View Full Version : $130 ebay HKS bov, Fake or real? you be the judge. (Gaaang of pics)
Tantwoforty
12-16-2011, 12:55 AM
So a friend ended up ordering me one of these, they didn't really about knockoffs and stuff and thought it was a good deal, cant hate on someone for trying to help you out. So ill give it a shot and if it fails, ill happily buy a real one like i was already about to do
So it was listed for like $120 on ebay.
Came with a HKS lanyard and free shipping
got to me in one day
Would someone take apart their "Real" HKS valve and take the same pics?
Dont post your stupid knock off hate, i dont care.
It will be another month or so before i can test it.
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo27/jager951/bov/IMG_0261.jpg
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo27/jager951/bov/IMG_0262.jpg
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http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo27/jager951/bov/IMG_0296.jpg
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo27/jager951/bov/IMG_0266.jpg
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo27/jager951/bov/IMG_0267.jpg
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo27/jager951/bov/IMG_0286.jpg
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo27/jager951/bov/IMG_0287.jpg
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo27/jager951/bov/IMG_0288.jpg
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo27/jager951/bov/IMG_0289.jpg
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo27/jager951/bov/IMG_0270.jpg
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo27/jager951/bov/IMG_0271.jpg
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo27/jager951/bov/IMG_0272.jpg
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo27/jager951/bov/IMG_0273.jpg
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo27/jager951/bov/IMG_0275.jpg
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo27/jager951/bov/IMG_0276.jpg
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo27/jager951/bov/IMG_0278.jpg
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo27/jager951/bov/IMG_0279.jpg
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo27/jager951/bov/IMG_0280.jpg
Someone make a caption to this picture.. lol Y U BUY KNOCKOFF?? idk lol
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo27/jager951/bov/IMG_0281.jpg
i diddnt know you only had to take out the 4, im dumb.
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo27/jager951/bov/IMG_0282.jpghttp://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo27/jager951/bov/IMG_0283.jpg
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo27/jager951/bov/IMG_0284.jpg
messen up my shots..
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo27/jager951/bov/IMG_0285.jpg
screwing back the ones i diddnt take out? girlfriend cam..
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo27/jager951/bov/IMG_0290.jpg
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo27/jager951/bov/IMG_0291.jpg
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http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo27/jager951/bov/IMG_0294.jpg
I used barcode scanner on my girlfriedns epic, it showed this
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo27/jager951/bov/IMG_0298.jpg
our keys lol
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo27/jager951/bov/IMG_0300.jpg
spooled240
12-16-2011, 01:09 AM
just looking at the price for a BNIB condition bov and the fact it's on ebay it's probably a knockoff, my friend had one of these. I heard they work and sound pretty good though
idahotuner
12-16-2011, 01:19 AM
i say its real. just because its on ebay dont make it a fake. alot of businesses sell parts on ebay that are over stock, looking at all the pictures, its real
Lvnismo
12-16-2011, 01:20 AM
THE CAT IS REAL!!
It looks real to me... Imma try to post the pick of my friend hks blow off valve..
rat240
12-16-2011, 01:22 AM
knockoffs are getting harder to spot . the company's who make them basically replicate the entire package and instructions
so yours is most likely fake
DRIFTING_SIL_EIGHTY
12-16-2011, 01:48 AM
Looks like a fake. Can you take a better pic of it from the side ? Like a direct side shot with the fins and base. Or pm me since I might forget about this thread. The price is also a little fishy. But it could just new old stock that just needs to go. The lanyard looks real lol.
Tantwoforty
12-16-2011, 04:18 AM
Looks like a fake. Can you take a better pic of it from the side ? Like a direct side shot with the fins and base. Or pm me since I might forget about this thread. The price is also a little fishy. But it could just new old stock that just needs to go. The lanyard looks real lol.
Yeah ill take a few better pics for you tomorrow.
I was more excited about the lanyard :D
I agree its a little fishy with the price, but looking at it physicality it looks pretty good
Lets keep the poll going!
7evil
12-16-2011, 06:25 AM
It seems so real that I would say that is false! However I think it is a replica made in China, and now we are selling lots are IDENTICAL to the original in every detail.
Chaluska
12-16-2011, 07:51 AM
try it out, if it works, use it.
if not, file a paypal dispute, and demand a refund
rblover
12-16-2011, 08:29 AM
yeah its real, there are a few different types of the ssqv thats the non adjustable, but the fake ones say sqv instead of hks, but all the internals are hks just the outside housing is different, it'll still work the same so why not.
hartig
12-16-2011, 09:06 AM
HKS USA Counterfeit Identification Center (http://www.hksusa.com/info/?id=3646)
seems suspicious that your box has a barcode right there when the real one has no barcode..
i could easily be wrong though
rebornS14
12-16-2011, 09:12 AM
HKS USA Counterfeit Identification Center (http://www.hksusa.com/info/?id=3646)
i say it's real or china upped their game cause i can't find any points that say its not real.
omgRWDgoodness!
12-16-2011, 09:16 AM
yup thats a bov
*slow clap*
dorkidori_s13
12-16-2011, 09:21 AM
im gonna say fake (i have an authentic SSQV3 on my car to compare to). yours doesnt have the holofoil letters on the HKS logo located on the rear of the BOV. also, the piston inside the BOV should be a deep red...yours appears to be pink/purple
Tantwoforty
12-16-2011, 09:43 AM
im gonna say fake (i have an authentic SSQV3 on my car to compare to). yours doesnt have the holofoil letters on the HKS logo located on the rear of the BOV. also, the piston inside the BOV should be a deep red...yours appears to be pink/purple
I think only the v3 has the big holofoil thing on the back, this is a V2 wich i dont think ever had anything more than the small HKS logo
Looks extctley like the one on FRsport oh and mine had the little black cover on the nipple, i just lost it before taking the pictures
HKS 71004-KK001 Super SQV Blow Off Valve SSQV Limited Edition Black (http://www.frsport.com/HKS-71004-KK001-Super-SQV-Blow-Off-Valve-SSQV-Limited-Edition-Black_p_10258.html)
http://i2.frsimg.com/images/detailed_images/HKS_71004-kk001_4.jpg
http://i2.frsimg.com/images/detailed_images/HKS_71004-kk001_5.jpg
http://www.frsport.com/HKS-71004-KK001-Super-SQV-Blow-Off-Valve-SSQV-Limited-Edition-Black_p_10258.html
http://i1.frsimg.com/images/detailed_images/HKS_71004-kk001_1.jpg
slw240sx
12-16-2011, 10:02 AM
if the HKS photos on their site are correct for most or all knock offs, then this is more then likely a knock off. look at the cap nuts holding the back section together. the caps in these pictures are longer before getting to the "dome" of the cap. i have a few broken knock offs here with me and they all have the same type of nuts. the real HKS have more of a bullet cap less straight before getting to the dome. also the BOV i have here has a bead on the vacuum stem not just straight steel pipe. that would also lead me to believe its knock off. i would think the genuine HKS would have that bead also.
The knock offs are getting to the point where they are almost completely identical to the real deals. the best thing for these companies to do to help people from passing off fakes as real is if the companies instituted a serial number program an had a database to which you could register the part and confirm it being legit.
the worst part about all this is... no one knows for sure if these come from the factories that HKS has them manufactured at and purchase them from or if they have just decided to rip them off down to the packaging.
dorkidori_s13
12-16-2011, 10:14 AM
I think only the v3 has the big holofoil thing on the back, this is a V2 wich i dont think ever had anything more than the small HKS logo
Looks extctley like the one on FRsport oh and mine had the little black cover on the nipple, i just lost it before taking the pictures
if you noticed that on FRSports site, they have this info posted..
"This product is currently unavailable. Please contact us for more information."
FRSport usually only posts that when an item has been discontinued. HKS hasnt made the SSQV 2 for quite a while now (its been over a year i know that). also the price point, if you pay under $200 for a brand new SSQV, especially on ebay, its 90% likely a knock off
EDIT: also, the finishing on the inside of the inlet (where it mounts to the flange) looks fairly unfinished (rough). this is usually a dead giveaway. a real HKS is always smooth and rounded. the fakes end sharply and usually feel jagged. one last thing, if i remember correctly, the flange base itself shouldnt have a mold line on it like yours does. i wound up with a fake HKS SSQV 1 in a trade i did with some kid a while back locally, the quality of the fake compared to my real SSQV 3 was instantly noticable. the pistons were night and day difference, the internal finishing around the inlet like i mentioned above was a huge factor and the nipples were different sizes, the fake was huge, the real one was not.
filluptieu
12-16-2011, 10:47 AM
Its not real in my opinion. I posted a thread up of a real one side by side with a fake and the best way to tell is weight. The real one is much heavier because of a higher metal content.
aaronbaird
12-16-2011, 11:06 AM
its fake, only because it was a good deal, and it was on ebay.
jacobs13
12-16-2011, 11:22 AM
My brother bought one of these and it was really hard to tell if it was real or not but after comparing it to my real one you could tell the craftsmanship was better. Youll find little imperfections on the fake but non on the real one.
axiomatik
12-16-2011, 11:32 AM
Pricing suggests that it is fake. And it's not like a one-off thing. The ebay sellers have hundreds at the cheapo-price.
I mean, come on, $80 + free shipping from Singapore? That certainly sounds like genuine HKS pricing.
Universal HKS SQV SSQV 4 IV BOV Turbo Blow Off Valve JDM For ALL Turbocharged B | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-HKS-SQV-SSQV-4-IV-BOV-Turbo-Blow-Off-Valve-JDM-ALL-Turbocharged-B-/390364658357?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item5ae38bfab5#ht_5423wt_1105)
jumpman2334
12-16-2011, 11:57 AM
^yup
where is the sellers location? that will tell you your answer right there.
Tantwoforty
12-16-2011, 12:00 PM
The one she ordered shipped from CA
I can weigh it no prob, i have a digital scale.
It dosent really feel jagged anywhere, but the cast line on the flange and poorly finished underside of the cap is a good point.
You need to realize that there is a very substantial difference between the v1 v2 and v3, like 5 years+ of R&D it had better change
Also, it clearly says on the FR sport site that this was discontinued, they only made so many of the black v2's as a USA special promotion in 2010.
I mean, im sure its not real. it will prolly work fine.
Well keep it commin :D
dorkidori_s13
12-16-2011, 12:14 PM
actually the fake ones work like shit...they work decently for a few weeks to month (if youre lucky), then they start messing up. ive been hunting around on various forums since this thread and all the info sounds about the same...they work great for a short time, then crap out completely
save some cash, get a SSQV 4...support real parts ;) (not trying to bust your balls or anything)
Tantwoforty
12-16-2011, 12:21 PM
Oh i already have the money put aside for a brand new SSQV 4 i wasnt expecting to get this one
boost leak on me one time, i dare you ill put your ass on the train tracks. lol
doomviillain
12-16-2011, 12:39 PM
HKS Blow Off Valve ? BOV - real vs fake item (http://realorfakeitem.com/real-vs-fake/hks-blow-off-valve--bov-id24)
NickIsAZero
12-16-2011, 01:53 PM
It's fake, my buddy bought one a year ago for himself. I stole the HKS lanyard and went on my way.
Tantwoforty
12-16-2011, 02:08 PM
It's fake, my buddy bought one a year ago for himself. I stole the HKS lanyard and went on my way.
i almost lost mine!!
teh smithers
12-20-2011, 06:42 PM
I purchased one of these months ago, from eBay, for the same too-good-to-be-true-price. Real or fake, mine has worked just fine. I'm gonna play devil's advocate and say it's fake (mine probably is too), but it works, so screw it.
Gordon12
08-05-2016, 09:37 AM
Looks fake. The Chinese are getting very good. I just bought one for $120. In the pictures on ebay, it was real, the one they sent me, a fake. Look at the badges. They will look nice and smooth, sit flush. The vacuum port is shorter, 23mm long the fakes are 26mm long. The fakes have longer heads on the small castle nuts. And the large round HKS badge on the back will be nice and bright looking with its colors, not so dull. And the retainer ring should be very smooth, not so cheap and square cut.
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Gordon12
08-05-2016, 09:38 AM
Fake, notice the badge doesn't sit flush.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160805/e66ff01ad1379480666cc25704925ea5.jpg
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Gordon12
08-05-2016, 09:39 AM
FAKE the nuts are longer than on a genuine, and if you measure that vacuum port with the black cover off, it will be 26mm, fake
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160805/4a6131220f93266af2ac1441dae47bbd.jpg
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Gordon12
08-05-2016, 09:41 AM
FAKE the real ones seem to have a bit of a gap you can see through. These I guess are too tight and don't function properly.http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160805/c647c3640974768b2409b036b03f8260.jpg
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Gordon12
08-05-2016, 09:42 AM
FAKE this badge actually looks ok in the pic, but the colors inside the hks barely show up. On a real, it will be nice and vivid. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160805/2415964b3cb0136c27435610ce24670a.jpg
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RB25GUY
08-05-2016, 11:12 AM
lets keep bumping threads from years ago.....
Gordon12
08-05-2016, 12:38 PM
New and updated information never hurt no one. Exactly, years ago, shit has changed. I through some "updated" pics in here to help others or new people that stumble across the thread that may have the same question. Not all of the signs are the same, knock off have gotten better at replicating garbage.
At least my replies had a purpose, un like yours.
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RB25GUY
08-05-2016, 12:44 PM
Dude 20 people already confirmed it what good did you do? 5 years later...... beating a dead horse.....
Gordon12
08-05-2016, 12:52 PM
That close minded? Like I said shit changes. Especially from 5 years ago. Obviously this guy got his answer. Copies are getting better. But still flaws.
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RB25GUY
08-05-2016, 12:58 PM
This would be the easiest way to tell if you got a fake or real hks bov if your HKS bov comes with the flange, its fake the flange is sold separately and never comes with the bov in the box.... no questions doesn't matter how good the quality is.....
Hoffman5982
08-05-2016, 01:06 PM
Not only are you simply trying to get your post count up by posting in multiple posts what you could have simply posted in one, you're an idiot because you're comparing the v3 to the v2 that OP has, which has already been stated by someone else.
Gordon12
08-05-2016, 02:01 PM
Didn't come with a flange. Already know that.
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Gordon12
08-05-2016, 02:03 PM
Not only are you simply trying to get your post count up by posting in multiple posts what you could have simply posted in one, you're an idiot because you're comparing the v3 to the v2 that OP has, which has already been stated by someone else.
You talking to me? Because if your are you have no clue what your saying. I havnt posted in here in over a year let alone even logged in. And more, only posting in this thread.....
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RB25GUY
08-05-2016, 02:15 PM
You talking to me? Because if your are you have no clue what your saying. I havnt posted in here in over a year let alone even logged in. And more, only posting in this thread.....
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:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: if you knew that than why not post it since nobody has and you wanted to post new info for people?? Aug 2016 is this year check you sig, Aug 2015 was last year so......
https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-12/2/7/enhanced/webdr06/enhanced-25601-1449059962-8.png
Gordon12
08-05-2016, 02:52 PM
Lol maybe you should face palm your self a little harder. Because yessssss these recent posts just now, with the fricken pictures are mine yes. Recently, yes, sense yesterday yes. What the hell is wrong with you guys? I'm saying before that, I havnt even posted in another thread for probably over a year but this other guy is saying I have. Lol how are you guys so confused?
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Hoffman5982
08-05-2016, 05:23 PM
Join Date: Aug 2016
No shit you haven't posted in over a year, you haven't posted anything ever because you're new. The fuck are you even talking about?
Gordon12
08-05-2016, 06:11 PM
Actually I just made a new one because my old email I used before was deleted, sense it wasn't used in over a year. So your statement helps the fact of my fucking question as how the fuck am I posting in multiple posts dip shit?
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Gordon12
08-05-2016, 06:12 PM
Lol children why are you even trying to start an argument with me? Typical these days I guess on this band wagon.
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Hoffman5982
08-05-2016, 10:20 PM
Who the fuck said you're making multiple posts? Reading comprehension must not be your thing.
Gordon12
08-05-2016, 10:51 PM
Dude. You seriously have some problems. You did. You want me to screen shot and underline it for you? Lol if your gonna talk shit at least get your shit straight.
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Hoffman5982
08-05-2016, 10:55 PM
Yeah please do, because I never said you're on multiple accounts. I said you made multiple posts(hint: they all started with "FAKE!!!" like you were making some ground breaking discovery) that could have all been condensed into one single post, but you made several to get your post count up. Learn to read, and write, and you won't look like such a dumb ass.
Great job comparing your v3 to his v2. Bravo.
ZenkiKid
08-05-2016, 11:02 PM
http://i.imgur.com/RRiz3.gif
Gordon12
08-05-2016, 11:03 PM
Bro, your losing it. Get help. I never said, that you said I have multiple accounts. You said I was in multiple posts. Your making "yourself" look like the dumb ass. Am I arguing with a 16 year old or something? Yeah damn right I'm going to respond to something directed at me. But that fact that you even came in here acting like this. Childish.
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Gordon12
08-05-2016, 11:06 PM
And it's not about comparison. It's about how they are making them now, updated but still to show the current flaws. The hell out of here with your pathetic shit.
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Hoffman5982
08-05-2016, 11:07 PM
You're right, I ASSUMED you meant multiple account because YOU went on a wild tangent about your old account and having not posted in a year. I assumed that because I didn't think you were stupid enough to deny making multiple comments when it's written in ink if you just scroll up, but since you're that fucking retarded, I'll quote the multiple posts for you:
Looks fake. The Chinese are getting very good. I just bought one for $120. In the pictures on ebay, it was real, the one they sent me, a fake. Look at the badges. They will look nice and smooth, sit flush. The vacuum port is shorter, 23mm long the fakes are 26mm long. The fakes have longer heads on the small castle nuts. And the large round HKS badge on the back will be nice and bright looking with its colors, not so dull. And the retainer ring should be very smooth, not so cheap and square cut.
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Fake, notice the badge doesn't sit flush.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160805/e66ff01ad1379480666cc25704925ea5.jpg
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FAKE the nuts are longer than on a genuine, and if you measure that vacuum port with the black cover off, it will be 26mm, fake
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160805/4a6131220f93266af2ac1441dae47bbd.jpg
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FAKE the real ones seem to have a bit of a gap you can see through. These I guess are too tight and don't function properly.http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160805/c647c3640974768b2409b036b03f8260.jpg
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FAKE this badge actually looks ok in the pic, but the colors inside the hks barely show up. On a real, it will be nice and vivid. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160805/2415964b3cb0136c27435610ce24670a.jpg
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I stand by what I originally said, you're a fucking moron.
Hoffman5982
08-05-2016, 11:10 PM
Good job trying to get your post count up by pointless bringing up a 5 year old thread. But I'M pathetic. Coming from the guy who doesn't know the difference between sense and since? Yeah ok guy.
Gordon12
08-05-2016, 11:13 PM
There is no hope for you. I mentioned something about a different account once because I was getting corrected on how I havnt posted in a year, but obviously because I had just made an account and some one wasn't understanding that very well and for who knows what reason needed that explained to them sense they care so much for only God knows what reason. And yes I stated already that I posted multiple pictures. The hell dude find something better to do with your life, put the fucking pipe down, crack, weed, meth, electronic vape dildo, what ever the fuck your smoking. Go to bed. Your making 240 kids look continuously worse. The crowd is bad enough as it is. Stating stupid ass facts i already stated myself or twisting shit around that I've said.
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Gordon12
08-05-2016, 11:20 PM
I literally give no fucks about post count. Would have been done at the end of my main posts. Than I got some shit dip coming along and basically raising it up for me. Like I said, would have been done. But thanks duder.
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rawgarage
08-05-2016, 11:21 PM
Price alone is a giveaway
Gordon12
08-05-2016, 11:23 PM
Price alone is a giveaway
Yep. I kinda figured when purchasing. But the pictures they had posted on ebay, were actually legit. But I'm sure they just sniped the pics of Google for their listing.
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Hoffman5982
08-05-2016, 11:29 PM
You are so incomprehensible it's hilarious. Your mother must be proud. Again, good job pointlessly bumping a 5 year old thread with your unimportant info. You weren't even providing info on the latest version of the ssqv. Your info COULD have been helpful back in 2012. 4 years ago. Unbelievable.
Gordon12
08-05-2016, 11:35 PM
Larger words are not making you sound any smarter. No need to continue.
Being as this one (that I posted) was JUST purchased, it is very obviously still going around. So 2012, 2013, 2016, old model, but still changes are being made to it. It's helpful. I know right
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Hoffman5982
08-06-2016, 01:03 AM
Oh are those big words for you? Bless your heart.
It's an old model, ie discontinued. That means HKS no longer makes them. That means anyone buying those on ebay know, or should know if they aren't idiots like you, that they aren't authentic, that means made by HKS. No reason at all to prove that they are fake when it is blatantly obvious. Now shut the hell up.
Gordon12
08-06-2016, 06:57 AM
You continue to show your absolute stupidity. Are you really that close minded as fuck? No one cares how old or new it is. There is still people that sell shit (that can be 100% legit) used or new that they just have laying around. You never really know.
You must have started out as one of those dumb ignorant honda kids or something. Like seriously, your not proving any points. Literally, no one gives a fuck.
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Hoffman5982
08-06-2016, 05:33 PM
Seriously, shut the fuck up. Jesus H Christ
Gordon12
08-06-2016, 05:37 PM
What you should have done all along.
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