S15 Import and Legalization

[aznpoopy]

Before you flame, read.

"The Orange County, California-based registered importer [JDM Evolution] plans to legalize the Skyline's sexier little sister, the Nissan Silvia. Some readers make recognize the name, not only is most of the IGN staff in love with the damn car, we've done our best to turn our U.S.-spec 240SX into a Silvia or, in our case, a Sxilvia."

Link:
http://cars.ign.com/articles/438/438272p1.html

BTW, that SXilvia they wrote about was posted on this website a little while ago. It's the one that got egged in the FMIC. Also, this quote pissed me off.

"On the inside the new S15 Silvia really kicks the crap out of the 1995-1998 Nissan 240SX. This looks like 40K+ car, not a $20K me-too, two-door like the 240SX."

Anyone want to write hate mail to the author like me? I usually read IGN.com for video game news. I always considered their 'cars' section to be extremely rice. Thoughts?

[NiteKids]

Haha! I'm the first one to reply!:o

[aznpoopy]

damnit say something meaningful! i got all excited someone replied for nothing! :mad:

:hammer:

[NiteKids]

Acually there is a new company in Socal (yes socal believe or not out of ALL places!;)) that showed up at the last 240SX.org BBQ. I believe they were out to advertise what they were legalizing. They had a S15 non Spec R, R33 GTST which looks really weird and and R32 which I dunno if was a GTR or not.

[russian]

i think its a bunch of bull****. it will cost too much regardless. they would never make up even a normal profit per car (investments=sales), so why would anyone do it.

[mrmephistopheles]

'something meaningful'

hahah I didn't know Tyrone wrote for IGN!

[Dousan_PG]

hes friends with that company i think

hehe..

they are really nice guys too. very friendly. good luck to them


woot! at least someone has a brain in their noggin!


Some readers have related the Silvia's corner-centric taillights akin to a Grand Am. We disagree with this generalization

[mrmephistopheles]

hoooly crap
just went to their site.
That is EASILY the most annoying flash intro i've EVER seen.
And no content? wth?

[SilviaDriver]

Originally posted by NiteKids
They had a S15 non Spec R,

hrm..a non Spec R. that would be a Spec S

yea the flash is pretty annoying.

y? becuz it doesnt fully load befoer it plays

i liked how it said "knowledgeable staff" and it shows pics of a not so bad look girl. haha

[NiteKids]

Originally posted by Tyrone Rodriguez
we've done our best to turn our U.S.-spec 240SX into a Silvia or, in our case, a Sxilvia.



Mother Fuxkin Peice of Shyt! :rolleyes:

I fuxki hate that phrase Silvia conversion. It doesn't even make sense and there is no such thing as a "Silvia Conversion."

Silvia is just the name of the car In Japan and denotes many generations of the car. Silvia which comes in J's, Q's and K's models. Hell any one could slap in a jdm tyte "silvia motor" sr20DE Q's model NA motor have the "Sylvia" motor but then again it wouldn't be any faster then teh KA with it's 140HP. :rolleyes:

Fux I hate mainstream america and this "silvia conversion" bull Shixt.

OH yeah all these people doing "Silvia conversions" in the states. Oh wait just chage the badge and it's a Silvia! Acually why yes it is! Because Silvia isn't a trim like Type R. It's just a name. I mean I can understand K's convrsion but "SILVIA CONVERSION?" Come on! GHEY!

Oh yeah I hear homos all sayin "you gotta back up the silvia name to sport the badge" well you sack of shxt the silvia name isn't a trim that claims 20000000 hp. Maybe if our trying to do a K's converison I could understand......

Okay I'm done. ****

[NiteKids]

Silva Conversion should be(speaking of motor)

K's conversion (unless otherwise noted)

------
"are you gonna put a Silvia front end on the your car?"

If you own a S14 you should be like..****in homo it already is fag:rolleyes:

240hatch: "uh why....it's a 180SX body why would I want Silvia face on it"

240 coupe: "Nah I like my 180sx front end"
-----------

"when you gonna get teh silvia motor DOGG!?"
"i'm getting the 180SX motor acually"
:o

pepole are so confused dumb and mislead ****i magazines piss me off!

[MorganS13]

i vote for it costing as much as importing an R32.. which would you rather have?

[sykikchimp]

So much Anger lately from Nitekids..

[91CRXsiR]

its because his mother didn't love him :D hahah

[kazuo]

I'll believe it when I see it.

And when I see it, I'll buy one.

I agree with nitekids about the 'Silvia/180SX' stuff... people need to stop being retarded, both the types who ask hatchback owners about Silvia conversions, and anal-retentive people who insist that hatchbacks aren't 180SX because they dont have the "JDM" motor or cus they're RHD or cus the chassis code says like "RHS" instead of "RPS" or whatever...

**** y'all.

If it has popups and a hatchback trunk, its a ****ing 180SX.

If it has fixed headlights and a regular trunk, its a ****ing Silvia.

If it has popups and a regular trunk, its a ****ing Onevia.

Do you call a "240SX Fastback" with a Silvia front end a "Silforty"?

Didn't think so.

I'm done.

:Owned:

[boro240]

Originally posted by kazuo
**** y'all.

If it has popups and a hatchback trunk, its a ****ing 180SX.

If it has fixed headlights and a regular trunk, its a ****ing Silvia.

If it has popups and a regular trunk, its a ****ing Onevia.

Do you call a "240SX Fastback" with a Silvia front end a "Silforty"?

Didn't think so.

I'm done.

:Owned:
you can change whatever you want on the car. it will always be a 240SX.

[cali240sxdrifter]

getting on back on the topic, when would they start selling the S15 and HOW much. Since the S15 isn't as extreme as the Skyline it shouldn't be that much expensive nor that cheap either. Am hoping for a good 25-35K range (which I highly doubt it) but I guess we'll see. I'd get whatever S15 package model it won't matter to me, its a S15 for the love of god.
Maybe with the S15 coming, maybe the SR would get legalized too *shurgs*:confused: .

[jojothemonkey]

I just call the car either S13, S14 or S15. The heck with calling it all that other crap, its just simlplier. My 2cents

[NZO]

Originally posted by aznpoopy
Also, this quote pissed me off.

"On the inside the new S15 Silvia really kicks the crap out of the 1995-1998 Nissan 240SX. This looks like 40K+ car, not a $20K me-too, two-door like the 240SX."

If youve ever been in an s15 you'd know this is true ;)

First, it's the never-ending setup for jokes ending with the punchline, "Actually, I'm driving on the right side."

So true :p

Pretty good article although it doesnt tell us anything we want to know. Anyway, itll be interesting to see if this all comes to fruition or if theyre just another poser company making claims and playing games.

[zenkiDori]

it should end up costing about $20k. my friend who has already picked his out is going to pay $18k, i dunno if it's from the same place.

time to sell all my posessions.

[cali240sxdrifter]

Originally posted by zenkiDori
it should end up costing about $20k. my friend who has already picked his out is going to pay $18k, i dunno if it's from the same place.

time to sell all my posessions.

WTF!! are you serious?! 20k for everything? or is that just the cost of the car without the legal papers and such? What company is he getting it from?

[zenkiDori]

it was registered and smogged when he bought it. it was a spec S i believe.

[nissan slut]

:bs:

[SimpleS14]

I will believe it when I see it....




esspecially out here on the east coast. :cool:

[drift freaq]

for that price I could buy a R32 or even a used 350z. Not going to be worth it folks plain and simple.

[ridebmx]

i dunno, for 20k(assuming i had that kind of money on hand)i would rather just invest in my car, blah your still getting a used car are you not? plus you have to start from scratch, but then again i am interupting this from a 240sx owners view. not only that, what happens if you need a fender or some body panels or the like? are these companys going to have parts in stock for you? I dunno, the worst thing about all the jdm cars being imported is what it costs and your still getting a used car, then if you ever need parts, alot of places arent going to have parts and you are gonna have to order from japan and get high prices, i dunno i guess i live in phucking BFE and i just dont see the sense in it.....but to each there own, right?

[CleanS14]

Like a few guys on here are saying... I'll believe it when I see it... some on this board know what I went through to get my cousin's SpecR over here from when he was in the AF... that was a big headache only to end up selling it in the end...

BUT... seriously if it happens I will sell some of my stock options and buy 2 hahahahaahaha! :D

[wylin]

Originally posted by sykikchimp
So much Anger lately from Nitekids..

yah nitekids has been angry alot recently? maybe sumthing to do w/ his sister moving back in or his "man feelings" being offended by tyrone.

[wylin]

Originally posted by iEATrice
Like a few guys on here are saying... I'll believe it when I see it... some on this board know what I went through to get my cousin's SpecR over here from when he was in the AF... that was a big headache only to end up selling it in the end...

BUT... seriously if it happens I will sell some of my NVIDIA options and but 2 hahahahaahaha! :D

better fix the Geforce fx 5900's performance in half-life 2 b4 ya bank on dem options =P. ATI performance is so much better in most resolutions in HL2!!!

[cali240sxdrifter]

Originally posted by wylin
better fix the Geforce fx 5900's performance in half-life 2 b4 ya bank on dem options =P. ATI performance is so much better in most resolutions in HL2!!!

Ha, give GeForce a break, just wait until they release their .50 drivers. I heard it was suppose to fix the frame rate on HL2, but like the theme of this topic, will believe it when I see it haha.

[CleanS14]

:rolleyes: If you understood options fully... you'd know that it doesn't matter at this point considering *someone* could have got their options at .002 cents... and is fully vested... let's see we only split ummm 3 times and ummm at one point we hit a 100 so.... blah blah... lets just say I sold at the right time and still got lots to play with... just hate them capital gains :bash:

Anyways where are you getting your information? We have been working closely with game developers to ensure we have the best quality/performance on games... please wait until Issue21 of PCMag is released to make your judgements... the 5900 Ultra will beat any ATI product at full on 16x12 full AA full Aniso... this aint a techy forum or thread... but if you gonna run at the "most" crappy resolutions then buy some crappy ATI board :D

[wylin]

Originally posted by iEATrice
:rolleyes: If you understood options fully... you'd know that it doesn't matter at this point considering *someone* could have got their options at .002 cents... and is fully vested... let's see we only split ummm 3 times and ummm at one point we hit a 100 so.... blah blah... lets just say I sold at the right time and still got lots to play with... just hate them capital gains :bash:

Anyways where are you getting your information? We have been working closely with the game developers for HL to ensure we have the best quality/performance on that game... please wait until Issue21 of PCMag is released to make your judgements... NVIDIA will beat any ATI product at full on 16x12 full AA full Aniso... this aint a techy forum or thread... but if you gonna run at the "most" crappy resolutions then buy some crappy ATI board :D

http://firingsquad.gamers.com/hardware/hl2_performance_preview_part2/default.asp

http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/20030912/index.html

=P just messing w/ u jay. I myself am waiting for the 5900's replacement since im not picking up a new processor/ board/ graphics card till the new intel socket is out.

[cali240sxdrifter]

Originally posted by iEATrice
Anyways where are you getting your information? We have been working closely with game developers to ensure we have the best quality/performance on games... please wait until Issue21 of PCMag is released to make your judgements... the 5900 Ultra will beat any ATI product at full on 16x12 full AA full Aniso... this aint a techy forum or thread... but if you gonna run at the "most" crappy resolutions then buy some crappy ATI board :D

point exacly, am stickin with my 5900 all the way!

[CleanS14]

Grrr haha I know Will... but I'm in Sales here so it's a instinctive habit to fire back like that LOL!!! :p

We love those loyal NVIDIA fans!!!

Back to the topic... I seriously want an S15!!! Bring it over so I can buy it... but it better be resonably priced :cool:

[tyrone]

Originally posted by NiteKids
Mother Fuxkin Peice of Shyt! :rolleyes:

I fuxki hate that phrase Silvia conversion. It doesn't even make sense and there is no such thing as a "Silvia Conversion."

Silvia is just the name of the car In Japan and denotes many generations of the car. Silvia which comes in J's, Q's and K's models. Hell any one could slap in a jdm tyte "silvia motor" sr20DE Q's model NA motor have the "Sylvia" motor but then again it wouldn't be any faster then teh KA with it's 140HP. :rolleyes:

Fux I hate mainstream america and this "silvia conversion" bull Shixt.

OH yeah all these people doing "Silvia conversions" in the states. Oh wait just chage the badge and it's a Silvia! Acually why yes it is! Because Silvia isn't a trim like Type R. It's just a name. I mean I can understand K's convrsion but "SILVIA CONVERSION?" Come on! GHEY!

Oh yeah I hear homos all sayin "you gotta back up the silvia name to sport the badge" well you sack of shxt the silvia name isn't a trim that claims 20000000 hp. Maybe if our trying to do a K's converison I could understand......

Okay I'm done. ****

Hank,

What the fukk is your problem you little bitch. I'm tempted to beat the shiit out of your free-loading, rich-bitch ass next time I see you. Learn to fukking spell the word conversion, at least.

And while you're at it, why don't you actually learn about cars and the Silvia before your start spitting out ridiculous gibberish? Anyone can go on fagalloy and look up info. It appears you learned how to use the "search" function and wanted to impress us with your mastery.

You are fukking "mainstream" America with all your knock-off bodykit. Where in this statement, "We've done our best to turn our U.S.-spec 240SX into a Silvia or, in our case, a Sxilvia." do I mention the word conversion?

Are you stupid as you are cheap? What would you have people call a full front end conversion then, oh great-and-insightful-master-of-import-automotive-terms? Please tell us, bitch. What's a better term, please let us know, we're in the dark.

Last time I checked you haven't done shiit to your car and I don't really know why. Then again it could be because you don't know how to drive. Didn't you almost crashed someone's SR-powered S13 when they unknownly gave you the chance to get behind the wheel?

Do you have a bone to pick with me or people in general? You should really do it in person. I'm sick of you talking shiit about people behind their backs. Maybe you should watch your own. Go back to school little boy.

[CleanS14]

Wow now that's anger!!! Grrr... BTW thanks for never responding to my interest in your coils when you said you were going to sell them to me Tyrone!!! I drove all the way down to SoCal... called your ass and you never called me to say you didn't want to sell at least... it's cool... I had a good time in SoCal... and still got some Comp2R's LOL!!!

Now let's see what NiteKids has to say... :p

[wylin]

what nitekids will or should say.

- nitekids voice -

sorry tyrone, I said that outa jealousy (and a sprinkle of ADD)...since I am your biggest fan and groupie, please forgive me!

Lets be friends...like me and my bumper

- nitekids voice end -

:aw: :aw: :aw:

[old_s13]

I dunno... I dunno...

I read this article thinking the usual "lets see what the author of this article has to say." Here is the problem, the more I read into the article the more upset I got. This ALWAYS seems to happen when I read crap-mags like Super Sport Import Compact Street Car Racer. It doesnt matter if I just skim through the pictures of the cars, OR, if I read the articles.. I always get pissed off. Why? Because the writers of these articles are clueless about cars. They dont work on cars, they dont understand cars, and they sure as hell dont know how to drive them. Instead, I read about how the sun rose with a beautiful yellow.. and that yellow was the color of this NEW S15 Silvia! Unlike the USDM 240SX, the SILVIA does not have a truck motor.. it has the all-powerful SR20DET! WOW!

Basically, every US magazine always over-glamourizes their articles. They dont talk REAL specs, they just write as if every modification IS an increase in performance AND better them OEM. That doesnt happen in European or Japanese magazines, they usually talk about both the PROS and CONS. NO, in the US.. they know you dont know better, so they just spoon-feed you some bull**** on a plate as if bigger is always better, and as if turbo is holy, and how NOS is superior.. I mean the shiet never stops. This is why we have all these gay ass fiberglass coated cars at the shows. This is why we have all these jacka/ss newbies joining this forum, catching feelings when we dont want to give them advice and call them idiots for wanting parts that are the latest trend. No one takes the time to read, research, or even work on their car -- they pay to get everything done because they are inept and not mechanically inclined. What they ARE, however, are people who love to gloat about what they have and what they recently paid for. Soon enough, we will see plenty of 21 year old kids who got a loan from their parents and bought an S15 Silvia because it was COOL.

As I was reading the article, I was looking at the header to see WHO the author was.. nothing. I gave the article MORE of a chance and started skimming more and more.. finally I got to the end and just before I was going to wipe my ass with it, I saw your name Tyrone.

- Calling the KA a truck motor is wrong, YOU should already know that -- the truck KA was detuned and made in Mexico.

- The 350Z headlamps DO very much resemble the Celica headlamps. Very much like the S15 tail lamps very much DO resemble the Grand Am tail lamps.

I dont think the S15 looks better OR worse than the S13 or S14, I think it looks different. It has its own look, and should be appreciated for that. The car definately LOOKS like a low-priced sports-car, nothing over 30k, thats for sure.

Tyrone, you know I have no beef with you.. but this article just had too many quotes in it that just pissed me off.

[tyrone]

[tyrone]

joopac, is that you?

I see you signature, no name, no identity--it must be you. I sense it's the 2-1 redline, downshifting king. But I could be wrong

The poor Mexico-built KA could not last a redline from second into one.

Sad was the day you killed the KA, it was a good motor. I knew it well, it lasted long..

Will you do the same to your SR or will you learn to shift before you drive; naw, the engine, it's done?

Oh, but oh, maybe, only maybe can the LED clearcorners save the day.

Or maybe you're just gay?

-ty

[swifty949]

i and tyrone may be new to this forum, but not new to the scene.

I think everyone is reading way too much into the article. Look at the freaking website, it's IGN for pete's sake. An ENTERTAINMENT Website. Do you think a engineering 101 thesis on the S15 will be posted on there?

Instead of counting the number of posts you have by your name compared to others, why not go out and go get laid? A lot of people on this board have no clue... I see bashing of well respected companies (in Japan) on here all the time.

I think one difference between the US and Japan, is that US People have no respect...thats why you see cheap knock off's, people bashing one another, and dumb asses thinking they know everything.

[old_s13]

Its "jewpac," biatch! :) And no, I didnt shift from 2nd to 1st, I shifted 3rd gear at redline into 2nd. Put 180,000 miles on YOUR motor, then take it to the top of 3rd gear and drop it into second and see if your motor will withstand it.. then talk.

I get tired of people talking smack about certain parts, calling them useless when they are not. The KA is not a bad motor, its not garbage.. and I had a lot of fun and kicked plenty of ass with that setup.. for over 7 years! I handed people their asses and they were driving cars that were much more powerful AND more expensive than mine. I took my KA to the point where it was shooting fireballs at 6700rpms. Oh and btw, *that* particular KA was made in Japan.

People talk as if their **** dont stink. They throw down money on a few high-end parts and think that will compensate for their inept abilities behind the wheel, otherwise known as poor car control.

I am not trying to knock you personally Tyrone, I just think your article was typical, bro. It may pass for class and provide you with a paycheck at the end of the week, but as a 240 enthusiast I didnt get that 7-UP "ahhh" taste of refreshness. I thought to myself "oh great, another overglamourized article by someone who doesnt know better and is too cought up in the modern-day DRIFT-TREND-HYPE." When I saw that you write it, I was disappointed.. thats all I am trying to say.

- Mike Mamos / ClearCorners.Com (for those of you who didnt know it was my angry ass writing this).

[drift freaq]

quote....[The poor Mexico-built KA could not last a redline from second into one.]

hahhahaha another uninformed statement.
Redline from 2nd to 1st? the way all cars are geared between those two gears, I can tell you pretty much from an engineering standpoint any engine is going to blow up . If it is treated that way, period!!!
Having been the owner of a 90 Hardbody pickup. Who drove it for 8 years all over the hills of San Francisco and did do downshifts from 2nd to 1st for low speed corners , I can say you my friend are talking out your ass. Just because the motor was built in mexico and was tuned for torque does not mean it did not rev. I ran that baby up to 6k on a regular basis.
I like SR's but get off your damn SR Nazi bull**** ass

sticking up against the uniformed biased fools!!!!

[old_s13]

SR is niiiiiiiiiiice....

but RB is niiiiiiiiiice... I like!

<img src="http://www.webgeordie.co.uk/borat/images/hboborat.jpg">

[tyrone]

Originally posted by drift freaq
quote....[The poor Mexico-built KA could not last a redline from second into one.]

hahhahaha another uninformed statement.
Redline from 2nd to 1st? the way all cars are geared between those two gears, I can tell you pretty much from an engineering standpoint any engine is going to blow up . If it is treated that way, period!!!
Having been the owner of a 90 Hardbody pickup. Who drove it for 8 years all over the hills of San Francisco and did do downshifts from 2nd to 1st for low speed corners , I can say you my friend are talking out your ass. Just because the motor was built in mexico and was tuned for torque does not mean it did not rev. I ran that baby up to 6k on a regular basis.
I like SR's but get off your damn SR Nazi bull**** ass

sticking up against the uniformed biased fools!!!!

Really, who are you? And why do you have so many old cars? And why are you such an azz? You're kidding. I never knew that redlining to a lower gear would blow an engine from "an engineering standpoint."

Long live Mexico and the Nazi SR bastards, too!

And do you mean uniformed like a Nazi or uninformed like yourself?

[NiteKids]

Thats where you wrong Tyrone.
Using the word conversion or not still makes your statement false. Which by the way I spelled correctly multiple times.

"We've done our best to turn our U.S.-spec 240SX into a Silvia or, in our case, a Sxilvia."

Okay lets take a US model S14 95-98 model and make it into a "Silvia." This doesn't make any sense. When you say Silvia it signifies every year Silvia there way and every model possible ranging from the base model NA to the turbo charged motor. This ranges from S13 to the S15. Doing a front end conversion to S15 front on a S14 has nothing to do w/ being a "silvia." S14 already has a "silvia" front end from factory. The US bumper cover is just simply diffrent from the oem Japanese market S14. NA S14 Silvias in Japan are still well Silvias but just not turbo. But yes it still makes them Silvias. Turbo SR's (K's Model) isn't the only Silvia model availbale. Being turbo Doesn't make it a "Silvia." NA or turbo it's the same car. It's the body itself that is Silvia not the internals.

K's, Q's J's is what you needs to be paying attention to. Or Spec S or Spec R if you are talking about S15's.

RSX owners don't say they are doing then "Integra Conversion." because it's still integra regardless of their motor. They would most likely be doing a Type R conversion.

I have no beef w/ tyrone. I just get kinda annoyed by the way most magazines etc. go about talking about Silvias etc and how vauge they are.

Get my point? But then again I guess I can understand you reasoning for writing the way you did for that site since thats for mainstream people not for anal retentive people that acually own the car.

[old_s13]

thats dave...

he knows about a lot of things, including cheech's on thursdays.. thats the shiet right there!

i have been now about 1 week, without any... sexytime.. my ham is heavy!

[swifty949]

so let me get this straight....


If i called my car, project biatch, then that's not correct? I can't give it a name?



:confused:

[old_s13]

My dad once gave me some advice. He told me this "Don't be stupid Mike", and ever since that day I have never done anything stupid.

[Grant]

Grow up..

Tyrone, Mike, Henry, you all have a point, but whats up with the beef against eachother.?

We all say things other people dont like.. why take it personally?

if you guys are going to keep up this behavior, please dont post on this forum. I know i come off as a real dick, but..

you guys all know eachother in person and one of the mods are going to ban you. I wont be the one to do it though.
thread closed.