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integra08
03-17-2011, 04:51 PM
I'm finally going to build a car from the ground up and want to do it right.I have already removed the sound deadening and want to put one back in but lighter.I've been looking into a product called lizardskin.Has anyone used it or suggestions?

Kemps
03-17-2011, 05:12 PM
is this car going to be tracked or daily driven?

ixfxi
03-17-2011, 05:34 PM
light sound deadening is more or less a catch22. if you want sound deadening, it requires adding some material thickness (tar/rubber) or insulation.

Broadfield
03-17-2011, 06:19 PM
Like Mike noted, good sound deadening is going to be heavier than crappy sound deadening. It's just how it works... more mass, less resonation.

I have carried all of the big name brands of sound deadening at some point or another in the last 19 years. So far I prefer Second Skin the best. Their Damplifier Pro is a tad thicker than the Dynamat extreme... and it's anodized black. Which is very helpful in the car audio world where you can see through the OEM speaker grill. Otherwise you see all of this shiny silver sound deadening. I don't have to paint it or cover it with close cell foam just to hide the silver.

Check them out and let me know if you need any pricing:

Sound Deadening Materials for Noise Reduction from Second Skin (http://www.secondskinaudio.com/index.php)

dtfdanyo
03-17-2011, 07:12 PM
RAAMAT is awesome. I have used it in all of my cars and it's very easy to work with.

Here is there website
RAAMaudio (http://www.raamaudio.com/)

integra08
03-17-2011, 07:19 PM
Its going to be a daily driven car once it is done..I had done some research on the dynomat and everyone said that it didn't make that much of a differnence

ixfxi
03-17-2011, 10:35 PM
i tried sound deadening years ago and i felt that it was the biggest waste of time. in hot weather, shit runs since its tar based and makes a mess. the foil gets scratched and then you have tar everywhere. its like tar and feathering your car, its horrible.

nowadays, if im going to do any sound deadening i will look for something that bonds and cures, similar to an undercoating. i will also rely on insulation to help cancel the unwanted noise.

Farkel
03-17-2011, 10:37 PM
Don't be a pussy and just embrace the noise. Rattles are character traits. If you're doing this for your sound system, just turn up the volume. I know this because I am an expert, you can trust me.

rebornS14
03-17-2011, 10:39 PM
Sound Deadening Materials for Noise Reduction from Second Skin (http://www.secondskinaudio.com/index.php)


second skin is good stuff. nothing else like it on the market.

ixfxi
03-17-2011, 11:15 PM
Don't be a pussy and just embrace the noise. Rattles are character traits. If you're doing this for your sound system, just turn up the volume. I know this because I am an expert, you can trust me.

funny


i didnt have a stereo for the longest in my s13. i think it was 1997 when i had a full stereo. since the sr20det, its been nothing but spool.

Broadfield
03-17-2011, 11:19 PM
i tried sound deadening years ago and i felt that it was the biggest waste of time. in hot weather, shit runs since its tar based and makes a mess. the foil gets scratched and then you have tar everywhere. its like tar and feathering your car, its horrible.

nowadays, if im going to do any sound deadening i will look for something that bonds and cures, similar to an undercoating. i will also rely on insulation to help cancel the unwanted noise.

That old crap was tar based, as I'm sure some of the cheap crap is today. Newer sound deadening like the Second Skin Damplifier line and the Dynamat Extreme are all butyle rubber. They will never sag even on a vertical surface and are good up to 300 degrees believe it or not.

jeffary
03-18-2011, 03:56 AM
I'm also thinking about this..
How about that unbranded dynamat stuff (insulation)??

Reccomendations, best bang for buck?

sidewaysil80
03-18-2011, 05:45 AM
Anyone ever heard of the quiet car paint? I'm thinking of spraying a few coats, 1. I could easily paint over it and 2. I could spray it in every nook and cranny of the car/panels. I am just hesitant on whether or not it works.

holemilk00
03-18-2011, 08:15 AM
Sorry my build thread isn't good enough for chat yet, but I'm in the middle of doing this. After one more week I will be able to give you actually weights of all the factory sound deadening, and the weight of the dynamat and dynapad that will be back in the car. It was also painted with a Rust Bullet, which should help with sound, as well as a Durabak bedliner and stay quiet paint. Here is the progress so far.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/holemilk00/Trevor%20Build/IMG_4976.jpg

azsr20det
03-18-2011, 04:31 PM
i removed my sound deadening sanded painted and readded carpet.
its not that bad.
if your that worried about sound why not just keep the stock exhaust and not build it to be a fast ass car?

fckillerbee
03-18-2011, 07:02 PM
I know this because I am an expert, you can trust me.


hmmmm.....your giving me candy out of a big red van and you want me to come inside....












SURE!!...what's inside? lol