240sx + M3 + mt road = stupid me.

[ISTOTOSAO]

I know that I am dumb there is no need to reidorate it. I have live in the so. cal. Mts my whole life, and driven the roads for 7 yrs. I was going up the hill at 10pm going a medium speed when I was at a passing lane hids appear behind me then fly by. It was a brand new M3 with paper plates. I sped up to see what it could do (the dumb part). I proceeded to chase the M3 up the mt at insane speeds. I know the roads well so I caught up to him on the turns. we then hit a straight section of the road when he started to pull from me I realized I was a little low in the revs in third. I sliped the clutch a little and stayed the same distance from him through 100mph where abouts I shifted in to fourth gear and started to close on him until we hit the next set of turns at 107 mph and had to slow down. He then pull out and let me pass. I was dumb but proud of my sr, down pipe and intake. Don't do this it was scary.:bash:

[Dousan_PG]

nuts dood. but i was expecting "i crashed into a house" or "I ate the mountain wall" nice to see you're (and your car) are in one piece
be careful!

[Matt_240]

i like you're post count. yeah, be careful.

[Flybert]

I was thinking it was gonna be more along the lines of, "Yeah, I was goin 107 around some turns and shi t and then at one of the turnouts a cop was waiting and now I'm fucked. What can I do to fight the ticket?" JK, but keep it safe yo. Those are some insano high speeds to be doing in the mountains. Crazy MOFO!!!

[Kid Zelda]

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[JasonNagra]

Sounds like you did well to me. Touge is VERY dangerous but sounds like you know the roads VERY well and your car is done nicely along with you having some driving skills, so why be scared? Good job with the M3!

[240silvia]

How much boost? Other wise, be safe, don't kill yourself. Even though you know the roads, you could still get hurt.

[adey]

LOL no biggie, I beat an E46 M3 with mods in my stock suspensioned VW MkIV GTi... 1.8T, all of 225 stock all season rubber and a boat-like suspension. :) It just goes to show how crappy the other driver was! ... LOL... and yes, he was trying.

[f2a4s0t]

touge is so much fun but very dangerous. Sounds like you susprised the Bimmer. Keep it safe

[240Dave]

Wow, you are dumb. Obviously not too ashamed of your stupidity since you posted the pointless story...

[toreno]

WTF??

[s0ldats]

glad you're ok.

[SimpleS14]

Originally posted by Matt_240
i like you're post count. yeah, be careful.


69? It's OK...


anyways I can understand how you get caught up in the moment and don't realize what the fcuk you've done until you get (one of these options)...

*home nice and safe
*pulled over
*someone killed
*injure yourself
*FUBU (fcuked up beyond understanding)

Glad you ok and take it safe next time. It royally sucks to learn things the bad way...cause sometimes its too late to prove what you learned...get what I mean?

[mbmbmb23]

The M3 owner probably was pissed and didnt realize you had an SR....kinda like "Man...I just paid $40K for this car and some kid in and old car with 135rwhp was runnin with me.....I'm sellin this car back to the dealership!!!".





-m

[CoasTek240]

Originally posted by 240Dave
Wow, you are dumb. Obviously not too ashamed of your stupidity since you posted the pointless story...
:rolleyes: agreed

[old_s13]

What is this rubbish, why feel "stupid" for romping on a much more expensive/powerful car? I do stuff like this all the time, I dont care what kind of car I am in nor do I care how much power it has, all I care about is driver skill -- thats it.

I dont know what kind of mountain roads you have, but anything big enough to hit triple digits isnt really a mountain road. Out here in LA, the closest thing I can think of is Sepulveda.. and even that, its too bumpy.. you can only hit speeds like that on certain stretches.

Anyway.. you should be happy that you did well, and happy that you played it safe (hopefully). Because anytime you over-exert yourself and give into the "rush" thats when accidents happen. As long as you were careful and not plain wreckless, then you should be happy. Just be safe, thats all.

ps: I doubt the BMW driver didnt think much of the situation, other than how comfortable his ass feels in those nice leather heated seats. Most BMW drivers buy their cars satisfied that professional BMW racers have taken these cars to their extremes, not them. They are more concerned in looking good in their pristine, over-engineered, top dollar german vehicles. Afterall, why shouldnt they.. they paid enough to be this ignorant. :)

[amolao]

First of all this is not a flame, only a friendly suggestion:

You could it kill yourself, innocent bystander,etc,. The endings to your story are endless: go to jail, end up getting your meals thru your veins for the rest of your life,etc....Is not worth it, dude. I was young and took chances too at one time, be safe man and think how others are affected when there is a tragedy (parents,wife,etc) Is not about driving skills man, is about dealing with life.....

Peace out!

[Johny5]

"say no to drifting"

you've got to be kidding me bud. not everyone does it on the streets, you going to say no to doing it on the track too? i guess everyones entitled to their opinions, some are just wrong ;)

[aznpoopy]

showing up a m3 isn't worth the consequences of a small driving mishap. showing up a m3 isn't worth fucking up your car hitting a deer, or accidentally hitting a hiker... theres alot of crap that could go wrong. however i think we're all guilty of getting the "wtf im gonna show up this punk right now" urge. on that note, congrats on a good kill :p

drifting or even hondamatic drag is fine as long as you're doing it because you like it, not because it's the cool thing to do. do what you like to do, be responsible and do your own research.

the m3 driver sounds like a jackass to me... running a mountain road hard in a car that probably wasn't broken in yet. that dumbass...

[andrave]

if you ever hit my fiance doing 109 and manage to live through it I'm gonna cut off your balls and feed them to you for breakfast...
think about that next time you do retarded shit on public roads.

[720_datsun]

hey i know lets all flame on someone who spanked the ish out of an m3 in a 240. thatd be good.

seriously though glad you did it, just make sure your careful which i dont doubt you kinna were, but just be aware of everything around you when you do that stuff. not just the car infront that your goin against.

[DudeYourSoOOJDM]

Some people should really give up the "fatherly advice". It's old, and he's an adult w/ a license. He should know what is wrong and right, It is his choice and whether you like it or not, he's made up his mind about what he is going to do/will do.

I know of quite a few mountain roads hitting 100mph into 35mph (recommended)turn zones. We only usually drive canyons spiritedly around 1-2am. And never on our first few times on that drive.

It's all about scouting the area. I for one know where every water runoff is, where there is likely to be dirt on the road, where the deer are, etc etc.....because I do research.

I mean, If your out there in the mountains...You should have prepared yourself about what could/will happen.

You wont see us doing "spirited" driving in the dailight....It's just too much risk. Not to mention Ponch & John. 2 mile walkie talkies for your group help a whole lot.....the one time we took a mountain "shortcut" on the way to D1 qualifier we got a ticket for going 71 in a 55....and we werent even at 5/10.

[ISTOTOSAO]

It was midnight when all this happend, and I know the road extremely well. Thanks for the criticism (honestly). I doubt I will ever do it again.

[fantasya98]

good job, you killed an M3, just becareful..

[240Dave]

You know, one of our moderators was praised for calling the cops on a guy who drank 2 beers and drove...
Why is going triple digit speeds on public roads more acceptable?

I bet a lot of people will get upset about this, but screw it...
I call the cops on those I see doing shit like this, that is if I can manage to catch their plates. If not, I atleast try to say what highway they're on.

Hoping you do it in my area soon...


I don't care if your michael Schumacher...there is no safe way to drive that fast on public streets.

[DudeYourSoOOJDM]

there is no safe way to drive that fast on public streets.

Not trying to be an ass, but It's about just as safe as walking down the streets....you never know if a soccer mom in an SUV will run you over. Ya never know your pushing it too hard unless something bites you in the @$$.

It's about maintaining that level of safety in your driving. Theres crazy drivers and skilled drivers.......a crazy driver will never be a good one, because they drive on instinct....and that only goes so far. A skilled driver builds on experience.....what better a way than a stressful canyon drive?

The whole POINT of mountain driving is for the rush. Those that don't do it, dont understand it plain and simple, your not expected to.

[240Dave]

I know about rushes, I just have enough self control to not get mine on the streets. Even if I have to suffer months and months in between my fix...

"Not trying to be an ass, but It's about just as safe as walking down the streets"

Driving a mountain road at a very high rate of speed???
Not trying to be an ass, but that’s the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Yeah, anything can happen at any time...but when you’re driving 100+mph it is much more likely to happen, and it will happen much quicker.
Now, I realize the law is dumb at times, but if walking down the street were as dangerous as driving 100+mph walking would be illegal.

There are dangerous and extremely dangerous ways of being a dipshit on the street...you guys think your justified because your just doing it the dangerous way :rolleyes:

The whole point of killing people is for the rush. Those that don't do it, don’t understand it plain and simple, you’re not expected to.
How stupid does that sound? While a bit extreme (maybe, since you have the possibility of killing someone) it is exactly what you are saying.

[DudeYourSoOOJDM]

I'm talking about probabilities. Going 100mph in a canyon is VERY Dangerous, I dont prefer to. Obviously, this isn't in the turns, some canyon drives DO have straightaways you know.

I'm talking about how it is fine that you dont do it, just dont expect anyone to listen to your preaching.
You dont understand why people drive the mountains, that's fine.

You think they make street bikes to go the speed limit? what do you seriously believe they are made for? They know very well what people go out to do on bikes.

[240Dave]

"I'm talking about probabilities. Going 100mph in a canyon is VERY Dangerous"
This doesn't line up well with your last post...
Do you feel that walking is VERY dangerious? Or that the same percent of walkers and street racerz get hurt?

"You dont understand why people drive the mountains, that's fine."
Because its fun, no other reason...I understand perfectly.

Well, either way, your right...nothing I say will change anything and I wouldn't expect it to. However it's retarded for people to justify driving like that on public streets by saying manufactures make cars fast and people die from walking...and thats exactly what your doing.

Why not just say "Yes it's stupid and I'm total jackass but I feel that getting my rocks off by driving fast is worth potential harm to myself and others"
Then I'd have nothing to say other than I hope you don't hurt anybody and that a friendly neighborhood popo catches your dumb ass...

[knghtryde]

I'm sorry to say this Dave, but you have to be the dumbest man I've ever listened to. You are either a cop or just one pathetic person who thinks that all the laws are right and George W. Bush is god.

Grow up dude. Everyone has the right to enjoy life. I think you should get off your ass, and enjoy it abit also.

I really don't wanna be rude but this guys talks out of this a s s.

[240Dave]

"Now, I realize the law is dumb at times" - Me
"Thinks that all the laws are right" - You
Right...

Please name one single thing I said that is dumb. If you can do it, I'll eat my shoe.

[DudeYourSoOOJDM]

friendly neighborhood popo catches your dumb ass...

You wont find me doing anything to get attention in a neighborhood, residential area etc.....sorry

What are the chances of a person walking the street of getting hit?

Compare those chances to those of a hiker.......sheer numbers will show that there is a greater chance you'll get hit in the street.

Unless you dont read me right...I'm trying to advocate being as safe as possible while doing your thing.

And like I said earlier....nothing I said or you said will change anyone's opinions.

[misnomer]

Shit dood, everybody's pullin' the "omg yer dumb" routine when this guy STARTED the thread saying it was stupid and he wasn't going to do it anymore. Y'all need to chill out :P

Congrats on the whatever, be safe n stuff.

[old_s13]

I guess a lot of people on this forum dont understand what kind of terrain we SoCal 240 owners are blessed to drive in. We do not live in Kansas where everything is flat. In LA, there are plenty of mountain roads which are not commonly used. Most of the time, I take these roads in the daytime to practice my skills and cut time from my commutes. I dont go balls out.. I just have a bit of fun, thats all.

You have a choice when you drive your car, you can take the public roads that are heavily populated.. and deal with traffic. You can take the freeways, which are also fully of traffic and accidents. OR, you can take the canyon and spend a bit more time, but deal with NO traffic and NO cops.

I drive the canyons because that is what I like to do. Dont say "what if a hiker pops out" -- how many hikers go hiking on a paved road? Most go to actual DIRT CANYONS, where you can hike.. not walk on a paved road.

Me? If I drive fast, I usually do it at night.. I get my kick out of driving on twisty roads when no one is on them. Its as safe as it gets if you ask me. Unlike what someone else here said, I dont do it for a rush.. I do it for sheer enjoyment of driving in the canyon, period. I get no adrenaline lift off of any of this crap, just mere enjoyment.

Speed limits are good, but I dont always observe them. I drive at my own pace. If you catch me on heavily populated roads, I am usually just kicking back doing speed limit. As soon as I hit emptiness, I haul ass. I dont go "balls out" -- I just do whats safe for that time and place.

I am not gonna preach.. none of us should. What we SHOULD do.. is look at our records. I am not talking about tickets, I am talking about accidents. I am not bragging, but 7 years and 0 accidents.. I think thats a good record. I keep a distance, dont hug ass, and keep an eye around me at all times.

If you're going to drive fast, do it when the times are right.. be careful of other drivers. Dont be cocky, dont give into the RUSH or adrenaline.. and just be careful.

[NiteKids]

So what is everyone tripping about now?:confused:

[knghtryde]

I name something dumb. I want one person in here including yourself Dave to tell me when was the last time they saw someone walking down the street in the middle of an unresidential mountain road. I don't know about the rest of you I drift the Hills in San Jose. I've been drifting them for the last 7 years and I have never seen someone walking on them. There are no no sidewalks and in most points there aren't any houses for miles.

Second. If you're bitching about them risking their own lives. Everyone has the right to risk their own lives. What do you talk shi t to sky divers. they risk thier lives every time they jump out of a plan. Do you talk shi t to mountain climbers. The risk their lives every time they hit the walls.

Everything in life is a risk. Shiet I think I'm risking my sanity and life every time I go to work in the morning. One of my cars caught on fire cause of some idiot who didn't secure a barral of gasoline that was on the back of his work truck. I was in traffic going 15 miles per hour on the freeway.

I'm sorry but there are more accidents and more deaths in accidents that take place during rush hour then there are by racers and drifters.

So if you have kids I guess you should tell them to stay home cause the world isn't safe.

Go lock your a s s in your house and don't come out alright. You'd be doing the world a favor.

[240Dave]

I dono how the thing about someone walking on a mountian road got started...thats just dumb. Nobody would ever do that. When I talked about it before, I didn't specify what type of road and never meant to imply a mountian road. I don't know about nationwide but where I live it IS illegal to walk on certian roads because the risk is too high...regardless of the fact that you can trip and fall in your kitchen and break your neck.

Honestly, you guys do whatever you want...I don't much care if you risk yourself but I just don't understand how you can do it w/out risking someone elses at the same time.

What old_s13 said is cool. Driving should be fun and I don't know many people who always obey the speed limit but going 100mph is no where near safe for anybody. You fly off a cliff, fine, I hope you don't but whatever so long as you know what your getting yourself into. If you cross over the lines and hit someone head on around a curve or scare them into turning into a cliff wall, then we've got a problem.

I love driving mountian or country roads. very peacful, nice view and a fun drive especially with the windows down. But driving the mountians at breakneck speed, racing other cars is just dumb.

There are risks everywhere, you can die doing damn near anything...I think most people accept that but carry on anyway because if they didn't there would be no point in life. However when you raise the risk of injury to the people around you just for fun, then it becomes a problem. I'm not willing to accept the risk of someone crashing into me because they are goofing off. I don't know any normal person who would...

"I'm sorry but there are more accidents and more deaths in accidents that take place during rush hour then there are by racers and drifters."
Did cnn post statistics somewhere? Of the million people in my city driving to work every day, how many die each year? Now take a million people driving 100mph+ on public roads all over the US (however many cities/states it takes to get a million) do you honestly think there are more daily driving accidents? To really be accurate you'd have to view the ammount of time spent on each activity. For every 1,000 man hours spent driving like a normal person to and from work vs 1,000 man hours spent driving like a jackass on public roads I'd guess that the jackasses have a higher incident rate.
But until you or someone has done that, then your just talking out your ass.

knghtryde, correct me if I'm wrong, but what your saying is because there is risk in life, one should not bother even trying to reduce risk in any way.

[Dousan_PG]

http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/a/automobile_accidents_injury/stats.htm

Deaths from Automobile accidents injury: 42,401 deaths reported in USA 1999 for "motor vehicle accidents" (NVSR Sep 2001); 41,804 deaths in 2000 (CDC)


i DONT think 42,000 street racers died in 1999....

[240Dave]

Right, but there are more daily drivers than there are street racers so that number doesn't mean anything.

[Dousan_PG]

right
but more people die DAILY DRIVING, its a known fact.

42K people dont die in one week...there's 365 days in a year..do the math

if the same number died everyday, that's about 128 people day!

ill try and find some street racing stats and deaths.

here's some info from San Diego i pulled off freshalloy.com

Last year, San Diegans suffered the devastation of 16 deaths and 31 serious injuries that were directly related to illegal street racing. Three of those fatally injured were innocent bystanders. Most recent statistics show a staggering 49 people killed or seriously injured for every 1,000 who choose to illegal street race in San Diego.

Of the 59 people killed last year in San Diego City as a result of motor vehicle related crashes - 14% (8 deaths) were the direct result of illegal street racing activity.



and san diego has EXTREMELY high street racing problems. not every city does.

[240Dave]

Ok, according to that, nearly 20% of street racers in San Diego are killed or seriously injured.

Is 42,401 20% of the total population of the USA excluding those that street race? Not hardly. So street racing is still more dangerous...I can't believe anybody would argue against that.

But I’m just playing with the numbers I have, still far from accurate.

14% of automobile deaths in San Diego City could be avoided every year (assuming it's a constant number, which it probably isn't) if there were no street racers...wow, that’s depressing.

So yes when he said "I'm sorry but there are more accidents and more deaths in accidents that take place during rush hour then there are by racers and drifters." he was right but I'm saying the statement is no more relevant than saying more people die from smoking every year than they do street racing when trying to prove one is more dangerous than the other.

BTW, I never did get my original question answered...
"You know, one of our moderators was praised for calling the cops on a guy who drank 2 beers and drove...
Why is going triple digit speeds on public roads more acceptable?"

[Dousan_PG]

imho
more acceptible

triple digits

drunk drivers have impared thought and repsonse

at least a sober driver can claim full responsibility due to stupidity rather then a drunk driver who can blame alcohol and stupidity for their actions. and mostly the alcohol because they probably wouldnt have been in a accident if they were sober

neither are legal nor appropriate, but i would be more forgiving to a 3x digit speeder then a drunk driver if i was in court

and the courts agreee. look at punishment compared w/ drunk drivers to high speed traffic incidences.

[amolao]

I think the main idea here should that regardless of what you decide to do in life,i.e. naked bungy jumping, extreme bullfighting,etc...is to not jeopardize other people lives. :p :D ;)

[old_s13]

1) People who go sky-diving, DONT do it in heavily populated areas... hmmmm... such as HOLLYWOOD. Last time I checked, I've NEVER seen mothaphucka's sky diving in this part of the city in which I live in. Why? Because if there just HAPPEN to be any malfunctions, I think most city residents would be pretty upset seeing a dead nigga flying into their home. The closest I've been to an incident like this was a few months back when a small 4-seater plane crashed into an apartment building, exactly 2 blocks from my apartment. Same apartment, same corner.. just 2 blocks over. Lemme tell you, that plane crashed because of MALFUNCTION, not because the motha was doing loopdeeloops and stunts! :)

2) The difference between a DRUNK driver and a SPEEDER is that one person has absolutely no position to be behing the wheel. This is why they call it being "inebriated" -- because you have little to no control over your lame actions, whether you're walking, trying to mack on girls, or even driving a car.

3) While someone speeding MAY be considered wreckless, it all depends on HOW they were speeding. Cops have the right to impound cars and throw people in jail for "wreckless driving." If they catch you on an empty road hitting triple digits, in almost all cases they WONT mess you that bad.. they'll just give you a citation. Now if you were cutting through traffic and cutting people off, like my good friend Chris (SoCal) tends to do.. I am sure the cop will be even MORE upset, and REALLY throw the book at you.

4) Lets look at "drifting" for a second. Drifting is not a skill where a cop will say "Hey man, that was really cool.. nice style, I like your line and how you exit that turn" -- most cops dont understand that shit, they'de rather just tag your stupid ass with a reckless driving ticket and be on their way. Why? Because its not part of the culture like it is in Japan, nor is it really understood. People consider this form of driving almost "stunt driving." So while its gaining popularity, I am sure there will be a lot of HARD citations put on people who get cought experimenting on public roads.

When I drive fast on the highways, I go at my own pace. If there are people day dreaming in the fast lane, I get pissed off.. but I dont feel that I am the ONLY person on the road.. I have to respect it and other drivers which are not as capable as I am. So, just pass when the time is right and continue my "faster pace."

After 7 or so years of fixing up my car, I am getting to the point where all the stuff I WANT to do on the streets, I can no longer do. I WANT to go sliding through turns, but I dont wanna RISK possibly wrecking my car and flying into a rich persons house off of Mulholland Drive.

You guys should read some of the articles on Jason Priestley's life (and mistakes).. he lives/d out here in SoCal, and man he sure messed up his fancy car and his life by driving stupid. Here:

1) priestley divorces his new wife:
http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,5671,00.html

2) priestley wrecks his Porsche, probably racing the highly-skilled Mike Mamos, up in the hollywood hills:
http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,5692,00.html

3) priestley gets hit with a DUI and is sentenced:
http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,7658,00.html

4) priestley joins Kelley Race Team, but ironically has no drivers license due to his newly acquired DUI:
http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,9830,00.html

5) priestley smashes boat in race:
http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,9853,00.html

6) priestley smashes race car at 180MPH:
http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,10376,00.html

7) Lots of surgery and recovery:
http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,10398,00.html

priestley today:
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/2020/DailyNews/2020_priestley030131.html

How come I never heard about all this madness? Pretty crazy...

Here are some more pics and video footage:
http://wcpo.com/news/2002/local/08/12/priestly.html

[720_datsun]

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Last year, San Diegans suffered the devastation of 16 deaths and 31 serious injuries that were directly related to illegal street racing. Three of those fatally injured were innocent bystanders. Most recent statistics show a staggering 49 people killed or seriously injured for every 1,000 who choose to illegal street race in San Diego.

Of the 59 people killed last year in San Diego City as a result of motor vehicle related crashes - 14% (8 deaths) were the direct result of illegal street racing activity.

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yeah you also know how they get these numbers. if someone was speeding its put down as they were racing so they could push their little faggot rule through. i went to the street races every weekend and last year before the law was passed i saw kay 5 accidents and no deaths. what theyre trying to feed people is bull. o also raced on the freeway almost everynight never saw an accident for 2 years. so that report is bull saying its all street racing.

[knghtryde]

Last year here in San Jose there was a Geo metro going 89mph, and a camaro SS going the same rate right behind him. Traffic built up in front of him and he didn't have time to slow down so he slammed into the car in front of him the camaro then rammed the Geo Metro and the driver of the Metro was killed. The police accredited this accident to illegal street racing so they could add it to their list up here.

Come on. If anyone here thinks that these two guys where actually racing on the freeway. Leave now and forever hold your piece. This was just two people who didn't know how to drive and where speeding on the freeway.

Superdav dude. I'm sorry but all those numbers you're looking at. Actually read the articles on the accidents and 9 times out of 10 you will find that most of them where not related to racing they where just marked down that way by the police for political reasons. Cause I'm sorry but a Geo Metro Racing a Camero Supersport. Has anyone ever heard anything that stupid. And the Geo Metro Being in front of the Camaro Supersport.

[720_datsun]

Originally posted by knghtryde
Last year here in San Jose there was a Geo metro going 89mph, and a camaro SS going the same rate right behind him. Traffic built up in front of him and he didn't have time to slow down so he slammed into the car in front of him the camaro then rammed the Geo Metro and the driver of the Metro was killed. The police accredited this accident to illegal street racing so they could add it to their list up here.

Come on. If anyone here thinks that these two guys where actually racing on the freeway. Leave now and forever hold your piece. This was just two people who didn't know how to drive and where speeding on the freeway.

Superdav dude. I'm sorry but all those numbers you're looking at. Actually read the articles on the accidents and 9 times out of 10 you will find that most of them where not related to racing they where just marked down that way by the police for political reasons. Cause I'm sorry but a Geo Metro Racing a Camero Supersport. Has anyone ever heard anything that stupid. And the Geo Metro Being in front of the Camaro Supersport. exactly that what i said in my post its bs. fuckin honkey patrol.

[s13rookie]

1st problem: blah blah, youre wrong for racing on public roads, oh well, we ALL have done it. take it rural as you did and there are far less problems.
2nd problem: the people congratulating you on spanking a brand new m3, i call BS, "i was keeping up with it on the straightaway" or something like that. its possible, if the m3 driver WASNT racing.


basically you raced like an ass on public roads, your lucky to be alive and you boasted about beating a car FAR superior to your own, what type of feedback did you expect?