a tiffany blue / seafoam green color. took a couple hours rebuilding this morning (my first time) and should be on my car later on tonight!

Not sure what color to paint the "Nissan" lettering. I just shaved off the paint this morning.

[usdm180sx]

You would think that, but mine stay pretty much spotless....even on a 600 mile road trip. They really don't get any dirtier than the exterior of the car. Obviously pad type is greatly going to affect this. I have the standard pads that come with the StopTechs FWIW.

Well that's good to know :) If it was a wrinkle finish it would be a lot different

[240Cali]

that seafoam green came out FRESH I really like that..

[hotlavaflow]

^^^ I agree it was a good mistake

[arlok]

not power coated, spray painted myself

http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g424/arlokvtec/Brakes-08.jpg
http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g424/arlokvtec/KwV3-08.jpg

[1gr8bar10der]

Awesome, I'm going to get my R32 ones powdercoated soon too! Thinking of purple or orange to match my lug nuts. Now I just got even more idea...

[trevor34]

I coated some summer punch looked really neat.
http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/o484/trevor2086/IMAG0332.jpg

[NismoPlsr]

Nothing original but I just needed something to freshen them up and match the front Wilwoods. Textered black powder with polished Nissan.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k145/NismoPlsr/a508b951.jpg

[hotlavaflow]

Finally installed mine, thanks for the advice on the lettering. Not Z32 but still Nissan...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/hotlavaflow/IMG_20120522_190732.jpg

[ch1873857]

R33 calipers . nice.. my brother uses them. what rotor did you use

[hotlavaflow]

R33 calipers . nice.. my brother uses them. what rotor did you use

97+ Q45

I hear you can also use Stealth AWD Turbo or Mitsubishi 3000gt VR-4 AWD Turbo Rotors. If I knew that before I bought the Q45 I would have gotten those for the extra 2mm of width lol

[fyneyoungstunna]

do the letters on the seafoam clprs: red, dark blue, or be ballsy and do em pink.
I have a z32 and my calipers will be a neon purple or a anodized pink.

[s13love-green]

took mine to get powder coated then a rebuild and then ill post pics :w00t:

[s13love-green]

i seem to have trouble sliding in the c clips there being a pain in the ass any trick to it???
once the rubber boot is on do i press down completly on the piston then c clip?

[Russ]

maybe i missed it but how are you guys refinishing/re-plating the bolts and hardware?

[onehundredoctane]

Nothing original but I just needed something to freshen them up and match the front Wilwoods. Textered black powder with polished Nissan.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k145/NismoPlsr/a508b951.jpg

LOVE THESE, so clean! For those of us that aren't attention whores that is. . . I may have to cop a spare set of rear now to do this to!

[Jybfan04]

your just misunderstanding. or can't read. dual z32 is where its at

Hey, noticed you were local to me...

Who do you use for powder coating?

I'm in Clinton, MD!

[Broadfield]

maybe i missed it but how are you guys refinishing/re-plating the bolts and hardware?

I put together a zinc plating kit and plated everything.

My "meth" lab in the basement:D

http://images14.fotki.com/v380/photos/4/47612/3915226/IMG_3932-vi.jpg

http://images107.fotki.com/v780/photos/4/47612/3915226/IMG_3928-vi.jpg

[s13love-green]

Just got mine n rebuild
http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n619/jayuchiha21/IMAG0570-1.jpg

[KiLLeR2001]

I put together a zinc plating kit and plated everything.

My "meth" lab in the basement:D

[IMG]

[IMG]


Holy crap sir you never cease to amaze me. :bowrofl:

[ch1873857]

Hey, noticed you were local to me...

Who do you use for powder coating?

I'm in Clinton, MD!

yeah your pretty close. i use our shop for powdercoating. hit me up if you need anything

[Dorifto Machine]

The stages of my rebuild with powdercoating.

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9372/allstagescombinedtext.jpg

[twyztidmind]

I put together a zinc plating kit and plated everything.

My "meth" lab in the basement:D

http://images14.fotki.com/v380/photos/4/47612/3915226/IMG_3932-vi.jpg

http://images107.fotki.com/v780/photos/4/47612/3915226/IMG_3928-vi.jpg

LOL this reminded me of the Breaking Bad scene where the battery died on the RV!

[Miguelone]

I'm wondering why you don't all use R33/R34 calipers? They're cheap and they beat the crap out of 32R & Z32 gear.

[Hoffman5982]

I'm wondering why you don't all use R33/R34 calipers? They're cheap and they beat the crap out of 32R & Z32 gear.

They definitely are not cheap and don't "beat the crap" out of them

[Miguelone]

They definitely are not cheap and don't "beat the crap" out of them

Quick look on US ebay says they're cheaper than 32R calipers. Same size pistons, run the same size rotors with an updated and stronger caliper design...

[Hoffman5982]

How much do you think z32 brakes cost??

[Miguelone]

How much do you think z32 brakes cost??

Ebays telling me they're similarly priced. So why not go for the better calipers over the marginally cheaper ones?

[Hoffman5982]

Ebays telling me they're similarly priced. So why not go for the better calipers over the marginally cheaper ones?

I've never seen anything defending your claim about them being stronger. What I'm seeing is non-Brembo r33 brakes are $250 for the front, which I've seen front and rear z32 brakes, without the full ebrake assembly, go for $275-300.

Why not go for the same clamping force in the front and upgrade the rear as well?