Pics of 18" Fn01r-c

[jedc]

Does anyone have pictures of the 18" fn01r-c wheels on either s13/s14? I haven't seen a post about this yet so I thought I'd start one.

[AadosX]

I'd like to see this too, I'm still deciding between these and the NISMO LM GT4's, and I've searched and searched but haven't been able to find any pictures of them on actual 240SX's.

[FRpilot]

I'd like to see this too, I'm still deciding between these and the NISMO LM GT4's, and I've searched and searched but haven't been able to find any pictures of them on actual 240SX's.

how can you compare Nismo LMGT4s to 5Zigen Fn01rcs? of course if its a money issue, but isn't the answer obvious? :confused:

[AadosX]

Well, yeah, money is an object to me. On one hand, it's only $700, but still, that is a good bit of money for me, being a college student. On the other, the FN01R-C's are LIGHTER, and a lot cheaper. Then, the Nismo's are more rare, and FORGED. Then, the Nismo's I can't use in that great of offsets, looks wise, (25 up front, 30 rear) but they fit the car better/easier with the offset's I'd use. The 5Zigen's have better looking offsets, but won't fit as easily (22 Front and 22 rear). Decisions, decisions.

[nokeone]

+25 +30...what are you thinking????

hello...norman...hello...

+12...:rolleyes:

17x9 1/2JJ ★+12, 5 114.3 \64,000

18x9 1/2J ★+12, 5 114.3 \70,000
10 1/2J ★+15 5 114.3 \72,000

[Dousan_PG]

how can you compare LMGT4s and FN01rc
wtf is wrong with you?!?!?!

[TougeRacing]

lol yea serious u cant compare them IMO LMGT4's r like...like i said u cant compare them!

[Siizzzoooo]

he should look into some konigs, high offsets rock!

[AadosX]

I don't have fenders, rolling, or want to use massive camber... I can't fit +12 dude, that would take a lot of work that I don't want to do.

[Dousan_PG]

rolling fenders you can do w/ basic tools
stop making lame excuses..

[JasonNagra]

I don't have fenders, rolling, or want to use massive camber... I can't fit +12 dude, that would take a lot of work that I don't want to do.


THIS IS EXACTLY WHY I MADE THAT DAMN POST YESTERDAY IN CHAT ABOUT ROLLING FENDERS. IT IS NOT A BIG DEAL. STOP BEING LAME WITH YOUR WEAK OFFSETS AND SUNKEN WHEELS. :rl:

[NZO]

Nothing personal guys but what is this now, the low wheel offset nut swingers association? Not everyone is willing to modify their fenders just to satisfy the opinion of others, just help the guy out without snide insults.

[Dousan_PG]

cuz AadosX has spoken of wide fenders in the past yet he changes his mind more then i change my underwear

he's more lost then nitekids.

[inertia]

not really sure, but they look like 18's


http://store3.yimg.com/I/jspec_1772_7530722

[Dousan_PG]

no 17s. nitekid's car

[nokeone]

yeah no sunk dish....

[bik]

Is me or those 5zigen fn01r-c wheels dont change much with the offset? i mean... the lip dont change it dont look deeper... the only thing than changes is the center where the lug goes O_O

[Dousan_PG]

w/ the 17x10 and the 18s its definately more noticable
slight change w/ the 17x9 iirc. i dont see a whole lot of the less then 9" widths. i saw a few from freidns but cant recall

also lip never changes
but the spoke sunken-ness does

[nokeone]

the new 18's in low offset are def noticeable....other sizes not so much...from what i have seen....

[AadosX]

I hinted at wide fenders but they are too expensive for me for now. On that thread I read last night about rolling fenders I saw all kinds of crap about chipping paint, etc... I care about the body of my car, and always keep it clean and in perfect condition, and I'm not as hard core race type as most of you, so there's my reason. Besides, even IF I rolled my rear fenders, that STILL wouldn't be enough for a +12 offset w/out massively stretched tires and/or camber which just hurts the tires more. I'm not rich enough to buy tires that often, I put about 2k miles a month on my car, well usually more.

[Dousan_PG]

I hinted at wide fenders but they are too expensive for me for now. On that thread I read last night about rolling fenders I saw all kinds of crap about chipping paint, etc... I care about the body of my car, and always keep it clean and in perfect condition, and I'm not as hard core race type as most of you, so there's my reason. Besides, even IF I rolled my rear fenders, that STILL wouldn't be enough for a +12 offset w/out massively stretched tires and/or camber which just hurts the tires more. I'm not rich enough to buy tires that often, I put about 2k miles a month on my car, well usually more.


CAMBER DOESNT KILL TIRES
its the combo of bad toe and camber
but bad toe w/ stock camber will still kill tires.

ive had the same tires at -3.5 degrees for 5 months. only changed them because of regular track use and abuse

[AadosX]

Dude, I know toe is what KILLS tires, but camber hurts some, at least more than normal camber. Can you really sit there and tell me that with 1 degree of camber I will get NO more miles on my tires than with 3 degrees.. driving the exact same? Seriously...

[nokeone]

bastard...i need RUCAs..and to figure out why the hell my fronts wouldn't go past -2 degrees...

[Dousan_PG]

camber does hurt but you wont lose tires every few months as you make it sound

i put nearly 2K and more per month and ive had the same front tires for 3 months w/ -3 degrees.

nokeone, its because your car sucks it hates you.

[nokeone]

that's true..it does hate me..and it punished me by sucking the Xterra into our lane..

[Steeles]

he's more lost then nitekids.

ouch man... very ouch

[lbcklik1486]

ouch man... very ouch

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[DoriftoSlut]

I don't see how you consider buying LMGT4's ($700 a wheel, retail) when thats ALMOST a full set of FN01RCs in the same size. And then you say money is an issue. WEll i hate to tell you this (no i dont), BUT YOU CAN'T AFFORD LMGT4s then. And you dont have enough money for pulled/wide fenders... how are you, good sir, going to afford $200 PER TIRE to fit those rims?

As for fender rolling and minor paint chipping... the paint that chips is on the inside. You cannot see it. Only feel it. I rolled my coupe's fenders tonight. With a propane torch, hammer, and shoe, in the dark.... NICE. Came out very good. Fucking pansies... Im sorry to rant right before i lie my ass down in bed and sleep for 5 hours, but come the fuck on! You wanna talk about 1 degree of camber? Huh? I would blast through tires with -1 degree camber. WHy? I FUCKING drive my car. When you drive hard (drift or grip) you need camber or you will constantly roll onto your outer sidewall and WEAR THE SHIT out of your tires. But i suppose if you just wanted your car to LOOK PRETTY you wont have to worry about this.

Stretched tires? HAH! In front right now i have 215/40/17. On a 17x9!!! Fuckin when you look at my wheel from the front, you can see both lips exposed, sticking past the tire (and the outside one sticking quite a ways past the fender... (+10 offset). Dude I stick quarters between my tire and my wheel lip.

Whats the use of "looking" hardcore if you aren't? "Oh, sweet LMGT4s... sooo, why are they all sunk in, and why dont you roll your fenders? Why is your car on stock suspenion and shit with $2800 wheels and $800 worth of tires?"

Whatever, its your car, and you should do what YOU want. But i, personally, dont see a car that has ncie wheels and give it props or drool over it. I would if it was running 3 degrees camber, had a busted up bodykit, stretched tires that tucked under the fender so much that the fender touches the wheel lip if compressed enough, etc...

Its the purpose for those things that counts... not the general "look" of a tuned car...

[Flybert]

Testify brotha man!!! TESTIFY!!!

[Siizzzoooo]

amen to that

[Dousan_PG]

he'll be like the Garage5 car hahaha


preach on! AMEN!!!

hahahahahaha
glad you got it done you lazy POS. did you roll the fronts too? if not ill do it when i get back.





THAT WAS THE GREATEST REPLY EVER IN THE HISTORY OF ZILVIA.NET! ARCHIVE IT!!!

[AadosX]

Holy crap what is in your ass?

First of all, I have Tein HE.
Second, I can get 4 LM GT4's for $1800.
Third, I think stretched tires look bad.
Fourth, if you will, call me a combo... I like to drive very hard and I compete in Auto-X, but don't drift, but I also like to keep my car looking good.
Lastly, who said I wanted the LM GT4's to "look" hardcore, I just like how they look and the fact that they are forged.

SO, can you just post fucking pictures and get off my back.

[nokeone]

:bowdown: kooooosher...

[Siizzzoooo]

stretched tires fyi arent for looks

[nokeone]

but they do look hot..

[AadosX]

stretched tires fyi arent for looks


I know... and they aren't for auto-x either.

[Siizzzoooo]

how bout this, what do YOU think stretched tires are for?

[nokeone]

I know... and they aren't for auto-x either.

this is just an example...

if you put 215 or 225's on a 7.5 inch wide wheel and it looks like shit...or you put 215 or 225's on a 9 inch wide wheel and it looks great then what is the difference performance wise when considering contact patch?..you're telling me that you are in any way capable of telling a difference?..i doubt it..

[AadosX]

You don't have to be able to tell a difference for the timer to be able to tell a difference. You may underestimate how huge even one second is.

[nokeone]

You don't have to be able to tell a difference for the timer to be able to tell a difference. You may underestimate how huge even one second is.

you must not autox very much...1 sec is rediculous...they are won and lost in the tenths...;)

[Dousan_PG]

hahaha
have you really DONE auto-x aados or just PLANNING on doing it? you DO own a 240sx riight??

[AadosX]

Yeah, just got it. I'm installing the motor as we speak. I've done auto-x, and tried drifting. Drifting is fun but gets boring. I don't like having things judged. BTW, I auto-xed in my last car, 2000 BMW 323Ci.

[AadosX]

But seriously, anyone actually have any pics?

[DoriftoSlut]

But seriously, anyone actually have any pics?
On car? JDMRice 2 (current pics.. like from DD12)

How they look? Alright. The 18x9 +12 looks the best. Everything else looks basically like the normal FN's. The +12s have a sunken in face like LMGT4 or TE37. But the spokes are still SUPER thin, so it looks like its a 28 inch rim (proportionally). I personally like thicker spokes, like LMGT4s or TE37s or Bee*R's etc...

Anyway, they are 18x9.5 CAST and thin spokes? Lightweight? No. Strong... MEh..... I would rather it be forged... Worth the cost? Yes if you are on a tight budget. Too many people have FN01RCs and the styling IMO is... so-so.

[AadosX]

I thought it was more like Lightweight? Yes. Strong? No. 17 lbs seems very light to me... Even the LM GT4's are 19 lbs. (18's for both)

[DoriftoSlut]

I thought it was more like Lightweight? Yes. Strong? No. 17 lbs seems very light to me... Even the LM GT4's are 19 lbs. (18's for both)
Do they list what width they weigh? Hah. Not saying they are pigs, but for how thin the spokes are they look like they should weigh 5 lbs.

Anyway, i ask about the width because irrc they make 18x7.5, no? That is a lot lighter than an 18x9.5

Also, why the fuck are you comparing them to LMGT4s. Seriously? They are not even close. I really think that in the SAME size (width and all) the LMGT4s will stll be lighter. If not... its close, and they are forged AND they have a LOT more material. That means a. they are stronger with more mass (thicker spokes, hub, etc.)and b. the forging process packs trhe molecules so densly that the wheels are much less brittle and the structure is much more stout. (more "matter" is forced into the mold). So you get a MUCH stronger wheel and about the same if not less weight.

Whatever... i am done answering this post. Why? you arnet willing to roll your fenders. Its stupid ignorance. It doesnt do anything to them visually (it can, but it doesnt have to if you dont want it to). You seem to be the kind of guy that drives his car "hardcore" but doesnt want to get it scratched. Liek those monkeys that drive touge with a brand new shiny car and expect it to stay that way.... and then get all bent when it gets hurt. DUH. Fucking driving right next to a cliff and a mountain!!!!!!!!!!! WTF, Mate^^?

[AadosX]

Dude, just yesterday I slammed completely sideways into a curb, the car shot 3 feet in the air, then I had to get 3 guys to push it out of the grass. I said, whatever, and got the car fixed... I know shit happens.

Anyways, I just don't feel the need to roll my fenders. And money doesn't grow on trees, but I'm the kind of person that says "the GT4's are only $700 more, and that's not THAT much money, so I COULD save an extra two months...". So price matters, but if its worth it, then its worth it.

I agree that they are prolly the same weight, and that the 5Zigen's could be lighter for how they look.

[DoriftoSlut]

Anyways, I just don't feel the need to roll my fenders.
:tweak:
Then get the 5 Zigens. Save $700 for something else and save yourself the embrassment of owning weaksauce LMGT4s and being known as "That dude that dropped a load of cash to get some shitty sized wheels and have it look all haggard. (yes, i promise you one day you WILL understand)

If you dont roll your fenders, there is no way your wheels will be any closer than 13mm or approx 1/2 inch from your fenders... :blah: (without running a 4x4 hieght suspension or rubbing der compression/turning).

Also: Why, if you autoX, get 18x9.5 rims? Get 15 or 16 lightweights (buddyclub/kosei) and 225 tires. Isnt there some class recriction to 225 tires. After that you have to run in a different class, in which 240s constantly get dominated ?

Also, 18x9.5 is fine for rear... but front.... 9.5 rim will hit yourTie rod and/or inner chassis seam. Well, the +12s prolly wont, but if you wont roll your fenders or stretch your tires, haw can i expect you to modify your fenders enough to fit those?

So i guess you will have some BLING fuckin BLING LMGT4s in bronze with a torn up and chunked (and now silver) inner lip due to the rubbing/cutting. Oh and your steering angle will then resemble something more like that of an FC3S... :down: :p

[AadosX]

Nah I'm going with 8.5 up front. I only compete against my clubs and friends, I don't take it THAT seriously. Besides, I live in AL, between here and even GA, there aren't nearly as many hardcore guys as out in CA I'm sure, it's not quite as competitive. I also care about how my car looks. I'm doing +22 front and rear with the 5Zigens.

[ryan hagen]

i got 225's on a 7" wheel, and i dont htink it looks and no one else has ever said they do, they dont stick out far like buldge out, but they are pretty flush witht he rim...........its personal preference how tires look, i dont like streched tire either...in wisconsin, especially northern WI its jsut asking to get your rim cracked on the death pits they have on the highway....the roads are so ruff here..............but thats just what i think......

this is just an example...

if you put 215 or 225's on a 7.5 inch wide wheel and it looks like shit...or you put 215 or 225's on a 9 inch wide wheel and it looks great then what is the difference performance wise when considering contact patch?..you're telling me that you are in any way capable of telling a difference?..i doubt it..

[AadosX]

Yeah I just understood this statement:

"if you put 215 or 225's on a 7.5 inch wide wheel and it looks like shit...or you put 215 or 225's on a 9 inch wide wheel and it looks great then what is the difference performance wise when considering contact patch?..you're telling me that you are in any way capable of telling a difference?..i doubt it.. "

But that's not what I'm doing... howbout putting 245's on a 9.5? That's what I'm doing. It's not like I'm starting off with a tire size and picking my rim from there.

[old_s13]

nokeone> if you put 215 or 225's on a 7.5 inch wide wheel and it looks like shit...or you put 215 or 225's on a 9 inch wide wheel and it looks great then what is the difference performance wise when considering contact patch?..you're telling me that you are in any way capable of telling a difference?..i doubt it..

Ive had 225/50's on an 7.5" wheel and they were complete blocks. I then put 245/45 on 8" wheels and again, they were complete blocks. Not sure if this applies to any of the discussion here but I figured I would post it.


aadosx> Drifting is fun but gets boring.

What in life DOESNT get boring? But drifting out of all the things shouldnt ever get boring because its such a dynamic form of driving.. and if you are GOOD at it, you can perfect your GRIP driving style by mixing it with a touch of sliding OR even better, being able to control your car when you're at the limit and the back end accidentally swings out for whatever reason (either going too fast, loose gravel, water, you name it). In my opinion, is just doesnt get any better than mountain driving.. whether its grip, drift, slipping, sliding, diping, diving.. whatever fancy name people want to give it, I think driving in canyons is the ultimate form of driving and I will never get tired of it. If drifting is "boring" then that just means you need to get off of the course and onto a canyon where you have the side of a cliff to remind you how UNBORING it really is. Real life canyon driving is the only way to balance out fun, speed, and also manage your ego/adrenaline which always seem to want to take control..

- Mike

[chuy]

Some frekin pics

[AadosX]

^^ Seriously, what he said.

I'm sure it wouldn't get boring if I took it really seriously, but I'm just not into it... I'm not the guy who buys a 240SX and "starts drifting." I realize it's very very hard, I'm not bashing on it or anything.

BTW, driving, for me, NEVER gets boring. I put almost 4000 miles on my 323Ci the FIRST month I got it. And that was just driving around town, maybe 500 of that was on the interstate.

[AceInHole]

Also: Why, if you autoX, get 18x9.5 rims? Get 15 or 16 lightweights (buddyclub/kosei) and 225 tires. Isnt there some class recriction to 225 tires. After that you have to run in a different class, in which 240s constantly get dominated ?
18x9.5's would actually be illegal for STS or STX. IIRC, STS = 7.5 max rim, 225 max tire, STX = 8in. / 245 max. If i had the $$, i'd run the 18x9.5's for Street Mod, where you've got enough power to use them, and with DOT's end up with a sidewall stiffer than any amount of stretching.

As for moving up to different class.... psi_allen and I both dominate the SM class for our respective regions. halo rocked the rookie class with his SM car on street tires for his region as well. the only reason it looks like 240s get dominated is that not a lot of 240sx owners are really into autocross enough to do well (gain the experience and spend the money). most of the guys are just trophy fodder.