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frizzle
12-02-2011, 06:14 PM
Pretty sure its been answered before, but I cant find it. Im wondering what you guys are using to get that crazy camber in front? Im at -3* right now with PBM first gen coils and camber plates maxxed out, and im trying to get to about -5* to -6*. I do not want to run a smaller bolt as a fear of it backing out some how. I do have adjustable FLCA's now, but was told that would do shit for me. Is my only option to notch the camber plates?
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k51/hargraves86/IMAG0406.jpg

ILoveMyRHS13
12-02-2011, 06:17 PM
You could notch the top hole in the bottom mount of the coilovers.

drifter808
12-02-2011, 06:21 PM
Just drill a new top hole in the coilover mount. Did mine and now with camber plate all the way positive it's around -7.

Lukasss
12-02-2011, 06:23 PM
You could notch the top hole in the bottom mount of the coilovers.

Thats what I did, Im at about -5* right now, but i could easily go to about -7*

Basically made it look like this

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp99/DMaxUSA/Products/DriftSpecCoiloverBracket.jpg

frizzle
12-02-2011, 06:29 PM
Thats what I did, Im at about -5* right now, but i could easily go to about -7*

What did you use to slot the hole?

Lukasss
12-02-2011, 06:36 PM
Thats not the picture of my coilover or anything lol, but it essentially looks like that.

I used a Dremel.
Ive seen people use a drill press and it came out nice, but the Dremel was much easier.

Matej
12-02-2011, 06:45 PM
After slotting my mounts, I used these tab washers that normally come with those silly camber kits. They work great for keeping the bolts in place in the widened holes.

http://www.ingallseng.com/images/P/3541-5.jpg

Lukasss
12-02-2011, 07:16 PM
Shit. I like that idea^

Gonna pick some up tomorrow lol

Tempo
12-02-2011, 07:57 PM
noob question but, Drilling the bottom hole on the front coils is the only way to get -5 camber up front? There isn't a kit out there i can buy?

Enna
12-02-2011, 08:24 PM
You drill the top hole in the lower mount, not the bottom hole. Easier and cheaper than trying to get custom adjustable LCA's for camber.

Pandapants
12-02-2011, 08:46 PM
I do have adjustable FLCA's now, but was told that would do shit for me.

Since you have them, why don't you play with the lengths and see if they give you the results youre looking for before you go hacking up your coilovers.

pinkarrowsnow
12-02-2011, 09:21 PM
the longer the LCA the more camber gets added. Thats how all the pro drift cars get crazy camber up front lots of LCA adjustment.

MeanS14
12-02-2011, 09:55 PM
Someone correct me if im wrong but wont extending the flca's just move the bottom of the wheel out and do nothing for his fender clearance issue? I guess extending them essentially does increase the camber but I dont think it will help him at all

fatduece
12-02-2011, 10:36 PM
Pretty sure its been answered before, but I cant find it. Im wondering what you guys are using to get that crazy camber in front? Im at -3* right now with PBM first gen coils and camber plates maxxed out, and im trying to get to about -5* to -6*. I do not want to run a smaller bolt as a fear of it backing out some how. I do have adjustable FLCA's now, but was told that would do shit for me. Is my only option to notch the camber plates?
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k51/hargraves86/IMAG0406.jpg
Weird...I can get -5.5 with my buddyclub coils without notching. I also don't have camber plates, but yea I guess you have to do some notching.

ILoveMyRHS13
12-02-2011, 11:18 PM
At least you don't own an S13. I have my PBM's maxed out at 2.2*. Luckily I have S14 LCAs to put on. Shooting for 5-6* haha.

Lukasss
12-03-2011, 12:20 AM
When you extend the FLCA, it pushes the entire wheel out further too.

Correct me if I'm wrong ?

Matej
12-03-2011, 12:28 AM
Shit. I like that idea^

Gonna pick some up tomorrow lol
This place sells just the washers in pairs:
3541-5 - Replacement 12mm Fastcam Washers - Ingalls Engineering Co., Inc. (http://www.ingallseng.com/3541-5-replacement-12mm-fastcam-washers.html)

Lukasss
12-03-2011, 12:52 AM
These place sells just the washers in pairs:
3541-5 - Replacement 12mm Fastcam Washers - Ingalls Engineering Co., Inc. (http://www.ingallseng.com/3541-5-replacement-12mm-fastcam-washers.html)

Ah glorious.
Thank you sir.

Om1kron
12-03-2011, 12:59 AM
your camber plates look like this already right?

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/1795/photocio.jpg

Brian04
12-03-2011, 01:38 AM
Weird, i keep hearing people talk about drilling a slot in the top hole of the bracket of their front coils, but both my Silkroad RM/A8 sets come with the slot already there.... guess it just depends on which model coil you have :l101:

lflkajfj12123
12-03-2011, 01:45 AM
request for thread title to be changed to crank dat

Dominic Axelson
12-03-2011, 01:45 AM
^ word. My fortune auto coils have it...

Om1kron
12-03-2011, 02:29 AM
request for thread title to be changed to crank dat

lol

Y3dlY9cye84

XFuzionX
12-03-2011, 02:32 AM
request for thread title to be changed to crank dat

This^

When I was running crazy camber I just slotted the coil mount like everyone said
http://i561.photobucket.com/albums/ss54/TK3791/securedownload4-Copy.jpg

90240sx07
12-03-2011, 04:00 AM
so if you slot it is it possible to run lets say -2 for daily and like -5 for a drift day?

az_240
12-03-2011, 04:21 AM
I'm no expert but doesnt slotting the coils top hole for more camber mess with (lowers it?) kingpin inclination angle?

Assuming he is running near stock caster wouldn't it be better to extend the FLCAs for a wider track/more neg camber while maintaining the stock knuckle to coil mount configuration?

I'm just going off what I see here
The Ultimate Handling Guide Part 8: Understanding Your Caster, King Pin Inclination and Scrub (http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_articles/articletype/articleview/articleid/1982/pageid/3201/the-ultimate-handling-guide-part-8-understanding-your-caster-king-pin-inclination-and-scrub.aspx)

I guess if all you guys want is more neg camber for the look it works

Teh Luckinator
12-03-2011, 04:23 AM
does anyone have a picture of their slotted holes? at first i was gonna slot it like... 2 holes big, but then i started looking at 326power coilovers, and that shit is nuts. was gonna do this, and then run like a 25mm spacer or something to clear the coilover. thoughts?

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/393720_948730479468_11705001_41520926_1374404927_n .jpg

and here are 326power ones, they're already offset:

http://www.326power.co.jp/pic-labo/llimg/P1010091.jpg

how much camber are you dudes running after slotting it?

maybe i'll just drill another hole instead of slotting.

nathanong87
12-03-2011, 04:29 AM
request for thread title to be changed to crank dat

Crank dat camber soulja boy

When my coils looked like omnikrons pic my stance gr+ were at -5.5 before alignment

Om1kron
12-03-2011, 04:59 AM
Crank dat camber soulja boy

When my coils looked like omnikrons pic my stance gr+ were at -5.5 before alignment

that's actually soaps pic.

lflkajfj12123
12-03-2011, 05:16 AM
I'm no expert but doesnt slotting the coils top hole for more camber mess with (lowers it?) kingpin inclination angle?

Assuming he is running near stock caster wouldn't it be better to extend the FLCAs for a wider track/more neg camber while maintaining the stock knuckle to coil mount configuration?

I'm just going off what I see here
The Ultimate Handling Guide Part 8: Understanding Your Caster, King Pin Inclination and Scrub (http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_articles/articletype/articleview/articleid/1982/pageid/3201/the-ultimate-handling-guide-part-8-understanding-your-caster-king-pin-inclination-and-scrub.aspx)

I guess if all you guys want is more neg camber for the look it works

ugh god

:picardfp:

az_240
12-03-2011, 05:24 AM
^problem? Am I missing something?

Lukasss
12-03-2011, 10:18 AM
Just the fact that no fucks are supposed to be given.

icedsole
12-03-2011, 11:31 AM
yo friz ill post a pic of mine a bit in a little bit. my top holes are slotted a lot.

my camber plates are dead center/a little positive and i have about -9 right now
i think.

thefro526
12-03-2011, 11:37 AM
If you're going to slot the top bolt hole on your coil yourself, I'd suggest you do it on a mill. It'll be really easy to keep the slots straight and true compared to a dremel or something similar.

snoops14
12-03-2011, 11:49 AM
can anyone post a picture of their coilovers slotted to get an idea?

edmorl
12-03-2011, 12:37 PM
how are you guys getting so much with the PBM coilovers ?

I have maxed negative with my camber plates on an s13 (with stock s13 flca) and all I can get is -1 upfront

az_240
12-03-2011, 12:37 PM
Just the fact that no fucks are supposed to be given.

Sounded like OP was trying to avoid negative handling effects. Wasn't sure if this was a form over function thread or not...

I do have adjustable FLCA's now, but was told that would do shit for me.

He's got adjustable LCAs....Lots of racecars lengthen LCAs for better track and more neg camber with good results. Why not just do this?

pacotaco345
12-03-2011, 01:58 PM
He's got adjustable LCAs....Lots of racecars lengthen LCAs for better track and more neg camber with good results. Why not just do this?

Look at the first picture, he needs to move the top of the tire in, not the bottom of the tire out. Besides 2* is plenty of camber for handling benefits.

fckillerbee
12-03-2011, 03:07 PM
Look at the first picture, he needs to move the top of the tire in, not the bottom of the tire out. Besides 2* is plenty of camber for handling benefits.


if you move the bottom out, it will bring in the top. it doesn't pivot at the top of the wheel.


fyi...LCA's can adjust camber.

Lukasss
12-03-2011, 03:43 PM
The hole is extended to an inch across.

It's not pretty but it's even all around and gets me up to 8* if I desire.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7015/6449090287_92ba92a7a2.jpg

Currently at this
18x9 et-5

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7025/6449124889_58dfabe70d.jpg

thefro526
12-03-2011, 04:07 PM
The hole is extended to an inch across.

It's not pretty but it's even all around and gets me up to 8* if I desire.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7015/6449090287_92ba92a7a2.jpg



I'm assuming that your mount is flipped?

(Just asking to avoid confusion, since normally people slot the opposite hole.)

jet$daily
12-03-2011, 04:23 PM
I'm assuming that your mount is flipped?

(Just asking to avoid confusion, since normally people slot the opposite hole.)

yeah wtf is this. that does not look right

articdragon192
12-03-2011, 04:27 PM
if you move the bottom out, it will bring in the top. it doesn't pivot at the top of the wheel.


fyi...LCA's can adjust camber.

In my experience with working with Bimmers, where camber adjustment is at the LCA, adding camber through the LCA does minimal for tire and wheel clearances. Since you're basically pushing the LCA out, pushing the lower part of the wheel out, instead of bringing the top of the wheel in. Both do the same thing with regards to adjusting camber, but both do not do the same with regards to fitting wheels/tires within the fender.

thefro526
12-03-2011, 04:48 PM
yeah wtf is this. that does not look right

Pretty sure he runs his mounts upside down. Not all that uncommon, bros have been doing it for years to get another inch or so of lowering. Just asked to add clarification.

Lukasss
12-03-2011, 04:53 PM
Yeah it's flipped.
Common thing....

Should have clarified.

Teh Luckinator
12-03-2011, 04:53 PM
The hole is extended to an inch across.

It's not pretty but it's even all around and gets me up to 8* if I desire.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7015/6449090287_92ba92a7a2.jpg


either i don't know how long an inch is, or you're talking about something else. haha. i was assuming you meant you made the top hole an inch. but damn, maybe i shouldn't slot the shit out of it, and just barely open it up.

Lukasss
12-03-2011, 05:02 PM
It's just under and inch across.

Since the mount is flipped, the bottom hole is now the top hole.
That is the hole I widened. Since its the top when on the coilover.

MeanS14
12-04-2011, 09:37 AM
In my experience with working with Bimmers, where camber adjustment is at the LCA, adding camber through the LCA does minimal for tire and wheel clearances. Since you're basically pushing the LCA out, pushing the lower part of the wheel out, instead of bringing the top of the wheel in. Both do the same thing with regards to adjusting camber, but both do not do the same with regards to fitting wheels/tires within the fender.


THIS!!! Its the same for the rear suspension on my 350z. Ive had my spl RLCA adjusted all the way out and it did nothing for the fender to wheel clearance on the top part of the wheel

frizzle
12-04-2011, 05:15 PM
Done!!! 18x10-44 225/35/18
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k51/hargraves86/IMG_20111204_164633.jpg
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k51/hargraves86/IMG_20111204_164612.jpg

Lukasss
12-04-2011, 05:16 PM
I love you.

towlie
12-04-2011, 05:22 PM
Holy FUCK that is awesome. got any pics of what your extended hole looks like? have the same coils

recently called PBM about their LCA's, when asked how much camber i could run with them "more than anyone can use"

also their new released coils are offset holes

http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_files/public/1308809126_2_FT8306_dsc02535.jpg


also also: is slotting coils considered safe for daily driving? been considering doing this for some time now.

Teh Luckinator
12-04-2011, 05:39 PM
oh my god yes.

pictures of slot please, i wanna copy. aftermarket flcas?

YEAH I SAID I WANNA COPY.

Irresistible
12-04-2011, 05:46 PM
Holy shit.

yomisiu
12-04-2011, 05:47 PM
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhvl14PLwA1qzr075.jpg
:bowrofl::bowrofl:


... and what 'Teh Luckinator' said.

XFuzionX
12-04-2011, 05:48 PM
Looks good frizzle

Bushido
12-04-2011, 05:50 PM
so did you slot the brackets?

frizzle
12-04-2011, 05:51 PM
Sorry bros I didnt snap any pics of the slotted holes, but they look like the green ones above just slotted more . Lol!

Lukasss
12-04-2011, 06:25 PM
You dont have to do much to get like that like my picture up there.

Just make the hole longer toward the strut..its really easy.
Like i said, from one side to the other side of the slotted hole is about an inch.
and i can go to about -8 degrees or so.

Looks good though sir. need to get that bumper back on to see what i looks like.

also also: is slotting coils considered safe for daily driving? been considering doing this for some time now.

I drive my car A LOT, and it hasnt given me a problem in the last month or so at all.
I even double checked to see if it moved or anything and its still solid.

!Zar!
12-04-2011, 06:58 PM
I would just drill another hole instead of slotting.

Irresistible
12-04-2011, 07:00 PM
Do you have to have them evenly slotted on each bracket?

EhrikETFG
12-04-2011, 07:00 PM
I would just drill another hole instead of slotting.
I would just drill another hole instead of slotting.

Lukasss
12-04-2011, 07:05 PM
Drilling another hole would make sense, but only if you were going for a shitload of - camber. itd have to be far from the original hole so it didnt overlap, and the farther back, obviously the more camber.

An entire inch wide is only about half another bolt length.

TheRealSy90
12-04-2011, 07:13 PM
Mine are slotted and i've been dailying my car for a while now, no problems. I'm thinking about slotting it as far as possible just to see the outcome.

EhrikETFG
12-04-2011, 07:33 PM
Mine are slotted and i've been dailying my car for a while now, no problems. I'm thinking about slotting it as far as possible just to see the outcome.

id probably go and get new brackets from bc/psm/fortune/etc.

Teh Luckinator
12-04-2011, 07:50 PM
I would just drill another hole instead of slotting.

that's what i'm starting to think now haha.

az_240
12-05-2011, 01:07 AM
I would just drill another hole instead of slotting.

You people make me sick:wiggle:

Sirius
12-05-2011, 01:36 AM
does that red s13 have any steering issues or mods for its insane camber up front?

az_240
12-05-2011, 01:45 AM
^more than likely rides like shit and eats tires quick.

Teh Luckinator
12-05-2011, 03:25 AM
and looks pretty cool.

dreaMervaj
12-05-2011, 01:54 PM
your camber plates look like this already right?

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/1795/photocio.jpg

Noob question but is this camber set at super negative or positive?

!Zar!
12-05-2011, 02:02 PM
Max negative camber.

ezza
12-05-2011, 02:08 PM
how much camber is good for skidding?

!Zar!
12-05-2011, 02:11 PM
Depends on ride height and caster settings.


For the front you basically want enough camber so that your front leading tire has the full face touching the ground at lock.

In the rear normally -1.5*

ezza
12-05-2011, 02:13 PM
thanks, i think im going to have slight rubbing issues upfront but my camber plates are maxed out, il see how it is when i finally get it on the road

OBEEWON
12-05-2011, 02:25 PM
Slotting the bracket also helps with the wheel angle at full lock. instead of driving on your sidewall you get good contact patch action.

Its almost like trying to lick a girls nipple while you are both laying on your back vs. licking it while on your side. Everyone will be a lot happier once you figure it out.

dreaMervaj
12-05-2011, 02:28 PM
I put 255 40's on my MB Battles and it's rubbing in the front. Would adjust the camber fix this? Or would it make things worst?

I'm also debating if a 5mm slip on make it clear....

Help out camber gurus.

OBEEWON
12-05-2011, 02:35 PM
What is it rubbing?

The solution so far is NEI.

!Zar!
12-05-2011, 02:36 PM
Rubbing where?

dreaMervaj
12-05-2011, 02:54 PM
Rubbing where?

I think it's the coilovers!?

Sorry I didn't clarify.

MidwestMyriad
12-05-2011, 02:55 PM
Max negative camber.

:rimshot:.

Lukasss
12-05-2011, 03:55 PM
I put 255 40's on my MB Battles and it's rubbing in the front. Would adjust the camber fix this? Or would it make things worst?

I'm also debating if a 5mm slip on make it clear....

Help out camber gurus.

Why are you running such a large tire in the front?

dreaMervaj
12-05-2011, 05:25 PM
Why are you running such a large tire in the front?

Got them for free and thought they would fit!? Would a 245/235 clear the coilover?

Dustxking
12-05-2011, 05:32 PM
try more of a 225/40 or if its a 17 try a 215/45.

dreaMervaj
12-05-2011, 07:13 PM
Would a set of 5mm slip on spacers be enough to clear my coils? Dammit.

And 215/225? That seems too narror compare to the 255's in the rear.

Irresistible
12-05-2011, 07:25 PM
Would a set of 5mm slip on spacers be enough to clear my coils? Dammit.

And 215/225? That seems too narror compare to the 255's in the rear.

No. A 1mm spacer would be enough.

Honestly, we can't tell you because we don't know how much it rubs. And why are you running such wide tires? Try 215/45 F 235/40 R. Spacers may fix your coil rubbing issue, but cause you to rub your fenders.

dreaMervaj
12-05-2011, 07:27 PM
No. A 1mm spacer would be enough.

Honestly, we can't tell you because we don't know how much it rubs. And why are you running such wide tires? Try 215/45 F 235/40 R. Spacers may fix your coil rubbing issue, but cause you to rub your fenders.

Are 255's super wide for everyone here? Does everyone run 215 on 9.5's and 10's? I wanted some traction in the rear and I got the other pair for free so I said wth why not.

Yeah I'm gonna go find a 1mm spacer to try. Thanks.

GabeS14
12-05-2011, 07:32 PM
zilvia is turning into honda wanna be herrafrush by excessive camber lol

ridesnowx4
12-05-2011, 08:11 PM
Done!!! 18x10-44 225/35/18
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k51/hargraves86/IMG_20111204_164633.jpg
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k51/hargraves86/IMG_20111204_164612.jpg

Lookin gangster Raymond!!

ridesnowx4
12-05-2011, 08:15 PM
zilvia is turning into honda wanna be herrafrush by excessive camber lol

Maxing out your negative camber on a drift car is important so when you're at full lock you can utilize your tire's maximum contact patch. This is of course achieved with a huge amount of negative camber and properly modified steering components. IE. Knuckles, FLCA's tie rods ect... to avoid affecting your roll center and ackerman line.

See other thread related to this

but yes, maxing out negative camber for a "street" car is just for looks

95KA-Turbo
12-05-2011, 08:57 PM
Are 255's super wide for everyone here? Does everyone run 215 on 9.5's and 10's? I wanted some traction in the rear and I got the other pair for free so I said wth why not.

Yeah I'm gonna go find a 1mm spacer to try. Thanks.

A 3mm spacer will prob fix your problems, if you were able to drive before you noticed it rubbed it has to be barely rubbing. Go to pep boys and pick up a little 3mm spacer set for like 10 bucks and try it out.

az_240
12-05-2011, 09:19 PM
Maxing out your negative camber on a drift car is important so when you're at full lock you can utilize your tire's maximum contact patch.

To an extent... there is a point where too much neg camber is a bad thing on the track.

A 3mm spacer will prob fix your problems, if you were able to drive before you noticed it rubbed it has to be barely rubbing. Go to pep boys and pick up a little 3mm spacer set for like 10 bucks and try it out.

Those spacers kinda suck but I guess it works for a temporary fix. I tried some years ago and even after trying to get them perfectly centered on the hub it just wasn't enough... still got a slight vibration. Sold em and got hubcentric style with correct hub bore from ebay and the vibration went away.

frizzle
12-05-2011, 09:27 PM
Before you guys get you panties in bunch...... I did this bcuz I had to not to be cool. The wheels did not sell quickly enough so I had to use them(Kinda).The only purpose for this much camber is to just fit the wheels and I was told I couldnt do it. I can easily put on my pair of TE's and take camber out and drive/drift the car as necessary. Relax bros!!!!

Matej
12-05-2011, 09:30 PM
On the contrary, that is the only cool reason to do it. :)

95KA-Turbo
12-05-2011, 11:42 PM
To an extent... there is a point where too much neg camber is a bad thing on the track.



Those spacers kinda suck but I guess it works for a temporary fix. I tried some years ago and even after trying to get them perfectly centered on the hub it just wasn't enough... still got a slight vibration. Sold em and got hubcentric style with correct hub bore from ebay and the vibration went away.

Yeah, I mean grab those, figure out what sort of spacing is needed then order some nice ones that fit right over the hub.

lflkajfj12123
12-06-2011, 05:19 AM
Before you guys get you panties in bunch...... I did this bcuz I had to not to be cool. The wheels did not sell quickly enough so I had to use them(Kinda).The only purpose for this much camber is to just fit the wheels and I was told I couldnt do it. I can easily put on my pair of TE's and take camber out and drive/drift the car as necessary. Relax bros!!!!

yeah but it looks cool so its win win

Lukasss
12-06-2011, 06:18 AM
yeah but it looks cool so its win win

Touche'...

Teh Luckinator
12-15-2011, 02:15 AM
yo friz ill post a pic of mine a bit in a little bit. my top holes are slotted a lot.

my camber plates are dead center/a little positive and i have about -9 right now
i think.

still waiting for this mayneee

Dustxking
04-25-2012, 10:14 PM
Bumping old thread kinda want to see some more pictures if anyone has any?!

frizzle
04-25-2012, 10:55 PM
more pics of what exactly?

shaggy sr
04-25-2012, 10:56 PM
Please post actual pics. I wanna c

Om1kron
04-25-2012, 11:12 PM
how about a video???

zooopreme
04-26-2012, 11:35 AM
how about a video???

I'm with this guy!

prowess
04-26-2012, 11:50 AM
i got a video:

T7JNZboSuRk

hard as fuck.

STL240SXDRIFT
04-26-2012, 12:25 PM
more pics of what exactly?

Pics of every angle of your car...pls or maybe a pics of each wheel setup you have had.

Do you have a build thread?

Dustxking
04-26-2012, 12:35 PM
Will this mean I need new aligmentt I have my alignment how I want it just want more camber.

OBEEWON
04-26-2012, 12:45 PM
yes. Change one change all.

Frizzle at some point in life I'm going to give you some dap in person.

JKL1031
04-26-2012, 07:24 PM
http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/DAP.gif

Lukasss
04-26-2012, 07:58 PM
Pics of every angle of your car...pls or maybe a pics of each wheel setup you have had.

Do you have a build thread?

I dont see how anyone would need more pics than whats in here.
You shim it to YOUR desired -camber spec...

pretty self explanatory.

Johny5
04-27-2012, 08:19 AM
Why is everyone slotting their coilovers? All you have to do is convert your OE FLCA to adjustable lengths or add 1-1.5"ish to it in the center by channeling and work the rest out up top. My car is at ~-5.8 front and my upper plates are centered and my coilovers are not slotted.

93_ProjectS13
04-27-2012, 08:42 AM
BA-BAAMMM Done!
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa97/weems1988/IMAG0085.jpg

Jonathong
04-27-2012, 08:50 AM
Anyone ever use those camber bolts with their coils? Do they actually work well?

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KA-Life86
04-27-2012, 09:43 AM
i got a video:

T7JNZboSuRk

hard as fuck.

Holy ass, that shit gave me chill bumps, especially the tunnel shot :bowdown:

cmg
04-27-2012, 10:32 AM
Why is everyone slotting their coilovers? All you have to do is convert your OE FLCA to adjustable lengths or add 1-1.5"ish to it in the center by channeling and work the rest out up top. My car is at ~-5.8 front and my upper plates are centered and my coilovers are not slotted.

The requires more work and fabrication. Also a welder. Not everyone has those means available. Slotting the coilover can be done with a drill. Come on man. Use your head for something besides growing hair on. (assuming your not bald haha)

BrokenWhite240
04-27-2012, 12:22 PM
i got a video:

T7JNZboSuRk

hard as fuck.

I think I just found love <3

Om1kron
04-28-2012, 12:44 AM
Why is everyone slotting their coilovers? All you have to do is convert your OE FLCA to adjustable lengths or add 1-1.5"ish to it in the center by channeling and work the rest out up top. My car is at ~-5.8 front and my upper plates are centered and my coilovers are not slotted.

Original Equipment Front Lower Control Arms. I can has how to?

TheClutchKicker
04-28-2012, 01:45 AM
Looks like its time to mod mines before mounting.

LockOn!
04-28-2012, 02:00 PM
Hey guys, I just got word that my PBM comps are coming in. Does anyone know how much camber is built into the offset lower mount? Would it still be a good idea to drill them out for that extra bump?

Also isn't it possible to over do it and cause your tire to rub the coilover? Just curious because it looks like some people are really going to town on their mounts lol.

Om1kron
04-28-2012, 03:22 PM
Hey guys, I just got word that my PBM comps are coming in. Does anyone know how much camber is built into the offset lower mount? Would it still be a good idea to drill them out for that extra bump?

Also isn't it possible to over do it and cause your tire to rub the coilover? Just curious because it looks like some people are really going to town on their mounts lol.

you know the guy who works for PBM named Dan, he'll normally answer any question you have about their suspension pieces in the SUSPENSION THREAD HIGHLIGHTING THEIR PRODUCTS, WHY ARE YOU ASKING HERE?

LockOn!
04-28-2012, 03:46 PM
Sorry, just seemed to go with the topic and it didn't say on their website. Thanks.

booey13
04-28-2012, 07:33 PM
Original Equipment Front Lower Control Arms. I can has how to?

Forget where I found these pics at. On a blog or something. Credit to the owner.

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj39/booey13/d296a6f4.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj39/booey13/21424584.jpg

cmg
04-28-2012, 11:41 PM
Thats pretty rad. I have a set of traction rods that Ill never use. I wonder if I could cut the ends off of those and make this? I guess tom will be a test fitting day.

1on1
04-29-2012, 11:59 AM
BA-BAAMMM Done!

Not sure if you plan on being a street sweeper, but you should have slotted the bottom so you can flip the bracket to acquire an additional inch or so to be low.

TheClutchKicker
04-29-2012, 12:20 PM
Not sure if you plan on being a street sweeper, but you should have slotted the bottom so you can flip the bracket to acquire an additional inch or so to be low.


Your on point my friend.

qwerth
04-29-2012, 12:36 PM
Quick Nooob Questions

So Flipping these will probably give me around an inch of moar low?

But how much do i need to slot the lower hole(new top hole)

tryna get -6 -8 ish

Edit: Forgot to the pic in it
http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad87/qwerth/wordpress/DSC_4568.jpg

1on1
04-29-2012, 12:41 PM
your camber plates look like this already right?

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/1795/photocio.jpg

Basically made it look like this

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp99/DMaxUSA/Products/DriftSpecCoiloverBracket.jpg

Quick Nooob Questions

So Flipping these will probably give me around an inch of moar low?

But how much do i need to slot the lower hole(new top hole)

tryna get -6 -8 ish

the above photos will answer your question :D (too lazy to explain).

JKL1031
04-29-2012, 01:17 PM
Quick Nooob Questions

So Flipping these will probably give me around an inch of moar low?

But how much do i need to slot the lower hole(new top hole)

tryna get -6 -8 ish

Edit: Forgot to the pic in it


Ive seen ur whip. why do u need -6,-8 camber?

Lukasss
04-29-2012, 01:29 PM
That's far to excess for the wheels you are running.

Jonnie Fraz
04-29-2012, 03:10 PM
I have done a couple sets of these...
https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSbh_WtedqbJW-d3exf8EMrFuA7PZ-FraP6mtx_dEfHXzIDrAicow
These are Battle Version weld in adjusters. Alex does not offer the kits on his site any more, but the last time I asked him about them he said he still has parts for them.

qwerth
04-29-2012, 09:39 PM
with these wheels no...

Rampage
02-24-2014, 09:20 PM
This place sells just the washers in pairs:
3541-5 - Replacement 12mm Fastcam Washers - Ingalls Engineering Co., Inc. (http://www.ingallseng.com/3541-5-replacement-12mm-fastcam-washers.html)

I know I'm bumping an old thread but I'd rather do this than make a new one. Anyways, I think I'm going to notch my coils as opposed to drill separate holes and was wondering if anyone actually had any feedback from these actual washers? Or if anyone else is using tabs, could you point me in the right direction? Trying to get things done right first time, thanks

qwerth
02-25-2014, 12:11 AM
I know I'm bumping an old thread but I'd rather do this than make a new one. Anyways, I think I'm going to notch my coils as opposed to drill separate holes and was wondering if anyone actually had any feedback from these actual washers? Or if anyone else is using tabs, could you point me in the right direction? Trying to get things done right first time, thanks

i got them a week ago but haven't put them on yet, i've been having the knuckle move every couple months and having to retighten that bolt on the lower mount. I'm sure these will help me with that

MrFairlady
03-19-2014, 08:10 PM
I have done a couple sets of these...
https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSbh_WtedqbJW-d3exf8EMrFuA7PZ-FraP6mtx_dEfHXzIDrAicow
These are Battle Version weld in adjusters. Alex does not offer the kits on his site any more, but the last time I asked him about them he said he still has parts for them.

2 questions from the dead.
For you guys that have done ^ and added a heim to the lca, or own adjustable lower control arms - what happens to the angle of the traction rod and sway bar end link insert when you extend the control arm at the-bolt, instead of after the 3 bolt holes. Like the 555 arms. How does it even line up?

Last question. What is the width or correct heim with misalignment inserts to make these?

da_crew10
03-19-2014, 09:29 PM
^^ I been wondering the same thing, Blattle version doesn't offer that weld on kit anymore I emailed them, I also asked the same question about the correct size heil joint and misalignment spacers for an s14 and got no response.

ill.
03-24-2014, 05:11 PM
http://csgarage.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/555-Plain-LCA.jpg

As you can see from this photo here, on 555 and similar OEM extended arms, the extensions are put in on the outside of the sway/traction holes.

MrFairlady
03-24-2014, 05:25 PM
http://csgarage.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/555-Plain-LCA.jpg

As you can see from this photo here, on 555 and similar OEM extended arms, the extensions are put in on the outside of the sway/traction holes.

Right. I ment to say they(555 and all others like PBM) extend it past the part in question - so I wonder how this could be done with a heim in the inside and keep any spec of oem geometry together (aside from Maximus ass camber)

chaka_flocka
03-25-2014, 12:34 PM
Is anyone running more then -10 in the rear and how. I cant seem to with out the axels binding up.

datboibrad
03-25-2014, 02:15 PM
Is anyone running more then -10 in the rear and how. I cant seem to with out the axels binding up.

Once it gets to that point you have to shorten the axle or have shorter one made. Powered by max had to do that for a 370z.

chaka_flocka
03-27-2014, 08:33 AM
Once it gets to that point you have to shorten the axle or have shorter one made. Powered by max had to do that for a 370z. i know this is a stupid question but is there any shorter ones that will just bolt on? without having to get custom ones made.

datboibrad
03-27-2014, 09:18 AM
i know this is a stupid question but is there any shorter ones that will just bolt on? without having to get custom ones made.

i havent found any and most likely not

rbs14kouki
03-27-2014, 08:00 PM
Right. I ment to say they(555 and all others like PBM) extend it past the part in question - so I wonder how this could be done with a heim in the inside and keep any spec of oem geometry together (aside from Maximus ass camber)


If you use a heim joint ! Just redrill your swaybar / tension rod holes on the flca

Thats what i would do !? Is it ok i dont know for sure !

Irresistible
03-28-2014, 11:32 PM
So any of you s14 dudes running Stance coilovers and 25mm extended stock arms? I was wondering what the camber is at with the camber plates maxed...

Just put my stuff on, but the car is still in the air and I wanna know how much camber I should be expecting degree-wise.

zbarsuglia
03-31-2014, 03:12 AM
So any of you s14 dudes running Stance coilovers and 25mm extended stock arms? I was wondering what the camber is at with the camber plates maxed...

Just put my stuff on, but the car is still in the air and I wanna know how much camber I should be expecting degree-wise.

My friend with stance gr+ 25mm extended Lcas an maxed plates was at -6 iirc

Irresistible
03-31-2014, 10:53 PM
My friend with stance gr+ 25mm extended Lcas an maxed plates was at -6 iirc

Okay sweet, so I can still add more camber without being too overly ridiculous,,, Which for most of you I already am.

jay70
04-01-2014, 01:35 AM
Okay sweet, so I can still add more camber without being too overly ridiculous,,, Which for most of you I already am.

oh man you're a badass hey

Irresistible
04-01-2014, 12:49 PM
oh man you're a badass hey


You're a fuckin idiot. Most people consider anything over -3 stupid and impractical.

Nissansota240
04-01-2014, 12:54 PM
So any of you s14 dudes running Stance coilovers and 25mm extended stock arms? I was wondering what the camber is at with the camber plates maxed...

Just put my stuff on, but the car is still in the air and I wanna know how much camber I should be expecting degree-wise.

25 mm lca extension, stance GR+ coils, camber at 6 or so, not maxed out, but getting close
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc362/Nissansota/Zenki%20Drift%20Build/IMG_20130702_113351_zps070c3605.jpg (http://s1208.photobucket.com/user/Nissansota/media/Zenki%20Drift%20Build/IMG_20130702_113351_zps070c3605.jpg.html)

jay70
04-01-2014, 05:38 PM
You're a fuckin idiot. Most people consider anything over -3 stupid and impractical.

lol ok have you even read this thread? reading through some of your recent posts its pretty obvious you have no idea what you're doing

Irresistible
04-01-2014, 05:46 PM
lol ok have you even read this thread? reading through some of your recent posts its pretty obvious you have no idea what you're doing


You took the time to actually read through my recent posts... You really are a fucking idiot.

jay70
04-01-2014, 06:14 PM
haha how does that make me an idiot?

FaLKoN240
04-01-2014, 06:50 PM
You're the dillhole coming in trying to say how cool you are with excessive camber. I doubt you'll beat that shaka flocka guy or whatever. Who cares.

Irresistible
04-01-2014, 07:10 PM
You're the dillhole coming in trying to say how cool you are with excessive camber. I doubt you'll beat that shaka flocka guy or whatever. Who cares.


Actually if you read my post again I never said I was cool because of the excessive camber. I actually came in here to ask what to expect from the current combo of parts I have. In order to not have too much camber. I'm trying to avoid being excessive, actually. Apparently the reading comprehension on this forum has dropped drastically in the last few years.

FaLKoN240
04-01-2014, 07:20 PM
To be clear, I'm running -4.5* in the front of my car with a 18x9.5 +12 spaced out 25mm to -13. So you're definitely not addressing the right guy here.

After being told you could be at -6 camber so I can still add more camber without being too overly ridiculous... Which for most of you I already am.

I actually came in here to ask what to expect from the current combo of parts I have. In order to not have too much camber. I'm trying to avoid being excessive , actually. Apparently the reading comprehension on this forum has dropped drastically in the last few years.

None of your posts stated anything about trying to avoid being excessive, if anything they were statements saying the exact opposite.

It's not that anyone in here has reading comprehension issues, your posts were CLEARLY conflicting statements.

Irresistible
04-01-2014, 07:51 PM
It's not that anyone in here has reading comprehension issues, your posts were CLEARLY conflicting statements.


Whatever lol, I'm not getting into a stupid argument over this, I'll admit defeat and admit that I prolly worded my posts poorly. Point is, I'm not tryna brag about how much camber I have or whatever, cus my car is still on fuckin jack stands. And I couldn't care less if someone has more camber than me, my goal isn't to be "most cambered" or some stupid crap, I just want my wheels to fit and look good lol.

If you don't mind me asking, what size tire are you running and are you on stock metal? PM me if you want so we don't clutter this thread.

I apologize if it seemed like I was trying to prove how big my dick is or something. My bad.

jay70
04-01-2014, 07:55 PM
haha it's cool bro I forgive you, just try not to be such a douche anymore

FaLKoN240
04-01-2014, 09:00 PM
Whatever lol, I'm not getting into a stupid argument over this, I'll admit defeat and admit that I prolly worded my posts poorly. Point is, I'm not tryna brag about how much camber I have or whatever, cus my car is still on fuckin jack stands. And I couldn't care less if someone has more camber than me, my goal isn't to be "most cambered" or some stupid crap, I just want my wheels to fit and look good lol.

If you don't mind me asking, what size tire are you running and are you on stock metal? PM me if you want so we don't clutter this thread.

I apologize if it seemed like I was trying to prove how big my dick is or something. My bad.

Mods for my set up are
-4.5* camberstock caster setting

PBM coils with the spindle mount set up for max camber.
SPL tension rod
Stock LCA
Stock front fenders rolled/slightly pulled
225/40/18 18x9.5 -13

Irresistible
04-01-2014, 10:10 PM
haha it's cool bro I forgive you, just try not to be such a douche anymore



Mods for my set up are

-4.5* camberstock caster setting



PBM coils with the spindle mount set up for max camber.

SPL tension rod

Stock LCA

Stock front fenders rolled/slightly pulled

225/40/18 18x9.5 -13


Thanks, so what I'm trying to accomplish is totally possible. And again, my bad for coming off as an asshole or as if I was trying to show off how much camber I have, definitely not my intentions.