January 17th Thunderhill Recap

[thx247]

What did you guys think of the event?

Time on the track? Was it like going to an SCCA autocross or was it a drift day with open track time?

How it was run? Did the thunderhill staff keep things running smoothly or was it a big cluster fsck out there? Don't forget time spent OFF the track, tech, registration etc etc

Safety? Did you see any unsafe things going on there? Spectators too close to your J turn? Unsafe passing etc etc?

What did you like about the event most?

What did you least like about the event?

[FRpilot]

What did you guys think of the event?

The event was ok. not worth 160 imo. too many pplz and a lot of waiting for drifting. maybe if you signed up for the autox it be worth it because that was just like spirited driving on a track that goes up hills and curves w/ other cars.


Time on the track? Was it like going to an SCCA autocross or was it a drift day with open track time?

it was more organzied and split into groups switching between different areas. it could have been better organized because some of the ppl workin there didn't really know what to do.


How it was run? Did the thunderhill staff keep things running smoothly or was it a big cluster fsck out there? Don't forget time spent OFF the track, tech, registration etc etc


it was kept runing pretty smooth. events started a little late because registration and everything took a little longer than expected. it was a pretty big cluster out there. i thought there were goin to be 80 cars max but it seemed like more than that at the drivers meet.

Safety? Did you see any unsafe things going on there? Spectators too close to your J turn? Unsafe passing etc etc?

it was a safe event. the ppl running thunderhill knew what they were doing. im talkin about the ppl who work at thunderhill and gave the speeches about the flags.

What did you like about the event most?
the cars were plenty. too many 240s. i liked the red fd. other than the huge groups of 240s, there were small groups of maybe 5-10 STis, evos, rx7 fd and fcs, 1 mrspyder, 1 nsx, and an old guy driving a yellow porshe gt3.

What did you least like about the event?
the showoffs. the black wrx with rally lights who drove in the chevron and reved all the way out and didn't even get gas. i heard there was an evo doin stupid stuff and some others.

man. this was my first track event. drifting is harder than i thought. made me feel like i want to give up on spending all this money on my car. the car wouldn't go where i wanted to go. it was soo frustrating. seeing all these advance groups drifting pretty well. it felt like all i was doing was driving reckless out on the skidpad and jturn w/ super vision. it was fun driving out there, but it did get boring cuz the car didn't go wherei wanted to go after so many tries. i guess with more practice ill get better but i just wanted to give up drifting because it was too hard.

[balmo]

Time on the track?
its format is almost like dd but insted of dodging cones, we got a track :drool:

How it was run?
it was fine. the registration line was kinna long. overall it was ok

Safety? Did you see any unsafe things going on there? Spectators too close to your J turn? Unsafe passing etc etc?
the j-turn was pretty tight in space + people watching

What did you like about the event most?
that i can work with the skipad with open diff. and of course make new friends.

What did you least like about the event?
showoff's

[speeddreamz]

I didn't think the event was all that safe considering the way they organized the lines after J-Turns, the lines were too close to people doing the j turns. I think it was pretty unorganized and I thought we were going to get more instruction, but the instructors in my opinion weren't even that good. They hardly instructed me.


One other correction, it wasn't an wrx that kept reving if im not mistaken. It was an EVO ? no ? but that guy was a fucking idiot and loooked stupid revving his motor at everyone.

[that180guy]

yea im with speed dreamz. ther was a whole lot of dumb ppl standing too close 2 the j-turns and the lines were really......unstraight?...

and o yea, the black evo guy....im under the impression that it was just a turbo fwd lancer?

all n alll.....still a great event :) n hopefully ill be driving the next one

[balmo]

didnt the evo fry his clucth? i saw the car being hauled out by a tow truck

[NZO]

Time on the track?
I was happy with the time on track. Im not good enough to really do much on the roadcourse so I was able to just practice on the jturns and skidpad. The only time I got out of my car was for lunch, so yea there was plenty of driving time.

How it was run?
Everything went smoothly for me.

Safety?
The lines for the jturns and skidpads could have been allocated more room and it would have been easy because there was a lot of free room in the paddoc area. There were also quite a few spectators standing right next to the cones on the jturns, Im unsure what exactly they were thinking...

What did you like about the event most?
Lots of time to do whatever you want and really be able to relax and concentrate on learning and improving your skills.

What did you least like about the event?
The black lancer pretending to be an evo :fruit: You have a turbo, thats nice so does everyone else. :jerkit:
I didnt seem to see many people showing off so I guess I cant comment on that.

Overall the event was awesome. I got a lot of time to fix some stuff I was doing wrong and to really relax while I was out there.
Big thanks to Jay for helping me out on the first few runs and putting up with what was probably some scary driving on my part :p
Hopefully there will be more similar events.

[Raziel]

I found the event smooth and a great learning experience. The thing i didnt like was some show offs. Everyone was cool to talk to and ask for help or questions. The black lancer was a big showoff it was just a regular FWD lancer + turbo. If you looked at his rear breaks they were drum. I also saw a lot of ppl improve includeing you NZO good job out there. Your starting to get it. I still need more time out there my car had some tech problems during the middle of the day.

[cagefreak]

I enjoyed the event alot. Everyone was cool to everyone else and no drama. I like the fact that the whole track was offered to everyone at the end of the day.

[dball33]

This was my first time at an event and it was a great learning experience. My instructor, Victor (I think that was his name, hehad a black rx-7), was really nice. He took me for a few runs in his car and then in my car and after each run he would explain everything in detail and answer all my questions. I totally agree with you FRpilot. In the first session, I was getting hecka pissed and frustrated. I couldn't do anything right at all. I couldn't break the rear loose at all but it was in the second half after Victor took me for a few runs, things became a bit easier. I was happy to be able to break the rear loose even though I spun out a few times into the dirt. Hecka scary!!!! The car just kept on spinning in the dirt and then took a while to start back up. Also it kind of sucked how I didn't really know anyone (really sucked how I missed meeting up with NZO) and the people there seemed like they came in as groups of friends so that made it a bit more difficult. But all in all, a great track day for me. Hopefully they'll have another one soon.

[UCC0279]

Well, Thank you Tod and all staffs from NCDA. it was a great events.

I am hoping we have this type of event in Nor Cal every month.
For sure I will be there as driving to LA for drifting event isn't fun at all.

As for those beginners, Instructors are your best friend.
Those advanced drivers aint good when they just started years ago.
We need more people supporting this type of event so people don't have to drive all the way to So Cal or risk themselves on street racing and drifting.

Anyways, other than not enough seat time on track I am happy.
Great layout for both beginner and advanced drivers.
As for safety issue, it was OK as there was not much room for those constatly having a hard time dealing with PUSH-UNDER in J turn session especially novice drivers.

later
AD-609.

[blitzkrgCT9A]

yea im with speed dreamz. ther was a whole lot of dumb ppl standing too close 2 the j-turns and the lines were really......unstraight?...

and o yea, the black evo guy....im under the impression that it was just a turbo fwd lancer?

all n alll.....still a great event :) n hopefully ill be driving the next one


After talking to a staff member at NCDA, it was not an EVO.. it was a turbocharged Lancer OZ edition.

[NZO]

Raziel: thanks man, you and the other FDs were tearing it up on the roadcourse :cool:

Who was the guy with the s13 hatch with kouki s14 front?
Also anyone know the guy with the red FC? He was doing pretty well too.

[SilviaNinja240]

I noticed his SRO sticker on the side of his window, although after going to SRO's website I found out that he's the web admin of calslam.com
o well.. could be worse, could've been a mirage with a evo converstion bodykit (if you've seen them you know what i'm talking about)

[Sliding_S14]

I liked the event made me wish i had the funds to get out there, but hopefully next time. i got there late afternoon when the black turbo'd lancer was sitting there revving at everyone then parks. and he was either hitting his alarm off and on or had it on right next to the skid pad. that s13 fastback with the kouki front end was a new conversion to me, fenders looked a good bit to long then what they should have been but all in all it was clean. wish i could have been there in the morning and stayed longer then i did. Would love if this became a once a month thing.

[Bolo]

The event was good overall, but I just wish I had more track time to drift. Didn't really care too much for the skid pad and j-turns but I was lovin the drift track layout. Did anyone hit the first turn on the drift track in 3rd gear? I was hoping to try it out but seemed like there was not enough room to get up to speed. The esses were nice too, very fast going through there.

I thought I would get one last chance to go on the drift track for the last session but instead they opened up the whole track to grip driving. That kinda bummed me out, but I still had fun running the whole track. It was nice that they let us alternate between drift and grip. Whenever my group was on the skid pad or j-turns, I would go out for some grip driving.

The organization was ok, I understand it was their first time running an event. But the registration line was ridiculous, they should've had at least one other table open. I missed most of the drivers meeting even though I got there right at 7am. But overall a very fun day. Seemed like a good turn out so hopefully we'll have more events up here.

[thaiger77]

Hey,
This is my first drift/track event, which I thought it was cool. Too bad I didn't have the fund or the skill to enter yet. I went with my crew (PX racing) from Travis AFB. Didn't really get to talk or meet other people since the event is none stop. I learn quite a bit by taking rides with my buddy when they drifted. I think the skidpad was kinda boring to watch after a while but other than that, the event is awesome. Oh yeah, what's up NZO (christian)? Havn't seen you since the Davis meet. Sorry I didn't get to say hi. U were busy drifting?

[thaiger77]

Oh, one more thing, the stupid black Evo wanna be is hella wack. He tried to drift but just ended up making a fool of himself. I hope someone would tell him that he sucks and he should take his fake ass lancer and go home. ;-) Well, that is kinda mean but that's the truth.

[ZerO_240SX]

it was my first time i ever been to a track for drifting... i had a good time even though i wasn't able to drive (stupid car that's in the middle of a swap)... i was riding with my friend in his grey silvia (S13 coupe with front end conversion) and he was tearin it up on the J-turn and the drift track... but we were kinda hoping for more time on the track... other than that it was great... safety wise, i thought that people walking around the J-turn was a little to close and there was always alotta confusion with the line... overall the event was great fun for me and a good learning experience...

P.S. As for the Black Lancer, he blew his clutch on his ride, i was talking to him for a bit after he blew it... it was a cool ride (definetly different) and he was able to get the rear to break loose a bit , just not all the time... people questioned what he was doing in drift, but he wants to do his thing... can't stop that... just my .02 cents

[Sliding_S14]

friends s13 with the 97-98kouki conversion? or the s13silvia conversion with the primared/black fenders?

[ZerO_240SX]

it was a greyish/greenish 1991 s13 coupe that had the front conversion... oh yeah and we didn't have a number, we just joined the AD group

[UberCaff]

The dude with the lancer is retarded. I have met him personally on many occasions and thats I have to say about the guy. The car and his driving style fit him well.

[jaae86]

Overall, for me I was kinda dissapointed for the lack of track time. On every session I've been, I was only able to drift twice except about 4 times during the one hour session. There were a lot of unsafe situations but I know its always hard to control a large group of people. The staff of the event are all cool. Just a little bit unorganized on some occassions. As for my .02 of the Lancer guy, I did notice him showing off and holding us up during our sessions. But, you just have to ignore it and enjoy your time at the event. You will just ruin your day if you keep on worrying about that. Alright fellas, hopefully I meet you guys at the next event or meets (whenever). Laters.

[CleanS14]

Okay you guys know I didn't run... so this was an observer's POV...

Time on the track?
For the grip guys... I believe the time on the track was good. Just about the same time you'd get at an open track session (30min run intervals) and the run groups were divided welll even though there were some people that didn't belong in the groups they were in... but this applied to both grip and drift. One other thing is this event would suck for people like me who are trying to get times since the track was divided into 2 parts (one reason I chose not to go to this event).

Drift... first of all the track layout SUCKED... c'mon basically 2 turns maybe 3 could be utilized... and it was the west side of the track. There were obviously too many cars there to get a good amount of seat time. For the first timers it would be okay to waste tires on the JTurns/skidpad... but I still saw a lot of "unda" "unda"/plowing toward the end of the day (and they gave them a wet surface to play on... but this could induce understeer also).

How it was run?
Given it was the NCDA's first event... I would say everything went ok... BUT, not every driver was aware of the schedule, and some I know of were confused about where they should be... a little disorganization, but it can be cleared up for later events.

Safety?
Okay, now anyone who thinks that this event was safe is kidding themselves. Although the grip side of this event was rather safe... the drift was all bad. Considering the amount of newbs there and understeering/lack of control on the Jturns/skid pad... there should have been NO spectators allowed as close as they were. Now that I think of it... there should never be spectators that close. I know there was a limited amount of space... but they should have cleared out people from those areas. One other thing... there were a lot of one hand wannabe's... even passengers with their hands and feet out of the vehicles... in all the drift portion could have been a lot safer. Luckily there were no injuries/accidents.

What did you like about the event most?
The track is the only thing I'd say I would have liked about this event... other than that... and the fact that some of my friends came out to the event.

What did you least like about the event?
People like the black lancer pretending to be an evo... "Plow King" Drift track... who likes not having more than 2-3 turns to practice drift on (better to go cone dodging at a DD... at least you get a whole run). Grip, non-usage of the entire track... but since this was a drift/grip event I guess it was ok. There were too many cars there IMO... and the run groups were not divided up correctly. Basically as one person (who will remain nameless) put it... "it's a bunch of guys that *think* they're advanced LOL" The instructors were my friends... some guys were from my team. They are good guys to learn from, but there was no real prior instruction for drift. They should have IMO given a 30 second "what to try" "what you should feel" session for the newbs. I saw too much understeering toward the end of the day on the Jturns/skidpad... people should be spinning out rather than plowing by then.

Originally Posted by NZO
Big thanks to Jay for helping me out on the first few runs and putting up with what was probably some scary driving on my part
No problem man... actually you didn't scare me one bit... kinda conservative driving IMO!!! :bigok:

Sorry if my opinion doesn't matter here since I wasn't a driver... but it was just my review of the event.

[AutoRnD]

Time on the track? in my honest opinion.. i think.. it would of been better if say.. the run groups for drift hadabout 1 hour per session then switched off.. cause with 30 min intervals the run groups would be more in transition than actual in car practice.. but the day was fun...

How it was run? it was pretty good.. not much wrong for a first time run event..

Safety? it was relatively safe.. if common sense prevaled on the spectators then yes it would be fine on the skidpad/ j - turn section

What did you like about the event most? i think that the number of people there it showed great interest in more norcal events..

What did you least like about the event? i reallt didnt like the fact that i blew my motor on the grip side..
sorry for those in bg2 =( ... i guess 300k miles was the time the motor had to die...
well anyways other than that.. i think i reall disliked the black lancer.. i didnt even know it was only ff.. geez...

[TRUENOCOUPE]

Anyone wanna know who that dipshit is with the lancer?

http://www.calslam.com/forums/index.php?s=&act=Profile&CODE=03&MID=4

Feel free to email the guy. hahahha

[TRUENOCOUPE]

Oh yeah... Im a bastard...See reply on the bottom.

http://www.calslam.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4731&st=15&

[neevosh]

Overall, I had a fun time. My only complaint was not enough track time. I just started to get a feel for it, and it was over. It was the first time organizing a drift event like this one at Thunderhill, so there's bound to be some confusion, unorganization. I would have liked the spectators to be a little further away from the j-turn. Other then that, it was good. I'm glad they opened up the track at the end. It let me let off some steam after understeering all day. Too bad my exhaust fell off on the last lap.

[ootranceformeroo]

Overall I thought the event was pretty alright for their first event. As for the instructing, you guys should have asked (as stated in the drivers meeting) what you were doing wrong/right...etc. I also thought during the drift meeting, the instructors could have gave some tips/pointers and such. Time on the track I thought was okay. Grip drivers looked like they had a lot more than drift drivers.

Stupid "evo" guy....

Btw dball33, victor said he wants an s13. hehe. I think your the one with the black coupe right?

Anyways just my opinon even though I didnt drive.

[dball33]

Btw dball33, victor said he wants an s13. hehe. I think your the one with the black coupe right?


Haha. I had the black hb. At first he said that my car was a bit hard to drive but after he took it on the track he was like "After I drove your car, I couldn't F'ing drift in mines anymore."

[nokeone]

well after reading all that i must say i'm def not sad to have missed it...glad those who had fun did but it sounds like the usual Drift Day type event with not enough track time for too much money with too many idiots...

hopefully in the future they will get more frequent so that less people attend each one...or maybe they will sacrifice profit for pleasure and limit the entrants...

[ootranceformeroo]

haha yeah, I think that was the first time he drifted a s13. He said it was hella easier to drift it than his fc...

[knghtryde]

All and all I thought it was pretty kewl. Everyone got together kicked back and had fun. Besides driving time that's what it should all be about. I thought for those beginers who stuck to the skid pad, they had a lot of fun and enjoyed all the time they got on the skid pad.

I don't know. I don't have too much bad to say, I thought it was great for a first time event. Usually they get better as time goes on, or even to do a two day event would be kewl with some kind of competition set up. With a track it wouldn't be hard to do a time trial around the track.

Well thats my .02 cents.

[Toahk]

It was fun, towards the end of the day I basically had the skidpad all to myself because everyone was off doing whatever else. I was the 89 s13 hatch, number 516. I caught on pretty quick on how to swing the back end out but with my open diff most often than not I couldn't hold it. I'll definately go to the next one because im a local (live in Willows) . As with everyone else that fool in the black lancer with the headlights on the hood annoyed the shit outta me. Right when I got unpacked at 7 Am he pulled up beside me and started playing his stupid music loud as shit, and revving the shit outta his car up and down the paddock area. But anyways I hope people go to http://www.ncda.net/forums/index.php? and post all your pictures, id' love to see some video of people drifting if anyone got some good clips.

[kazuo]

As for those beginners, Instructors are your best friend.
Those advanced drivers aint good when they just started years ago..

haha my friend Chris got placed into "Advanced" for some reason and he started like a year or two ago! hahaha :P

I wasn't there but I've heard mixed stories... all I've gotta say is:

- at least its not cone dodging
- at least its in norcal
- its their first event & the following ones will be better!

Donald & Co. are trying hard to get this shit going in NorCal so we all best to come out to the events that are coming up! I spent a lot of time dishing out flyers so yall better not let my work go to waste :P

Best thing I heard about it though was that they had PRO photographers out there... my buddy got some NICE shots of himself gettin sideways. GREAT shit, they better have em at the next event cus I want a shot of me eating the dirt

hahahaha

:D

[rps13sh]

didnt the evo fry his clucth? i saw the car being hauled out by a tow truck

it was just a lancer rally edition front wheel drive with drum rear brakes with a turbo kit. it looked like a pos and you should have seen him burning his clutch out on the skid pad. thats probably why he had to tow.

[thx247]

There have been plenty of norcal events in the past. This event is one of the "larger" events but thats about it.

[roywhitep5]

omg that "evo" guy was stu. he use to crash our protege meets. my friend told me about this thread and when i heard "evo wannabe" and "made a total ass out of himself", i knew it was stu

offtopic: does anyone here know a guy named grayson?

[kazuo]

There have been plenty of norcal events in the past. This event is one of the "larger" events but thats about it.

Drift event in NORCAL?

The only one I recall was DD6, and I missed that one too due to shit happening.. :P

[thx247]

3 events in buttonwillow the last few months, all thread mentioned on zilvia at least once. Drift or grip. More track time, less people, skid pad etc etc. Same price, less filler.

I guess maybe you could say buttonwillow is not norcal. But when you drive 3 hours to either Thunderhill or buttonwillow, 3 hours is 3 hours.

[UCC0279]

Well, just wondering when will be the next one??

Again, not too bad for the first time, NCDA I am counting on you.

later

[nokeone]

3 events in buttonwillow the last few months, all thread mentioned on zilvia at least once. Drift or grip. More track time, less people, skid pad etc etc. Same price, less filler.

I guess maybe you could say buttonwillow is not norcal. But when you drive 3 hours to either Thunderhill or buttonwillow, 3 hours is 3 hours.

:werd:...

note to NCDA...next event you put on limit it to 30 drivers...would be soooo much better i'm sure...

and you might wanna look into booking a day here and there at Buttonwillow...just to mix things up...nice to have variation..

[ootranceformeroo]

:werd:...

note to NCDA...next event you put on limit it to 30 drivers...would be soooo much better i'm sure...

and you might wanna look into booking a day here and there at Buttonwillow...just to mix things up...nice to have variation..



30 people at buttonwillow is still alot :down: But 30 people for NCDA(at least the east loop) and would mean no money too....so they cant make much off of it. Maybe the whole track....I dont know... big events like that have around...100? too many...hehe. Ill just stick to private events and occasional NCDA/DD events.

A LOT more track time at privates :coold:

haha I love these new smiles!!! :hsdance: :blah: :blah: :blah: :faint: :fawkd: :sadwavey: :wiggle:

[daisosasen01]

it was a greyish/greenish 1991 s13 coupe that had the front conversion... oh yeah and we didn't have a number, we just joined the AD group

Does anyone have pics of the or those cars??? I practically have a complete front end 95 for my car but not sure to go thru it. And also I have a 1990 front end for my 95 and not sure to go thru it.

daiso

[knghtryde]

The S13 with the S14 front end that had the tech 3 sticker was in fact tech3's owner's car. Too bad he stripped it down suspension wize before selling it.

[fliprayzin240sx]

I dont know...personally i wasnt too impressed with the event just cuz the drift track was too short *2 f*ckin turns* and the skid pad/j turn needed to get freakin alot wider not longer. the guys on the grip pad had a blast *i give props to this guy named eddie...stock civic DX AUTOMATIC with type R suspension that was passing FDs and WRXs on the corners* Then the posser EVO got on my nerves *but he did redeem himself by blowing his POS up, tawt it was the engine, not tranny since i saw oil drippin off the engine* Josh Blew his engine....*it was jes a matter of time* :fawk: OS GILKEN IT IS BLEEEOTCH. Christian abusing his kouki...and last but not least...

ME gettin on the track for 4 laps on the last run fo fweeeeeeee...... :Owned:

[nokeone]

30 people at buttonwillow is still alot :down: But 30 people for NCDA(at least the east loop) and would mean no money too....so they cant make much off of it.

fuck making money...they get to drift for free as the ones who put the event on...that is their payment...if they are looking to turn it into a profitable job or an actual company then they can go fuck themselves and their 80-100 person, <10 miles of actual track time, worthless events...

on the other hand, people will still go to these events...Drift Days will always sell out...my guess is that these NCDA events will as well...it's like people paying $60+ for a lift ticket to snowboard...as long as there are enough idiots out there who will shell out the cash then there is no incentive to make things affordable...

so in that regard..more power to them and their ability to profit at the expense of their peers..if that is their goal..

as for Buttonwillow...30 is not too many drivers...it is the upper echelon of what is acceptable but it is every workable...you would still get 60-90 miles of on track time with this many people...and be VERY tired by the end of the day...even with this many participants you still have the track to yourself frequently after 12pm or so because people start to take longer breaks and get more fatigued..

but drive time is dependent on those participating in the event...Drift Days and this NCDA event pretty much cater to a less experienced group of drifters...this is always going to lead to less track time, more safety issues, and more problems overall...

anyway whatever...events are events and more events are a good thing...congrats on a successful first event!!

[knghtryde]

All Ray did all day was complain about how much he wanted to be driving instead of watching. That's the only reason RAY is saying that it sucked, cause he only got to drive when they opened the track up at the end.

LoLz.... I'm just F$%King with you...

[TRUENOCOUPE]

Retards...

[s13chica]

I have to agree with all the folk that were dissapointed with the event. I really don't think that it was worth the drive, or the money that I had to spend to get to this event.

The safety issue was horrible in my opinion. The fact that the cars had to cross each others paths to get from the skid pad to the j-turns, was just a horrible design. I also found myself not going balls out on the j-turns because I was afraid of messing up and hitting a spectator! I also thought it was bad because the track only had 2 turns that you could drift, and they were 3rd gear turns, and I really don't think that anyone there(including myself) besides some of the advanced group, should be attempting high speed drifts yet. I think that it just makes it possible for people to hurt themselves or thier cars!

I was getting so frustrated that I actually switched over to the grip group after lunch. I figured that since I wasn't learning anything new with drift, I might as well work on my grip skills.

I think I'm sticking to the buttonwillow events from now on...30 people is a great amount...Everyone is relaxed, chill, and you get more than enough track time. That, to me, is the PERFECT track day!

[knghtryde]

Al,

I think alot of people would love to check out your Buttonwillow Days the only problem is that alot of us work on weekdays and can't make em.

When do you think you'll be able to set up a weekend, button willow event.

Keep us all posted.

[TRUENOCOUPE]

1. I dont do it for money. I don't have 30 people at the track. I only want 20 or so to cover the track and any damages that we may have done. And my gas money. hahaha.

2. I love drifting and I want to get away from the big crowd without any of the runs groups. I have the free time of relaxing without any pressure of getting back to the track every hour without lossing track time. That goes for everyone. This is why I do my own track days.

3. My track days are not for everyone. Im not here to make everyone happy to fit on thier scheduling. Weekends are a lot expensive than weekdays and It would put a pressure on my ass to put atleast 30-35 people "JUST" to cover the track. Not just that, I also have to pay insurance for 25 or more. Which is going to cost me a lot of money and it all ends up to 40 plus people at the track which really sucks and defeats the "private event".

So... thats being said. My private events are not for everyone. Theres plenty of track days out there nowadays for weekends, especially for drifting.

You guys can check...
www.driftday.com
www.speedtrialusa.com
www.redlinetrackevents.com

and I know there is more...

-Al the Retard.

[ZerO_240SX]

Does anyone have pics of the or those cars??? I practically have a complete front end 95 for my car but not sure to go thru it. And also I have a 1990 front end for my 95 and not sure to go thru it.

daiso

i just found his sn... it's jaae86... its the coupe in his sig... that's the guy i was riding with

[nokeone]

1. I dont do it for money. I don't have 30 people at the track. I only want 20 or so to cover the track and any damages that we may have done. And my gas money. hahaha.

2. I love drifting and I want to get away from the big crowd without any of the runs groups. I have the free time of relaxing without any pressure of getting back to the track every hour without lossing track time. That goes for everyone. This is why I do my own track days.

3. My track days are not for everyone. Im not here to make everyone happy to fit on thier scheduling. Weekends are a lot expensive than weekdays and It would put a pressure on my ass to put atleast 30-35 people "JUST" to cover the track. Not just that, I also have to pay insurance for 25 or more. Which is going to cost me a lot of money and it all ends up to 40 plus people at the track which really sucks and defeats the "private event".

So... thats being said. My private events are not for everyone. Theres plenty of track days out there nowadays for weekends, especially for drifting.

You guys can check...
www.driftday.com
www.speedtrialusa.com
www.redlinetrackevents.com

and I know there is more...

-Al the Retard.

:werd: :stupid:

[neevosh]

I don't think Todd and Don are out to make any money by putting on drift events. Thunderhill ain't cheap, especially on a weekend. To cover the costs, they had to have more participants. I think we've all been spoiled by the Buttonwillow events. I hope to see you guys and gals at the next event, be it private or public.

[xchaosx]

What's up roy! this is grayson

[TRUENOCOUPE]

I don't think Todd and Don are out to make any money by putting on drift events. Thunderhill ain't cheap, especially on a weekend. To cover the costs, they had to have more participants. I think we've all been spoiled by the Buttonwillow events. I hope to see you guys and gals at the next event, be it private or public.

NO NO... Im not taking shot at Todd. Oh yeah, I KNOW HOW MUCH THE TRACK FEE'S ARE. This is why Im not even going to have any track events at THill since its too pricy for us broke folks.

I was stating my comments to Knyghtryde. Thats all.

[knghtryde]

Yeah I didn't take it as taking any shots and Don, Todd, or anyone at any of the DD events.

I think Al was just referring to me commenting about why he hasn't done any of these events on a weekend.

Hey Al, are you gonna have any on a Wednesday or Thursday any time soon, my brother wants to check it out and those are his days off from work. Or do you have a schedule or something posted or anything.

[nokeone]

i doubt there is a schedule..it's kind of a..."hey, does this date sound good?..ok, i'll book it"...and then that's the date...

[balmo]

i doubt there is a schedule..it's kind of a..."hey, does this date sound good?..ok, i'll book it"...and then that's the date...

yep yep. last sem my school worked around these events, hehehe. still lucky i was still able to pass all my classes.

[TRUENOCOUPE]

Oh yeah... Im a bastard...See reply on the bottom.

http://www.calslam.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4731&st=15&

How fucking ghey.

"The error returned was:

Your account has been temporarily suspended. This suspension is due to end on Feb 19 2004, 08:27 AM."

[nokeone]

^^ hahah...and i think they deleted your post as well..:p

[thx247]

shit, no one wants to hear what Al has to say anyway.


blah blah blah blah

[nokeone]

:blah: :blah: :blah: :blah:

[neevosh]

NO NO... Im not taking shot at Todd. Oh yeah, I KNOW HOW MUCH THE TRACK FEE'S ARE. This is why Im not even going to have any track events at THill since its too pricy for us broke folks.

I was stating my comments to Knyghtryde. Thats all.Oh, I wasn't directing that at you, Al. Some people were complaining about too many people and NCDA trying to make money off the event. What's your email again? I have a question about Buttonwillow.

[UberCaff]

This is what the retarded Lancer OZ rally edition owner had to say about me and my WRX.

UberCaff:
David, give me a call on my cellphone, we should hang out some time. I got a WRX.

Retarded Lancer OZ rally edition owner:
He ain't gonna call u biatch. WRX big deal. Run your car not your mouth. That's real talk.

[NZO]

What an utter cock-gobbler.

[thaiger77]

Someone should slap him silly and pull his head out of his ass!! Fake ass evo wanna be [email protected]#$#$ [email protected]##! ;-)

[Halz]

Time on the track? Was it like going to an SCCA autocross or was it a drift day with open track time?

I did 'grip'
Running half the track, ~2 hours of track time was enough for ~140miles on track (heh.. that gives an average speed of 70, which feels pretty right!)
On some more exclusive events, 180-200 miles has been possible in 4-5 hours of on track time (augh.. $$gas$$; 8mpg). Based on past track exposures, I was left with the feeling that it could have been better.. but with the number of people, it was the only thing possible.

How it was run? Did the thunderhill staff keep things running smoothly or was it a big cluster fsck out there? Don't forget time spent OFF the track, tech, registration etc etc

Registration was a kluge; it pushed the paper schedule off by 30min. What more, some required paramedics didn't show up until 9am. I'm of the impression that right when the track officials permit cars on the track, cars should be on the track. Attendees are paying to drive the car at the track, and they should receive as much track time as possible. I'd loved to have seen a grid in the hot pits at 8am :)

Safety? Did you see any unsafe things going on there? Spectators too close to your J turn? Unsafe passing etc etc ?

I saw that the skid pad area was in shambles.. paths cars had to take to get back into the long line put them in harms way. Spectators were too close and too dense for not having any barriers nearby. Maybe if the water had been utilized more, maneuvers could have been kept at lower speeds.

The paddock had some un-moderated crossings and lanes where I felt like I was at times in imminent danger.. maybe if the speeds lower, this wouldn't have been a concern.. always had to keep an eye out for the car that was late to its run group and needed to get a good place in line

What did you like about the event most?

Driving on the track with a wide array of vehicles (the fast ones, in particular!); M3s, FDs, Sti, RX8, Evo, 350Z.. Miata :p

The corner workers were AWESOME, and the track was in generally very good condition (little obstructive dirt from the 'offs' remained on the track for very long)

What did you least like about the event?

I *hated* seeing/hearing people speeding in the paddock.. and what I hated even more, was hearing thunderhill officials using the PA system to remind people (spectators and drivers) that they're being idiots (sitting on emergency vehicles at one point, even.. wtf?!) ...still more I didn't like about the event, but that might make me seem like a bitter elitist :ghey:.
I really wouldn't be surprised if Thunderhill declined a request to host another drift-inclusive event, and I would be surprised if they decided to host another.

[rps13sh]

got some pics posted on ncda forums

http://www.ncda.net/forums/index.php?

[mooboy]

What did you guys think of the event?

I thought the event was very well organized considering it was the first time this group did a drift event at thunderhill.

Time on the track? Was it like going to an SCCA autocross or was it a drift day with open track time?

A little of both. I though it was cool that we constantly got to do something due to the switching of stations. But I think it would've been good if we had a chance to rest for a little while. Seemed like the acition never stopped. :)


How it was run? Did the thunderhill staff keep things running smoothly or was it a big cluster fsck out there? Don't forget time spent OFF the track, tech, registration etc etc

The registration was kind of a clusterfuck. But it was understandable considering there were shitloads of people. Maybe have more people working the registration desk? Everything else was fairly organized.


Safety? Did you see any unsafe things going on there? Spectators too close to your J turn? Unsafe passing etc etc?

Didn't see anything really unsafe...

What did you like about the event most?

I liked the fact that we finally had a drift event in Norcal since DD6. My car was in the shop for DD6, so I didn't get to run. But I got to all day for this event. It was very fun and I learned a lot.

What did you least like about the event?

I didn't like FF ass clowns who tried to do donuts by going in reverse and ended up fucking up their car. *cough* fake evo *cough*

[rps13sh]

[b]

The corner workers were AWESOME, and the track was in generally very good condition (little obstructive dirt from the 'offs' remained on the track for very long)

[b]

I [b]*hated* seeing/hearing people speeding in the paddock.. and what I hated even more, was hearing thunderhill officials using the PA system to remind people (spectators and drivers) that they're being idiots (sitting on emergency vehicles at one point, even.. wtf?!) ...still more I didn't like about the event, but that might make me seem like a bitter elitist :ghey:.
I really wouldn't be surprised if Thunderhill declined a request to host another drift-inclusive event, and I would be surprised if they decided to host another.


thank you, me and my friends are awesome. :rawk:

FYI: thunderhill is working to rearrange their current schedule to support more drift events, they are begging NCDA to come back and hold another event. (yes bay area, there will be more)
* S U R P R I S E!* hal

thanks for your reply halz, NCDA will try to improve in everyway so everyone will be happy. or atleast they'll try. once again you have to be remided that this was NCDA's first event. it WILL get better with more experience. NCDA staff is only trying to get the bay area together and have some fun like socal does. lets work together and help NCDA. send your feedback and let them know what they should do and shouldnt do for the next event.


www.ncda.net/forums

[XIII]

Oh yeah... Im a bastard...See reply on the bottom.

http://www.calslam.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4731&st=15&
Amazing. All this drama over one black mitsu. I guess some ppL just need someone 2 hate.

One word of advice to TRUENOCOUPE. You lied, hated and ripped your friends off before I even knew you. There are so many ppL hoping to just bump into you, I'd lay low and not compound the issue. Only a matter of time b4 one of your former friends just snaps. I swear, some ppL act like they got a death wish. Good Luck, Ivan...

[TRUENOCOUPE]

Amazing. All this drama over one black mitsu. I guess some ppL just need someone 2 hate.

One word of advice to TRUENOCOUPE. You lied, hated and ripped your friends off before I even knew you. There are so many ppL hoping to just bump into you, I'd lay low and not compound the issue. Only a matter of time b4 one of your former friends just snaps. I swear, some ppL act like they got a death wish. Good Luck, Ivan...

HUH?
-I Lied?
-Hated?
-Ripped my friends off?

I don't even know where this is coming from.

Oh yeah, I don't have friends.

-T.N.O. I live by the name.

[knghtryde]

Okay Al,

What did you do to who this time. Always getting into trouble I see. J/K. Okay exactly what happened to this thread?

[TRUENOCOUPE]

Okay Al,

What did you do to who this time. Always getting into trouble I see. J/K. Okay exactly what happened to this thread?

Hogibsafuk.

Its the Lancer owner. I think he used to own TS. I meet him before.

[knghtryde]

Okay but who's XIII?

Is he the Lancer Guy... What a sad sad person to come onto Zilvia and try to bash a regular Zilvia user....

[nokeone]

XIII....lol...haha...oh no, 13..the gang!..uh oh, watch out now...fuckin tools..:rolleyes:

[KpaBap]

XIII is the FWD drift monster, also co-founder of TS.

Stew, looks like you're becoming famous for all the wrong things.

And I still wanna see that FF drift monster do some runs up and down Page Mill.

[TRUENOCOUPE]

Wait... Founder of TS was Ivan not stew or is it the same person?

[nokeone]

TSS kills....

[mooboy]

XIII is the FWD drift monster, also co-founder of TS.

Stew, looks like you're becoming famous for all the wrong things.

And I still wanna see that FF drift monster do some runs up and down Page Mill.

Is your definition of an FF drift monster someone who lines up to do backwards donuts hella times, proceeds to not do shit but burn the shit out of his clutch?

Check out this vid for a REAL FF drift monster who will be in upcoming D1 events.

http://my.so-net.net.tw/s3sport323/cv4.wmv

[KpaBap]

Stew runs Calslam now.

P.S. It's called sarcasm

[mooboy]

Stew runs Calslam now.

P.S. It's called sarcasm

If that's sarcasm you are really good at it.

Now that's sarcasm.

[knghtryde]

I still haven't figured out when this thread got jacked and focused on Some Dumb Ass in a Wannabe EVO who was making more noise than actually drifting, and Al.

[nokeone]

i'm sure the "recap" would have run it's course anyway by the end of the 3rd page...i mean how many times do we really need the same account of the event?..

[thx247]

normally I wouldn't care about gay internet fighting!

BUT YOU BASTARDS JACKED MY THREADD!!!!!

My ego is ruined now

[ootranceformeroo]

check it out guys...for all you that loved that OZ lancer "evo"

UNDA UNDA UNDA!(in every single picture...and they say it couldnt be done...)

http://www.streetracing.org/home.php?op=go&id=930

[NZO]

on this FWD drift monster


Stinky "C" slid sideways all over Thunderhill Raceway on Saturday Jan. 17th at the Northern California Drift Association (NCDA) Inaugural event.

:fruit:

Pure comedy.

[rps13sh]

was that how he burnt his clutch to completion?

[nokeone]

check it out guys...for all you that loved that OZ lancer "evo"

UNDA UNDA UNDA!(in every single picture...and they say it couldnt be done...)

http://www.streetracing.org/home.php?op=go&id=930

that's a joke right??..right!?!.. :squintd:

[ootranceformeroo]

that's a joke right??..right!?!.. :squintd:


Whatchu mean? Hes the fwd drift king! All that understeer helped a lot :p
Hahah I guess hes known to burn clutches...doing stupid shit like what he was doing.... :sadwavey: I think his car deserves to break down on him as long as he keeps doing that!

not sure if that article was serious or not.....no matter what it was a joke to everyone that saw him. But I bet you can tell by just looking at the pics. :squintd: heheheh

[mooboy]

I still haven't figured out when this thread got jacked and focused on Some Dumb Ass in a Wannabe EVO who was making more noise than actually drifting, and Al.

Funny enough the oz lancer dood has become the object of ridicule for a number of forums. :rofl: :duh: :bash: :hyper:

[knghtryde]

Who ever did write that article. Where they actually at the event or did they just see some pictures and the word of the Wanna Be Evo.