Isis product help

[S14Lee]

I am looking to upgrade to all new suspension stuff here when I get my money from my lawyer. I was looking at the Isis stuff and have seen some good and bad reviews on the stuff. I'm looking to upgrade tension rods, traction rods, RUCA, and whatever else they make for suspension upgrade but not there coilovers. From what I was told that Isis stuff is High maintenance like alot of there ball joint stuff is not self lubricating and you have to clean them like when your changing your oil. I know that you get what you pay for but I want to know from people on here that have or still running there stuff and never had a problem and what are you running made by Isis. Thanks

[EsChassisLove]

You get what you pay for.

I have their intake manifold. Not a problem with it. But it isn't mechanical. Cheap+mechanical=OHSHIT

[Copilot911]

You get what you pay for, personally with important stuff like suspension arms I wouldn't trust anything besides pbm, stl, stance, ect.

[S14Lee]

Well I was going to get them from enjukui racing and the guy I spoke to said from experience they are pretty good product but you have to clean them when you change your oil. And that there more of a mid grade product that's for people that are on a budget. He did offer me spl products but by the time I buy there stuff it's going to be alot off money. That's why I figured I'll ask to see if anyone on here has first hand running Isis stuff. And what there experience with and not just from the guy I spoke with at enjukui

[Zero-Offset]

isis/enjuku has got my vote for affordable, tough, decent quality parts. i have their full suspension arms on my car for a little under a year now. i went through a winter where we got some snow during daily driving, and i haven't had any problems.

i would suggest cleaning/lubing them with a good lithium grease/something that wont dissolve once in a while. one of my RUCA's was getting a bit sqeaky, so i lubed all of the heims while i was under there and they are silent and work great since.

i take my car to the track also, and went up over some bumps/dips/potholes during the day and everything is holding up great, no surprise there.

this is my 2 cents. of COURSE you can buy BETTER more expensive arms for your car, but for what i use my car and my budget, isis has been great.

[S14Lee]

Ok thanks so how often do you lube them up at every oil change

[joshchewuhh]

spend the money once. SPL>PBM>megan>isis.

you get what you pay for

[KAT-PWR]

spend the money once. SPL>PBM>megan>isis.

you get what you pay for

Would like to see test results on some of that. (Not saying that SPL/PBM aren't top notch)
But i'd have to question whether you have used each set of individual products.
ISIS has a warranty and is backed/sold by Enjuku.

I have had ISIS RUCAs, Traction, Toe, and Tension rods on my car for a year now and have had 0 issues. Never really cleaned them beyond a wipe down once or so while adjusting coils. No creaks/cracks. Welds are nice on the arms, end links have held up fine.

[Sauce98]

Most people will bash on Isis since it hasn't been around for long or have good rep like other brands that people have stated. They seem like good quality parts and you could get a good package deal for less than what I paid for my Stance ruca and toe rods.

[Csomme]

Ever hold an ISIS product next to a PSM/SPL product? Night and day difference.

Isis is great for the money, affordable, and gets the job done.


However, grade of steel, rod ends, bearings, ete, brings a whole new light to the topic.

If you're building a racecar, go with something like SPL, or Stance. If you're looking to get the job done and keep some cash in your pocket, go ISIS.

I love all the guys down at Enjuku<3

[WERDdabuilder]

no love for BV?

[AceUp]

Like everyone said ISIS is good for the money. I rock them on my race car and have no problems. ive never lubed anything. The arms are substantially beefier then the ebay china crap u get for 60 dollars. My only wish is for curved toe rods ;)

[tunermt]

ISIS is great for the money and it's not to hard to throw a little lube on things from time to time haha ;)

[95KA-Turbo]

I went through two sets of cheap (ebay not Isis) RUCAs (they tacoed when I dropped a wheel at a drift event) before I spent the money on SPL arms...by that point I could have bought their toe arms too.

I suggest forking the money over the first time. Enjuku is an excellent company and Ken stands behind any product he sells - but IF something happens you can lose control of your car and wreck, or if nothing bad happens you at least still have to wait for a new arm to show up in the mail.

[TheRealSy90]

Where are these "bad reviews" that you have read? I haven't seen a single one.

[joshchewuhh]

well from my own personal experience.

isis
I bought the whole set from enjuku. For the price I said fuck it ill give it a shot. Well the arms do look decent but my car was too low to rock the ruca and toe. The spherical ends were cheap, but if your on a budget and your car isnt low go for it. Enjuku has great customer service. Sold them a week later and got PBM.

PBM
I bought these arms early this year and I loved them. Great for low cars, however 5 months in all my ends were shot. Binding issues, annoying squeeking, seized rod ends. I even managed to strip the threads off my tension rod (aluminum suspension parts=NO NO). I had the last ones before the newest version. They do not sell the old rod ends seperate for whatever reason. So im in the process of selling them for cheap.

I then waited for Enjuku's black friday sell and picked up all SPL for dirt cheap. Let me tell you just holding these parts in my hand I knew they were quality parts. The ends are high quality and with those hybrid adjusters and titanium nuts makes the arms that much better. I have yet to throw them on my car, but will do so this weekend.

Also what a lot of people don't know about SPL is that they have a loyalty program, which means when they come out with a newer version you simply give them your old arms and you get the new versions for 45% off. Also SPL arms are made in America not some random chinese warehouse or where ever competitors arms are made.

my 2 cents.

moral of my post- Buy it once cry once.

[jonsparrow]

Where are these "bad reviews" that you have read? I haven't seen a single one.

actually my friends isis turbo elbow (o2 housing) just cracked in half at the welds. its only about a month or so old.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c192/jonsparrow/isis.jpg


but i do have a bunch of isis parts sitting here waiting to be installed. including the same elbow. i hope mine wont have the same fate.

[imverus]

actually my friends isis turbo elbow (o2 housing) just cracked in half at the welds. its only about a month or so old.

but i do have a bunch of isis parts sitting here waiting to be installed. including the same elbow. i hope mine wont have the same fate.

you're a fool for using that china 5 bolt gasket. Knowing that, your friend probably did something stupid to crack that turbo elbow.

[jonsparrow]

you're a fool for using that china 5 bolt gasket. Knowing that, your friend probably did something stupid to crack that turbo elbow.
:stupid:
IM a fool? how am I a fool? that is not my car. i did not install that on that car. mine is still in the box ten feet away from me as i type.

edit: actually here...pic or it didnt happen right? brand new not installed.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c192/jonsparrow/378876_252554158138005_100001502680651_732768_1585 189197_n.jpg

[Promise Land]

I just installed the whole Isis suspension arms in the last couple weeks. I did the Energy Suspension bushings at the same time. I haven't driven the car yet, but I thought the arms were good for the money.

[G35_S13_Coupe]

bump for the guys at enjuku. in my opinion the parts are good for the money. i think enjuku and the isis brand do a great job getting people started. isis is just the gateway part until you take the next step and spend the money on pbm, stance, ect.

[Enjuku Racing]

actually my friends isis turbo elbow (o2 housing) just cracked in half at the welds. its only about a month or so old.

but i do have a bunch of isis parts sitting here waiting to be installed. including the same elbow. i hope mine wont have the same fate.

Has your friend contacted us or the dealer he purchased it from? I am sure he will get taken care of. We have seen 5 or so have issues out of the few thousands we have sold. All of which were replaced right away. Most of the cracking is caused by an exhaust hitting the ground, excessive vibration from loose hardware, etc.

about 75% of the time we see a failure with any brand it is usually customer error, install error, or other factor with the car that causes a failure. Thing we like about ISIS is they will replace just about anything, as long as it isn't a blatant miss use or something break from a crash :o)

We have sold and used just about every brand product out there, from Tomei, HKS, etc down to a lot of ebay items that were on customer cars. We have seen failures with EVERY Single brand we have ever sold, it is all about how the manufacturer will help the consumer. Some companies are really good and easy to deal with, others are very hard to deal with.

Thanks
Ken

[Prok0]

actually my friends isis turbo elbow (o2 housing) just cracked in half at the welds. its only about a month or so old.


Was he running a flex section in his downpipe? Also was the car bottoming out on the downpipe and causing excess force to be transferred to the o2 outlet?

At any rate, have him give us a call and we should be able to get something going for him.

That is a first though, I have not seen anything like that happen with ISIS o2 outlets. We have a few guys at the shop here that still have SR and KA-T cars running ISIS manifolds and o2 outlets on their personal cars and have not had an issue like that.

Also I would like to just reiterate what has been said, we brought ISIS on board to offer an entry level budget minded part, we still sell and fully support the larger more well known brands (SPL, APEX'i, Greddy, HKS, etc.) but this is simply another option for our customers to consider when on a tighter budget.

[EnjukuBG]

Jonsparrow, I'm waiting for a response from your friend with more photos.....he hasn't replied in 2 days. I'm trying to get his situation taken care of.

[slambarsoldier]

I have ran ISIS arms for two season.
I drive with zero regard for the car or the parts on the car. I seem to have been wrecking alot as of late and have had ZERO problems with these arms. My old car was wrecked head on at 50-60 mph into a wall. The tension rod bracket ripped in half and left the arm perfectly intact. I still have that tension rod for a spare, and wouldn't think twice about putting it back on my car.
I stuffed the car at Irwindale last year and broke alot of stuff. Slammed my rear wheel and front wheel into the wall. The ISIS arms were all the way good. No cracks, bends anything.

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/387211_10150402718991546_563836545_8527978_2044076 982_n.jpg
no damage from that

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/388600_195411463870788_184025348342733_425505_2865 79372_n.jpg
no damage from that either

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/73912_443722986609_510896609_5853945_1522527_n.jpg
nothing broke or bent from all like 15 of the wrecks in that car either.

If that isnt proof of how tough these arms are, Idk what is.

[slambarsoldier]

Ryan Tuerck also runs them on his missile car.

That car goes through HELL, and he hasnt had any problems with them.

Missile car restoration. | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150480480851391.416686.337778151390&type=3)

[G35_S13_Coupe]

Bump for ken at enjuku! Excellent customer service. I recieve better service from them than I have working with PBM.. and to me customer service is a big deal. Give Ken a raise! lol

[S14Lee]

Thanks to everyone for your reponse I guess I just have to decide when I get my money and see what will work with my budget.

[blingbling]

I just had the full ISIS suspension arm kit installed and fitment was pretty much spot on, everything was well packaged and came promptly. Ken was extremely helpful when I had any questions regarding his products and I have been nothing but impressed. I would recommend getting this kit, it's tested and proven to be as beefy as you'll ever need.

[Umbys]

I just bought the isis shortshifter brand new $60 shipped from another forum. quality is pretty nice. I had to modify it myself a little because i heard of the rattling problems but then thats with almost any shortshifter for the 240. Added sum grease, stiffer springs, a small gasket under the aluminum piece that touches the other metal parts. Installed it. Feels amazing, but rattles a little only when i get on it but then again i got stance coilovers and i feel/hear every bump i hit.... Overall im very pleased with the product itself.

[tqstarburst]

Enjuku is IMO #1 in customer service.

[jonsparrow]

@guys from enjuku

i dont know how it broke or anything. he sent that pic to my cell phone and said "isis turbo elbow". i havnt heard from him sense.

like i said i have a ton of isis products waiting to be installed. so i fully support an trust them. :bigok:

[EnjukuBG]

Bump for ken at enjuku! Excellent customer service. I recieve better service from them than I have working with PBM.. and to me customer service is a big deal. Give Ken a raise! lol

The boss can't get a raise. Tell him to give me one! HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

[Enjuku Racing]

Maybe we should have a vote and see who everyone thinks should get a raise at Enjuku.. ahhahahaha

Ken

[slambarsoldier]

Pat should get a raise! HE'S RAD! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Newtypex]

Putting in all new aftermarket arms isn't an upgrade. Z

[EnjukuBG]

Putting in all new aftermarket arms isn't an upgrade. Z

Aftermarket arms that are adjustable isn't an upgrade?

[Newtypex]

Only one that I could ever justify needing is the upper control arm to fix camber from lowering the car. Though being a fabricator I extend my own. Heim joints are not practical for street application. Considering this guy is probably not racing his car for a professional team and trying to shave seconds off his lap time, I'd say they are a waste of money. Stock arms work great and if one is that picky, change the old bushings to new ones. Save money and put it where it is better suited.

[XxHybridx]

^

dont feel like looking for a "cool story bro" gif

[Bushido]

you need upper camber arms AND toe rods to change camber chief.

[sileight_04]

I own a shop and we are an isis dealer. Before becoming an isis dealer we purchased multiple products and installed them on our personal vehicles and customer vehicles for our own form of testing just to see if it was all too good to be true. . . .it wasnt and isnt.

We have put the isis arms imparticular through multiple drift competitions, time attack events, as well as over a year of daily driving out here in the sandy texas desert. We have never had any squeaking or binding issues in this time or through these extremes. Upon installing the arms we did lubricate the joints as you are supposed to with 90% of joints be them oem or aftermarket. One of the first vehicles we installed the arms on which is daily driven and daily harrassed was on the lift for some routine maintenance a couple weeks ago and upon giving it a once over the arms were all checked and we still in tip top shape, not even requiring a cleaning or lube.

I have used multiple arms on the 5 s-chassis i have owned as well as on customer s-chassis and other chassis, from ikeya, spl, kazama, battle version, megan, nagisa, circuit sports, fortune auto, stance, powered by max. After personally inspecting and using all of the brands i just listed, i would only rate 4 of them as higher quality, but they are out of the isis price range by decent amounts, some leaps and bounds above isis. Isis are by far an amazing arm for the price, as all of their products are.

We stand behind isis a a great parts manufacturer just as much as enjuku and isis themselves.

[Prok0]

Only one that I could ever justify needing is the upper control arm to fix camber from lowering the car.

Once you install the RUCA if your car is low and you adjust camber you will notice that your toe will be way out of spec, and to get it back in spec you would need toe rods.

Also adding caster in the front of the vehicle can greatly change the steering feel of the car

And by adjusting traction rod length you can greatly alter the camber and caster curves through the suspensions range of movement.

[EnjukuBG]

Only one that I could ever justify needing is the upper control arm to fix camber from lowering the car. Though being a fabricator I extend my own. Heim joints are not practical for street application. Considering this guy is probably not racing his car for a professional team and trying to shave seconds off his lap time, I'd say they are a waste of money. Stock arms work great and if one is that picky, change the old bushings to new ones. Save money and put it where it is better suited.

That didn't answer my question haha. Regardless of street or race car. Its still an upgrade. Everyone has their own opinions as to what is necessary. IF you're only putting RUCA's on cars without adjustable toe rods, you most likely eat tires up.

[gallo]

isis is ok for the money . . most of the parts i have are isis . . the suspension is good for a while but now both my rear shocks are leaking and not really getting shop support. . my s14 is starting to leak in the rear as well. . i just daily drive both of them and they have not even been driven that much cause i was deployed for about 7 months. . hope none of the engine parts fail on me . . but again for the money is ok. . i would save my money and try fortune if i could start over on suspension though

[waxball88]

Only one that I could ever justify needing is the upper control arm to fix camber from lowering the car. Though being a fabricator I extend my own. Heim joints are not practical for street application. Considering this guy is probably not racing his car for a professional team and trying to shave seconds off his lap time, I'd say they are a waste of money. Stock arms work great and if one is that picky, change the old bushings to new ones. Save money and put it where it is better suited.
So me, with no welding experience. It is more cost effective to have parts modified then buying arms for a couple hundred. Not to mention once you fab the stock arm how you want it you also don't have adjust-ability to change set-up. So then if i do want to change the arms i pay someone how much, twice?

[GBREEZY69]

isis is ok for the money . . most of the parts i have are isis . . the suspension is good for a while but now both my rear shocks are leaking and not really getting shop support. . my s14 is starting to leak in the rear as well. . i just daily drive both of them and they have not even been driven that much cause i was deployed for about 7 months. . hope none of the engine parts fail on me . . but again for the money is ok. . i would save my money and try fortune if i could start over on suspension though


:wackit: I have been using ISIS coil overs for almost a year. I have never had any problems with my coils what so ever. I have been running the rear full hard for the last eight months in the rear..... still no leaking and no issues what so ever. Just saying. As for the Isis Arm kit I bought them 9 months ago been running the hell out of them on a consistent basis. So I def believe you get more than what you pay for. I highly recommend ISIS.:rant:

:bs::bs::bs:As for Mr. Gallo, You have never been deployed nor do you understand what a deployment means.... I mean if you consider AIR FORCE BASIC TRAINING AND AIT AS A "DEPLOYMENT" Then I guess you have been deployed. I know we have only been drifting one time together... U never once complained about ISIS suspension components Nor have u said anything about leaking. So do yourself a favor make sure you state facts not FICTITIOUS ARTIFICIAL BS.... Have a nice day :bs::bs::bs:

As for your engine parts, I know for a fact you beat the shit out of your car... I know I do. Any motor can have the possibly of failing no matter where you got it from. Mechanically all motors will eventually fail, It's a given. ESP if YOU BEAT YOUR CAR AT DRIFT EVENTS,(or daily) what could you possibly expect???:sadwavey: I know we have only been drifting one time together... U never once complained about ISIS suspension components

So once I get my motor I will def beat the shit out it, but i will def make sure it is properly maintenance at the "local shop" since I have amazing shop support. :coold::werd:

Dear Mr. Gallo,

"PS TRY NOT TO OVERHEAT IT AGAIN...AGAIN...AGAIN." :)

[h2v7]

hey enjuku do you still have that s13 isis arms package and what all is included, everything for the front and back?

[Newtypex]

You need toe rods to adjust toe.. My car is not slammed to an unfunctional level. I track my car. The stock cams on the other arms work fine.

[EhrikETFG]

You need toe rods to adjust toe.. My car is not slammed to an unfunctional level. I track my car. The stock cams on the other arms work fine.

you have no idea what you're talking about.


my car is stupid low and my isis arms have been fine, i drive it every day, with stupid stiff coils and a stupid welded diff and they have been awesome to me.

[Enjuku Racing]

hey enjuku do you still have that s13 isis arms package and what all is included, everything for the front and back?

The arm package includes Front Tension rods, Rear Toe Rods, Rear Traction Rods and Rear upper control arms.

thanks
Ken

[NickIsAZero]

I then waited for Enjuku's black friday sell and picked up all SPL for dirt cheap. Let me tell you just holding these parts in my hand I knew they were quality parts. The ends are high quality and with those hybrid adjusters and titanium nuts makes the arms that much better. I have yet to throw them on my car, but will do so this weekend.

Also what a lot of people don't know about SPL is that they have a loyalty program, which means when they come out with a newer version you simply give them your old arms and you get the new versions for 45% off. Also SPL arms are made in America not some random chinese warehouse or where ever competitors arms are made.

my 2 cents.

moral of my post- Buy it once cry once.

Damnit I forgot about their Black Friday Sale! I don't wanna pay full price for things.

[landins13]

ordered through enjuku......spl FTW
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll192/landins13/IMG_20111025_123531.jpg

[h2v7]

so would need to buy inner and outer tie rods seperatly?

[Prok0]

so would need to buy inner and outer tie rods seperatly?

For SPL yes, SPL only sells outter tie rods to be used with another manufacturers inner tie rods, they do not currently make their own inner tie rods... Here are fitment instructions direct from SPL's website.

240SX with stock knuckles: Use with OEM 300ZX (Z32) inner tie rods or Tein 350Z (Z33) inner tie rods only.

240SX with modified (increased steering angle) knuckles: Use with S14 inner tie rods (OEM, Tein, Ikeya Formula, etc).

We are glad you guys are liking the SPL arms and we are very excited for their new product offerings in the future.