Am I bleeding the clutch right? And new car!

[Grocery Cart]

This is my first post since I became unbanned last night. :hsdance::hsdance:

Yesterday I bought an 89 s13 from this old guy in my town for $700. So I've got my s14, a parts s14, and this. This will be my daily while I'm building the s14 for senior project.

Problems right away! What's to be expected with a 240sx though? :rofl:


The guy said he had to replace the Slave cylinder, so as soon as I got home I replaced it. Turns out that was actually fine. It was the master clutch cylinder that needed to be replaced. Replaced it this morning, and began to bleed the clutch system.

I had a tube off the bleeder valve on the slave cylinder into a bottle and had one friend putting clutch fluid when it got low, and one friend pumping the clutch. He had to pull the clutch up because it didn't come back down itself. We bled it for a while, even when bubbles stopped coming out and we had to refill it about 3 times with nothing but fluid coming out and the clutch wouldn't get any stiffer and still wouldn't come back up.

Am I doing this right? I've read a few threads and "guides" on it, but I'm getting different answers from everyone.

[shinobis13hb]

After you closed the nipple and pumped the pedal it stil wouldn't come up?

[dontxploitme]

pump your life away

[Grocery Cart]

pump your life away

I pumped about two and a half hours of my life away.

After you closed the nipple and pumped the pedal it stil wouldn't come up?

Still wouldn't.

[Felipe]

i read this problem before on here... some where... lol some thing about a box under the car near the tranny and getting rid of it... not sure tho.

[Grocery Cart]

i read this problem before on here... some where... lol some thing about a box under the car near the tranny and getting rid of it... not sure tho.

A friend of mine had the exact same problem.
Said he bled the clutch at least 4 hours for 3 days before he finally just took it to a shop to get it done.

I don't have $200 to spend :/

[boyou2]

do you still got the damper loop?

If so, pull it of, and plug the hard line directly to the slave line.

like here :

http://www.zeroyon.com/index/content/view/32/47/

[DoobieS13]

^^^This...mine kept "slipping" it was because the clutch damper had air pockets in it...i would be in 5th gear at 4500rpms and going 35 lol easy fix, all that box does is take the chatter out of the clutch...another OEM extra.

[SRTFerg]

Just go with a single line. You will thank yourself later. I have the single line on my setup and it makes a world of difference and its less that can go wrong. Took me about 30 mins to install the line and bleed it.

[Grocery Cart]

do you still got the damper loop?

If so, pull it of, and plug the hard line directly to the slave line.

like here :

Clutch Line Modification - Removing Damper Loop - zeroyon.com (http://www.zeroyon.com/index/content/view/32/47/)

^^^This...mine kept "slipping" it was because the clutch damper had air pockets in it...i would be in 5th gear at 4500rpms and going 35 lol easy fix, all that box does is take the chatter out of the clutch...another OEM extra.


So this won't affect my clutch in anyway? Besides a stiffer clutch?

And I'm kinda iffy on doing it.. I don't want to mess up the hard line.

Right now I'm letting the clutch bleed itself. I've got the bleeding tip unscrewed a little and i'm letting it drip into a pan, refilling when it's about 1/4

[sr20sean]

get a speed bleeder for both the box(if youre keeping it) and the slave cyl. they work wonders.

[Grocery Cart]

Is it possible that the fluid is actually fine, and there may be a spring or something like that not pushing on the clutch? Because I noticed there's a big coil on the top and it comes out a little when I push the clutch in. It doesn't do that on the s14 clutch.

[Grocery Cart]

My clutch engages now, but my keys won't get out of the "lock" position..

[Felipe]

but my keys won't get out of the "lock" position..

turn the steering wheel all the way to the right lol :snoop: jkjk

[Grocery Cart]

turn the steering wheel all the way to the right lol :snoop: jkjk

I took your advice, and when I couldn't turn right anymore, as soon as I turned left the key turned.:rofl:

[Felipe]

LMFAO!!!

:picardfp:

[KendallH]

This thread :picardfp:

Just yesterday I bled my clutch, by myself, in 10 minutes.

edit: with the dampner

[fliprayzin240sx]

So this won't affect my clutch in anyway? Besides a stiffer clutch?

And I'm kinda iffy on doing it.. I don't want to mess up the hard line.

Right now I'm letting the clutch bleed itself. I've got the bleeding tip unscrewed a little and i'm letting it drip into a pan, refilling when it's about 1/4

Taking out the clutch loop is pretty much one of the first things most guys do with their car. Bleeding the system is a fucking nightmare with the loop in place. You always have air in the loop that wont clear out...

[Irresistible]

Stainless braided auto to manual line its the easiest way to get rid of that dampener box thingy.

[Grocery Cart]

Well I finally finished, clutch works and all. Got in, super excited. Finally get to drive the car I bought two days ago.
Turn it on, clutch in, foot on brake, put in reverse, and I started rolling backwards.

Gotta replace the Brake master cylinder now. Lol :I

[KendallH]

Is the BMC leaking out of the back? My coupe hasn't been driven since 98 and I just bled the brakes and they work fine.

[Grocery Cart]

Is the BMC leaking out of the back? My coupe hasn't been driven since 98 and I just bled the brakes and they work fine.

Yesss. Right where the brake cylinder connects to the brake... I forgot what it's called.. The big circular thing. It's leaking.

[JKL1031]

has anyone done this by bending the line? I might do this tomorrow.

[boyou2]

Yesss. Right where the brake cylinder connects to the brake... I forgot what it's called.. The big circular thing. It's leaking.

master vac' ?

[badbob2121]

Stainless braided auto to manual line its the easiest way to get rid of that dampener box

^this, you really should have removed the damper

get rid of all those hardlines
http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy317/badbob2121/IMG_0797.jpg

[chiboy002]

has anyone done this by bending the line? I might do this tomorrow.
the stock hardline the goes to the dampner box from the master cylinder? yeah, you have to really gently bend it back as to not kink or break the line

much better to just get the stainless, its about 30$
Stainless braided auto to manual line its the easiest way to get rid of that dampener box thingy.
best shit ever

[badbob2121]

much better to just get the stainless, its about 30$

Its cheap, easy, and you gotta love the simplicity
http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy317/badbob2121/IMG_0780.jpg

[fliprayzin240sx]

has anyone done this by bending the line? I might do this tomorrow.

I've done this on numerous S-chassis, disconnect the hard line form the damper box and bend it by hand. You use your hand, it'll be pretty hard to crink it unless thats what you're trying to do.

[chiboy002]

Its cheap, easy, and you gotta love the simplicity


can potentially clean up the bay a lot too if you use ss lines for all those things and route em properly

[bladetech8]

^^
Personally man, there's nothing cleaner than the Clutch hardline, its routed perfectly, and away from the EGR and exhaust.. Just bend it gently 180* and get yourself a short SS line to replace that rubberized piece of shit expanding clutch line. I've seen too many stainless steel lines routed like crap.. OEM ftw..

My pedal is nice and stiff, and the engine bay is clean with all the stock hardlines going across the firewall in their respective clipped spots..