Someone talke me out of trading my 240sx for a Miata....

[Natty]

Okay, I love my 240sx, it's the perfect car for me. Everytime I see it and drive it, I smile. It get the very same feeling driving now that I did 2.5 years ago when I bought it, sheer joy.

However, lately I have been looking into Miatas for 3 reasons. It's convertible, it's has the same characteristics that made my buy the s13 (rwd, weight, 50/50 dist, disc brakes, reliable, etc), and it's alot cheaper to mod. Theyc an be found with 5 speed and LSD's quite easily around here.

I will never be able to afford to turbo my aging KA or swap in an SR. I can get an older, early 90's miata, turbo kit, and hardtop for $5k. The other mods would come later on down the road.

The only thing that keeps me from selling it is that every last single person who has sold their 240sx has regretted it. I'm looking at my car right now, and it still looks damn good.
Any thoughts or input?

[JasonNagra]

I say keep the S13. Miatas are great cars, I got to drive one at Willow Springs and it felt nice. However I like my S13 A LOT more. I preffer the longer wheelbase too! S13 is a better looking car IMO.

[Natty]

Yeah, I agree, the S13 is alot better looking, but that's very subjective. I love the fastback :)

[old_s13]

If the S13 is the perfect car for you, then you wouldnt sell it.. and you wouldnt be asking us for advice.

If the Miata is a car that you like, you would own it already.

For me, the Miata is a fun car but the older models are too unsafe for my taste. Actually, I dont even trust the newer models in terms of safety. But safety aside, I love the car and very much appreciate its size and light weight chassis. However, what else IS there to the car? There's really no sense of practicality, its just a small commuter car for 2.. and 2 SMALL people at that. I am 5'8" and it fits me fine, but there are plenty of people I know who wouldnt be able to fit in that vehicle.

So if you want a Miata buy one. If you want a 240SX, keep yours -- it should be as simple as that.

- Mike

[matlock]

If you could keep your S13 and get the Miata that would be cool, you should try to do that, so that way you don't give up anything and you gain another car. I almost got a Miata and I am glad I didn't and im glad I went with the 240, this way I can actually carry like a 24 pack of soda and a friend in my car lol, jk but those miatas are so small I would get sick of the smallness after a while I think.

[joho101]

I own both a 240sx with an sr20 and a 2001 miata. They are both great cars and I love driving both. I also work at a racetrack and get to cruise around in spec miatas and they handle great but they could use a little more power. If i had to choose between a N/A 240 and a turbo miata I hate to say it but I would probably choose the miata. But not being able to fit that much stuff in the car does get kindof old. So if you dont mind sacrificing a little practicality then I say go for the miata and if you have to have your room dont even think about it.

[driftz240sx]

I remember reading that the miata was like #4 on the top 5 gayest cars. I think the beetle came in 1st

[joho101]

I dont think that you would say that they are gay when you see what kindof times they run on the track.

[typhoonslippery]

I want to get a miata as well ...I say do it

[Doriftomodachi]

if you ever get a sex change then you can buy the miata ;)

[Natty]

I'm secure enough in my straightness to drive a Miata, but thanks for the heads up. I really don't ever carry anything around, so I figure a 2 seater with a small trunk should be enough space. I'll test drive one first, obviously.

[thx247]

I'm looking at the miata for very similar reasons, easy on tires and brakes and I can get a CARB legal turbo kit on it for relatively little hassle. The only problems I have seen with Miatas thus far is that there is no space in them. I can take the 240 to the track and have in the back hatch area all my tires and tools and things I need. With the Miata I'm going to have to get a trailer or load up my crap in other peoples cars. Not too cool imo.

[clean]

your gonna get bias answers here since it is a 240 forum. just weigh out the pro's and con's and then decide. why cant you afford and sr20? if your gonna sell your 240 and get a miata you can afford an sr20. do whatever you want. and anyone who relates cars to thier sexuality is fucking stupid, saying someone is gay for owning a certain car is damm weak. either way its gonna cost to go fast.

[Natty]

your gonna get bias answers here since it is a 240 forum. just weigh out the pro's and con's and then decide. why cant you afford and sr20? if your gonna sell your 240 and get a miata you can afford an sr20. do whatever you want. and anyone who relates cars to thier sexuality is fucking stupid, saying someone is gay for owning a certain car is damm weak. either way its gonna cost to go fast.
Yeah, I figured someone would bring up the whole "gay car" stigma :rolleyes:
I know it will still cost to go fast, either way. I can get a Miata for $3.5k and a greddy turbo kit with an intercooler for another $2k.
I've honestly never researched SR's, but I always figured it would cost at least $4k. I already have put up a list of pros and cons of each, but it always helps to get an outside opinion :)

[NervGS]

Only idiots care if a car's "gay" or not. Insecurity at it's worst.

I owned a 97 S14 back in 2000, now thats gone, I got a 90' Miata in 2002. Ever since then, got suspension (KYB Buzz Spec, Mazdaspeed springs, JR sways) and a variety of wheels I've been borrowing from people here and there. I'll say this versus the S14, the Miata is 10x's more funner to drive just because of the handling alone. Sure, mini-van's will beat you from a stop, but after driving the car for a few weeks you won't care because you can out handle most things on the road (even at stock levels). It's fun to keep up with cars 2x's your power on twisty roads.

I say, keep the 240, save up for a Miata. I'm getting back into 240's again, and am doing the same thing, I got the SR in the backyard, and saving up for suspension, transmission parts and chassis.

Miata are cheap, I got mine for $2,350, it had 135,000 on it, top wasn't in the greatest condition, and paint sucked, but you can find much better ones in that price range (I was forced to buy one fast because school started the following day). Suspension I spent was $500 for everything, and I got a used Greddy turbo for $1,200 (including i/c piping, timing/knock controller, blow-off valve), spent a long time looking for a cheap Starion i/c ($70!), and 1.8 injectors for a carton of sake. Keep in mind this is for the 1.6, and the Greddy kit is only available in the 1.6. ALSO, used low-milage 1.6 blocks go for about $500 from Soken other engine shops out in SoCal, so they aren't very expensive. The stock 14's are really light and good, and also go good with Azenis (like $45 each), so its super cheap... Hehehehe.

I dunno what else to say, its a fun car, very reliable, and women like it. Kind of unpractical (live with it), but there are always ways around stuff like that.

Email me if you want more details.

-glenn

[brokenben]

miatas are nice.. but i will always be scared in one. if i bought a miata.. the first thing i would buy is a roll bar and a hardtop...

[thx247]

your gonna get bias answers here since it is a 240 forum. just weigh out the pro's and con's and then decide. why cant you afford and sr20? if your gonna sell your 240 and get a miata you can afford an sr20. do whatever you want. and anyone who relates cars to thier sexuality is fucking stupid, saying someone is gay for owning a certain car is damm weak. either way its gonna cost to go fast.

Since the SR is an illegal motor, its hard to put a price on the fact that the greddy kit is legal and the SR is not.

[TheTicTac]

if you want a turbo miata wait for the mazdaspeed version to show up. I hope the new coupe comes to the states, saw it at sema and it looks awesome.

[thx247]

Can't afford to wad up a nice new car on the track! A crappy used miata = who cares

[goodjuan]

http://www.grmotorsports.com/IMAGES/miatarota.jpg

[nightwalker]

I was owned by a miata on the touge. Those things are insanely fast. Get one and keep the 240. I secretly want one too.

[No Motiv]

night walker... dont you have a miata?

[old_s13]

I was owned by a miata on the touge.

Ah yes, I love it when people use JDM words. What about larger mountain passes? While the Miata may be a great handling car on lower speed turns, I doubt the car performs well on larger canyon roads where you can hit speeds of 80-100mph. I mean I agree that its a great canyon car, but words like "touge" are just so silly to use.


I remember reading that the miata was like #4 on the top 5 gayest cars. I think the beetle came in 1st

Its called small penis insecurity.. thats why there are still lots of "macho men" who drive Camaros and Firebirds and think they are not gay. ;)

[nightwalker]

touge, mountain roads, whatever. It's all the same to me. Yes, miatas, are fast, no I don't own one. touge touge touge touge. wangan wangan wangan.

old s13, the average speed on this "touge" that I was owned is about 70mph. Don't doubt the "gay man's" car.

[old_s13]

What do you mean by doubt? The Miata is a slug in terms of accelleration in stock trim, what is there to worry about? I like the Miata, I think its a fun car but just like the 240SX, Corolla GT-S, and various other cars. Lets not forget, these cars are typically pretty weak until tuned. (Not modified, TUNED).

Second, I just think its silly to use Japanese words on a US forum.. zenki kouki touge blah blah.. its one thing to UNDERSTAND another language, its silly to start using words as if they are cool. Its like people calling their 240SX'es "RPS13"

- Mike

ps: In my opinion, the Miata is pretty weak at higher speeds. If someone raced you in a Miata at higher speeds and you lost, you should look into retuning your S13.

[Grant]

What do you mean by doubt? The Miata is a slug in terms of accelleration in stock trim, what is there to worry about? I like the Miata, I think its a fun car but just like the 240SX, Corolla GT-S, and various other cars. Lets not forget, these cars are typically pretty weak until tuned. (Not modified, TUNED).

Second, I just think its silly to use Japanese words on a US forum.. zenki kouki touge blah blah.. its one thing to UNDERSTAND another language, its silly to start using words as if they are cool. Its like people calling their 240SX'es "RPS13"

- Mike

ps: In my opinion, the Miata is pretty weak at higher speeds. If someone raced you in a Miata at higher speeds and you lost, you should look into retuning your S13.

yup. technically we got the RHS13 (89-90 fastback) and the RMS13 (91-93 fastback)..

so should we start calling 240sx coupes TWO-VIAs now? :goyou:

[Doriftomodachi]

What do you mean by doubt? The Miata is a slug in terms of accelleration in stock trim, what is there to worry about? I like the Miata, I think its a fun car but just like the 240SX, Corolla GT-S, and various other cars. Lets not forget, these cars are typically pretty weak until tuned. (Not modified, TUNED).

Second, I just think its silly to use Japanese words on a US forum.. zenki kouki touge blah blah.. its one thing to UNDERSTAND another language, its silly to start using words as if they are cool. Its like people calling their 240SX'es "RPS13"

- Mike

ps: In my opinion, the Miata is pretty weak at higher speeds. If someone raced you in a Miata at higher speeds and you lost, you should look into retuning your S13.

This is America, espeak espanish! Seriously, it's a FREE COUNTRY. He can use whatever word he likes. If you think it's ghey that's your opinion

[nightwalker]

no worries. I'll continue to use "touge" and "sileighty" and the world will still go on.

[twitchy]

yeah worst part about getting a miata...telling your family your gay

[GlacierFreeze]

If you got one you wouldn't have to say anything.... :rofl:

[Natty]

I used to drive a Jetta. Trust me, I'm secure ;)

[NervGS]

yeah worst part about getting a miata...telling your family your gay

Please.

Stop being stupid.

And shut up.

-glenn

[thx247]

Just because a car doesn't have lots of power doesn't mean it is slow unless you are talking about straight line performance.

[NervGS]

Just because a car doesn't have lots of power doesn't mean it is slow unless you are talking about straight line performance.

Straight line, power, the Miata lacks it stock. Passing on the freeway is impossible without dropping a gear, and even then it's not very peppy, you just slowly, and I mean slowly see it rise (60 mph and up)...

Turbo, supercharger, and even tuned ITB or carbs will do the trick, even though I have a turbo, I'd rather prefer ITB due to the linear powerband (not to mention the sound... Mmmm...)

-glenn

[audaxpowder]

yeah worst part about getting a miata...telling your family your gay

"your gay"? I didn't know gayness was something you can take possession of.

Three things to make this world better:

1. Learn grammar.
2. Learn how to resize pictures of your car proportionally so you don't look like a tool.
3. Learn that just because you think you are faster than Civic doesn't mean you are. I'll could kill you all day long in touge with my FF drifts with my 74hp mouse.

Kids...

[RBBaby]

"Someone talke me out of trading my 240sx for a Miata.... "

No can do, buddy. miata + FMII turbo kit > 240sx + sr20det.

[twitchy]

Please.

Stop being stupid.

And shut up.

-glenn

Sorry.

It was a joke.

I didnt mean to offend you.


"your gay"? I didn't know gayness was something you can take possession of.

Three things to make this world better:

1. Learn grammar.
2. Learn how to resize pictures of your car proportionally so you don't look like a tool.
3. Learn that just because you think you are faster than Civic doesn't mean you are. I'll could kill you all day long in touge with my FF drifts with my 74hp mouse.

Kids...


Didnt know gayness was a word.

Grammar?! I should freakin learn grammar?!

"Ill could kill you in a day....."
or
"faster than civic"

Im not here to pick on spelling- you abviously arent too bright anyhow. Why dont you, your 4 posts and your FF Mouse use a little brain power before posting on this board or youll get flamed to hell, which doesnt count if its coming from someone with 4 posts, by the way.

[wanganwonder]

1. could you two please stop flirting?

2. It's been established that the miata's weak points are a) acceleration and b) storage space.

problem a is solved by the greddy turbo kit. with some suspension mods and good tires that car will be the ultimate track car. i've seen a turbo miata at the track and they're the shit, hands down.

problem b cannot really be solved but the potential buyer (sorry, forgot your name) already said he didn't really care.

for those of you who think miatas are "gay" or "chick cars," wait until this thing hands you your ass at the track and then see who looks like the bitch. i'd take a turbo miata over my s13 in a second.

[Natty]

I don't have many friends that I need to haul around, but I do know a couple guys with trucks, should I need them.
Honestly, the most storage I'll ever need is for when I go home on the weekends or when I get groceries. All of these easily fits in the back seat of my fastback, with lots of room to spare. The fastback is pretty good at hauling lots of stuff around though.

I really appreciate all of the serious input. The nest step is to test drive one and if I can live with it, I'll get one and a turbo kit with FMIC. I'll miss the 240sx though. Miatas don't really live up to my style, but a convertible looks fun (and no S13 convertibles, please).

[old_s13]

This is America, espeak espanish! Seriously, it's a FREE COUNTRY. He can use whatever word he likes. If you think it's ghey that's your opinion

Free country? Free country how? Does it not cost money to live here? Do we not pay taxes? I mean seriously, if you dont speak Japanese dont use Japanese words to describe "canyon." If you ARE Japanese then its good to remind yourself that you are on a US forum. :)

Personally, I dont care if people use the word canyon or touge, because to me I understand what he's talking about. The reason why using words like that is to keep idiots from over-using them. Touge, Kouki, RPS13, JDM, whatever.. just use them correctly.


thx247> Just because a car doesn't have lots of power doesn't mean it is slow unless you are talking about straight line performance.

Hey man, that car is FAST even though it does 0-60 in 10 minutes. Come on man, lets be realistic.. if a car does not accellerate it is not FAST. How many people say "wow this car brakes REALLY well, its a FAST car." Fast ALWAYS refers to how quick a car accellerates.


rbbaby> No can do, buddy. miata + FMII turbo kit > 240sx + sr20det.

Are we in math class? When you compare a car, dont be so plain in describing the pros and cons. While a turbo Miata is nice, a turbo 240SX is also nice. Both cars have their advantages. Its quite obvious the 240SX is a larger car and weighs more, but lets not forget the 240SX also has better highspeed stability than the Miata. Then again, larger cars like the Supra and Z have more stability than the 240SX. Then again, Murcielago has more high speed stability than both of those cars. So, whats the point? If you rate things, do it fairly.


twitchy> yeah worst part about getting a miata...telling your family your gay

hehe worst part about twitchy's posts is him revealing to us his stupidity. :)

[WilloW]

yeah worst part about getting a miata...telling your family your gay
:Ownedd: Hahahah I drove a Miata a few times, fun car to drive. Just too small for my fatass. Everyone will think that you're gay, especially when you're driving with your homeboy, think about how that would look. Give me one for free and I'll take it, but I would rather keep the S13.

[mbmbmb23]

If you like the looks of the car...go for it. Personally I don't think they look agressive enough for my taste, but the newer ones with the different headlights are starting to look ok I guess. If it were me (set on a RWD convertible) I would save up some $$, sell your 240sx, and get an older BMW M series convertible or an early Z3, OR....swap an SR into a convertible S13+ silvia front end conversion.

-m

[old_s13]

Everyone will think that you're gay, especially when you're driving with your homeboy, think about how that would look.

If you wear tight shirts and go cruising for a bruisin down Santa Monica Boulevard in West Hollywood, yes I am sure people WILL think you are gay. But then again, you can be driving nothing and just walking down Santa Monica Blvd -- and people will STILL think you are gay.

Lets get a lill scenerio here bitches. Put Tupac and BIGGIE in a silver Miata bumpin "bury me a G" with over-fenders and some badassed old-school Watanabe's and tell me how GAY they look.

You guys are retarded....

[twitchy]

[b]
You guys are retarded....

and your a cranky old man

:jerkit:

[s14 RL]

I own both a relatively stock s14 and a bone stock 1990 miata and would have to say that the miata is much more nimble and fun to drive. I'm the type of person who could care less about what the hell people think...hell my miata is the o so common red color but who cares. Looks are subjective.

I got my miata for relatively cheap (1200 for a 1990 with 144k miles, stock vlsd and hardtop) and replacement and maintenance tends to be relatively inexpensive. Because it's still winter, you can probably find a lot of good deals out there. Also, it's the kind of car you can rag the hell out of and it comes back for more. Be careful of 1990 and early 1991 models as they sometimes have crankshaft issues.

On the flipside, I feel a lot less safe in the miata. It has that tin can on wheels kind of feeling that doesn't inspire much confidence when approaching triple digit speeds. Recently I was in an accident on the freeway in my miata and saw my life flash before me (car in front of me flipped 3 times).

I know you have an s13 but if I had a choice between my s14 and my miata I'd still choose the s14. Less nimble overall, but is safer, has more space to carry stuff (miata trunk has both the battery and the spare taking up a big chunk of the already scarce amount of space), build quality feels better, and still has excellent potential on the track. It's all a matter of money and ultimate goals with the car.

Good Miata resources:

www.miata.net
www.miataforum.com

[thx247]

Hmm well, on the track the car is fast. The fact that it has a stock torson diff, and a CARB legal turbo kit make the car decent. Anyway lol...since when was the 240 gods gift to cars lol. The thing is a piece except for the cost.

[thx247]

Whatever Old, I'm not going to argue with you about whats fast and whats not. I've seen stock S13's beat supras on the track before, so I guess that makes the supra slow like the miata.

[holisticbeatz]

[b]Free country? Free country how? Does it not cost money to live here? Do we not pay taxes? I mean seriously, if you dont speak Japanese dont use Japanese words to describe "canyon." If you ARE Japanese then its good to remind yourself that you are on a US forum. :)

Personally, I dont care if people use the word canyon or touge, because to me I understand what he's talking about. The reason why using words like that is to keep idiots from over-using them. Touge, Kouki, RPS13, JDM, whatever.. just use them correctly.


Whatever your problem is, I'm sure your doctor can remove it from your vagina. :p

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[Grant]

ok.. well you want something to convince u not to get a miata.. soo.. (not like this wont happen to a 240) here:

http://www.kmil.com/localnews1999/Local%20News%20Archives%201999/Jul-Sep%2099/F7_Bus-Car3.jpg

http://www.kmil.com/localnews1999/Local%20News%20Archives%201999/Jul-Sep%2099/F7_Bus-Car2.jpg

[holisticbeatz]

Oh man.. that school bus got owned~!

[KiDyNomiTe]

Well I have a friend with a turbo miata, its a really nice ride, loud as hell, but really nice.

He drove my other friends SR'd Silvia, (miata has a little more power), and he loved it. But mainly becuase of the stiffness. 8/6 coils and Largus Sways compared to shocks and springs.

Even though he loved to mess with the car he still loves his miata and would never trade it for an S13. He is an autcrosser and a drifter and loves the car in both.

He has an S13 but its just to get him through winter.

To all those who think miatas are girls cars :fawk: , it attracts girls to have a convertible "cute" car, and it can still hand you your ass on the track.

I say go for it, miatas are fun cars, only problem is you'll need rollbars on some tracks or events.

[98sr20ve]

I was torn between the very same decisions. Miata with an add on turbo or S13 with the sr20det. I searched the Miata forums and was shocked how slow they were in the ¼ mile given the weight and HP to the wheels. It just seems that the car has a hard time putting any amount of hp to the ground. Not a huge shock really. On a roadcourse (which is really more my thing) they would not have this issue. Miata’s are just plan fast on the track no matter what the setting (especially autocrossing). The S13 has a lot of potential on the track as well. I wanted a car I could build up to challenge the M3’s and ZO6’s on the roadcourse. The S13 is better at this role due to the stronger engine and greater HP potential. In the end they are both great cars. I chose the S13 primarily due to its hardtop and greater size. I felt it was a safer car for the track and street. I know that sounds kinda lame but that’s what swayed me to the S13 in the end.

[98sr20ve]

Has anybody noticed the irony of this situation.
This is popular perception not mine…..

Miata = Girly Car that real men don’t drive
240SX = Much more manly car.

240 Drivers = Afraid to drive Girly car/Miata for fear of getting hurt.

[christopher]

Haha, so true.
I just don't think much of miatas. I drove my uncles grey 92(?) and allthough it was certainly nimble, it just lacked in power. Since I don't drive on twisty little roads or tracks all the time.

My biggest advice to you would be to just consider the type of driving you do. If you autocross all the time and never need real power, go with the Miata. If not, stick with what you've got or get ready to turbo that little thing.

[NervGS]

Has anybody noticed the irony of this situation.
This is popular perception not mine…..

Miata = Girly Car that real men don’t drive
240SX = Much more manly car.

240 Drivers = Afraid to drive Girly car/Miata for fear of getting hurt.



<don't take this the wrong way, I'm definatly not flaming you>

It could be said that this is a "girls car," but with that being said, it attracts them like honey does flies. I mean, don't get me wrong... It's nice and all, especially since I've spent all my life trying to attract women here and there, call it an incentive.

I'll accept the fact that some guys don't want this, it's okay, I understand. Some guys want cars that are attractive to other guys, if thats what anyone wants out of a car, thats their choice. But, being a fulltime student and working two jobs, I'm not in the position to buy a car to please anyone, but honestly, I can careless about what other people think, as long as I like it.

-glenn

[S13SilviaGirl]

Everytime I see a Miata............it reminds me..............................................







Of Corky Romano..............The "CORKSTR" ahhahahaa

[98sr20ve]

<don't take this the wrong way, I'm definatly not flaming you>

It could be said that this is a "girls car," but with that being said, it attracts them like honey does flies. I mean, don't get me wrong... It's nice and all, especially since I've spent all my life trying to attract women here and there, call it an incentive.

I'll accept the fact that some guys don't want this, it's okay, I understand. Some guys want cars that are attractive to other guys, if thats what anyone wants out of a car, thats their choice. But, being a fulltime student and working two jobs, I'm not in the position to buy a car to please anyone, but honestly, I can careless about what other people think, as long as I like it.

-glenn

I too could care less what others think of my car. For reference I drive a 98 Sentra SE. Most people don't even know what it is, even fewer know that it has a SR20DE stock, Then I went all NA to get 190whp and people say "should have gone turbo", Now I have a 92 Coupe also and people keep calling me "Mr. JDM" "Drifter" etc". I don't care. The car has great balance, tons of potential and RWD. I am in heaven. Can't wait to get it really set up well and on the track. I buy cars for myself (well, I do tell my wife about it). Funny thing is, she wanted the 240 for safety as well.

[NervGS]

Everytime I see a Miata............it reminds me..............................................







Of Corky Romano..............The "CORKSTR" ahhahahaa

Ah Lisa...

Thats why you're so awesome.

:)

-glenn

[HyperTek]

Id rock a Miata. Of coarse, id have to swap a 13B into it. hehe jk.

But on teh subject of small rwd mazda convertibles, I thought an old convertible FC would be cool too. Minus the cons of the rotory engine. Heck, someones swapped an SR into an FC here in thr states.

[KiDyNomiTe]

If the car that you drive makes you gay then you got issues with your own manhood.

Thats like saying all 240 owners drift, all civic owners rice out thier cars, and all domestic owners drag race.

[HiPSI]

my previous car was a turbo'd 1990 miata (lightest year they were made). i now own an SR'd 240. comparing the two is really hard to do, i like the power of the SR engine, but the miata was definitely more fun to drive.

i had AGX's/eibachs for suspension duty, greddy turbo/starion fmic, link ECU w/knock sensing, 2.5" exhaust from greddy dp back, Enthuza turbo catback, and a few other random things done to it for supporting mods. it dynoed 187rwhp and 179lb/ft of [email protected] 12psi with the little greddy/mitsu TD04 15G turbo. but, the car only weighed around 2300lbs so with that power level it still screamed. if i were to do it over again i would get a 94 model with the 1.8 motor and Torsen LSD and do my own turbo setup. all around it was a great car though, and i miss it a whole lot. i never got the gay car comments except when i first bought it completely stock. you MUST get a rollbar or the car does look a little fruity with the top down, plus the rollbar stiffens the car up a hell of a lot. mine had cooling problems so i sold out for a 240sx.;)


not sure if these will work but we'll see:

http://onlineshowoff.com/images/cars/1147/Miata02.jpg
http://onlineshowoff.com/images/cars/1147/Picture%20008.jpg
http://onlineshowoff.com/images/cars/1147/picture%20009.jpg

[Natty]

^^^ That is my plan. However, I paid $3100 + taxes for my 240sx. I looked up the trade in value for it, and it looks like a 170,000mile 5 speed LE in great condition (plus spoiler rust and torn seats) goes for $740. I laughed when I saw that. At best, I can expect $1600 for private party sales. Screw that.

I was hoping to get $2500, plus about $1000 of my own cash for a total of $3500 for the miata. Than about $1500 for the turbo kit and a tuneup.

I guess I may have to get the cheapest POS miata I can find, leave it stock, and drive it in the summer and the 240sx in the winter. Damnit.

I'm still gonna test drive the ones I was looking at and see what I can get for my S13....

[goodjuan]

^^^ That is my plan. However, I paid $3100 + taxes for my 240sx. I looked up the trade in value for it, and it looks like a 170,000mile 5 speed LE in great condition (plus spoiler rust and torn seats) goes for $740. I laughed when I saw that. At best, I can expect $1600 for private party sales. Screw that.

I was hoping to get $2500, plus about $1000 of my own cash for a total of $3500 for the miata. Than about $1500 for the turbo kit and a tuneup.

I guess I may have to get the cheapest POS miata I can find, leave it stock, and drive it in the summer and the 240sx in the winter. Damnit.

I'm still gonna test drive the ones I was looking at and see what I can get for my S13....


get the miata man. Life is too short

[MakotoS13]

i say keep it. miatas are nice cars and can be modded to be insanely rad but it will never be a 240. they're two totally different animals despite how similar they may seem.

if you like the miata better then go for it, you could die tomorrow, as someone already pointed out. just remember that 240's die all the time and the population ain't exactly bein replenished. i've looked all over and the best overall performance bang for the buck is the 240.

[justeno_heat]

Since the SR is an illegal motor, its hard to put a price on the fact that the greddy kit is legal and the SR is not.

Since when is the SR20 an illegel motor?

[NervGS]

Since when is the SR20 an illegel motor?

Since the RWD variation was never sold in the US, it is illegal to swap into 240's and such for street use... But swapping them into smog exempt cars (510, 1500, 1600, 2000 Roadsters, etc) are an exception.

-glenn

[a2low240]

my previous car was a turbo'd 1990 miata (lightest year they were made). i now own an SR'd 240. comparing the two is really hard to do, i like the power of the SR engine, but the miata was definitely more fun to drive.


Then have the best of both worlds, take the miata engine out and replace it with an SR20. That'd be one bad a$$ little toy.

I don't know of anyone who has done this yet but I'm sure it's gone across a few minds before.

[christopher]

It crossed my mind the minute I saw this thread. I have no idea how possible it is.

[CatchMyDrift03]

Now my brother has a hot miata which when i get my pics back up i'll post it. There are plently of mods for the miata and boy this thing can stop. i mean STOP!!! my brother is part of the Big Apple Miata club of NY. (if you go to there website you can see his car in the spring dustoff pic section he has the only white one, but now its lower by an 1,1/2") they go on some crazy trips but my brothers car def. gets the most looks. His friend has a turbo miata and he has just lifter rail protectors in the 1.8L and he is running 18lbs of boost through it( no joke but the mazda engines do have some potential). he can beat a 700cc street bike off the line and keep with it. its crazy fast and the handling of this car you can't compare. But in all respects to the 240sx, keep it!!! everyone wants a 240, not a MIATA!

[Toahk]

why did you bump this 6 month old thread?

[TheTimanator]

Well, I would assume Natty has already made up hid mind considering this thread is 6 months old....

[thx247]

Since when is the SR20 an illegel motor?


Mr. Technicality! You got me there!

I get you for spelling.

[Dweezil]

I have a friend with a miata, and aside from the lack of power, that car handels like nothing else. His is a `91 with a 1.6, and the only mods to it are flyin` miata rear frame brace, and front strut bar, racing beat front frame brace, hard dog double diagnol roll bar, ground control coil overs on KYB AGX shocks.

[HaLo]

Thank you for reviving yet another dead thread!

[psychoblue]

why not get both?

my 2 babies.

http://www.controlledspin.com/~ihatesr/yata/tan/twins.jpg

[nightwalker]

this thread has gone to "about a gay man's car" to being just plain "gay"

[miata8mycash]

I had a 91 FM turboI miata before my S13 that i eventually went SR in. The 240 is much more easier and pleasurable to drive. More capable in almost everyway in my opinion. But the miata still had a/c, was incredibly tossable and turned head like no other. I also like being able to eat fast food and such in my car, I reconmend saving for an SR unless u wanna keep it smog legal and size isnt an issue then gofor the miata.
Here was mine...

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/1/web/445000-445999/445378_8.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/1/web/445000-445999/445378_13.jpg