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denian_cellphone
03-06-2012, 09:04 PM
I feel that everyone should watch this video. :wiggle:
KONY 2012 on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/37119711)
37119711
pogstar
03-06-2012, 09:41 PM
beat me to it, I just came here to post this!
DJPimpFlex
03-06-2012, 10:58 PM
Unbelievable. Shared.
collegekid
03-06-2012, 11:55 PM
FUCK. I just put that in the off topic section, and i too dont know how to embed the video. Still, its 1 million times more important to share the video than it is to buy stuff like the kits and what not.
all show no go
03-07-2012, 12:52 AM
That kit idea is so stupid. Why doesn't some hotshot celebrity, or the celebrities they supposedly already have supporting this cause just loan them all the money they need? Fuck, this unity thing, propaganda idea is so stupid.
Celebs have the money, let working Americans worry about making ends meet before they feel they should be donating to help the unfortunate.
Matej
03-07-2012, 01:13 AM
What makes this Kony guy stand out from the hundreds of other crazed murderous leaders of guerrilla armies that are running around Africa?
Do they plan to make a video like this for every single one of them?
ThatGuy
03-07-2012, 01:20 AM
What makes this Kony guy stand out from the hundreds of other crazed murderous leaders of guerrilla armies that are running around Africa?
A YouTube and Facebook propaganda campaign.
Do they plan to make a video like this for every single one of them?
Only if it gives some random film student an A so he can put it on his résumé and grow up to fetch coffee for Michael Bay.
Matej
03-07-2012, 01:22 AM
What about impoverished people in South America?
And babies in China?
Genocide in Indonesia?
Global warming?
I feel I need some more time to shop around for a cause most deserving of my sympathy.
So far, Sarah McLachlan is clawing at my heart and wallet the hardest.
DS562
03-07-2012, 02:12 AM
^ this is nothing more than a flash in the pan movement. give it 2, 3 weeks tops and you wont hear about it again. i guess death tolls and numbers dont matter. to get a reaction out of america, you need a youtube video and a bracelet kit.
tootall4la
03-07-2012, 02:17 AM
As it states in the Video. It will fade
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deolio
03-07-2012, 02:59 AM
i can't deal with all the hype and the dubstep.
hipsters just need something new to focus on now that the occupy movement is dead.
also, 4/20? SERIOUSLY. fucking dumb date asshole.
nomoremk2
03-07-2012, 07:20 AM
Wow some of the reactions to this video are a real bummer. Why is this not a good cause? Also, the kit is about awareness, not so much money. You can say hipster this dubstep that but the core issue here is what matters. No one should be getting away with child abduction on a large scale. They chose a target and are doing their best to take him down from another country. Sounds pretty awesome to me.
Grocery Cart
03-07-2012, 07:35 AM
Wow some of the reactions to this video are a real bummer. Why is this not a good cause? Also, the kit is about awareness, not so much money. You can say hipster this dubstep that but the core issue here is what matters. No one should be getting away with child abduction on a large scale. They chose a target and are doing their best to take him down from another country. Sounds pretty awesome to me.
Because Invisible Children are misinforming people. Watching this is like watching your local news station..4 years ago. This has been going on for many years, the only reason it's getting big now is because of all the hype on the videos. More than likely, that money is going straight into their pockets. Besides, Kony is basically on his last leg. He was run out of Uganda, struggling for food, he's basically on his death bed.
But in the end I agree it's something people should be aware about. In fact it should have been known years ago. The cause is great, the execution.. not so much.
nomoremk2
03-07-2012, 08:00 AM
I hope I'm not starting a war here but what exactly are they misinforming me of? Also credible sources of your information? I'm not on either side but if you're saying this film is bs I'd like to know why.
Grocery Cart
03-07-2012, 08:08 AM
Three years ago they showed us a film at this church thing I went to from the same guys, and it was basically the exact same. I'm actually at school right now, so I couldn't show you anything I've read :P
I'm not saying the film is bs by any means. I think it's great what they're doing, and without them I think 90% of people wouldn't know about this. It's just that they're in a way living in the past. They're talking about how it was, and not how it is today.
And no war here, each is titled to their own opinion :wiggle:
stunnaben
03-07-2012, 08:25 AM
^ this is nothing more than a flash in the pan movement. give it 2, 3 weeks tops and you wont hear about it again. i guess death tolls and numbers dont matter. to get a reaction out of america, you need a youtube video and a bracelet kit.
Where is the damn like button when you need one. America doesn't want to help if it actually requires them to do something.
Think about this, look at all the crime in Detroit, we won't even do anything about abolishing that. Honestly we need to enforce Martial Law and take back that city.
One thing I've never, ever understood is the whole gang thing. Why the hell do people think they have to run around and cause so damn much mischief?
Kingbaby
03-07-2012, 08:36 AM
free will? Greed? GET MONEY FCUK B!TCHES!
this is just the new thing...will fade soon...so much wrong going on...blinders help americans focus...
stunnaben
03-07-2012, 08:59 AM
Seal Team 6
/Joseph Kony
Arireese
03-07-2012, 09:25 AM
i can't deal with all the hype and the dubstep.
hipsters just need something new to focus on now that the occupy movement is dead.
also, 4/20? SERIOUSLY. fucking dumb date asshole.
all of this..
all of it
!!!
denian_cellphone
03-07-2012, 09:26 AM
FUCK. I just put that in the off topic section, and i too dont know how to embed the video. Still, its 1 million times more important to share the video than it is to buy stuff like the kits and what not.
FORREALS -_- i been trying to figure out how to embed the video as well. I edited this post like 325982395 times trying to figure it out ahah
As for the movement, all I'm going to do is share this video and that's most likely it. HOW did I not notice the "4/20" date. -__- It's funny because I might actually do the poster thing but probably because on that night, i might find it really really really fun...:angel:
Grocery Cart
03-07-2012, 12:09 PM
free will? Greed? GET MONEY FCUK B!TCHES!
this is just the new thing...will fade soon...so much wrong going on...blinders help americans focus...
Basically this
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murda-c
03-07-2012, 12:20 PM
Seal Team 6
/Joseph Kony
Doubt he's worth their price tag to the gov't
DS562
03-07-2012, 01:41 PM
im sure some contractors are interested in the job. i wonder what the rate is on Kony, if anything.
HyperTek
03-07-2012, 03:03 PM
I wonder if Kony knows how badass he is, got people in the big power USA knowing his name and buying his memorabilia. Probably living the dream like Scarface, Awesome!!
It is a good cause but I just don't agree with it.
Matej
03-07-2012, 04:22 PM
http://i.imgur.com/K3mgn.jpg
Dolph_KYAS13
03-07-2012, 05:27 PM
im not donating to any money to an organization that pays their film maker over 80k (on paper)
This charitable organization, if you can call it that, has such a high administration cost. proving that all your money isnt going towards a cause. Its almost as bad as the world vision workers repping new Land Rovers over seas.
Long and short is if you want to help out. go to your local salvation army, soup kitchen, food bank or whatever and volunteer.
by buying these "kits" you're just making someone rich.
anton1o
03-07-2012, 06:16 PM
Definetly going to be donating to such a company like invisibubble children..
This URL has alot of info about invisible children and what they are spending there donated money on..
http://visiblechildren.tumblr.com/
CrazyIvan
03-07-2012, 06:19 PM
What a bunch of bull... Seriously, if you care so much about another countries problem why aren't you helping our own neighbors like Mexico with the drug war?
We need to let other countries defend and deal with their own politics.
terrence
03-07-2012, 06:35 PM
picture
Holyshit, that is bangerang.
EsChassisLove
03-07-2012, 06:44 PM
Has anyone informed these gullible dipshits that Mr. Kony has been in hiding and done jack shit since 2006? The video is old. Circa 2008.
Yes, theres still shit happening in Africa, as is there is shit happening here that the majority of you ignorant fucks do not have a clue about.
It is propaganda bullshit to get one thing....MONEY. Holy hell....crazy.
Grocery Cart
03-07-2012, 06:53 PM
Has anyone informed these gullible dipshits that Mr. Kony has been in hiding and done jack shit since 2006? The video is old. Circa 2008.
Yes, theres still shit happening in Africa, as is there is shit happening here that the majority of you ignorant fucks do not have a clue about.
It is propaganda bullshit to get one thing....MONEY. Holy hell....crazy.
This is what I was trying to say.. It's the past.
ESmorz
03-08-2012, 05:00 AM
I know everybody has a huge hard on for Joseph Kony right now because the fine people (with their questionable charity ethics) over at Invisible Children are rallying the troops with a new video, but I feel like there is something everyone needs to keep in mind. While he may be a bad dude and what he has done is nothing but deplorable, the numbers of the children the LRA abducted hover around ~65,000 in over 20 years.
Now I encourage you to look into Uganda's President who has abolished term limits, violently suppressed any opposition to him politically, and instigated the occupation of the DRC which resulted in around 6,000,000 deaths (almost 100 times worse in terms of body count than Kony has managed to rack up) albeit through more traditional means. All I'm saying is, maybe Kony isn't the worst guy in Uganda, who probably isn't even in Uganda anymore. Maybe I'm wrong but I doubt some perspective ever hurt.
Now here's some numbers:
"Compensation of Leaders | % of Compensation relative to amount of money made by IC | Title
$88,241 | 0.99% | Ben Keesey - CEO
$89,669 | 1.00% | Jason Russell - Co-Founder/Filmmaker
$84,377 | 0.94% | Laren Poole - Co-Founder/Filmmaker
Revenue
Total Contributions: $10,334,060
Program Service Revenue: $3,423,351
Total Primary Revenue: $13,757,411
Other Revenue $7,769
TOTAL REVENUE: $13,765,180
Expenses
Program Expenses: $7,163,384
Administrative Expenses: $1,444,570
Fundraising Expenses: $286,678
TOTAL FUNCTIONAL EXPENSES: $8,894,632
Payments to Affiliates $0 Excess (Or deficit) for the year: $4,870,548
Net Assets $6,584,811"
As if that isn't bad enough, they've refused to co-operate with the Better Business Bureau, and their transparency rating is also fairly low on Charity Navigator.
So, all this money and effort to stop a guy who has at the most 1,000 soldiers? The LRA is barely even operational anymore. There are probably gangs in your city bigger and more well armed. I feel like this movements efforts could be focused on someone that's actually relevant, like the aforementioned Yoweri Musevini. Also, I'm not sure how I feel about teaming up with the Ugandan government who very well could know where he is, however wouldn't tell us because as long as he is around they will receive aid and people will look the other way at the human rights violations they commit on a daily basis.
That said, I hope he is detained and tried in front of the ICC, which by the way has failed to convict anyone in the 28 trials they have conducted since the courts inception. I guess it's nice people care about human rights violators all of a sudden but there are far worse ones operating on the planet right now and no on knows their names. Now everybody knows a has been in the terrorist worlds name.
A warlord by the name of General Butt Naked killed more people in his tenure, he is a free man and no one gives two shits about him. Hell, because of Kony the Ugandan government killed more if it's own people by forcibly putting them in terrible refugee camps than the LRA killed themselves, and that's the government we are giving aid, weapons, and manpower to.
In case you couldn't tell this church goer appealing, car commercial esque piece of emotional porn with kids running around putting up signs, a hip soundtrack, and giving an adorable little boy leading questions is really bugging me.
deolio
03-08-2012, 09:28 AM
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/mexfoodisgood/gD992.png
i did not watch can i get cliff notes in 3 sentences or less?
aoshi1
03-08-2012, 11:11 AM
This kind of stuff brings out the best and worst in people. Yeah, there are shit-tons of other, worse atrocities going on all over the world. But from some of the logic dispayed here, since we can't and don't address every single issue, we should pay attention to NONE of them, and remain sitting on our hands? It's ironic that the effort and energy to take this movement down is way more than it was to put it together. Stop and think about that for a second.
sky53line
03-08-2012, 11:27 AM
Holy shit I have been waiting for some poor soul to post this so i can unleash on them like I have on facebook...
Joseph Kony has been at this since 1986. I do not understand why all of a sudden one MTV style video gets everyone all worked up. Posting this on facebook WILL NOT do anything than aggravate me and others like me by filling up my feed with useless shit. Its not that our government doesnt know about him because believe me they do. The people that need to know about shit like this most certainly do, its that he poses NO RISK to the United States. The United States has plenty of problems of their own with illegal immigration being at the top.
Now with the current president in office that probably wont get solved but getting involved in something that does not threaten us 8000 miles away is not necessary. Where were all these armchair activists during Darfur... which... for the record... is still going on... their is still a mass genocide happening and nothing has been done with this. Killing this one man wont do anything.
Being in the military, and to cover my ass this is strictly my own thought and no one elses, how would it look if we sent an army over to Uganda to fight an army composed mostly of these children? Its bad enough when we get bad information and blow up a few women and kids but think about it, if we send troops over to fight kids. We all know how those headlines are going to look. "US and Coalition forces brutally slaughtered hundreds innocent African children" and they will purposely omit the fact that these KIDS were shooting at US with their own weapons. And for anyone on here that says a child can not shoot a weapon but has never shot or handled a firearm themselves, please sit the fuck down and keep your mouth quiet. Thanks.
All these stupid liberals and hippies going on about how we need to bring our troops back from Iraq and Afghanistan and now they say they want to send troops over to Uganda to fight an Army? We cant afford this shit. Does anyone that is all for this propoganda have any clue how much it costs to keep a soldier overseas? Probably not so again, sit down. The United States has bigger fish to fry with Iran threatening us with possible nuclear capabilities. If I was going to donate to any fund it would be to a US Aid group funding needy AMERICAN children in the UNITED STATES.
Im going to cross train into video production and make a video that will target the hearts and emotions of hippies and liberals about the costs of modding a car. Then see if they will donate to my cause. I want a damn roll cage.
murda-c
03-08-2012, 11:37 AM
Holy shit I have been waiting for some poor soul to post this so i can unleash on them like I have on facebook...
Joseph Kony has been at this since 1986. I do not understand why all of a sudden one MTV style video gets everyone all worked up. Posting this on facebook WILL NOT do anything than aggravate me and others like me by filling up my feed with useless shit. Its not that our government doesnt know about him because believe me they do. The people that need to know about shit like this most certainly do, its that he poses NO RISK to the United States. The United States has plenty of problems of their own with illegal immigration being at the top. Now with the current president in office that probably wont get solved but getting involved in something that does not threaten us 8000 miles away is not necessary. Where were all these armchair activists during Darfur... which... for the record... is still going on... their is still a mass genocide happening and nothing has been done with this. Killing this one man wont do anything. Being in the military, and to cover my ass this is strictly my own thought and no one elses, how would it look if we sent an army over to Uganda to fight an army composed mostly of these children? Its bad enough when we get bad information and blow up a few women and kids but think about it, if we send troops over to fight kids. We all know how those headlines are going to look. "US and Coalition forces brutally slaughtered hundreds innocent African children" and they will purposely omit the fact that these KIDS were shooting at US with their own weapons. And for anyone on here that says a child can not shoot a weapon but has never shot or handled a firearm themselves, please sit the fuck down and keep your mouth quiet. Thanks. All these stupid liberals and hippies going on about how we need to bring our troops back from Iraq and Afghanistan and now they say they want to send troops over to Uganda to fight an Army? We cant afford this shit. Does anyone that is all for this propoganda have any clue how much it costs to keep a soldier overseas? Probably not so again, sit down. The United States has bigger fish to fry with Iran threatening us with possible nuclear capabilities. If I was going to donate to any fund it would be to a US Aid group funding needy AMERICAN children in the UNITED STATES. Im going to cross train into video production and make a video that will target the hearts and emotions of hippies and liberals about the costs of modding a car. Then see if they will donate to my cause. I want a damn roll cage.
Does Facebook have a rule against using paragraphs? Because we don't have one here.
sky53line
03-08-2012, 11:43 AM
Does Facebook have a rule against using paragraphs? Because we don't have one here.
Silly me Murda-c... where is my zilvia.net etiquette. I edited just for you. I attempted to 5 space tab over as well but it didn't do it when I saved it. Hope its more legible for you.
murda-c
03-08-2012, 11:47 AM
I'm gonna make the world a better place to read, one post at a time.
Even illegal immigrants will know how!
AsleepAltima
03-08-2012, 11:49 AM
not gonna make a difference. the money isnt going where you think it is.
lets take care of the visible kids within our own borders first. sorry, realism for me works better.
DS562
03-08-2012, 03:23 PM
I'm gonna make the world a better place to read, one post at a time.
Even illegal immigrants will know how!
Murda-C 2012. you got my vote.
ESmorz
03-08-2012, 03:29 PM
This kind of stuff brings out the best and worst in people. Yeah, there are shit-tons of other, worse atrocities going on all over the world. But from some of the logic dispayed here, since we can't and don't address every single issue, we should pay attention to NONE of them, and remain sitting on our hands? It's ironic that the effort and energy to take this movement down is way more than it was to put it together. Stop and think about that for a second.
I think the issue most people have with this Kony 2012 campaign is that it's focusing so much attention on someone who is so utterly irrelevant these days, especially when the ultimate goal is to bring him to justice by having him tried in front of a court that couldn't convict it's own asshole for shitting. There are much worse and much more active people this could all be focused on.
Also, you think some people typing some shit out on the internet in opposition to Invisible Children takes more effort than it does to organize, run, or even donate to it? I have to work to even be able to donate to IC, I have to spend a few minutes writing up a retort. God forbid people do a little digging and inform other people how their money is being spent. I love how facts and perspective are being treated as the enemy by those who see an easy target to make themselves feel better about the world and get all swept up in the rhetoric.
sr20sean
03-08-2012, 03:34 PM
I know everybody has a huge hard on for Joseph Kony right now because the fine people (with their questionable charity ethics) over at Invisible Children are rallying the troops with a new video, but I feel like there is something everyone needs to keep in mind. While he may be a bad dude and what he has done is nothing but deplorable, the numbers of the children the LRA abducted hover around ~65,000 in over 20 years.
Now I encourage you to look into Uganda's President who has abolished term limits, violently suppressed any opposition to him politically, and instigated the occupation of the DRC which resulted in around 6,000,000 deaths (almost 100 times worse in terms of body count than Kony has managed to rack up) albeit through more traditional means. All I'm saying is, maybe Kony isn't the worst guy in Uganda, who probably isn't even in Uganda anymore. Maybe I'm wrong but I doubt some perspective ever hurt.
Now here's some numbers:
"Compensation of Leaders | % of Compensation relative to amount of money made by IC | Title
$88,241 | 0.99% | Ben Keesey - CEO
$89,669 | 1.00% | Jason Russell - Co-Founder/Filmmaker
$84,377 | 0.94% | Laren Poole - Co-Founder/Filmmaker
Revenue
Total Contributions: $10,334,060
Program Service Revenue: $3,423,351
Total Primary Revenue: $13,757,411
Other Revenue $7,769
TOTAL REVENUE: $13,765,180
Expenses
Program Expenses: $7,163,384
Administrative Expenses: $1,444,570
Fundraising Expenses: $286,678
TOTAL FUNCTIONAL EXPENSES: $8,894,632
Payments to Affiliates $0 Excess (Or deficit) for the year: $4,870,548
Net Assets $6,584,811"
As if that isn't bad enough, they've refused to co-operate with the Better Business Bureau, and their transparency rating is also fairly low on Charity Navigator.
So, all this money and effort to stop a guy who has at the most 1,000 soldiers? The LRA is barely even operational anymore. There are probably gangs in your city bigger and more well armed. I feel like this movements efforts could be focused on someone that's actually relevant, like the aforementioned Yoweri Musevini. Also, I'm not sure how I feel about teaming up with the Ugandan government who very well could know where he is, however wouldn't tell us because as long as he is around they will receive aid and people will look the other way at the human rights violations they commit on a daily basis.
That said, I hope he is detained and tried in front of the ICC, which by the way has failed to convict anyone in the 28 trials they have conducted since the courts inception. I guess it's nice people care about human rights violators all of a sudden but there are far worse ones operating on the planet right now and no on knows their names. Now everybody knows a has been in the terrorist worlds name.
A warlord by the name of General Butt Naked killed more people in his tenure, he is a free man and no one gives two shits about him. Hell, because of Kony the Ugandan government killed more if it's own people by forcibly putting them in terrible refugee camps than the LRA killed themselves, and that's the government we are giving aid, weapons, and manpower to.
In case you couldn't tell this church goer appealing, car commercial esque piece of emotional porn with kids running around putting up signs, a hip soundtrack, and giving an adorable little boy leading questions is really bugging me.
I was going to post this from reddit lol
ESmorz
03-08-2012, 03:42 PM
I was going to post this from reddit lol
Yeah, the numbers have been floating around reddit and a few articles. Hence the quotes around them.
deolio
03-08-2012, 04:36 PM
Dear Jason Russell,
After being bombarded with your KONY 2012 crusade, I have no choice but to respond to your highly inaccurate, offensive, and harmful propaganda. I realized I had to respond in hopes of stopping you before you cause more violence and deaths to the Acholi people (Northern Ugandans), the very people you are claiming to protect.
Firstly, I would like to question your timing of this KONY 2012 crusade in Uganda when most of the violence from Joseph Kony and the LRA (The Lord’s Resistance Army) has subsided in Uganda in the past 5 years. The LRA has moved onto neighboring countries like the DRC and Sudan. Why are you not urging action in the countries he is currently in? Why are you worried about Kony all of a sudden when Ugandans are not at this present moment?
This grossly illogical timing and statements on your website such as “Click here to buy your KONY 2012 products” makes me believe that the timing has more to do with your commercial interests than humanitarian interests. With the upcoming U.S. presidential elections and the waning interest in Invisible Children, it seems to be perfect timing to start a crusade. I also must add at this point how much it personally disgusts me the way in which you have commercialized a conflict in which thousands of people have died.
Secondly, I would like to address the highly inaccurate content of your video. Your video did not leave the viewer any more knowledgeable about the conflict in Uganda, but only emotionally assaulted. I could not help but notice how conveniently one-sided the “explanation” in your video was. There was absolutely no mention of the role of the Ugandan government and military in the conflict. Let alone the role of the U.S. government and military. The only information given is “KONY MUST BE STOPPED.”
I would like to inform you that stopping Kony would not end the conflict. (It is correctly pronounced “Kohn” by the way). This conflict is deeply embedded in Uganda’s history that neither starts nor ends with Kony. Therefore, your solution to the problem is flawed. There is no way to know the solution, without full knowledge of the problem itself. We must act on knowledge, not emotions.
Joseph Kony formed the LRA in retaliation to the brutality of President Museveni (from the south) committing mass atrocities on the Acholi people (from the north) when President Museveni came to power in 1986. This follows a long history of Ugandan politics that can be traced back to pre-colonial times. The conflict must be contextualized within this history. (If you want to have this proper knowledge, I suggest you start by working with scholars, not celebrities). President Museveni is still in power and in his reign of 26 years he has arguably killed as many, if not more Acholi people, than Joseph Kony. Why is President Museveni not demonized, let alone mentioned? I would like to give you more credit than just ignorance. I have three guesses. One is that Invisible Children has close ties with the Ugandan government and military, which it has been accused of many times. Second, is that you are willing to fight Kony, but not the U.S. Government, which openly supports President Museveni. Third, is that Invisible Children feels the need to reduce the conflict to better commercialize it.
This brings me to my third issue, the highly offensive nature of your video. Firstly, it is offensive to your viewer. The scene with your “explanation” of the conflict to your toddler son suggests that the viewers have the mental capacity of a toddler and can only handle information given in such a reductionist manner. I would like to think American teenagers and young adults (which is clearly your target audience) are smarter than your toddler son. I would hope that we are able to realize that it is not a “Star Wars” game with aliens and robots in some far off galaxy as your son suggests, but a real world conflict with real world people in Uganda. This is a real life conflict with real life consequences.
Secondly, and more importantly, it is offensive to Ugandans. The very name “Invisible Children” is offensive. You claim you make the invisible, visible. The statements, “We have seen these kids.” and “No one knew about these kids.” are part of your slogan. You seem to be strongly hinting that you somehow have validated and found these kids and their struggles.
Whether you see them or not, they were always there. Your having seen the kids does not validate their existence in any shape or form or bring it any more significance. You say “no one” knew about the kids. What about the kids themselves? What about the families of the kids who were killed and abducted? Are they “no one?” Are they not human?
These children are not invisible, you are making them invisible by silencing, dehumanizing, marketing, and invalidating them.
Last year I went to Gulu, Uganda, where Invisible Children is based, and interviewed over 50 locals. Every single person questioned Invisible Children’s legitimacy and intention. Every single person. If anything, it seemed the people saw Invisible Children as a bigger threat than Joseph Kony at the time. Why is it the very people you are trying to “help” feel more offense than relief with your aid?
“They come here to make money and use us.”
“It makes us feel terrible to be presented as being so stupid and helpless.”
These are direct quotes. This was the sentiment of the majority of the people that I interviewed in varying degrees. I definitely didn’t see or hear these voices or opinions in your video. If you are to be “saving” the Acholi people, the very least you can be doing is holding yourself accountable to them and actually listening to what they have to say.
This offensive, inaccurate misconstruction of Ugandans and its conflict makes me wonder what and whom this is really about. It seems that you feel very good about yourself being a savior, a Luke Skywalker of sorts, and same with the girl in your video who passionately states, “This is what defines us”. Therefore, I can’t help but wonder if Invisible Children is more about defining the American do-gooders (and making them feel good), rather than the Ugandans; profiteering the American military and corporations (which Invisible Children is officially and legally) than the conflict.
Lastly, I would like to address the harmful nature of your propaganda. I believe your actions will actually bring back the fighting in Northern Uganda. You are not asking for peace, but violence. The fighting has stopped in the past 5 years and the Acholi are finally enjoying some peace. You will be inviting the LRA and the fighting back into Uganda and disturbing this peace. The last time Invisible Children got politically involved and began lobbying it actually caused more violence and deaths. I beg you not to do it again.
If you open your eyes and see the actions of the Ugandan government and the U.S. government, you will see why. Why is it that suddenly in October of 2011 when there has been relative peace in Uganda for 4 years, President Obama decided to send troops into Uganda? Why is it that the U.S. military is so involved with AFRICOM, which has been pervading African countries, including Uganda? Why is it that U.S. has been traced to creating the very weapons that has been used in the violence? The U.S. is entering Uganda and other countries in Africa not to stop violence, but to create a new battlefield.
In your video you urge that the first course of action is that the Ugandan military needs American military and weapons. You are giving weapons to the very people who were killing the Acholi people in the first place. You are helping to open the grounds for America to make Uganda into a battlefield in which it can profit and gain power. Please recognize this is all part of a bigger military movement, not a humanitarian movement. This will cause deaths, not save lives. This will be doing more harm, than good.
You end your video with saying, “You will stop at nothing”. If nothing else, will you not stop for the lives of the Acholi people? Haven’t enough Acholi people suffered in the violence between the LRA and the Ugandan government? Our alliance should not be with the U.S. government or the Ugandan military or the LRA, but the Acholi people. There is a Ugandan saying that goes, “The grass will always suffer when two elephants fight.” Isn’t it time we let the grass grow?
Thank you.
Sincerely,
Amber Ha
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S14kouki_10
03-08-2012, 05:42 PM
Well check this video out people..
Video: Somebody's Lying: Proof That The Most Hated Man In The World Right Now "Joseph KONY" Is Not A Bad Guy!? (Interview With Him & His Troops) (http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhEk16p80re9j8X31h)
cgtdream
03-08-2012, 05:59 PM
Well this Video has got alot of replies. I figured someone should post up an Ugandans take on these types of videos...Also i never bothered to watch KONY...seems like a re-hash of a re-hash....Give awareness and money to some random issue in africa etc. etc. etc....
Btw i have no idea how to embed..
Video: So Footage From Stop Joseph Kony Is 5-6 Years Ago!? Ugandan Blogger Responds To Kony 2012! "If You Are Showing Me As Voiceless And Helpless, You Have No Space To Tell My Story" (http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhpkYA0wFQbHvPf863)
Corbic
03-08-2012, 07:37 PM
Where is the damn like button when you need one. World doesn't want to help if it actually requires them to do something.
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Fixed that for you. Believe it or not, the US donates more money per capita and does more work then anyone else in the world for humanitarian causes and charities.
muffler
03-08-2012, 07:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DO73Ese25Y
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DO73Ese25Y)
ill just leave this here..
ESmorz
03-08-2012, 08:05 PM
Well check this video out people..
Video: Somebody's Lying: Proof That The Most Hated Man In The World Right Now "Joseph KONY" Is Not A Bad Guy!? (Interview With Him & His Troops) (http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhEk16p80re9j8X31h)
He's a bad dude. Just not the worst. You think he's going to gloat about killing kids and mutilating people on camera?
These inflammatory types of claims are detrimental to the awareness campaign those opposing Invisible Children's tactics and motivations are now conducting.
TougeLove
03-08-2012, 08:20 PM
made this :D
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3535/dosequismemekony2012.jpg
i have never given money but i did participate in their walking protest in 2006. they really havent done too much in san diego lately.
Grocery Cart
03-08-2012, 09:51 PM
I love my friends.
http://i41.tinypic.com/14vo93p.jpg
Johannes
03-08-2012, 09:55 PM
oops.. re-post. my bad
TougeLove
03-09-2012, 12:17 AM
ahahah that is awesome!!!
saw this, hate it, but had to repost it.
http://i42.tinypic.com/33k3cpj.jpg
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/263/839/d56.png
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/419058_407502152598786_323047771044225_1853053_363 722497_n.jpg
M11's
03-09-2012, 12:57 AM
Yes this important to end but why are so many people jumping on it bandwagon instead a much larger, more focused and organized movement such as the OCCUPY MOVEMENT. There are matters effecting us all right now that can be halted by more support on our own issues rather than what is happening abroad. That will come when things are fixed here first.
hOngsterr
03-09-2012, 01:17 AM
QdkI-PoVo64
7DO73Ese25Y
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/429742_3379427854063_1520415539_3065108_46685210_n .jpg (https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/429742_3379427854063_1520415539_3065108_46685210_n .jpg)
DS562
03-09-2012, 01:20 AM
Dr.House goes gangsta.
treken2t87
03-09-2012, 12:42 PM
http://distilleryimage5.instagram.com/97995bb8699b11e1abb01231381b65e3_7.jpg
RodrigueGD
03-09-2012, 12:51 PM
http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc456/RodriguezGD/6a27a9e4.jpg
gerson408
03-09-2012, 03:19 PM
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j116/xxxgerson699/427033_347483148626881_263993970309133_935981_3940 32422_n.jpg
Corbic
03-09-2012, 05:54 PM
NFHOzarT78Q
HyperTek
03-09-2012, 06:13 PM
this is a joke imo, this group knows they can milk money on this, and since this involves something out of this country, they know alot of people won't be able to pursue the effectiveness the effectiveness of their group (I mean I'm not going to go to Uganda myself to find him so I'd just have to take their word on it on how they are trying to get him) .
Unless they invite people and credible news sources and show them what they are doing.
ditchs14
03-09-2012, 07:54 PM
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a local radio guy made this video. i started posting this on fb.
LEG1T
03-10-2012, 06:50 PM
The blasted Action Kit is sold out...
Rats, I want 1.
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/16031491.jpg
HyperTek
03-16-2012, 05:46 PM
lmao
‘Kony 2012′ filmmaker arrested in San Diego | The Envoy - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/envoy/kony-2012-filmmaker-arrested-san-diego-205649394.html)
Russell, 33, "was taken into custody after he was found masturbating in public, vandalizing cars and possibly under the influence of something,"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/mar/16/kony-2012-campaigner-detained
Jason Russell, 33, was picked up by police in San Diego at around 11.30am on Thursday after receiving numerous calls from the public about a man vandalising cars, being apparently under the influence of a substance and making sexual gestures while wearing only his underwear
Now this dude is going to make a film about how he gets arrested for self pleasuring himself and yet no one goes after Kony lol
DS562
03-16-2012, 05:58 PM
he was havin a yank and a drink to celebrate manipulating many, many people.
HyperTek
03-16-2012, 09:05 PM
TMZ got a video of him in the act hahaha *NWS Link*
LBCtoofortee
04-23-2012, 04:44 PM
#Bony2012
Lets allll pay for this guy to go get drunk and jack off in public
Corbic
04-24-2012, 05:09 AM
So is Kony running as an Independent this fall?
What's his stance on Banking reform?
Vote Kony 2012!!!
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