Intresting info about people going for the "drift" look

[NiteKids]

Here's some intresting info I learned:

Wagan Wings:

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Wangan Wings (high speed highway racing wings) were popular back in the late 80's or was it early 90's on cars to provide downforce for high speed racing. Of coures GT wings have yet to exsist yet in this time periord. When drifting became popular in the early 90's in Japan these style wings were already outdated and unpopular. Reason for finding these wings on many drift cars was because drifters wanted to make their cars stand out but are too poor to buy anything. So being that Wangan wings were unpopular and outdated -they could buy one for their car for 60 to 100 bucks. Sure they were outdated and don't make much sense for a drift car but they were cheap is what mattered! Thats where the "Wangan Drift Wing" came about.

Mismatched wheels:

The mismatched wheels for drifting often wasn't done because it was the cool thing to do but it simply was drifters are poor. Buying two wheels is obviousisly cheaper then buying four of them. Of course this wasn't the case for everyone. This style can be found here in the states too often found on Honda civics w/ the nice wheels in the rear and stealies in the front.

Its slighty Ironic for those going for the "drift" look here in the states because in Japan the "drift look" was all due to lack of funds. :D

[240Stilo]

People are still poor so things haven't changed.;)

[720_datsun]

<<<<<< very poor.

[NZO]

Well yes it makes sense. Most 240 owners are cheap bastards so 'drift style' ghettoness works great for them.

"Man I see you got those mismatched side skirts; drifting accident?"
"No actually im just cheap errr....yea, drifting!"

[Sil Beer S13]

Well i dont know about the wing thing but about the wheel thing. Actually alot of drifters had a whole set. Tires are expensive and so are rims. So they used either stock or smaller rims on the rear because the tires for the smaller wheels are a lot cheaper. So it makes sense if you think about it.

[revat619]

Originally posted by NZO
Well yes it makes sense. Most 240 owners are cheap bastards so 'drift style' ghettoness works great for them.


:bowdown:

Amen to that!

But then again, i'm poor so i dont really have that much of a choice. ;)

[Nerfdude]

Originally posted by NZO
Well yes it makes sense. Most 240 owners are cheap bastards so 'drift style' ghettoness works great for them.

"Man I see you got those mismatched side skirts; drifting accident?"
"No actually im just cheap errr....yea, drifting!"


lol... that's how i explain EVERYTHING.
"how'd you dent your muffler?"
"drifting."
"why are your shocks all messed up?"
"drifting."
"well, why are the passenger fender and door different colors?"
"drifting."
"ok.. why are your tc bushings shot?"
"drifting."
"and the brakes?"
"drifting."
"what about the-"
"DRIFTING."

and since it's a 240, everyone actually BELIEVES me...

[Zemus]

I think the wheels thing is true and not true, mismatched wheels are normaly when you have an extra set just for drifting, or their other 2 wheels have no tires or somthing. Thats my problem, im going to soon be buying me 3rd SET of wheels, and ill use those for the back when drifting, along with my 90' stock alloys.

[wylin]

how ironic nitekids educating people amazing how things change.

go nitekids from newbie ----> wannabe jdm master

[FRpilot]

interesting info you posted nightkids. seemed feasable. you forgoet to add how whole sil80 thing started due to lack of funds also . since japanese drifters were poor, the popups w/ motor were more expensive than the s13 silvia front end, so they bought those isntead since it was cheaper and bolted right up. thats how the sil80 fad came to be.

[Andrew Bohan]

i'm so poor, my wheels all match

i can't even afford half of another set

[logo20]

it's raining today and I'm drifting all over the streets.
I'm so ****ing cool! :rolleyes: :fawk:

[zombieman]

i'm another cheapskate bastard. i don't even drift with performance rims. i'm doing all 4 sides on donuts, no wing for downforce at all because i can't afford it. i don't buy new tires until it's completely bald and when it does goes bald, i go get a set of rear tires at the used tires center for $20 each.

[DudeYourSoOOJDM]

If you actually drift your car, you either end up w/ beat up parts on it, or have a lot of money to spend.....

I burn through a set of rear tires quite often.... Am I a "drifter" because I have to buy new tires every other month....nope.

Just because you have a wangay wing and mismatched wheels doesen't mean your a drifter. Just because you have the newest "dori boring" body kit doesen't mean your a drifter..... Just because you have an SR doesen't mean crap.

It's all about going out there and learning, Driving your car. Not being scared about putting it in the dirt. It's a sport, and in order to be part of it, you have to actually do it. No matter how much Initial D you watch, it aint gonna help.

So what if Club4AG charges $100 for track days, and has enough money left over to rent 3 motorhomes....try it once at least.

[NiteKids]

I wasn't talking about people here but just a lil history in Japan that I learend.

[old_s13]

Originally posted by wylin
how ironic nitekids educating people amazing how things change.

go nitekids from newbie ----> wannabe jdm master

I think NiteKids has gone a long way.

He used to be stupid, but that was just a hoax. Then he started teasing super finicky moderators, awesome.

If you ask me, he can pass for old-school.

[zenkiDori]

i have mismatched wheels because i wore out the rear tires on one set of wheels. that's a big reason for the mismatched wheel thing. function. if you do these things just for the drifter "look" you are an uber loser.

[720_datsun]

Originally posted by zenkiDori
i have mismatched wheels because i wore out the rear tires on one set of wheels. that's a big reason for the mismatched wheel thing. function. if you do these things just for the drifter "look" you are an uber loser. yeah i think thats why alot of people have mismatched ones. the rear ones wear out so they toss a diff set on while the others are getting tires

[720_datsun]

i also just thought of something. maybe the drifters started drifting cause they could afford to make those huge powerfull racing machines? just a thought.

[KiDyNomiTe]

Originally posted by old_s13

If you ask me, he can pass for old-school.

blah, none of us are old school, we are all new school. messing with 5-14 year old cars.

In 5 -10 years we will be old school, but most of us would have left the game of 240s, and either quit cars in general, or moved on to better cars.

[DuffMan]

Originally posted by old_s13

If you ask me, he can pass for old-school.

Maybe he's old-school, but I still think he takes the short bus to get there.

[240Dave]

I don't understand...
This is the dumbest post I've ever seen. Nitekids, do you ever even try to think for yourself? do you care about anything other than looks and what people think about you?

Give me a break :rolleyes:

Why does everybody eat this **** up? Does it really taste that good? damn...

[Andrew Bohan]

i never once thought the drifter look was a style...just what happens when you don't have money

and it looks to me like nitekids isn't trying to justify himself or anything... just talking about drifters in japan in general and why their cars are the way they are

[revat619]

Originally posted by DuffMan
Maybe he's old-school, but I still think he takes the short bus to get there.

:rofl: hahahahahahaha!

[brianglawson]

kidynomite: i dont know about you but in 10-15 years i plan to have my 240sx sittin in my garage still being built better and better right beside my 240z

[mbmbmb23]

Originally posted by brianglawson
kidynomite: i dont know about you but in 10-15 years i plan to have my 240sx sittin in my garage still being built better and better right beside my 240z



Yep. My 93 hatch is probably one of the most mint I've seen...therefore I'm treating it as a classic and will have it as my toy once I can afford a newer daily driver. Nothing wrong with holding onto your 240sx if its worth keeping (great shape, etc).



-m

[KiDyNomiTe]

Wow you guys are troopers. I plan on keeping my car for a bit out of college, so around 5 years, probably buy a second car somewhere in the middle.

I know I will get sick of the 240 once I get to a point where I am "finished". The only thing that would keep me from selling it, is if I find another good swap to do, but I have always wanted to buy a 240Z. And just about any engine I can put in a 240sx can be put in a 240Z.

Plus I have always wanted a 2.5 RS. And also wanted an SC300, so many cars I want but can't afford, and I am not gonna stick with the 240 all my life.

I will probably look like someone jumping on bandwagons, but tough sh*t, I'll do what I want.

[SimpleS14]

240SX owners are one of these:

*cheap

*poor

*rich (or can handle money)

*not on ANY 240SX online forum


I claim to be the second one. My unpainted BLACK fender is not attractive and I painted my rims BLACK since I have no money for new tires for my K1's. Girls hate the black fender and rims. :(

[DudeYourSoOOJDM]

I'm pretty sure I'll be keeping my 240 as long as possible.

I haven't gotten bored of looking at it for 13 years.....what's another 20 or so more?

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when drifting started 15 years ago in japan. they all had matching set of wheels... drifters crashing and denting rims often that's why most of the time they end up with a pair... or the car crash and sent to the yard. people buy what's left that's how they end up with a pair. but at one time... those pairs that you see are actually a set that was broken by someone.

[oberkill]

Drifting is Japan is as diverse as the streetracing scene is here. You have the guys who love it and will do whatever it takes to keep a car on the road to do it. You have the posers who set their car up for drift, go to the drift spots every weekend but never do much more than powerslide a few corners. You have the guys with some skill and a big bank account drifting $40,000 cars with little regard to anything. etc.... It run the complete gambit. When I lived in Japan the drifters would use several places near where we drag raced and would sometimes drift on the "stip" if nothing else was going on. I saw it all from the bad ass to the hilarious. Hell I even saw my dumb A** out there trying not to crash!!

Most drift clubs have a chase vehicle of some sort with a few sets of rims in it. If not then they carried them in the back of their car. Even the expensive cars will normally take their good rims off the rear and run something that they dont care about.

So there is no set drifter look and the whole 2 sets of rims thing is compeltly dependent on the car owner. Now here in the US it seems if you run two differant set of rims then all of a sudden you are a drifter. I ran and still run all kinds of crazy crap just trying to get enough rubber on the road, and still clear coilovers/Z32 brakes.

The only thing you need for a drifter look is a few dents and worn rear tires! Cheapest fad out there, just wear down some tires and crash into some stuff and your there!!!!!!!!

Alan

[DoriftoSlut]

Originally posted by oberkill
Drifting is Japan is as diverse as the streetracing scene is here. You have the guys who love it and will do whatever it takes to keep a car on the road to do it. You have the posers who set their car up for drift, go to the drift spots every weekend but never do much more than powerslide a few corners. You have the guys with some skill and a big bank account drifting $40,000 cars with little regard to anything. etc.... It run the complete gambit. When I lived in Japan the drifters would use several places near where we drag raced and would sometimes drift on the "stip" if nothing else was going on. I saw it all from the bad ass to the hilarious. Hell I even saw my dumb A** out there trying not to crash!!

Most drift clubs have a chase vehicle of some sort with a few sets of rims in it. If not then they carried them in the back of their car. Even the expensive cars will normally take their good rims off the rear and run something that they dont care about.

So there is no set drifter look and the whole 2 sets of rims thing is compeltly dependent on the car owner. Now here in the US it seems if you run two differant set of rims then all of a sudden you are a drifter. I ran and still run all kinds of crazy crap just trying to get enough rubber on the road, and still clear coilovers/Z32 brakes.

The only thing you need for a drifter look is a few dents and worn rear tires! Cheapest fad out there, just wear down some tires and crash into some stuff and your there!!!!!!!!

Alan
Jeez, this post and Charlie's are the only ones that frickin make sense on this whole thread. Im glad to see that someone has the patience to write all that informative stuff and present it in a way that is cohesive and elegant. I was GOING to go for the..ahem... "All you mother fcukers, you are the ones that are the ball lickers! We are going to make you eat our shiit. Then **** that out, and eat that ****, which is really your shiit made out of our shiit that you already ate..." kind of approach. But I am too lazy... So Driftheaven and Oberkill, glasses up!

Oh yeah, Nitekids is uber old skool gangsta. His house is surrounded by like 12 ultra million dollar Columbian style druglord homes. Nitekids should change his name to Tony since Henry isn't Gangsta enough. And your last name... Montoya, Mendoza, Hernandez, Suarez, etc... then you can tell people what is or isn't Drifta, and shoot them if they disagree. Then take their wheels... but only 2... or maybe only 1. You could dictate that thenew drifta style is a different wheel every corner. And maybe even varying sizes and offsets and diameters... UBer coolness. Then you would not be old skool, but rather new school as well... So Henry... basically, sell me 2 of your Fn01RC's.... hehheh

[808Supra]

hum....well...

Im not rich, nor am I poor. I have 20 (4 sets of 4, 2 sets of 2) rims and all of them but 4 have tires on them, and thats because I am working on cleaning them/ fixing them. The reason I have different rims on the front and back some times is because:

A) After an event Im just to dang lazy to put on my "street" rims.

B) I get home from the event with said drift rims, and just get to lazy in general to change them and they stay on till I go put tires on them befor the next event.

C) I know that some time in the week I am going to go out to mess around, and really dont feel like changing my rims out all the time.

D) I have blown all the other tires on all the other rims and Im down to just 4 rims... which has happend :D

basicly it comes down to I am just a lazy bastard...

[Warwick5s]

Originally posted by Dorifto180sx
"All you mother fcukers, you are the ones that are the ball lickers! We are going to make you eat our shiit. Then **** that out, and eat that ****, which is really your shiit made out of our shiit that you already ate..." kind of approach. But I am too lazy... So Driftheaven and Oberkill, glasses up!


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[old_s13]

Originally posted by KiDyNomiTe
blah, none of us are old school, we are all new school. messing with 5-14 year old cars.

In 5 -10 years we will be old school, but most of us would have left the game of 240s, and either quit cars in general, or moved on to better cars.

I am old_S13, I am old_school.. biatch. :)

[NiteKids]

Originally posted by Dorifto180sx
So Henry... basically, sell me 2 of your Fn01RC's.... hehheh

How did I know it would boil down to that? haha

You never fail to crack me up!

[DoriftoSlut]

Originally posted by NiteKids
How did I know it would boil down to that? haha

You never fail to crack me up!
What wheels are you getting anyways? I already forgot...17x7 ADR's??

*knock knock*
Who is it!?
*Houskeeping... Would you like me to cut your pizza?
Uhh, no thanks, Im fine
*knock knock*
*Houskeeping... would you like me to jerk you off?*
WHAT IN THE HELL KIND OF HOTEL IS THIS!?!?!?

Are you donating your Azenis when I buy your wheels, btw??? Not to get off the subject or anything...

[mibre]

About the wheel thing, I don't see the problem, I know this has already been said but just gonna put my point of view on it. nice wheels = lots of $, last thing you wanna do is mess them up. so most drifters get a cheap set for events, fun or why ever. and most of the time the rear wheels will have worn rubber or cheap tires cause most of us can't afford ripping the new falcon's or what ever you have on them cause after one event they're prety worn out. plus worn or no grip rubber means you don't have to have as much power to light them up... so this explains alot.

thats my 2 cents