battery relocation help

[drift240_2009]

Ok i bought a kit, but having trouble figuring out the best way to feed the wires to the trunk.I dont think having them in the fender will be good incase i slam the car later on. I have never done this and want try to succeed in doing this for the first time. Do i need to cut any wires like the original positive and negative cables and solder them to the new cables to locate in the back?If someones local to suwanee who knows how to do it this would be great and i can pay them for their help. Even though ill regret it later on that i couldnt do myself, but electrical stuff isnt really my thing and i just want to get this done so i can manage the other projects better.

[Persona]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=S14+240sx+battery+relocation

[cardoza]

I just relocated my battery, if you want to come to Atlanta I could give you a little help. Otherwise here is a good link:

Low-Budget Battery Relocation – NICO Club (http://www.nicoclub.com/archives/low-budget-battery-relocation.html)

If you have any questions feel free to PM me.

[godrifttoday]

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hey how do u do that?

[godrifttoday]

Let me google that for you (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=S13+240sx+cable+relocation)


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[cardoza]

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hey how do u do that?

Let me google that for you (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+do+lmgtfy)

[drift240_2009]

ive been looking at those 2 links for awhile, cardoza, ill be in atl wednesday afternoon, but the car will be up at a marta station. I dont have the box no more since i just got a battery holder. Cardoza, if you can manage to help me with this, that would be awesome. Like i said i suck at electrical and it helps alot when someone else is helping.

[Zach-sr]

I ran mine along with all the hard lines that go to the gas tank. Then drilled a hole in trunk to get the power wire to the battery.

[drift240_2009]

Thats the thing, i dont have a drill and all that. I got tools but not anything fancy

[Zach-sr]

If you have nough wire to reach the rubber gromets in the trunk then you can just go threw there.

[drift240_2009]

Yea but the only thing i dont understand is why cant you just cut the positive and negative cables and attach the new cables to them and just feed those wires to the new battery location? I dont see how that cannot work. And whats with this amp fuse you have to use for this kit?

[waxball88]

Why not drill a whole in the pass. side firewall, put in a grommet, run the wire under the carpet/ metal tunnel like things. Run it under the back seats to the battery in the trunk. I ran the power wire to the engine bay where i have a distro block.
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u116/waxball88/100_0543.jpg
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You can see the battery in the trunk. No wires exposed.
I ran mine along with all the hard lines that go to the gas tank. Then drilled a hole in trunk to get the power wire to the battery.
Just me. I'd be wary of running electrical components along gas lines/tank. Just because of the slight chance of the wire casing rubbing through and eventually causing a spark near gas tank. Highly unlikely, but i'm not taking the chance.

[Zach-sr]

Yea but the only thing i dont understand is why cant you just cut the positive and negative cables and attach the new cables to them and just feed those wires to the new battery location? I dont see how that cannot work. And whats with this amp fuse you have to use for this kit?

You can I did it....

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w165/boodoot259/IMG_0027.jpg

[drift240_2009]

What is that, i dont understand what that is? I have never seen that before? I was more considering cutting the positive and negative and electrical taping them to the new wires and feeding them through the trunk. But i mean, how is it gunna work if its like that? I mean yea the wires are touching each other but how can it still work at a bend like that? You need to show me the engine bay so i know what it looks like.

[waxball88]

Its a Distro block. Changes cleanly allows the attachment of more wires to one wire

[cobras89]

simply drilling a hole is the best way even if you have to borrow a drill from a friend or a neighbor thats how i did mine and its been great for 2 yrs so far.

[Zach-sr]

Best I could do.

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w165/boodoot259/1213.jpg

[Slammed95S14]

Let me google that for you (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=S14+240sx+battery+relocation)



You may have to show them how to get to open the browser and get to google as well.

[240sx123$]

Here's a question- I currently have my battery up front, with a 0 gauge wire run to the trunk for the amps. When I relocate the battery, can I use the existing wire w/ fuse to go from the battery to the engine bay? And is a fully enclosed box recommended for an optima yellowtop?

[Zach-sr]

That wire would be perfectly fine, and if it is not a dry cell battery then yes closed box vented to the outside of the car is recomended due to fumes.

[drift240_2009]

stop saying google.How is that going to help for someone whos electrically declined like me who doesnt know much about electrical. Thats how you make pple not want to come back, fyi. If the person doesnt understand anything from google stop sending them back, it gets annoying. Zach explains it like how forums are suppose to help, Zach you have my respect on here.

Zach btw, on the drawing you made where you pointed to the splitter. What do you mean by the splitter?I dont see that on the car except where the negative and positive cables become one and theres these plugs ontop of this block thing. Is that what you are refering to? Wait....wait wait. I think i just understood everything zach just said just now

[drift240_2009]

I think what Zachs terminology meant by is that when your going to relocate the battery you just cut the cable before the splitter that has the 2 wires that go to negative and positive side of the battery. Also cut the starter cable and attach it to the power wire thats going to be going directly to the trunk. Then attach that to positive i think and the negative will be grounded to some place thats exposing bare metal. Is that what youve been trying to explain to me this whole time?

[Zach-sr]

Yes. the two wires that are coming out of the gold block are the ones that would usually attatch to the battery post.

This is how i did the starter wire.

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w165/boodoot259/P5140416.jpg

[drift240_2009]

So at these 3 points i need to cut and merge into one right? Autozone thinks that inst right.Cant i just attach the new cable to it and just feed it to the back and leave all three points attached?

http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/3876/kp5160344rz0.jpg

[Zach-sr]

Yes you can, BUT with wiring quality is key. When I do wiring i like to make things as good if not better than OEM. Electrical taping over everything and leaving it will almost definitely result in problems down the road. It will function though. And I have been mis-lead by people in autoparts stors so many times its not even funny. I have this setup in my car at the moment and works great. If you want one of these blocks I have one chilling in the shop and will sell it oober cheap.

[Maiku240sxS14]

drift240...i really think you are over thinking this. Your concept is correct. I know you don't have much at your disposal, but in order to do this correctly and safely. You are going to need to get a few things.

I don't want to go into detail, if I don't have to, but there is really no need for cutting original positive/negative wires. Go to Pepboys/Kragen/AutoZone, and buy a battery post. Its the little nob on the battery, that the positive/negative cable clamps on to. Now you can clamp the original postive/negative cables to the new battery post.

This way you are not messing/cutting up the original positive/negative cables, just in case you decide to put the battery back.

If you need more info, just ask or pm. But I would HIGHLY advise using an inline fuse on that positive cable you are running to the back/trunk.

[drift240_2009]

maiku, wtf happened to the battery? How is everything gunna get charged and run if theres no batttery to charge it? Plus maiku, I got enough slack since its a fairly small battery like the jetski battery, I can take off the cable connectors that look like this and electrical take them to the new cables to the battery. That basically was my plan. Im going to try that tuesday and wednesday. This way, if it doesnt get power to anything and dies, i can always reattach the original ones back to their spot on the battery.
http://metalshopborealis.ca/pics2/lrbatt.jpg

[Maiku240sxS14]

drift240...i only got to helping you do this so that you don't cut up the original positive/negative cables that are in the engine compartment. The original negative cable in the engine compartment is just grounded to the chasis using the new battery post.

You then run the positive cable to the back/trunk or where ever you putting the battery.

I don't understand what you mean by "cable connector"? Is that the picture you are refering too..?

[drift240_2009]

Yea the connectors connecting to the battery to get the power. The only thing i dont to do is get rid of the connector and the alternator wire on the power wire. I want to keep all that and be able to just use the one cable i got to locate it into the back. I hate the box guys since i got ripped off.It never came with straps to hold it down or anything, im goin getto and doing it with a battery tie down. Ill do something later, maybe get summit racings box i dont know.

[Maiku240sxS14]

I bought the summit racing battery relocator and the box is a cheap plastic. I ended up buying a sears battery box, which is a thicker plastic.

As for how to connect the NEW cable to run into the back, it would be easier if I just post a pix of my set-up. Hopefully I'll be able to do that tonight.

[drift240_2009]

Im seeing cardoza at his place wednesday. He's gunna help me hook it up.Its not that im scared to do it on my own.I just dont want to fuck it up.

[240sx123$]

Take pics and post em.

[drift240_2009]

take pics of what? Me and cardoza doing this mod or what? I posted pics of the battery connectors so i dont need to repost them.

[240sx123$]

Ah crap- didnt see the pictures because theyre blocked at my work, my b.

[drift240_2009]

Fuck, i just tested the power cable to see how far it is and it reaches just behind the rear seat. Now what am i gunna do. I kinda wanted it right between the rear strut towers and thats the longest i found at autozone.

[Zach-sr]

Go to a car audio shop and get wire.

[drift240_2009]

cant do that. Need the rest for christmas. I cant afford anymore because im moving into a motel since i cant afford a 3 bedroom apartment since my roommates just lost their jobs.

[atlknight]

i can help pm sent

[240sxvaj]

i need to relocate my battery too!

[drift240_2009]

Id like to thank cardoza for giving me his time to help with my car.Sadly the cable came up short and he couldnt help. Thanks anyways bro, I think i can ground the wire to the other side of the motor somewhere until i get a long enough cable.

[cardoza]

NP man, that ground cable you have will work fine... You just need a power cable longer than 72 inches haha. If you just want to get a kit and make it easy on yourself here's what I went with:

JEGS 10262 JEGS Battery Relocation Kits (http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/10262/10002/-1)

All you need is an inline fuse for the power line and it has everything else.

[drift240_2009]

yea.I dont have 76 bucks. Anyways i texted you about the db and ya know come to think of it, i think the audio one wont fit. I found 2 but they still wont fit those cables i got. Second, like i said i was gunna put the battery temporarily on the drivers side. Yea actually there is a ground. If the ground is on the motor on the passenger, surely you can just bolt it to the motor on the drivers side. Lol and you know what, pepboys has the box, but you gotta get the cables and the longest one is 78 inches. That is infact gunna end up behind the seat,lol.Im going to summit and see what cables they got. If they have 15 feet of 2 gauge im getting that shit.

Why do i need another fuse if im just attaching the ground to where those red connectors are attached to the battery connector? I thought you said the new battery cable is attached to that and you just electrical taped it to secure it? Thats how i was going to try.I think if i take it apart and attach the current and try it out to see if i get power. If i do, that's what ill do.

[cardoza]

Wait you're just moving the battery to the driver's side temporarily? Why? Just leave it where it is until you can get the correct supplies to move the battery to the trunk.

[Quail]

cant do that. Need the rest for christmas. I cant afford anymore because im moving into a motel since i cant afford a 3 bedroom apartment since my roommates just lost their jobs.

Please don't take this as me being an asshole, but if money is tight at the minute, can the car not be put on the sideline for a while? Especially for non-essential mods like battery relocation!

Edit: Hmm, reading some of your previous threads, your lack of logic is unsurprising.

WTF (http://zilvia.net/f/polls/308103-free-car-vs-car-sale.html)

WTF (http://zilvia.net/f/cars-sale/308106-free-car-best-offer.html)

WTF (http://zilvia.net/f/chat/309147-s13s-worth-having-any-engine.html)

Seriously man, get your shit together before trying to waste the money you need to live, on cars.

[drift240_2009]

why did you even bring that car up, thats been long gone,lol. Second,like i said, if i do it on the drivers side, i can do the mod that way and save for the rear thing.Hello, i said save for the real thing. Im not spending any money here in order to do this i got everything with me. Plus, im not suprised you would post that. thirdly, its not your car its mine. You cant tell me what i can and cant do to it either,lol. Im only putting it on the drivers temporarily because im waiting for my 15 foot cable to come in the mail. I ordered it from summit.Thats why im going to put it there temporarily.

Cardoza is the only one i actually give respect around here because he doesnt tell me what to do, he EXPLAINS what to do. On the other hand you tell me what i can and cant do which makes me want to do it even more.

[sliddinsil8o]

why did you even bring that car up, thats been long gone,lol. Second,like i said, if i do it on the drivers side, i can do the mod that way and save for the rear thing.Hello, i said save for the real thing. Im not spending any money here in order to do this i got everything with me. Plus, im not suprised you would post that. thirdly, its not your car its mine. You cant tell me what i can and cant do to it either,lol. Im only putting it on the drivers temporarily because im waiting for my 15 foot cable to come in the mail. I ordered it from summit.Thats why im going to put it there temporarily.

Cardoza is the only one i actually give respect around here because he doesnt tell me what to do, he EXPLAINS what to do. On the other hand you tell me what i can and cant do which makes me want to do it even more.

why do you ask when you're going to make statements like this!
If you want to put it on the drivers side, go for it. But if you're waiting for your cable to come in from summit why dont you just wait and do the job in one shot. And not waste your time moving it to the drivers side then to the truck. Is the battery in the way of anything or preventing you to do anything?

[Hayaku Kenji]

are you autoxracer??
if so that explains everything

[jbballa9876]

ha this whole thread sucks.

Battery relocation is little more than common sense.

[l2edken]

theres so many other threads on this already...

[drift240_2009]

Autoxracer, lol dont even put that name on here that kid is whack.He wanted to buy my other s13 last week just to let you know. Dont even let him near your cars though, he'll fuck it up big time.

My friends got and rb25det coupe and he tried to tune the car and blew my friends turbo instead. He should never have a 240 in the first place, he has no clue what hes doing, for anything major. I heard that kid lived in like alpharetta or something. Im down here in douglasville,ga. Ive seen his s14, paintjob sucks. Everything about his car sucks, then i found out he tried to drift and fucked it up even more. :faint:omg when will it end with this kid. Oh btw,if you want to bash him, i found him on 240sxforum. His username is rbdrifter.

[drift240_2009]

The battery is in the way to cut a hole for my intercooler piping or a short cold air intake on that side. Im removing the tray aswell so its in the way of doing that. Anyways, I got bigger things to worry about them messing with it. I need to do my oil and remove my a/c.