which battery to get ?

[RedSled]

i've done a battery relocation and relocated the battery to the trunk
now i need a battery that will start my car without any hesitation and not die on me after a few months
i was looking for a battery that'll be light and be able to start my car comfortably
my first choice is the braille B2015 425cca and then there is the odyssey pc925 380cca
what you guys think ?

[pacotaco345]

i've done a battery relocation and relocated the battery to the trunk
now i need a battery that will start my car without any hesitation and not die on me after a few months
i was looking for a battery that'll be light and be able to start my car comfortably
my first choice is the braille B2015 425cca and then there is the odyssey pc925 380cca
what you guys think ?

a walmart battery... no i'm not being sarcastic, if a new battery drains or doesn't start your car your problem is the wiring not the battery.

[Functiontheory]

i think he wants a dry cell battery since he put his battery in the trunk. and the two he listed were dry cell ones. i know he can run a vented battery box. but its easier to just use a dry cell.

im in the same boat as well. im running an odyssey pc680, but i was told this battery does not have enough cca (220) to start my rb25.

i have been doing some reaearch on this latley. optima yellow or red tops seem to be what most people are using. but im not sure if they are dry cell. i know they are a gel cell but im not sure if you need a battery box or not for them. plus those cost around the same price as the braile and the odyssey.

my friend has the braile b2015 in his s13 with sr20. it seems to work fine. it starts everytime.

what motor you have makes a difference too.

[RedSled]

i have an sr20det ,did your friend relocate his battery as well ?
the optima's are way too heavy

[ixfxi]

haha you guys are toolboxes

you need cranking power to start a car. cranking power comes from a battery, and good batteries are not light. you need a battery with some juice. not as heavy as OEM, but not as light as these bullshit lawnmower batteries you all suggest.

pc1200 is what i picked up for my car. i also ran a nice d34m. if you skimp, dont be surprised when your car doesnt start and you're sitting there with your dick in your hand

[ixfxi]

im in the same boat as well. im running an odyssey pc680, but i was told this battery does not have enough cca (220) to start my rb25.

i have been doing some reaearch on this latley. optima yellow or red tops seem to be what most people are using. but im not sure if they are dry cell. i know they are a gel cell but im not sure if you need a battery box or not for them. plus those cost around the same price as the braile and the odyssey.

my friend has the braile b2015 in his s13 with sr20. it seems to work fine. it starts everytime.

what motor you have makes a difference too.

optima batteries are not gel cell, they are AGM. no battery box needed as they do not leak liquid.

b2015 looks like a joke. with 20ah, i think i have a UPS for my computer that has greater reserve capacity. and yes, the bigger the motor the more energy needed to spin/start it.

[daftphunk]

Westco Mini Battery 12V (http://www.frsport.com/Westco-Mini-Battery-12V_p_1064.html)

I bought that one like 2 years ago. Only reason it went out on me was cause my alternator went out and it overcharged it. But I never had any problems with it.

[huffandpuff00]

iv had the pc680 for 2 years now and it cranks fine. I think 15lbs

[RedSled]

so what you're saying is that all the people using the light weigth batteris are destined to fail yet there are people with them 3yrs plus ,just because you bouhgt a bigger battery you believe you've got the best ,have you ever tried a braille battery
all you really need is a battery with the right amount of current to start no need for a oversized battery unless you've got lots of audio equipment
and in case you didn't notice the dinosaur ages are long gone technology has stepped up ,bigger and better packages comes in smaller sizes

[jclarkness]

I went to my local interstate battery and they set me up with an awesome battery for like $130.00.

[ixfxi]

so what you're saying is that all the people using the light weigth batteris are destined to fail yet there are people with them 3yrs plus ,just because you bouhgt a bigger battery you believe you've got the best ,have you ever tried a braille battery
all you really need is a battery with the right amount of current to start no need for a oversized battery unless you've got lots of audio equipment
and in case you didn't notice the dinosaur ages are long gone technology has stepped up ,bigger and better packages comes in smaller sizes


you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about

braille doesnt even make their own batteries, you got raped.







Stealth 316 - Dyna-Batt Battery (http://www.stealth316.com/2-dynabatt.htm)

[310R]

Interstate dcm0035 deep cycle agm.I have one in my car and it sits months at a time in the northwest because of weather.Never had a problem and it will run a small stereo also.

[KiLLeR2001]

Small batteries blow. When its even questionably cold out my Odyssey will show signs of fail. I'll be going optima red top converted to the back in a couple months for sure.

[Kaomon]

how bout using a honda d51 battery? It's not big as the oem and should have enough CCA

[94_240sx]

I have PC680 and it's been working fine. I added this switch, so when I don't drive or when I work on my car, I simply turn the knob and disconnect the battery to prevent draining. Mine is still in the front and I can tell car is light when I make turns.

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[FRpilot]

I had a westco oem replacement miata battery. it died after a few months and i never went back to a "small" battery again.

Is it me or did battery prices sky rocket in the past few years? I recently bought a new battery a few months ago at o'reilys for my daily. i remember getting an oem replacement kirkland/costco battery 6 years ago for about $70 and most of the batteries at O'Reily, Autozone, and Sears I checked started at like $90-$100. I ended up paying about $130 out the door for one of the higher end O'reily batteries. Optimas Red and Yellows were like $220+

[codyace]

haha you guys are toolboxes

you need cranking power to start a car. cranking power comes from a battery, and good batteries are not light. you need a battery with some juice. not as heavy as OEM, but not as light as these bullshit lawnmower batteries you all suggest.

To be fair though Mike, I've run the ETX-14 battery in my car, and many run the -15/-16 variants that I track with, and I can say that they never have issues cranking the cars over. Sure if they sit for 3-4 weeks at a clip they need a boost, but for a small usage car they work great. A 4 cyl with 8.5:1 compression isn't much of a hard engine to start.

WITH that said though, I think most that have issues with them often have drains on the system.

[codyace]

you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about

braille doesnt even make their own batteries, you got raped.

Stealth 316 - Dyna-Batt Battery (http://www.stealth316.com/2-dynabatt.htm)

To further this comment (much like I replied in my PM to RedSled about this), DEKA (Made out here in PA) makes the Braille stuff, as well as most of the other small 'racing/atv/tractor' ones for most other companies. We used to haul out of there, and you'd have 10-15 different 'brands' in the same load out of the factory. Funny at best.

I personally run their blemished batteries in my car. Half the cost, year warranty...never have any issue with them.

[onehundredoctane]

I've had good success with Odyssey's PC680's, you can find em around $100 all day

[tinys s14]

I got a 7 series battery

[Royal13]

After considering a Braille, I ended up going with an Odyssey PC680 (15lbs). From all the info I gathered, Braille has had issues in some cases. I found there to be more people with positive things to say about the PC680.

[codyace]

After considering a Braille, I ended up going with an Odyssey PC680 (15lbs). From all the info I gathered, Braille has had issues in some cases. I found there to be more people with positive things to say about the PC680.

Again, most issues are to idiotic owners.

[ixfxi]

Sure if they sit for 3-4 weeks at a clip they need a boost, but for a small usage car they work great. A 4 cyl with 8.5:1 compression isn't much of a hard engine to start.

WITH that said though, I think most that have issues with them often have drains on the system.


a battery is only as good as its charge. if it doesnt hold charge and/or cant recover, then its not worth running.

there are guys here that try to save 20lbs off of their car yet get disappointed when their car doesnt start, thats senseless. if you hit the track, then sure... how hard is it to swap a normal battery and temporarily install your miniature toy battery. but in all honesty, 20lbs isnt going to make or break the race.

i once heard someone say that its better to focus on your skills than it is to spend 30,000.00 bucks on a high-end motor build. that you get more performance from bettering yourself as a driver than some super fancy motor.


Small batteries blow. When its even questionably cold out my Odyssey will show signs of fail. I'll be going optima red top converted to the back in a couple months for sure.

my friend works as a battery distributor selling optima and odyssey, and numerous other brands. he told me that with optima, dont pay attention to the cover, pay attention to the casing:
dark grey = starting battery
light grey = deep cycle

main difference is that the deep cycle batteries are the better batteries as they can recover from deep discharge. nothing wrong with a starting battery, but dont expect them to recover too many times after being discharged.

this means, if you're a fucktard whos draining their battery constantly, dont expect (insert brand here) to endure that type of abuse.

hence the reason you need a decent size battery to begin with.

oh well, ignorance is bliss

[delado]

My yellow top optima is flippin' cool.

[Pinggg]

Been using the ODYSSEY Pc680 for about a year now with no problems. Also in the picture is my custom billet aluminum battery tray/tie down i had made for it.
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm72/pingisasian/Nissan%20240sx/1a951b12.jpg

[Dmonkey]

I tried Braille, didn't really like it. Waste of money. Spent 30 buck on battery at the local store. Works fine. If your worried about weight savings, hit a treadmill.

[EnemyS15]

Flux capacitor ftw

[Andres_G]

Duralast Gold. 750CCA in the trunk FTW.

[codyace]

a battery is only as good as its charge. if it doesnt hold charge and/or cant recover, then its not worth running.

there are guys here that try to save 20lbs off of their car yet get disappointed when their car doesnt start, thats senseless. if you hit the track, then sure... how hard is it to swap a normal battery and temporarily install your miniature toy battery. but in all honesty, 20lbs isnt going to make or break the race.

And that's the other thing, there aren't really any logical reasons I even suggest the little battery, other than it's a nice way to avoid trunk mounting a battery, and retaining all of the 'stock' engine bay wiring and stuff (and here I am with hand built everything else on the car). At the point in time I wasn't ever envisioning doing track days every month/twice a month. I figured 'hey this fits with the FMIC pipework, and saves the time of going trunk mount'. True story.

However I also am odd about no drains on the system. I'm also always one to put a car on a tender when it sits for a while. It's in my habit of things I guess.

But this same argument can be applied to almost everything we do with these cars. Why bother with your fancy lights, when the regular parts store stuff works? I guess it's along the same premise. Why put home built coilovers on your car when you gotta tear them down and inspect them, the stock stuf fis fine etc etc. (and you know I'm just busting your balls here, but for the idiots who are reading this and thinking we're going to erupt in a forum fucktard flame war)?





i once heard someone say that its better to focus on your skills than it is to spend 30,000.00 bucks on a high-end motor build. that you get more performance from bettering yourself as a driver than some super fancy motor.

I once heard someone say that if you pound a porker that it's ok so long as you don't tell anyone too. ;)


main difference is that the deep cycle batteries are the better batteries as they can recover from deep discharge. nothing wrong with a starting battery, but dont expect them to recover too many times after being discharged.

Shhhh. We have truck guys come in all the time and want the cheapest battery. "Deep cycle is for stuff that sits for a while"....yea, and sitting for hours on end at night with the key on isn't draining them. Hey, not my money, you want cheap we'll throw it on...our trucks run the good stuff.

[drftx]

Duralast Gold. 750CCA in the trunk FTW.

yes yes i got the same shit with a 3 year free replacement for 100 bucks hell yeah

[2stepGoesPowPow]

I don't really have any knowledge on batteries but this is what was in my car when i bought it/before i took it out to put my car into hibernation, the batteries been sitting for like 3 months now i guess its basically garbage now and I'm gonna need a new one? i liked the small lighter batteries, I'm probably gonna get another just don't know which one. i just looked it up n it goes for $65.. lol here are the features:Amp Hours: 20
Cranking Amps: 850
Weight: 14 lbs.
Dimensions: 3"D x 7-1/2"W x 6-1/2"H
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h321/RPS13-NY/d0910772.jpg

[nomoremk2]

Who cares how it performs when the logo is that awesome.

[2stepGoesPowPow]

lmfao, im not sure about the performance it was decent before i relocated it then after it sucked since i didn't ground it good at all by grounding it to the fuel pump lol........

[ixfxi]

I don't really have any knowledge on batteries but


http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h321/RPS13-NY/d0910772.jpg


no shit, you bought a fucking battery with a DEAD NINJA on it! wtf, looks like some kid printed that on his inkjet and pasted it onto the battery. reminds me of the birthday cards i make for my parents

[2stepGoesPowPow]

no shit, you bought a fucking battery with a DEAD NINJA on it! wtf, looks like some kid printed that on his inkjet and pasted it onto the battery. reminds me of the birthday cards i make for my parents

You obviously forgot how to read and didn't see that i said IT CAME WITH THE CAR, dumbass. and who the fuck cares what it looks like.

[MrChow]

or if you wanna light weight battery.
ShoraiUsa - Batteries (http://www.shoraipower.com/c-1-batteries.aspx)

There a lot of different batteries out there. I've used many different batteries.
Optima Yellow and Red top (red top is not a deep cycle battery) - There stuff is old a lot of better battery out there now.
Odyssey PC925 battery - Same ^^
Kinetic/Shuriken - Good audio batteries. If you get there non audio ones those are amazing!

Now I'm on Stingers battery. This one is pretty bad ass battery.

xs power has some of the best ones.

XS Power D3100 v/s Competitor Group 31 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WprVk5m_nko&list=UUDkybLM6sUlWyIxx-kD2kXQ&index=5&feature=plcp)

[Matej]

Bought one of those Shuriken batteries as well. The graphics on the newer ones are less obnoxious, so no skeleton ninja for me, unfortunately.
It has worked great so far. However, my car is very minimalist, especially in the electrical department, so my power consumption needs are microcosmic.

[2stepGoesPowPow]

or if you wanna light weight battery.
ShoraiUsa - Batteries (http://www.shoraipower.com/c-1-batteries.aspx)

There a lot of different batteries out there. I've used many different batteries.
Optima Yellow and Red top (red top is not a deep cycle battery) - There stuff is old a lot of better battery out there now.
Odyssey PC925 battery - Same ^^
Kinetic/Shuriken - Good audio batteries. If you get there non audio ones those are amazing!

Now I'm on Stingers battery. This one is pretty bad ass battery.

xs power has some of the best ones.

XS Power D3100 v/s Competitor Group 31 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WprVk5m_nko&list=UUDkybLM6sUlWyIxx-kD2kXQ&index=5&feature=plcp)

What is an "audio" battery, and i think i might get another shuriken, after i fix the ground on the battery and get a bunch of good ground points + the circuit sports DIS i think my car will run amazing :D

[Matej]

The Shuriken was too good of a deal to not try it out. I got mine with the optional box and a bunch of extra terminals for every use imaginable, all together for under 100$ shipped from some electronics store.
The box is actually the main reason why I ended up going with the Shuriken. Out of all the boxes available for the various batteries, it was best suited for how I wanted to mount it.

[aoshi1]

I've ran an Optima Yellowtop on all my cars, never had any issues, ever.

[MrChow]

What is an "audio" battery, and i think i might get another shuriken, after i fix the ground on the battery and get a bunch of good ground points + the circuit sports DIS i think my car will run amazing :D
Its for people that are pulling a lot of AMP/Watts for system. There good batteries if your running some really powerful fans.

Batteries - XS Power Batteries - SummitRacing.com (http://www.summitracing.com/search/Brand/XS-Power-Batteries/Part-Type/Batteries/?Ns=Price%7cAsc)
Any of those batteries won't fail you. Go on ebay you should be able to find them at better prices.

You only need 2 good grounds. 4ga or bigger I use 0/1 ga
One for - Battery to Chassis and another from the Motor to Chassis. Look up the Big 3.