View Full Version : best swap for S14
boostman747
11-09-2011, 09:19 PM
i was wondering and i dont know witch one i should go with i have been think about doing a swap either a 2jz gte vvti or a rb25 im trying to get good power and and easier to make work in the car
Sileighty_85
11-09-2011, 09:29 PM
Its your Car, Build it the way you want.
boostman747
11-09-2011, 09:31 PM
yes i under stand but im just really not sure what would be a better motor to go with
Dolph_KYAS13
11-09-2011, 09:33 PM
if you want it easier to work on the car. id go with the 25.
A.) its already from a nissna
B.) there is only one turbo
C.) it isnt vvti.
but anything is possible just do your homework.
go LS like everyone eles.
240zach
11-09-2011, 09:51 PM
do you not want an sr?
slydin240sx
11-09-2011, 10:00 PM
Do not go LS! Fuck the LS S CHASSIS BULLSHIT!
I'd say RB25 or 26. If you can afford it. If not swap the typical SR motor in it.
i was being sarcastic btw.
JSimpson
11-09-2011, 10:10 PM
S14 SR20DET. Cheap, easy, and the lightest motor by far. Plus they make damn good power for a good price and are very reliable.
rbs14kouki
11-09-2011, 10:11 PM
1/1.5/2JZ > RB26/25
JZ (twin or single turbo)You wont have trouble with the steering shaft in the way of you downpipe , 2.5l or 3l , more stroke on the jz engine = biger torque number
Jz bottom end is bettre , ok flowing head ... Rb bottom end weak with oil drive isue , rb26 head flow +++more ... I saw test on flow beach on both heads
I had 2 rb26 in my s14 and they blew caused by bad tuning !!! They can be good engine but you need to open them up and put big money (ex: crank upgrade and oil pump upgrade)
JZ for you in the two choice you gave !
Flushed_S14
11-09-2011, 10:15 PM
Go RB 25...Can't go wrong. Just make sure you do it right or don't do it....oh and make sure your ready to spend cash lol...
GSXRJJordan
11-09-2011, 10:37 PM
if you want it easier to work on the car. id go with the 25.
A.) its already from a nissna
B.) there is only one turbo
C.) it isnt vvti.
but anything is possible just do your homework.
RB25's are great, and we have a RB25 mount set/driveshaft here if someone needs one, but they do have VTC :) Not nearly as hard to tune around as VVTI, but still variable timing.
memphis180sx
11-09-2011, 10:39 PM
if u do go rb25 for the love of god go with syko mounts mcikinny is junk
EDacIouSX
11-09-2011, 11:04 PM
it might be more convenient going with a rb since is nissan. you will already have a lot of other nissan parts laying around in case you need something really dumb though that is a minor thing to worry about and probably not a great argument. RB26 is really rare to see in a s chasis so if you want to be a little bit more unique you can go that route. 2jz's are obviously great engines so this is really just a preference choice.
F20cS13
11-10-2011, 02:08 AM
Do not go LS! Fuck the LS S CHASSIS BULLSHIT! .
:werd:
F20c stroked out to a 2.4 with gt2860:duh:
illvialuver
11-10-2011, 02:44 AM
man, screw that build a 4 rotor na for it, shit will scream and be aweome. no pistons yo.
C-unit
11-10-2011, 03:42 AM
he's 19 and probably dreaming....
HPKMotorsports3
11-10-2011, 04:07 AM
Drop in a H22 and call it a day then swap your chassis to a EF
the40sondec
11-10-2011, 04:29 AM
man, screw that build a 4 rotor na for it, shit will scream and be aweome. no pistons yo.
^ agreed! i'd do it myself if i wasn't broke smdh. but i have a sr :facepalm: was in my s14 when i got it so i built t to see whats good. not upset but would've been happier with a 2j... all the parts in my sr to make 550ish would make 1000+ on a 2j. ehhh that will be my next swap :D
TheXFlames
11-10-2011, 04:56 AM
Just get a ka24e you cant go wrong with that... lol
240zach
11-10-2011, 04:57 AM
Go RB 25...Can't go wrong. Just make sure you do it right or don't do it....oh and make sure your ready to spend cash lol...
theres many ways you can go wrong. theres a reason that sr swaps are most common. easiest by far, it actually came in the car in japan, and easy accessibility to all the parts..you dont wanna be stuck with an rb25 or 26 thats missing one piece that no one has and if someone does its either expensive or jank.
jubee
11-10-2011, 05:19 AM
All joking aside if you wanna be diffrent you can go with a s2k motor.
just saying!!
the40sondec
11-10-2011, 05:36 AM
or a VQ out of a z or g35, and on the s2k tip, j32 with s2k trany. if you're into hondas and vtec... im is.
very different to have a j swap under the hood. might even be the first s chassis
usdm180sx
11-10-2011, 06:10 AM
You have a mind of your own, do your research, grab your balls and make a decision on your own. You don't need approval from anyone but yourself. That's my advice
240zach
11-10-2011, 01:25 PM
^^ that is very true. do whatever you think is best. and hey if you done like something just pull it sell it and buy another motor you want to try.
Tanuki
11-10-2011, 01:34 PM
put in a gallo 12.
2.5T_/<ouki
11-10-2011, 01:42 PM
he's 19 and probably dreaming....
lol! love his sn too :P
Didn't know 19yr olds were men :duh:
Zenki_516
11-10-2011, 01:59 PM
This is a dumb question. Go read on both motors, find threads on swaps, set a budget and make a decision. Why does someone else need to tell you what is better for YOU? :smash:
Cannonblaster
11-10-2011, 02:09 PM
put in a gallo 12.
ahahaahha fuck no put a GALLO 24
Tanuki
11-10-2011, 02:11 PM
ahahaahha fuck no put a GALLO 24
Everyone knows that the gallo 12 is a 12 cylinder while the 24 is a 2.4l 4 cylinder!
nissan240syan
11-10-2011, 02:25 PM
I asked this when i was 16 and bought my first 240 haha zilvia is ruthless you'll learn to love it. Anyways why not get some turbo experience and go KA-T ??? It wont break the bank as much as rb or jz will and you still get a torque monster that you can build upon. Good luck
J90lude
11-10-2011, 03:02 PM
ahahaahha fuck no put a GALLO 24
hahahaha didnt know pizza shops made motors
usdm180sx
11-10-2011, 03:31 PM
put in a gallo 12.
LOL it's either a gallo 16 or a gallo 24 don't you know??
F20cS13
11-10-2011, 07:22 PM
or a VQ out of a z or g35, and on the s2k tip, j32 with s2k trany. if you're into hondas and vtec... im is.
very different to have a j swap under the hood. might even be the first s chassis
shhhhhh, dont give away my secrets lol..This is the next step after the f20 :-)
Any whats with all the ball busters?
Whats wrong with dreaming?
We ALL at one point sat drolling over a car in a magzine. " Damn, one day Im gonna have that"
Take what you have and improve it. Your going to blow motors, ruin shit and most of all, spend money.
Start with an sr,ka and work from there.
im sure you can turbo a ka for next to nothing.
I know a USED s2000 motor and trans ALONE is hanging in the $4000-$5000+ range and thats with NOTHING done to it. No stroker, turbo etc.
What people never put on here is how expensive this shit really gets. ya a $4000 motor is just a motor without 90% of what it really needs.
boostman747
11-10-2011, 07:29 PM
well i have a big turbo built sr20 but i just want something new i have 2 of them one im parting out and one im selling as a hole swap i would like a rb there is no need to be rude and joke about things i was asking a question to see what peoples ideas are thanks for everyone that helped
F20cS13
11-10-2011, 07:41 PM
well i have a big turbo built sr20 but i just want something new i have 2 of them one im parting out and one im selling as a hole swap i would like a rb there is no need to be rude and joke about things i was asking a question to see what peoples ideas are thanks for everyone that helped
:werd:
Im all about being unique and doing off the beaten path. Do something different.Stray off the beaten path :2f2f:. Good luck with it :-)
jacobs13
11-10-2011, 07:42 PM
Aside from the hate of the ls, its a light, powerful and reliable motor. If you want a turboed motor id say rb25, to me they look better than 2js. And I see/ work on 2js at school, we have tons of them and i could care less for them. And for the comments on him being 19 and dreaming, just because someone is young doesnt mean they are stupid or poor. I know some young guys making more then most of the older guys on here.
F20cS13
11-10-2011, 09:03 PM
And for the comments on him being 19 and dreaming, just because someone is young doesnt mean they are stupid or poor. I know some young guys making more then most of the older guys on here.
19 year old in Vegas with 850whp evo.
(his own money)
x2 on your comment
Kingtal0n
11-11-2011, 08:17 AM
the problem with RB series engines is that they are far more expensive and parts are harder to find than just about anything you can put into a 240sx. RB swaps are for people with money that just want to say that they have a skyline engine.
The 2jz-gte (NON vvti) wins hands down every single time for the most inexpensive reliable swap that is capable of 500 horsepower with OEM internals on a daily driver 25mpg basis. Nothing else comes close except the LSx series engines, which are a bit more expensive, and they lack the turbocharger aspect, but they are just as fun if not more fun to drive.
the sr20 is the cheapest most reliable option for about 300 horsepower daily driver aspect, and it will give 28+ mpg in the 240sx chassis. its also the quickest to install, around 3-6 hours for a complete swap (old engine out, new engine in) if you know what you are doing and have all the parts ready.
JSimpson
11-11-2011, 02:03 PM
3-6 hours? what kind of nascar team installed your SR!?
the40sondec
11-11-2011, 05:42 PM
3-6 hours? what kind of nascar team installed your SR!?
PEET STOP! (guido from cars 3 voice) lol
shhhhhh, dont give away my secrets lol..This is the next step after the f20 :-)
Any whats with all the ball busters?
Whats wrong with dreaming?
We ALL at one point sat drolling over a car in a magzine. " Damn, one day Im gonna have that"
Take what you have and improve it. Your going to blow motors, ruin shit and most of all, spend money.
Start with an sr,ka and work from there.
im sure you can turbo a ka for next to nothing.
I know a USED s2000 motor and trans ALONE is hanging in the $4000-$5000+ range and thats with NOTHING done to it. No stroker, turbo etc.
What people never put on here is how expensive this shit really gets. ya a $4000 motor is just a motor without 90% of what it really needs.
very true. like every1 says up here, without bashing, it all depends on money, taste, plans and time. think about what YOU want to do with the car. What power range YOU want. other aspects that YOU need to research fully b4 just tossing money in any direction IMO
F20cS13
11-11-2011, 05:53 PM
Well I think we more then answered this guys question lol.
CleanAndLegit
11-13-2011, 11:15 AM
yeah with shitty answers, go ls
super light fast cheaper than jz or rb
reliable easy to get and find parts
Walperstyle
11-13-2011, 03:31 PM
I'm thinking turbo Radial engine
http://www.aviation-history.com/republic/p47-turbo-sys-3.jpg
http://www.eucmh.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/Pratt-Withney-P-47-Engine.jpg
essthirteeeen42
11-13-2011, 07:44 PM
If I were you I'd go SR..
jacobs13
11-13-2011, 07:50 PM
3-6 hours? what kind of nascar team installed your SR!?
I can do it that fast, its easy when you've done it over and over
BNASTYs13
11-13-2011, 08:11 PM
sr. all day.
F20cS13
11-13-2011, 08:17 PM
yeah with shitty answers, go ls
super light fast cheaper than jz or rb
reliable easy to get and find parts
Or you could just be supercool and buy a Corvette.......:duh:
Howlermonkey
11-17-2011, 09:37 AM
L28et........maybe a RD28Ti.
KendallH
11-17-2011, 09:52 AM
KA24E, you don't have to change mounts :rawk:
TallGuyTurbo
12-21-2011, 07:15 PM
Ls1. Powerful, fuel efficient (moreso than the KA), extremely easy to find parts, cheap upgrades, reliable, DISPLACEMENT, not much heavier than the KA so allows to maintain balance of car, etc, etc, etc.
usdm180sx
12-21-2011, 07:30 PM
Unsubscribed
JDM king240
12-21-2011, 07:32 PM
Dnt go sr20. Go 2jz and I'm doing 2nd and it is working out really good but is pricey
alwaysnboost
12-19-2015, 04:29 PM
Ls1. Powerful, fuel efficient (moreso than the KA), extremely easy to find parts, cheap upgrades, reliable, DISPLACEMENT, not much heavier than the KA so allows to maintain balance of car, etc, etc, etc.
^ 100% agree with this guy. Power on tap, lightweight, easy to repair, everyone knows how to tune them and with a nice cam will make anyone turn their head. LS all the way.
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