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Yamzinha
03-31-2012, 09:33 AM
Hey Zilvia. Im about to make the conversion from honda to nissan. Im loving the community, alot less hostile than honda and way more fun. I have a 1997 Honda Prelude that im about to sell and get a 240sx. Seeing as i am new to the nissan world, im not really to sure where to go other than getting the 240. I do know engine codes, sr20det, ka24det, single cam ka24e etc etc so im not clueless.
The point of this thread though is really to ask for a general, good starting direction for a new reliable 240. I want boost. So, ka-t or sr20det. on a 3,000 budget, where can i go?
7jpat
03-31-2012, 09:39 AM
going by your sig u already made up your mind but 3g for sr with u doing the work is cutting it close might not even happen , your going to get bashed / flamed , just do yourself a favor and search between the 2 , lots of threads on this
Yamzinha
03-31-2012, 09:47 AM
going by your sig u already made up your mind but 3g for sr with u doing the work is cutting it close might not even happen , your going to get bashed / flamed , just do yourself a favor and search between the 2 , lots of threads on this
I was actually looking for an introduction section to introduce myself and propose my ideas but i didnt see one.
Sorry to whoever may get upset by my post. i have done lots of research idk sometimes its better to get a personal and directed response to what it is you want to know.
sorry again if its a pest.
and naw not decided completely yet. just a basic general direction.
Well sometimes you can find a shell for a $1000 and you can find a sr for $1500.But my expierience with these cars is buy a decent car for $3000 and drive it.Save your pennies,because any of the boosted engines you are talking about are going to take some cash to do it right.I am on my 3rd 240sx and building this one hasn't been cheap to do it right.Save yourself the headache.
Yamzinha
03-31-2012, 10:53 AM
Well sometimes you can find a shell for a $1000 and you can find a sr for $1500.But my expierience with these cars is buy a decent car for $3000 and drive it.Save your pennies,because any of the boosted engines you are talking about are going to take some cash to do it right.I am on my 3rd 240sx and building this one hasn't been cheap to do it right.Save yourself the headache.
Sounds insightful. Experience beats research. so ill definitely keep this in mind.
Im selling the lude for 3,700. i just said 3k as a worst case scenario, doesnt sell for that extra 700. so, ill see. Gunna keep researching
iamthewinner
03-31-2012, 11:02 AM
Do even drove a rwd?
Don't just jump on to getting an madjdmtyte sr and crash it.
Oh and it's coming.
Yamzinha
03-31-2012, 11:44 AM
Never owned a rear wheel drive car but my step mom had a 05 m5 and my dad has a 07 tundra. And i drove those avidly. in rain etc etc. so yeah i know about oversteer and stuff. Im getting the 240 because i want something different and fun. Its the car i wanted as my first car but my dad got me an integra instead lol. Trust me, i wont crash it.
boostman747
03-31-2012, 11:58 AM
ok well since you want a turbo you have a cupple chooses you can do a sr20det red top im saying red top because it will be cheaper also you can do a ca18det not as much power but still a fun motor to play with anything is possible to be really reliable you just cant do crazy things run a safe tune and keep up on day to day check ups on it
Yamzinha
03-31-2012, 12:24 PM
ok well since you want a turbo you have a cupple chooses you can do a sr20det red top im saying red top because it will be cheaper also you can do a ca18det not as much power but still a fun motor to play with anything is possible to be really reliable you just cant do crazy things run a safe tune and keep up on day to day check ups on it
ca18 hmm. Forgot about that motor. Boosted i wouldnt mind but i dont wanna get a car thats slower than my current little honda lol. I need something atleast rated at 170-180.
And ill be at the tracks religiously once im set. so idk whats a good HP to get some decent drifting out of?
TougeSR20Kid
03-31-2012, 05:51 PM
Dude seriously I would recommend getting a somewhat stock clean 240 and just doing suspension and chassis stuff first. Learn how to drive it and then once ur comfortable in it then go upgrade and get a turbo set up for ur KA or get an SR swap. I know you have driven ur parents RWD cars here and there but an m5 and a tundra are way different then a 240 the weight distribution is different, the ride height and center of gravity is different, and so on. Get comfortable with the 240 by driving it as a DD and then add power.
TougeSR20Kid
03-31-2012, 05:56 PM
ca18 hmm. Forgot about that motor. Boosted i wouldnt mind but i dont wanna get a car thats slower than my current little honda lol. I need something atleast rated at 170-180.
And ill be at the tracks religiously once im set. so idk whats a good HP to get some decent drifting out of?
CA18det is rated at around 170 hp at the fly btw so this would satisfy ur needs plus I believe they are cheaper to build, and you can get a good amount of hp out of them when done right
Yamzinha
03-31-2012, 05:57 PM
Dude seriously I would recommend getting a somewhat stock clean 240 and just doing suspension and chassis stuff first. Learn how to drive it and then once ur comfortable in it then go upgrade and get a turbo set up for ur KA or get an SR swap. I know you have driven ur parents RWD cars here and there but an m5 and a tundra are way different then a 240 the weight distribution is different, the ride height and center of gravity is different, and so on. Get comfortable with the 240 by driving it as a DD and then add power.
Thanks for the advice. Appreciate it.
I wasnt really trying to say "Yeah meng i can drive rwd easy. i drive my peeplz cars all the time." but more overly just answering his, "Have you driven a rwd car" question. I understand about taking it easy though. Cant wait :bite:
EnemyS15
03-31-2012, 06:14 PM
Magic 8 ball says "find a stock clean 240 and slowly work your way in. Do not inherit someone else's nightmare"
94spitfire91
03-31-2012, 06:38 PM
Daily Drivers dont always make good projects especially if something goes wrong when you dont have enough money for proper parts. Start stock then you can see how much you like it and what needs to be changed. Im stubborn on that I dont think theres any other way to do it correctly. Taking in someone elses project can turn out very badly very often.
KiLLeR2001
03-31-2012, 06:45 PM
Hey Zilvia. Im about to make the conversion from honda to nissan. Im loving the community, alot less hostile than honda and way more fun. I have a 1997 Honda Prelude that im about to sell and get a 240sx. Seeing as i am new to the nissan world, im not really to sure where to go other than getting the 240. I do know engine codes, sr20det, ka24det, single cam ka24e etc etc so im not clueless.
The point of this thread though is really to ask for a general, good starting direction for a new reliable 240. I want boost. So, ka-t or sr20det. on a 3,000 budget, where can i go?
Just because you know engine codes doesn't say anything as far as research goes. I would learn the car in its stock form before upgrading power. It's also strongly adviseable to upgrade suspension / brakes before diving into power, otherwise you WILL crash it. I would almost bet the pink slip of my own car on that fact.
Good luck.
Yamzinha
03-31-2012, 06:54 PM
Magic 8 ball says "find a stock clean 240 and slowly work your way in. Do not inherit someone else's nightmare"
Yeah def dont want to inherit any nightmares lol.
Daily Drivers dont always make good projects especially if something goes wrong when you dont have enough money for proper parts. Start stock then you can see how much you like it and what needs to be changed. Im stubborn on that I dont think theres any other way to do it correctly. Taking in someone elses project can turn out very badly very often.
I dont wanna buy anyone elses project. Have i made it seem like thats what i want? O_O My main purpose right now is just to get a decent turbo 240. Id rather, either buy an sr20 or boost a ka24de. I would not/ will not do it right away seeing as im getting alot of warnings lol. So yeah ill work my own way in.
Just because you know engine codes doesn't say anything as far as research goes. I would learn the car in its stock form before upgrading power. It's also strongly adviseable to upgrade suspension / brakes before diving into power, otherwise you WILL crash it. I would almost bet the pink slip of my own car on that fact.
Good luck.
Just ment, i know the specs of a few engines :> but yeah ill take heed to the warnings.
Thanks everyone for the suggestions
Yamzinha
04-01-2012, 12:29 PM
Found this. 93 240sx SE (http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/2902687060.html)
Good start? i can talk him down a decent amount. I should probably be able to get it for like 900 or so. Is it really in the $350 to fix whats wrong with the KA?
stilmissmysti
04-01-2012, 01:55 PM
Depends what's wrong with the ka. Go drive it and see if it has any power left look listen and smell while you are driving it, its your call
TougeSR20Kid
04-01-2012, 02:20 PM
Oh man I just realized ur from Flo Rida, it all makes sense now...
On a serious note, if ur budget is 3gs ur prob not gonna be able to buy or build a legit and clean "turbo 240", a lot of people in here is suggesting the same exact thing buy a stock 240 get use to it and then build it. If u go about it the way ur talking ur gonna end up spending more money than u want on a half assed car and end up with a blown KA and a car ur unhappy with. SR is gonna be out of ur budget cus you're gonna need to buy a car like this with a shit KA and then buy a swap and install it URSELF, you may be able to do it but u will be buying a 20yr old motor and unable to build it for lack of funds.
I'm going to say this one last time and I really hope for ur sake that you take it to heart... BUY A STOCK 240, get a JOB (it u don't already have one), invest SOME of the remaining budget into doing suspension (u can get coilovers for under a grand), last and most important SAVE the remaining money from the budget for fixing things that break, because believe me THINGS WILL BREAK.
That's my advice take it or leave it, if you decide to keep along this path of a "turbo 240" for 3gs, don't say I didn't warn you when you come back here in 2 weeks or 2 months crying about ur cars all fucked up
Yamzinha
04-01-2012, 03:06 PM
Depends what's wrong with the ka. Go drive it and see if it has any power left look listen and smell while you are driving it, its your call
thank you
Oh man I just realized ur from Flo Rida, it all makes sense now...
On a serious note, if ur budget is 3gs ur prob not gonna be able to buy or build a legit and clean "turbo 240", a lot of people in here is suggesting the same exact thing buy a stock 240 get use to it and then build it. If u go about it the way ur talking ur gonna end up spending more money than u want on a half assed car and end up with a blown KA and a car ur unhappy with. SR is gonna be out of ur budget cus you're gonna need to buy a car like this with a shit KA and then buy a swap and install it URSELF, you may be able to do it but u will be buying a 20yr old motor and unable to build it for lack of funds.
I'm going to say this one last time and I really hope for ur sake that you take it to heart... BUY A STOCK 240, get a JOB (it u don't already have one), invest SOME of the remaining budget into doing suspension (u can get coilovers for under a grand), last and most important SAVE the remaining money from the budget for fixing things that break, because believe me THINGS WILL BREAK.
That's my advice take it or leave it, if you decide to keep along this path of a "turbo 240" for 3gs, don't say I didn't warn you when you come back here in 2 weeks or 2 months crying about ur cars all fucked up
I gotcha i Gotcha. thanks good sir
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