Basic Drift Chassis Setup Part 1

[2_Liter_Turbo]

MotoIQ's first articles in a series on how to setup a grassroots drift car without all the high dollar engineering the pros use.

Basic Drift Chassis Setup Part 1 > MotoIQ > Magazine Articles (http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_articles/articletype/articleview/articleid/2210/basic-drift-chassis-setup-part-1.aspx)

Basic Drift Chassis Setup Part 2 (http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_articles/articletype/articleview/articleid/2259/basic-drift-chassis-setup-part-2.aspx)

Basic Drift Chassis Setup Part 3
http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_articles/id/2382/basic-drift-chassis-setup-part-3.aspx

[Pandapants]

Pretty boring read. A little disappointing considering the other articles at motoiq. Just a bunch of plugs for companies and no real useful information about damper valving.

[revcyanide]

basic, the title said basic, wtf do you expect.

it was very well set up for someone who knows 0 about suspension, which i believe was it's intent. all the info was irrelevant to me, as it's nothing i don't know, but for someone just starting out and wants to learn the basics, it was well written.

[2_Liter_Turbo]

I think he is just setting the pace for a series of articles. Gotta start with an intro basically. The next one I'm sure will have more useful info for the beginners.

[2_Liter_Turbo]

Added part 2!

Basic Drift Chassis Setup Part 2 (http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_articles/articletype/articleview/articleid/2259/basic-drift-chassis-setup-part-2.aspx)

[Phate]

Awesome articles. Mike Kojima rules.

[landins13]

so i just read 4 pages of : you should get coilovers but not cheap ones and dont make the car too low or too stiff.


Really.....

[2_Liter_Turbo]

so i just read 4 pages of : you should get coilovers but not cheap ones and dont make the car too low or too stiff.


Really.....

The second article is more informative.

[hksztss]

how to set up car

rims turbo body kit diff coilovers , oops done

[yellowxhoodie]

Except your completely wrong^

In no particular order, first three mods should be Coilovers, Seat, Diff

[bataangpinoy]

should be 4 mods.

good wheel and hub to bring wheel closer to you
seat and rails
coilovers
diff.

[ILoveMyRHS13]

should be 4 mods.

good wheel and hub to bring wheel closer to you
seat and rails
coilovers
diff.
Agreed, oh and fucking tie rods. Because fuck bending stock shit.

[s13_maJiK]

Agreed, oh and fucking tie rods. Because fuck bending stock shit.

No doubt. Seen way too many people snapping/bending them at drift days. I'd also add RUCA's to the list.

[sugarkouki]

^^^^^^^this.

[SlideOrDie831]

Mike has some awesome articles.

[Jerrys14q]

so far we have
wheels
coils
seat
diff
tie rods
rucas

anything else

[rb25_s13*CHUKI]

Top 10 things to have a pretty solid daily and track fun car! No order here but should be done before!

SOME NICE SIZED WHEELS TO RUN A GOOD SIZE TIRE FRONT AND REAR! DOESN'T NEED TO BE HELLA FLUSH 18X12 -52 OFFSET EITHER. A GOOD 17X9 AND UP WOULD BE GOOD TO RUN, YOU CAN RUN ANY TIRE FROM A 215/50/17 STRETCH TO A 265/45/17 STRAIGHT GRIP STATUS!

1.bucket seat

2.diff

3.coilovers (a good spring and shock combo will work but will cost almost the same as some decent coilovers)

4.aftermarket tie rods (tein is the way to go)

^^ those are the big ones i would do! These others are just lil bits that help everything come together!

5.rucas

6.tension rods

7.toe arms

8.good steering wheel setup that brings the wheel a bit closer to you

9.good clutch setup

10.good brakes/setup

also what alot of people over look is!! Good gripping tires up front!

[Jerrys14q]

What tire size would you use for a 17x9.75 wheel (xxr)

[2_Liter_Turbo]

I run a 275/40 on my 17x9.

[pacotaco345]

What tire size would you use for a 17x9.75 wheel (xxr)

how much power do you make?

[rb25_s13*CHUKI]

What tire size would you use for a 17x9.75 wheel (xxr)

I try to run 235/45/17 at the very minimum

[rb25_s13*CHUKI]

I run a 275/40 on my 17x9.

Is the side wall kinda muffin top?

[2_Liter_Turbo]

Is the side wall kinda muffin top?

Nope, perfectly square like it should be. None of that stretched tire BS...

[rb25_s13*CHUKI]

Nope, perfectly square like it should be. None of that stretched tire BS...

Yea that stretch tire fad is extreme, maybe a tad bit of stretch like running a 235 on a x9 would be ok but people who do freaking 215/45 on 10s and 10.5 or the ever more extreme stretches

[2_Liter_Turbo]

Smallest I'd ever run on a 9" wheel, is a 245. Just personal opinion, lol.

[Jerrys14q]

how much power do you make?

i have a stock KA
235 45 17 sound good there $62 dollars a piece

[Jerrys14q]

never mind i was looking at the rubber thread ill just rather go 245 45 17

[Jerrys14q]

any one know anything about Feal suspension, im thinking about buying pbm coils but now im think about feal or apex now

[uraznfriend]

Top 10 things to have a pretty solid daily and track fun car! No order here but should be done before!

SOME NICE SIZED WHEELS TO RUN A GOOD SIZE TIRE FRONT AND REAR! DOESN'T NEED TO BE HELLA FLUSH 18X12 -52 OFFSET EITHER. A GOOD 17X9 AND UP WOULD BE GOOD TO RUN, YOU CAN RUN ANY TIRE FROM A 215/50/17 STRETCH TO A 265/45/17 STRAIGHT GRIP STATUS!

1.bucket seat

2.diff

3.coilovers (a good spring and shock combo will work but will cost almost the same as some decent coilovers)

4.aftermarket tie rods (tein is the way to go)

^^ those are the big ones i would do! These others are just lil bits that help everything come together!

5.rucas

6.tension rods

7.toe arms

8.good steering wheel setup that brings the wheel a bit closer to you

9.good clutch setup

10.good brakes/setup

also what alot of people over look is!! Good gripping tires up front!

Do most of you guys put the coilovers on without accommodating arms? ex. ruca, toe arms, tension etc...
How would you be drifting an a fucked up alignment??

[azndummie]

These articles are great!

[Turbo_Turtle88]

First article was so boring. But I have to say this second one is a must read for intro to drifting. AMAZING!!!! I even learned a little more :D

[pejsa]

no drift car would be complete without a giant sticker that covers half your windshield

[Turbo_Turtle88]

LOL i thought everyone knew that was the first and best angle mod to do. at least and extra 15 degrees just from a cheap one lol.

[perico_asesino78]

hi, any have drift alignment specs for my S14?
Thanks!

[josephin510]

Wrong best mods is just plain seat time.

[KendallH]

Wrong best mods is just plain seat time.

This. So many people just get into s-chassis and start modding before even breaking the tires loose once. Friend of mine was on cut springs, welded diff, and a single cam and could out drift me right after I had bought my sr hatch on coils. Best mods to start out with is fixing things and reliability mods.

[fckillerbee]

Wrong best mods is just plain seat time.

THIS.


ever seen hulk hogans kid drift his viper. That's what happens when you don't have seat time and think you can just learn in a already purpose built drift car.

It takes experience to understand why you need 6 degrees of negative front camber....same with learning about different front and rear tire sizes/compounds.

none the less...everyone has to start somewhere.

[godrifttoday]

just get a gt3 rs and your perfect

[tougefactory]

This. So many people just get into s-chassis and start modding before even breaking the tires loose once. Friend of mine was on cut springs, welded diff, and a single cam and could out drift me right after I had bought my sr hatch on coils. Best mods to start out with is fixing things and reliability mods.

:2f2f:

Seat time, seat time, seat time

[silsx13]

:2f2f:

Seat time, seat time, seat time

^ Seat time all the time.

The best bang for the buck mod you could ever do for your car.

[BoostSlideWayz]

Wrong best mods is just plain seat time.

I dont consider getting experience a mod...

mod= upgrading your car

experience= upgrading your skill level

even though experience is everything in any motorsport i personally dont consider it a mod....

What i would say when i raced MX is 90% rider 10 & bike, same thing in this case.. but as you grow more experienced the more mods you need so you can enhance your driving like higher speeds and learning to control at those high speeds. even if your a pro and your car cant keep up with you, your opponent will win because youll be trying to keep up witch means less angle.. where as the guy/gal with more power or mods than you will be able to widen the gap between the 2 of you and have better angle.

All in all i do believe mods can play a part in how experienced you are and sometimes you can just feel like your car is just holding you back because its not fast or the suspension isnt good enough or other mods you need ETC. But yeah experience is best of allllll.

[fckillerbee]

welded diff
coils
bucket seat
some cheap tires...go have fun and be safe.

[Junior x]

^amen
shit I've been drifting a stock s14 for a year working on my driving skills. Now I feel limited by powaa :(
Oh well who don't like sliding with wide open(;

[Jerrys14q]

anyone know where i can get a welded diff? my last diff was done by chris "flybert" but i haven't herd from him. Im located in Orange county, ca

[fckillerbee]

yeah, there's some shop in city of industry.

Real easy, go on craigslist, and search auto parts for "welded diff" in LA area. They charge $100 for remove and install with welded diff. They keep your old one.

:D

[Matej]

If they do not care about looks, then why do all the cars in the pictures have aero/paint/graphics?

Liars.

[Jerrys14q]

yeah i seen that but i wanted to see my options.

[Tulok]

You don't need a bucket seat, scoot your seat up!
Welded diff, lots of tires.
Then you can get coilovers if you really want, but don't slam it and you want have to pay for a new alignment... done!

welded diff, tires and coilovers, that's it:
Street Drifting S13 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYmDTR4mjN4)

[godrifttoday]

Shit! I've done it backwards... Full suspension upgrade from adjustable arms, coils, diff, solid subframe bushing, reinforced subframe to dropping as most weight as possible in the car, bucket seat, hydro ebrake ...still need to order my front driftworks knuckles and I have yet to drift my car. Never have... Dammit

[2_Liter_Turbo]

Part 3 is posted up! The topic is one of the most important: Alignment!

Basic Drift Chassis Setup Part 3 (http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_articles/id/2382/basic-drift-chassis-setup-part-3.aspx)

[Brian]

I aligned my drift car one time in the years and years I owned it (and it didn't come out very good anyways)

You should be fine by just eyeballing it. That's all I did.

[conrad_s13.5]

well,.... i wouldnt recommend that.

A consistent / reliable set up is where its at.

otherwise your just compensating here and there for your cars set up slowly going to shit over time

[fckillerbee]

I aligned my drift car one time in the years and years I owned it (and it didn't come out very good anyways)

You should be fine by just eyeballing it. That's all I did.

I'm sure BH's eyeballing it...is 95% accurate. Good enough to get you driving, and fine for beggining drifting, if you can get an alignment though, highly recommended.

well,.... i wouldnt recommend that.

A consistent / reliable set up is where its at.

otherwise your just compensating here and there for your cars set up slowly going to shit over time


yes, the driver will make up for any issues the car may have, but you can't build consistency when the car isn't accurately "even" or "setup".

Like why would you run a 205 on one side and a 235 on the other. You could technically drift it, but not the best.

[LockOn!]

welded diff
coils
bucket seat
some cheap tires...go have fun and be safe.

QFT

and don't forget to air those rears up to like A BILLION psi. especially if your running a tired ass KA like me hahaha. Then slowly let the pressure out for more grip as you learn to control a slide.

[conrad_s13.5]

yes, the driver will make up for any issues the car may have, but you can't build consistency when the car isn't accurately "even" or "setup".

Like why would you run a 205 on one side and a 235 on the other. You could technically drift it, but not the best.

yeah,. i get that...lol
i was referring to the 'F an alignment' type post

[Brian]

I stand by my opinion!
:)

[s13 @ fullboost]

+1 for string alignments

[Souljahzs13]

I can say I learned one thing new from those articles

[fckillerbee]

I stand by my opinion!
:)

it's not how you stand by your car Brian...it's....lol



string alignments work...electronic/laser is always the most accurate. Next thing you know Quoc will chime in about how he has pre-set measurements for all his arms that give him pre-set alignment specs. lol.

i <3 driftspeed

[Creizai]

I did enjoy them compared to searching through 2006 internet pages. So thanks

[RBs13:)]

Just dont tell the kid to spend money on bucket seat, expensive Tein stuff and rucas - you dont need alignment correction and stuff if you dont lower your car so much:)