Rb26dett in s13???

[Crab Walker]

arite, now i know that a rb26dett can fit into a s14 but I wasent shure abot a s13???

[Burmonster]

Originally posted by Crab Walker
arite, now i know that a rb26dett can fit into a s14 but I wasent shure abot a s13???

anything can fit in to anything with enough time and money. Mark my words, one day I will fit a blackmarket soviet rocket into a Honda CRX. That thing would fly:p

[kuruptR]

yup! it will touch the stock rad, but it fits with modifications.

[ratm]

Yes it can. I think Dousan was the one that scanned this picture.


http://webpages.acs.ttu.edu/keramire/rps13_107.jpg

[Halz]

Lets see.. if a KA24DE works in a S14, and works in an S13.. that could only mean whatever works in the S14 also works in the S13! :cry:

[mibre]

from my study's in the swap I was told it had to go trough a single turbo convertion. but by looking at the image it seems that the dual turbo would fit but with some modifications... Unsure how hard the swap would be. but like the first guy said,,, with enought money anything is possible...

mibre

[-E-]

Hmm I remember some one on automotiveforums.com has an s13 with Rb26dett you can go check his name is S13GTR

[Silvia Wannabe]

I would take a 972 hp 240 anyday;) You can do anything with money, that's why I'm doing anything.

That's right I have been merely browsing this site for like the last three months.

[Dousan_PG]

yep i scanned that
he's still twin turbo because its RHD
look at where your brake mc and booster are on LHD, look at it on RHD

if you want TT on right hand drive....

1jzgte or 2jzgte

;)

[s14falcon]

Theres some guy in south florida here, I think Miami, who has an orange s13 with an rb26. I also think he kept the twin turbos, but I'm not totally sure on that one.

[240Dave]

Originally posted by Halz
Lets see.. if a KA24DE works in a S14, and works in an S13.. that could only mean whatever works in the S14 also works in the S13! :cry:

That may be true but its not exactly logical.

Pulling #'s out my ass...
If a ka is 30" long
rb26 was 40" long
s14 engine bay was 42" long
s13 engine bay was 39" long

Hrm...ka fits in both, rb doesn't. :wtc:

Again, I KNOW those numbers are WAY off, just illustrating a point.

[Dousan_PG]

Originally posted by 240Dave
That may be true but its not exactly logical.

Pulling #'s out my ass...
If a ka is 30" long
rb26 was 40" long
s14 engine bay was 42" long
s13 engine bay was 39" long

Hrm...ka fits in both, rb doesn't. :wtc:

Again, I KNOW those numbers are WAY off, just illustrating a point.

um yes it does fit. does the above pic not prove that???

[240Dave]

Originally posted by dousan36
um yes it does fit. does the above pic not prove that???

When did I say it doesn't fit? Try reading my post again...

I was showing the error of logic in this statement
"Lets see.. if a KA24DE works in a S14, and works in an S13.. that could only mean whatever works in the S14 also works in the S13!"

I wasn't saying the rb doesn't fit, I see that it obviously does and as I said...just pulling #'s out of my ass to illustrate a point.

[Dousan_PG]

well why? your point ****ing sucks. your wrong just admit it
quit wasting time to bump up your post count.


either back up your post with FACTS or dont start spreading rumors because some numbnuts will take those as real numbers.

[Crab Walker]

So how hard is the FR to AWD conversion?

[240Dave]

Dousan, chill man. I don't give a damn about post count...I could prove it to you if I really had to.
You shouldn't be one to say something like that given yours.
Sometimes it feels like you attack people just because they have a low count, regardless of what they say.


I guess I didn't make myself clear.

"Lets see.. if a KA24DE works in a S14, and works in an S13.. that could only mean whatever works in the S14 also works in the S13!"

I guess you and I think alike, people are totally stupid. You think people will take my numbers as fact even though in my post I said twice they were not real numbers. Honestly, if anybody takes my numbers as real, they don't deserve to own a car.
And I think people will apply the quoted blanket statment to other engines and parts.

All I was trying to do was avoide any confusion for others who may misread that quote. Are you saying the s13 and s14 engine bay dimentions are exactly equal in ever way? If so, then I'm dead wrong and I admit it. If they are at all different (and it sounds like they are based on some other things in this thread) then I'm right and you need to chill out.

[s14falcon]

So how hard is the FR to AWD conversion?

WAY much harder than hookin the rb up to a rwd tranny. I don't think anyone has ever made an awd 240. If someone can prove me wrong, please do, because that would be totally awesome.

[Dousan_PG]

i dont know if they are same or different
i would guess VERY similar but not 100% same (but close since i think either s14 or s13 fits are interchangable for some stbs) so..very close but maybe not 100% same

[llcs-13]

The Miami Car. Twin Turbo. S-13.

[llcs-13]

One More, closer.

[Dousan_PG]

sweet! THANKS! :)
tt fits a-ok :) woot.
any modification to the brake mc or anything of that sort (hardlines and such)

and if you upgrade the turbos can you still go TT or have to go single?

[llcs-13]

The Miami Car uses over/Under instead of the front rear for Twin Turbo. The Japanese picture uses a cut core support and the radiator placed in the slot. The Miami Car uses a stock top support, different reinforcement, but the radiator is below the core support. You can view the radiator below in the attachment.

[Dousan_PG]

AAAH i c! THANKS! :) great job!

[s14falcon]

llcs-13, you da man. Nice work, I would have looked for them a little, but I'm too tired now. My friend got to see that car a couple months ago, lucky bastard, he says its really awesome.

[llcs-13]

Here is the RB25 for those curious. Single turbo of course.

In either car, depending on your transmission mount and motor mount fabrication, either engine will fit with a stock radiator, as this picture proves on the S-14. As per the S-13, the radiator MUST be moved.

[llcs-13]

Not my cars of course. Pictures were taken at the Miami Meet. Their are many RB swaps in Miami/South Florida area. Yes, the Orange car is awesome.

Here is a picture of the Left side. Notice 240SX is color coded on the side quarter window. The car is balanced, quiet and very fast.

[llcs-13]

Another Powerful RB25 in an S-14.

Bed time.....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[weirdstyles.net]

That is a THICK engine. Looks like its putting more space to use, kinda. I would love to see some weight spec.s on that as far as balance.

Right now I am so bent on what I am saving for. I need a new ride and I cant decide on ****. Do I wanna...

Good Condition DOHC Fastback
97/8 S14
SC300?

...Either way I would like to end up with a 6cyl. Either an RB in the Nissan or the 2JZGTE in the SC300...

[old_s13]

I wonder about some of these motor swaps though.. how much is cut, how much is welded.. and how facking easy it is to change lets say, YOUR STARTER? I can see it now, you have to drop your motor just to change the oil. :)

[Grumpy]

dousan36, We have finally finished our kit. Will be ready for the public next week. The only mod to fit the stock Rb26 is to bend one hard line over and a small dent in the firewall. Of couse you have to do the tranny swap and the Pan mod. But our kit does allow you to use the RB25 pan or the RB26 pan (You have to cut off the front dif).

Our kit will allow you to use the stock radiator point and the kit fits both the S13 and the S14.

Here are some pics...........
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid83/pcf177ec737b6f7d0a28f7853b1d07e2a/fae1baeb.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid83/p80ce6762d6bc5dd26b80c6c5e84261d0/fae1bae7.jpg

And here is a S14 with a single set up............
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid81/p57f1879d8bf4456cf5c821ef7ef456b4/fafce004.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid72/p33c4e8349e78c36ff7d05abf1f7e9b13/fb847bf4.jpg

Here is the down pipes for the twin setup...( Of course I need to finish welding them, heheheh)
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid83/pb1245ed90a48659c75b5c6e087b9eb43/fae1ba60.jpg

old_s13l, It isn't that bad. I can change the starter and all of the other things with the motor still in the car. The only time I have to remove the motor to replace something is for the clutch.
hahahahah MIKE you suck, get that nice new motor going yet?????

Grumpy

[Vatche]

yeah everytime i change my oil my hand goes into the gut of the motor to get the damn filter haha but thats not the hard part, i had to pull out my exhaust manifold/turbo cuz it was leaking from one of the bolts coming lose....god damn that was a good 10 hours of work....it sucks i think i have to do it again haha

[Dousan_PG]

mckinney rocks! :) haha so cool thanks
damn that's hot

i still will be calling you about an engine one day.haha...got some other stuff to finish first then...engine time :) THANKS!

[Grumpy]

dousan36, I'll always have a engine for you........

I'm leaving for Japan in about two weeks to meet my supplier and pick up some parts. Anything you might need let me know. My other supp0lier has a bunch of goodies coming in to the shop in a few weeks.

Grumpy

[llcs-13]

Questions directed for McKinney..

Can you supply the RB26DETT with both the factory RB26 tranny (4WD) and sell the RB25 with it (RWD) as a package?

Second:

I am not keen on the firewall modifications. For S-13 I would love to leave it virgin..not smashed, dented or rounded down the tube. I know this can be done with the engine a few inches more forward, and radiator relocate/Mod. Is their a motor mount situation in favor of more mods to the front end and leaving the firewall alone>

I am not keen on mods to the firewall, torque tube (transmission hump) area.

Do-able?

[Grumpy]

I have a Motor set like that already at the shop........but please call us I don't want to upset anyone on here about talking shop....

The only dent you need to make on the firewall is smaller then the mouse for your computer. And onlyabout 5mm deep. THATS IT!!!!

You will never even know its there.................

Grumpy

[Dousan_PG]

sweet ill think bout it
btw you guys going to be at driftshowoff this weekend? ill be competing and if i get a chance to sneak out ill find your booth (if you have one)

:)

if not, and you just check it out make sure to say high. my car will be burgundy but ill have the unpainted wide front fenders and some dope-ass wheels chillin underneath :p

[nrcooled]

This thread is giving me bad ideas.:bash:

maybe another s13 with RB26? Give the wife the SR s13?
Grumpy, I will be PM'ing you. Having money is bad sometimes:D

[brokenben]

Originally posted by nrcooled
Give the wife the SR s13?


give me the SR s13!!!:D

[Sr20 B12]

Originally posted by llcs-13
The Miami Car. Twin Turbo. S-13.
This is my friends car. It was completed more than 2 years ago, so I think it's safe to say that it was the first lhd 240 with the RB26 (running the factory twins mind you). Nothing on this car is left untouch, exepect the engine. That is still stock, but it has put down 424 lb's tq and the whp # is high than that (i'll let you all guess what that # is). Hopefully you guys will get the full its run down along with a few of our other car, in paper format very soon.

[TokyoDrifterXo7]

RB26DETT is possible to install into a s13, however you'll be spending way more than the amount you'll spend on a SR swap, first you're trying to install a 6cyl. into a 4cyl. engine bay, mount position has to be altered some parts of the engine bay have to be fabricated just to drop the motor in the car, you will have to take the radiator out and replacing it under the car. all the pipings has to be made and can't use a GTR transmission, simply because GTR's are part time 4WD, which uses the Atessa ETS system on all GTR's. would need a transmission from RB25DET and custom make the driveshaft. you would definately need a mechanical LSD to handle all this power and also the final gear must be changed. and if you're running stock brakes on there, you're in trouble. The question is are you willing to spend 20k for your swap?

[Dousan_PG]

Originally posted by TokyoDrifterXo7
RB26DETT is possible to install into a s13, however you'll be spending way more than the amount you'll spend on a SR swap, first you're trying to install a 6cyl. into a 4cyl. engine bay, mount position has to be altered some parts of the engine bay have to be fabricated just to drop the motor in the car, you will have to take the radiator out and replacing it under the car. all the pipings has to be made and can't use a GTR transmission, simply because GTR's are part time 4WD, which uses the Atessa ETS system on all GTR's. would need a transmission from RB25DET and custom make the driveshaft. you would definately need a mechanical LSD to handle all this power and also the final gear must be changed. and if you're running stock brakes on there, you're in trouble. The question is are you willing to spend 20k for your swap?

HAHAHAHAHAH
NEWBIE READ THE THREAD

you are sooo bad on the info! sooo bad. so wrong!

[TokyoDrifterXo7]

dousan, your stupid man. My friend Tom owns a shop and thats what he told me man. Seems to me you just like being an :mrmeph: so if it's the wrong info correct it genius :rolleyes:

[Dousan_PG]

Originally posted by TokyoDrifterXo7
dousan, your stupid man. My friend Tom owns a shop and thats what he told me man. Seems to me you just like being an :mrmeph: so if it's the wrong info correct it genius :rolleyes:


im NOT a RB master but i know a few basics.

laying down rad..LIE
look at mckinney's info. also those pics posted earlier in thread (yellow car) and that zilvia member's car (RIP)

WHAT'S FUNNY
this pic was posted IN THIS THREAD:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid72/p33c4e8349e78c36ff7d05abf1f7e9b13/fb847bf4.jpg

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA as i said READ THE THREAD!

tranny yes, you need RB25 duh. thats obvious. the front suspensions differ.


LSd...need mechanical? noooo
open diff would work but why?
clutch is fine.
mechanical is fine too depending on setup. you are not REQUIRED to get a mechanical type LSD.
final gear, yes depending on WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
ive seen s13s w/ sr20 w/ gtr internals on tranny running 4.7 final gears. it depends on car and setup OF COURSE.


stock brakes. only a MORON does a engine swap (sr or other) that has MORE power over stock that keeps stock brakes. brakes for a z32 cost about 200 bucks. damn if you cant afford 200 you got issues.

your friend might want to talk with mckinney. they know their stuff VERY well.

edit: grammar fixin'

[TokyoDrifterXo7]

theres only one turbo on there genius. i doubt the radiator would fit with 2 turbos mah man. Did you not notice that man? :D

[Dousan_PG]

Originally posted by TokyoDrifterXo7
theres only one turbo on there genius. i doubt the radiator would fit with 2 turbos mah man. Did you not notice that man? :D

oh that comment
sonny boy, if you read the THREAD as i said:

tt setup on a USA car..radiator NOT laid flat as you said it should be. posted by llcs-13

The Miami Car uses over/Under instead of the front rear for Twin Turbo. The Japanese picture uses a cut core support and the radiator placed in the slot. The Miami Car uses a stock top support, different reinforcement, but the radiator is below the core support. You can view the radiator below in the attachment.

go back to his thread to find that pic

and this pic was posted..TT setup w/ what seems to be stock rad location
http://webpages.acs.ttu.edu/keramire/rps13_107.jpg



again tokyo'drifter'

READ THE THREAD

and WHY wont the rad fit w/ 2 turbos
radiator is on the FRONT
turbos are on the SIDE
hahahaha..c'mon is plain as day!

[Red]

Well... I cant wait to do my engine... I have been waiting for this RB26-TT kit to come out...

Once I finish paying off my car... and finish all my suspension mods

I'll be doing the RB26TT... :evil:

[Red]

They did move that one forward a little bit... You can see they cut it out around it....


But it does not NEED to move... It will fit fine...

[TokyoDrifterXo7]

Dousan you are the man not me... people have there own ways of doing things ya know. leave my name alone. i like it OKAY? :p Is that a DRFT kit on that car?:bow: *Dousan OWNZ me*

[Big Zee]

dousan36, We have finally finished our kit. Will be ready for the public next week. The only mod to fit the stock Rb26 is to bend one hard line over and a small dent in the firewall. Of couse you have to do the tranny swap and the Pan mod. But our kit does allow you to use the RB25 pan or the RB26 pan (You have to cut off the front dif).

Our kit will allow you to use the stock radiator point and the kit fits both the S13 and the S14.

Here are some pics...........
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid83/pcf177ec737b6f7d0a28f7853b1d07e2a/fae1baeb.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid83/p80ce6762d6bc5dd26b80c6c5e84261d0/fae1bae7.jpg

And here is a S14 with a single set up............
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid81/p57f1879d8bf4456cf5c821ef7ef456b4/fafce004.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid72/p33c4e8349e78c36ff7d05abf1f7e9b13/fb847bf4.jpg

Here is the down pipes for the twin setup...( Of course I need to finish welding them, heheheh)
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid83/pb1245ed90a48659c75b5c6e087b9eb43/fae1ba60.jpg

old_s13l, It isn't that bad. I can change the starter and all of the other things with the motor still in the car. The only time I have to remove the motor to replace something is for the clutch.
hahahahah MIKE you suck, get that nice new motor going yet?????

Grumpy

question, you say you still have to use the rb25 transmission for the rb26 swap, how much longer is the rb26 transmission compared to the rb25 ?
could one swap the tail ends of each trans to make the 6speed work ?
I think I have a way to get rid of the awd system ( pull fuse and take the drive axle to the front off, I will figure out when I get the motor/trans in hand )

I've searched on this forum also before one gets mad at me :)

[drift freaq]

well you obviously did not search that hard because there is a RB faq in the tech section, and your question has been discussed at length all over Zilvia. Plus you bumped a 3 year old thread. you fail!!

[OdessaS13]

before
I've searched on this forum also before one gets mad at me :)

================> after \/

I've searched on this forum also before one gets mad at me :wtc:

--------------------------------------------------------------

now look what you've done Drift hahahahhaha
ahhh bad humor

[Big Zee]

well you obviously did not search that hard because there is a RB faq in the tech section, and your question has been discussed at length all over Zilvia. Plus you bumped a 3 year old thread. you fail!!

my bad, I was informed this was a 3year old thread, I apologize for pissing you off :)

[drift freaq]

my bad, I was informed this was a 3year old thread, I apologize for pissing you off :)
you did not piss me off. It takes a lot more than this to piss me off. I was trying to teach you something though. Follow forum rules and guidelines . Read the stickies. Search because the truth is you answer is here already and Grumpy has not been on the forum in years.