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DALAZ_68
04-06-2011, 01:29 AM
so i find myself with a lot of time on my hands...and pretty much have had a thought brewing in my head

been thinking about making a fiberglass fan shroud for my s13...now b4 i get shitted on, no its not a KA, its a CA, which means alignment is off, its not a stock radiatr, its a CXracing rad (talk all the shit you wish, its held up for a yr or so and 2 track events, and great install fitment no mods needed)

im thinking of running a dual fan set up, yes i know theres various others things i could do, cut to fit a ka, taurus fan set up, but hey shoot me for being a little different, its not ur money ima b using...

my thoughts are to making a fan shroud that fits stock(maybe starting the base off a broken ka shroud, but dont know if i could fiberglass over it?)

pretty much instead of having it the way a stock one is, i figured maybe making it more of a cone shape so it centralizes the flow of air more towards the block/head instead of letting it dicipate the flowed air everywhere.

pretty much the spacing between my shitty fan and block is pretty much a foot in distance, i never had a shroud for it...

i dont like the common mushimoto style ones since it fits flat up against the rad, and pretty much restricts air flow a bit, not crazy, but i figure any bit helps right?

so my questions

could i use a broken fan shroud as a base to start the project?

any preferences on kits or brands that i could find anywhere to avoid shipping ad what not (dead time)?

techniques?

what could i use to start the mold/shapping process that wont stick?

any and all help is appreciated... :hsdance:

or am i just climbing a tree to tall here? if so why?

DreamN
04-06-2011, 03:12 AM
Have you given the Altima fans a thought? OEM and pull a good amount of air. Dual speed too.

Plentiful at the yards if I recall correctly. I know I'll be going this route.

youkilledkillerB
04-06-2011, 04:43 AM
I think u should be able to use the shroud. I've only worked with fiberglassing surfboards. I know you can use mold release wax. Rub it over the shroud and then gel coat it. Then the resin and glass...should come out nice. Good luck. p.s. def get a mask; the glass and resin are like herpes....That shit is forever.

bb4_96
04-06-2011, 06:08 AM
seems like alot of work to accomidate a mechanical fan. If your going to do it look into how sub enclosures are made with the stretched fabric then resin. except lay tin foil over the fabric then mat and resin over that. Or just cut what you have to off of the ka shroud to line it up with the ca fan then lay mat over the shroud for a mold. It's gonna be heavy though.

DALAZ_68
04-06-2011, 08:48 AM
Have you given the Altima fans a thought? OEM and pull a good amount of air. Dual speed too.

Plentiful at the yards if I recall correctly. I know I'll be going this route.

yes i have, but like i stated prior, i want to focus the air flow more, pretty sure u HAVE a fan shroud, i dont...so ur shroud + 2 fans work great... :hyper:

I think u should be able to use the shroud. I've only worked with fiberglassing surfboards. I know you can use mold release wax. Rub it over the shroud and then gel coat it. Then the resin and glass...should come out nice. Good luck. p.s. def get a mask; the glass and resin are like herpes....That shit is forever.

thanks you, and yeah, deff using a mask... ;)

seems like alot of work to accomidate a mechanical fan. If your going to do it look into how sub enclosures are made with the stretched fabric then resin. except lay tin foil over the fabric then mat and resin over that. Or just cut what you have to off of the ka shroud to line it up with the ca fan then lay mat over the shroud for a mold. It's gonna be heavy though.

i dont think you read the first post, there is no mechanical fan, only 2 electric fans...

Om1kron
04-06-2011, 07:20 PM
Steve, Taurus fan... done and done.

essforteen
04-06-2011, 07:30 PM
Steve I guess you misunderstood what DreamN said the Altima has a shroud built in!
and is an almost perfect fit!

http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/imageserver.x/00000000/dieselcafe/9225416E3Qi01.jpg

DALAZ_68
04-07-2011, 12:01 AM
Steve, Taurus fan... done and done.

hey...i dont wanna...lol

i just wanna try...

Steve I guess you misunderstood what DreamN said the Altima has a shroud built in!
and is an almost perfect fit!

http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/imageserver.x/00000000/dieselcafe/9225416E3Qi01.jpg
i understood...just dont wanna listen...lol


on the serious though, i want to try and make a shroud so just help push the air just towards the block...instead of spread and unfocused as the altimas...

anything helps...and frankly, i have time, just wanna try...


and last i remember, both taurus and altimas are not direct bolt on, by making one, i can make flanges to fit/bolt on...

ericcastro
04-07-2011, 12:32 AM
Steve, Taurus fan... done and done.
you mean,


....Steve, Taurus fan... 30.000cfm's and 50,000 cfm's.....

lol, its what i run too. (only have the 30,000 wired though.) think steve just wants to make something :)

Wake
04-07-2011, 12:43 AM
Steves got the "make something" bug for sure.

duffman1278
04-07-2011, 12:58 AM
Working with composites, even fiberglass is not an easy task and requires a good amount of time and proper setup. Unless you do resin filled fiber glass without vacuuming but that's pretty heavy and ghetto imo.

I would honestly consider another option if I were you unless you have the resources or the equipment yourself.

blingbling
04-07-2011, 01:15 AM
I dont mean to rain on your parade, but this idea sounds just a little bit rediculous...
I understand your whole idea of "focusing the air towards the block" but Im not sure if this is the best idea for your little creative project.
and aesthetically Im sure its going to look like shit (no offense)

Om1kron
04-07-2011, 04:42 AM
you mean,


....Steve, Taurus fan... 30.000cfm's and 50,000 cfm's.....

lol, its what i run too. (only have the 30,000 wired though.) think steve just wants to make something :)

Serious, it's like the best modification ever. This is coming from someone who daily drives a turbo charged car up hills every day. I only have low wired up. It's the best part to ever come off of a ford ever.

A blessing from the cooling gods. I love you Steve but don't be zilvia stupid and try to make a wheel out of a square when pie is available bro.

waxball88
04-07-2011, 05:37 AM
Make a cut-out from foam. Tape/foil the foam. Resin/glass it.

DALAZ_68
04-07-2011, 01:59 PM
you mean,


....Steve, Taurus fan... 30.000cfm's and 50,000 cfm's.....

lol, its what i run too. (only have the 30,000 wired though.) think steve just wants to make something :)

I really do...lol

Steves got the "make something" bug for sure.

Si

Working with composites, even fiberglass is not an easy task and requires a good amount of time and proper setup. Unless you do resin filled fiber glass without vacuuming but that's pretty heavy and ghetto imo.

I would honestly consider another option if I were you unless you have the resources or the equipment yourself.

Pretty sure I can come up with everything except maybe how to shape and form the actual mold...?

I dont mean to rain on your parade, but this idea sounds just a little bit rediculous...
I understand your whole idea of "focusing the air towards the block" but Im not sure if this is the best idea for your little creative project.
and aesthetically Im sure its going to look like shit (no offense)

Ur not, and frankly I could care less how it looks Function>Form...

Serious, it's like the best modification ever. This is coming from someone who daily drives a turbo charged car up hills every day. I only have low wired up. It's the best part to ever come off of a ford ever.

A blessing from the cooling gods. I love you Steve but don't be zilvia stupid and try to make a wheel out of a square when pie is available bro.

Ohh wayne...I hear yah...Im just tryin to see if its doable...if I do it, ill try it, if not, ill go taurus just so u no hate me :)

Make a cut-out from foam. Tape/foil the foam. Resin/glass it.

Thanks for the detail...