Fitting Seats: D.A.D. (bracket issues)

[mastaflash05]

i got a pair of dad. racing seats in a trade for some wheels, and they came with universal brackets, but im haveing a hard time coming up with a way to custom mount these. i think the guy that old them to me said soething about corbeau brackets fitting them, but idk. ill ask him about that. what have you guys done as far as fabricating a way to mount seats?

[DoriftoSlut]

I would modify those to look like they are sitting in a dumpster and get some seats that actually fit in the car.:o :( :D

[brianglawson]

Originally posted by DoriftoSlut
I would modify those to look like they are sitting in a dumpster and get some seats that actually fit in the car.:o :( :D

yeah they would look good in the dumpster, especially with you sitting in them!!! he asked a question, try and help him, or just tell him to search, becasue this has been covered alot.....

im not for sure but i think alot of people modify there stock brackets...the hump in the floor is hell for fitting seats..other than bride or recaro

[mastaflash05]

whats wrong with these seats? i think they look good and are prety comfortable. anyway, i searched and came up with someone selling a corbeau bracket, and his in my area so i might meet him to see if thos ebrackets would work, or be able to be modified easily. what other manufacturers make sliders for the 240sx?

[brianglawson]

i know bride supposedly makes the best , but talk to dousan_PG about modifying them to fit them, i think he has tried alot of differnet seats with bride brackets....

[mastaflash05]

ok ill ask him and see what he says. i searched and found that some brackets wil make he seat sit too high. people said that the corbeau bracket made the seat sit low. if i get a bracket that sits low and has the bolts going thinto the seatverticly, then i can make something to fit my seat. some kind of adapter plate or something.

[mrmephistopheles]

The SLUT is referring to the fact that those seats are crap. Some Corbeau or Sparco would be much better if you can't afford Bride or whatever. All these APC/DAD/Tenzo R seats just arent built very well.

[brianglawson]

Originally posted by mrmephistopheles
The SLUT is referring to the fact that those seats are crap. Some Corbeau or Sparco would be much better if you can't afford Bride or whatever. All these APC/DAD/Tenzo R seats just arent built very well.
not being a prick or anyhting, crap or not, i sat in a set of saome DADs one time and they were very comfortable, im not sure on quality though

[mastaflash05]

well they sure look a hell of a lot better than my old, stained, torn, stock seats with 107k on them. i couldnt justify spending near 1000$ for a pair of seats, personaly. they may not be the best, but they will do the job for now. i would ratehr have cheaper seats and put more money where it would be more benificial, like the engine, suspension or brakes.

im just curiouse, but what makes the higher priced seats better? heavier, sturdier components?

[Dousan_PG]

i sat in DAD seats and ineed back surgery right after
painful seats.
up there w/ TENZO. ouch!

rails. MAKE YOUR OWN
buy a welder and metal and go to work. you wont find any good rails for those seats.

gotta go custom 100%

[DoriftoSlut]

Originally posted by mastaflash05
well they sure look a hell of a lot better than my old, stained, torn, stock seats with 107k on them. i couldnt justify spending near 1000$ for a pair of seats, personaly. they may not be the best, but they will do the job for now. i would ratehr have cheaper seats and put more money where it would be more benificial, like the engine, suspension or brakes.

im just curiouse, but what makes the higher priced seats better? heavier, sturdier components?
Admittingly, I am a little bias towards Bride or Recaro (I have a Brix). But what good is going fast and handling well if you can't stay in the seat? Sliding all around the cockpit of your fancy "fast" car is a good way to get yourself killed dead. Whatever... I know most people wont agree with me (you would if you ever owned a good seat) but its still my opinion.

From what I understand and have seen and test fit, the Bride rails will only fit Bride seats. The Recaro rails are like most... universal with a car specific bracket... aka sitting too high. A lot of people with Recaros (in japan) have generic seat rails (no name) that are basically Brides with holes aligned for Recaro SRDs.

Honestly, DAD, Tenzo R, APC, Etc.. are the SUCK. THEY BLOW ASS. I am not making it up... go down to Pep BOYS! or Autobacs and sit in them... they are the most godawful uncomfortable POSs i have seen.

As for what makes Bride a good seat? You ever see those Sparcos or whatever that advertise "wear-resistant patches" like on the shoulder bolsters and the sides and shit??? I bet you think: Cool, those are wear spots so they need to be reinforced.

Fuck that! Why are those spots sturdy material and the rest sucks? (The rest really does suck). Not only that, its uncomfortable as hell to have rubber there... it grabs your clothes and shit...

A Bride is made with (imo) the highest quality material i have seen for a seat (save for highclass OEM where each seat cost a couple grand). THE WHOLE SEAT is a soft, comfortable, wear resistant tough, triple layer cloth with double stitched seams, very good foam for the cusions as well as thick plastic plates (also foam covered) for other bolsters... like the leg bolsters. Sit in a Corbeau. You have a big metal pipe covered with cheap fabric jabbing you in the thigh.:confused: :rolleyes:

Anyway, the hardware, craftsmanship, comfort and FUNCTION of having the support of a bucket seat but adjustability of a relicner (Bride Brix).

ps. how do i know about long term use you may ask? Dousan's Brix is a OOOOLLD model. it has to be 5-7 years old. How many tears are in it? 0. How many holes? 2 tiny ones. One from a cigarette and one from wear. The 2nd one is about the size of a pinhead. Seriously, i didn't even notice it was there until like 3 days later.


But yeah... get some DAD seats for $150 and then wonder why they dont fit good and shit.

[DoriftoSlut]

Oh i forgot to add: Bride reclining seats are made like OEM seats. This is how they sit so much lower than other aftermarket seats. WTF am i talking about? The ass of most aftermarket seats is like 3-5 inches thick for cushioning and whatnot. The Bride is like.... 1 maybe (at the ass). It cushions from an OEM-type spring web under the seat. (you know it looks like a matress frame kinda).
That combined with integrated, quality brackets and sliders makes the Bride seats sit MUCH lower than any others i have tried. My Brix is even lower than stock S13 seat.

[Dousan_PG]

werd :D

when you really examine various seats side by side, you really note the details

living in so cali helps alot
go to autobacs
have your friend blindfold you and make you sit in varoius seats..which one feel best. i bet you money you'll rate the BRIDE one of the top seats for comfort AND support!

dad seats you'll break your tailbone

[DoriftoSlut]

Originally posted by Dousan_PG
dad seats you'll break your tailbone
Hahaha! OHHH SNAP! Coke Bottle SPL!

[brianglawson]

you say recaros dont sit low either, i thought the japanese recaro seat brackets sat very low, please correct me if im wrong....

[Dousan_PG]

Originally posted by brianglawson
you say recaros dont sit low either, i thought the japanese recaro seat brackets sat very low, please correct me if im wrong....

they may/may not sit as low for a few reason:
cushion design
rail design

so could go either way

[mastaflash05]

yeah i get what your saying, but i paid 250 for the wheels i traded to get the seats, and the guy gave me 100$ with the seats. so its like i paid 150$ for 2 brand new seats. oh well, i guess since they are garbage i should sell them, and spend 10x as much as i paid for these :rolleyes: .

and my stock seats arent that great anymore. the drivers side is torn down to where metal is sticking out, and the padding is worn down, making them not so comfortable.

i ask for advice and get replies telling me to throw them away, and that they are crap. Find me a better seat that i can get for what i paid, and ill go get that one.

oh well, im probobly going to sell them.

[brianglawson]

ok i was thinking of trying to find some over stock recaro srd seats or the new speeds, and was curious about it, but hell who knows i might try and find a wrecked wrx sti or evo and snatch those recaros and have them reupolstered

[DoriftoSlut]

Originally posted by brianglawson
ok i was thinking of trying to find some over stock recaro srd seats or the new speeds, and was curious about it, but hell who knows i might try and find a wrecked wrx sti or evo and snatch those recaros and have them reupolstered
I dont get it... you think that is going to be cheaper than getting a Bride seat or something?


Sorry to come off harsh to some people, but i dont buy things cause they look better then another (excpet for aero parts or wheels) I actually drive my car and I can tell you first hand what is good and what is not good (imo). of course i realize not everyone is like me, so if you are buying seats to give your car a "Race" look or feel, buy whatever....

[mastaflash05]

well, i couldnt justify spending the money on top dollar seats. i would spend my money in other places, like i said before. oh well, ill sell them to a honda guy. i need the money more than the seats anyway. thanks for the info, my questions are answered.

[Kookaburraz]

Doin it right...custom.

And yes, the welding does suck ass, but I promise that it's at least 20% the welder I was using:p

https://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/brjones/rails%20006.jpg

[mrmephistopheles]

hhahaha
HOLY SHIT, Kookz! I thought >I< was a bad welder! :D
Bitchin' brackets though!

[brianglawson]

Originally posted by DoriftoSlut
I dont get it... you think that is going to be cheaper than getting a Bride seat or something?


Sorry to come off harsh to some people, but i dont buy things cause they look better then another (excpet for aero parts or wheels) I actually drive my car and I can tell you first hand what is good and what is not good (imo). of course i realize not everyone is like me, so if you are buying seats to give your car a "Race" look or feel, buy whatever....

Recaro srd's or speeds are about 300 a seat cheaper than a bride, so there you will see where im a getting a cheaper price, also a recaro is a very nice seats, some of the best in the world, on the recaros out of a wrx sti or an evo, hell i can get those for 100 bucks a peice and get the recovered for 100 bucks a peice, 400 dollars on a set of OEM recaros that look decent FIT decent and are very good seats, i cant afford 900 a seat, i wish i could, becasue some new bright red bride ergo 2 seats would be in my s13, but i cannot, A recaro is dam site better than all the others, i wouldnt consider anything else other than recaro or bride of course, i have sat in a lot, i tried dad seats one time and they were comfortable, but i do see where they would struggle trying to hold you in place. Thats one thing bad about this board, everyone that has bride, or these super low offset wheels and 500rwhp on there sr20det, they have to bash everyone elses stuff, maybe everyone on this board doesnt want to be a mad JdM TyTe Yo DriFtER and have 17x9.5 inch with a 10mm offset on there daily driven car or 900 seats they have to worry about getting torn or stained on there daily driver, maybe they just want some good comfy seats that grip you decent, look nice, and will last for a while...... rant rant rant sorry for the long post

[DoriftoSlut]

Originally posted by brianglawson
Recaro srd's or speeds are about 300 a seat cheaper than a bride, so there you will see where im a getting a cheaper price, also a recaro is a very nice seats, some of the best in the world, on the recaros out of a wrx sti or an evo, hell i can get those for 100 bucks a peice and get the recovered for 100 bucks a peice, 400 dollars on a set of OEM recaros that look decent FIT decent and are very good seats, i cant afford 900 a seat, i wish i could, becasue some new bright red bride ergo 2 seats would be in my s13, but i cannot, A recaro is dam site better than all the others, i wouldnt consider anything else other than recaro or bride of course, i have sat in a lot, i tried dad seats one time and they were comfortable, but i do see where they would struggle trying to hold you in place. Thats one thing bad about this board, everyone that has bride, or these super low offset wheels and 500rwhp on there sr20det, they have to bash everyone elses stuff, maybe everyone on this board doesnt want to be a mad JdM TyTe Yo DriFtER and have 17x9.5 inch with a 10mm offset on there daily driven car or 900 seats they have to worry about getting torn or stained on there daily driver, maybe they just want some good comfy seats that grip you decent, look nice, and will last for a while...... rant rant rant sorry for the long post
I know what you are trying to say, but understand I am not bashing anyone for not having the same goals as me. I am trying to explain to you guys in an effective manner what i know and have learned about various seats mostly through hands on testing and use.

I tried to tell you that you will not have to worry about ripping a Bride seat. Staining them? Well I have a bright red one so I suppose i am just asking for stains but luckily its still like new. Thats another thing... buy used brides (I know its hard now). Thats how Dousan, Nokeone, and I got our Brixs. Noah paid like $.03 for his, Aaron $400, and me $650. I dont mind paying 650 for mine cause it was basically brand new. I saved $300. But if I had waited I could have had a Brix for $400-$500. Oh well.

Anyway, yeah SRDs are nice blah blah blah But you still have to get low sitting rails, or make your own. Same with the STi seats and such. Honestly, if you wnat something similar but still has OEM feel and quality (sounds like you just want some nice looking, quality seats to replace your stockies) get S15 Spec R seats. bigger bolsters than S14 and SUPER good fabric. I have one for my passenger seat. Its niiiiice.


Anyway. I doubt you meant anything by it, but what is wrong with daily driving a drift car? I drive mine every day in Long Beach CA. I cant wait to move so that I can have less populated, normal streets like most other people. All I gotta say is... commuting touge everyday to school in a couple of months... NICE.

[brianglawson]

ok , no i wasn tmeaning anyhting by it, and i would love brides, i truely would but i might be lucky if i get recaros, i scan ebay japan alot but i hardly ever see a set of brides for a decent price that isnt faded all to hell and stuff, and yes i want something that looks nice, but i am like that, this will be my everyday car for a good while so i want it to be presentable....but i do see what you are saying, and the s15 seats arent quite as extreme(bad word to use) as i would like, i want something to hug me...i grew up with my dad having a benz e class and it had the big benz sport edition seats in it and i love having a seat hug me to the point where i cant move, truthly the ultimate seat to me would be a bride used or new but recovered in nice leather with preforated centers just like my dads benz seats.... i love how smooth leather is, but now im kinda goin OT so ill stop blah blah lol,

later
~Brian~