Drop engineering coilovers

[BONIN240SX]

I Know this usually starts an epic fail battle but im seriously considering them and they have been great answering my questions for them so just in case anyone else is interested or is looking for info:

s13 drop engineering coilovers:

720.00 shipped!
the thread pitch on shock body is m52x1.5 (same as pbm comp)
drop just over 4 inches acording to there tech department.
and heres the kicker........LIFETIME WARRANTY!

All i need to so is find some pbm z32 lower knuckle adapters if anyone knows where i can get some used or new without a long ass wait, and then i will be ordering and righting a lengthy review.
as always thread is open to opinions. and of course flaming is expected thank you

[future]

For three more hundred you coukd have real PBM

[BONIN240SX]

LIFETIME WARANTY IS WHAT IM GETTING AT HERE!! ;)

i realise for 1000 plus your months of waiting you can get pbm's,

[Touge180]

Bet you that lifetime warranty comes with alot of hassle.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Thats the thing...just because they say life time warranty doesnt mean they'll actually warrant/replace it.

[Touge180]

Yep your going to have to jump through alot of hoops to get them to honor that i would just suck it up and buy legit coilovers.

[jaysgottaredtop]

fortune.




...but seriously, fortune.

[ship2236]

Lifetime warranty doesn't do much for you if they don't sell enough units to keep their doors open and lights on forever lol.

[TheRealSy90]

Fortune fortune fortune

[BONIN240SX]

They have been a round quite a while...dsm and honda comunity uses there mounts quite a bit and they stood behind there warranty great for my freinds engine mounts. granted that is just an engine mount..on the phone with the rep(ams performance) they said they dopnt have hastles with warranty verry often at all, and the guy i talked to even said if im in an accidant and take pictures of a weld breaking or the body bending they will replace it no questions asked. that beeing said i do understand where you all are coming from. i can tell you i have a d%^K the size of a horse but when it comes down to proving it id most definatly come up short....:facepalm:

I guess well see what happens i realy want pbm's but i realy cant stand waiting over a month to get something i paid for....

[pacotaco345]

Your spelling, grammar, and association with the honda and dsm community lead me to be un-surprised at your decision to buy these coils. Then again, I was in your position once, about two years ago. I bought E-Motor coils off of ebay for $450, ran them on my car, had to droop the rear springs 2 inches in order for them to look decent, dampers blew in 6 months, etc. The only good thing about those cheap coils was that I was able to trade them for PBMs when my friend sold his car. But hey, they're coilovers, they have to be better than stock right?...

Edit: Maybe there's a reason why PBM has a wait on their parts and drop engineering doesn't.

[BONIN240SX]

My spelling/Grammar is to be partly blamed on me smoking a cigarette on break at work typing this up on a phone...my apologies for upsetting you with my poor engrish. I never once nocked PBM i love them and chances are if i was trying to build a car to take to the track on a budget they would be my choice, however im not. Im sorry about your choice to buy e-motor coils and subsequently them sucking ass. Im sure you also saw this coming. Now onto the dsm thing, if you search(like i did) for reviews theres tons of happy customers in the dsm community this does not make me apart of it. I grew up around honda's and they ended up being one of the first things i fell in love with, i just sold my acura rsx type s last year because of boredom and having the same thing everyone else had. That being said i ended up here with a 240sx that i stumbled across for a decent deal in Wisconsin that's not completely rotted out. but no matter how i look at it its a midwest 2000$ car that i cant justify spending all of my income on that you blessed people in cali can. I don't mean to come off like im upset, im not, i expected just the mere thought of someone considering a new product to be flamed upon, however i didnt expect to be flamed for being into another car besides my 240sx. i guess my point of this thread was to inform people who were "interested" in the new product of information ive learned about it so in the future people can do a google, end up here, and see that hmmm a pbm z32 sleeve will fit these or that thus far i have had good experience with them as a company. that is all

edit: yes most people in the dsm and honda community are cheep ass morons. just testing the pavement on a road you and apparently no one else has traveled. thanks

[pacotaco345]

Me on a typical unemployed California high school kid budget was able to scrape enough money together to attain PBM coils and adjustable arms. I'm not saying PBM is the best, but they are known to be a quality product. I was not given money by my parents, I was not helped out by other family members. I worked my ass off mounting tires on a 50 dollar harbor freight tire mounter for two summers to fund my car. Also, what does location have to do with your ability to spend money? And right now I reside in Texas anyways because I was fed up with California. I traveled on the path of cheap, unknown coilovers and paid the price for it. If I were to do it again I would much rather save up and get a quality product.

[BONIN240SX]

I'm saying our cars aren't as clean(i have rust on frame and suspension components) and without storage probably wont last two more years. i make enough money that i could easily drop a 2j and put kw coil overs on this thing. point is im not dumb enough and it would be a huge loss 2 years from now.

[PoorMans180SX]

Look, green Megan Racing coilovers!

Hahha. But seriously, save up some more and buy some real coils, you won't regret it.

Fortune, Feal, PSM pro, etc.

[OBEEWON]

Why is fortune on a 4 week delay?

Also I had no clue they were made in Taiwan too. Is ANYTHING made in the US anymore??

[PoorMans180SX]

Why is fortune on a 4 week delay?

Also I had no clue they were made in Taiwan too. Is ANYTHING made in the US anymore??

Ummmm... Not really. Not till you get into the $3k range for dampers and springs.

[Newtypex]

Ummmm... Not really. Not till you get into the $3k range for dampers and springs.

Since your asking this question I'm gonna assume some things.

Good dampers start at $2500. Will drop engineering coilovers do what you want them to do(slam your car)? Probably. Now will these cheap coilovers perform on a linear level? Nope. Will you know the difference between a good performing damper and a poor one? Probably not.

[Newtypex]

PoorMans180sx - Wasn't trying to put you down with that quote.

It was meant to point out that poor Chinese quality parts are cheap purely to produce sales. Quality U.S. built dampers cost $3k because function is expensive.

[LockOn!]

I just pre-ordered PBM. 3 - 4 weeks till they're in.

The wait just makes it that much more exciting. Buck up and get the good stuff the first time.

[ship2236]

U can always find a used set of apexi's aswell. My
N1 32ways r almost 4 years old, go super low and have prolly 30k on them still holding strong. Plus it's top quality. U can find used for $700 or so

[BONIN240SX]

Thank you for the input and replies I did decide against them because they are way to middle ground and close to price of "decent" coils out there. Could be the needle in the haystack but I'm not going to find out at that price... Thx again

[fliprayzin240sx]

Shit, for $700, I would have given them a shot. They sell exhaust for Ferraris!!!

[mkezzo16]

I second this, find some used legit coilovers in good condition for that price. I bought some tanabe sustec basic coilovers for like 450 . They do the job and have held up just fine.

[cnile51]

Drop Engineering= Mishimoto.

Same Company. Hence the Lifetime Warranty.

Address to contact is the same:

PO Box 8250
Wilmington, DE 19803

Try them out and put up a review.

[Corbic]

fortune.




...but seriously, fortune.

Fuck Fortune. I have a set of the old 500's, maybe 300 miles on them as my car has sat since install. Covered in surface rust... FROM SITTING IN A GARAGE.

[jesse_s13]

Fuck Fortune. I have a set of the old 500's, maybe 300 miles on them as my car has sat since install. Covered in surface rust... FROM SITTING IN A GARAGE.

Pictures?:wavey::wavey:

[zooopreme]

Fuck Fortune. I have a set of the old 500's , maybe 300 miles on them as my car has sat since install. Covered in surface rust... FROM SITTING IN A GARAGE.

Before anybody overreacts and say that FA's suck/they rust/whatever...

The old 500's were not pre-lubricated with whatever they use to prevent rust.

I've had the newer 500's for almost 3 years now & I have no rust.

[daftphunk]

my Fortunes are fine.

[arens13]

I have had drop engineering coilovers on my s13 for 2 years now and not had a single problem with them. Honestly they were worth every penny I spent. I can go lower than the we drift cars (total body height kuz I dont have a body kit) and I get Better traction in the corners than my friends with pbms and stance super sports (my car is autocrossed, not drifted). Ive always told people that drop coilovers are great coils and they are! Just because they have a smaller name and are less expensive doesnt mean they work any worse than overpriced name brand coils. Btw I adjust them once a month at the least and they have no rust or wear. And they have about 30,000 miles on them and counting

[slw240sx]

Pretty sure Mishimoto dropped the Drop engineering brand. I havent seen any part numbers available in a while.

[kOOpA]

If you spend less than $900 on coilovers, you're gonna have a bad time.

Why on Earth would you be so impatient and actually SPEND MONEY to make your car ride like a bag of smashed assholes?

[slw240sx]

If you spend less than $900 on coilovers, you're gonna have a bad time.

Why on Earth would you be so impatient and actually SPEND MONEY to make your car ride like a bag of smashed assholes?

because most people can not tell the difference, nor know how to properly setup the coilovers to even make the nicer ones ride correctly.

[slw240sx]

also after dealing with customers looking for coilovers every day. I can tell you hardly any of them care about ride quality, they think all coilovers are going to ride like shit so they just want what ever they can afford with the money they have in their pockets. I have people passing up 650.00 ISIS for 300-400$ beat to crap used coilovers from ebay. they could be leaking and blown and they will still waste their money on the used crap instead of saving one or two more pay checks to get something brand new and a few hundred more.

[kOOpA]

also after dealing with customers looking for coilovers every day. I can tell you hardly any of them care about ride quality, they think all coilovers are going to ride like shit so they just want what ever they can afford with the money they have in their pockets. I have people passing up 650.00 ISIS for 300-400$ beat to crap used coilovers from ebay. they could be leaking and blown and they will still waste their money on the used crap instead of saving one or two more pay checks to get something brand new and a few hundred more.
I don't even like ISIS. My buddy put ISIS on his coupe and I honestly couldn't tell the difference from his 50 year-old stock suspension, except the car was lower. I'd be so pissed if I spent $650 on them. YOU KNOW HOW MUCH PIZZA YOU CAN BUY WITH $650!?

Ride quality must be a greater improvement in quality of life than the amount of pizza you can buy with the same dollar amount. If you get in the car, and you're not like "yeah fuck pizza this shit feel good bruh", then you've done alright.

[slw240sx]

I don't even like ISIS. My buddy put ISIS on his coupe and I honestly couldn't tell the difference from his 50 year-old stock suspension, except the car was lower. I'd be so pissed if I spent $650 on them. YOU KNOW HOW MUCH PIZZA YOU CAN BUY WITH $650!?

Ride quality must be a greater improvement in quality of life than the amount of pizza you can buy with the same dollar amount. If you get in the car, and you're not like "yeah fuck pizza this shit feel good bruh", then you've done alright.


makes sense. pizza places should offer credit cards... I would get one...

[Highway Riding]

I had DE coilovers on S14 and they were 100 times better than the stock suspension and actually were pretty comfy. Packaging was actually also better than some top brands. Sold the car so not sure how the new owner likes them

[dorkidori_s13]

*facepalm* about 90% of the s-chassis scene buys coilovers for dropping their cars to the ground and for a "stiff ride". well, thats exactly what MOST "cheap" coilovers do. for the most part, most 240 kids dont give a shit about the actual performance of the coilover theyre buying just as long as it goes to the ground and rattles their fillings out over bumps.

i dont get how kids act like $1000 coilovers are EXPENSIVE!?!?!? thats dirt ass cheap! in the real world, GOOD coilovers start at the $2500 range and thats for ENTRY LEVEL ONE WAY ADJUSTABLE COILOVERS!

point is, there are a ton of sub $1000 coilovers on the market, theyre all shit. but if you want something thats stiff, will put your car on the ground, that will replace your blown struts/shocks, help you learn to drift/road race and fit within a limited budget, quit bitching and just buy a set of $500-$700 coilovers. if drop engineering is offering a lifetime warranty, then by all means buy them and take them up on that offer when the time comes!!!

if you want a quality coilover thats a cut above the rest, buy fortunes, buy stance, buy BC or buy PBM. theyre not top of the line, but theyre all DAMN good for the price! i can personally attest that Fortunes rival coilovers that cost twice as much! the valving and spring rates are matched properly and provide a firm but forgiving drive around town! crank them up to higher damping settings and they provide the stability for any type of drifting and road course racing a novice/intermediate like me (and yes YOU!!!!) could throw at them!

trust me, youre not a drift god, youre not a track god, your car doesnt make 300+whp, your car is not a trailer queen, you dont need rear end squat or proper corner balancing, and you DONT need $2500 coilovers because all you want to do is drop your car to the ground! stop bitching and buy the $500 coilovers! theyre made for a reason!

[arens13]

I had bc coils on my old 240 and im so much happier with the drops. They have a stiff ass ride around the corners, which i like, and at low speeds on a shitty road they do suck, but thats any car with coils. But anything over 100 rides like bags. Smooth but still crisp and responsive. It also helps that I have done more to my suspension than just coils.

Tl;dr - drop engineering coilovers are defiantly worth their money. You can get better coilovers but as far as price for quality it'll be hard to find better. Especially on a budget.

[DialedLife]

4 inch drop max? That's not even low at all