My First totally balls out drift.

[Bill Roberts]

I have been rallying my car for a while doing grip but not to the extream at all of the drifting that went down today.

You think you totally lost the car to regain with such elegance and beauty that it just blew me away how far gone you can be with our cars and actually recover at speed.

It was like no way will I come out of this one..and then I say to myself "I got it" and all is well.

I just knew at the angle I was at that their was no turning back and I was going to spin out but it recovered so flawlessly that me and my passenger are still talking about it.


I have done some light solo drifting but nothing like this before.


The car certainly can handle some extreame situations and come out smelling like roses. You must experience this once to believe it.

It was totally unreal sliding within 5 feet of another car at 50MPH and more. Damn it was awesome.

WOW!!!

[azn_romeox]

what type of tires you got........mine end up smelling like *** and EGGS! :D

[Bill Roberts]

BF Goodrich GT-H 205 60 15 on stock alloy rims.

[S13SilviaGirl]

Originally posted by Bill Roberts
Iit.

It was totally unreal sliding within 5 feet of another car at 50MPH and more. Damn it was awesome.

WOW!!!

BILL, You gotta watch out for the other cars man! :aw: You can't be running into any old ladies down there in FL. They are rich...hehehe
Glad you had fun though!

Lisa

[wingsnthangs]

Originally posted by Bill Roberts
BF Goodrich GT-H 205 60 15 on stock alloy rims.
Cool I almost have the same tires on stock alloys too. BFGoodrich Touring TA 205/60/R15.

[Sniper-X]

Now the question remains, did you purposfully initiate the drift or did you lose control?

[adey]

...and I'm wondering... is the "girl" in your avatar really a chick??
Glad you had fun! =D

[Bill Roberts]

We are talking track here..

Yes, I went into a 60 degree turn a shade too fast and gunned it hard and the tail came unglued...and I thought I lost it but I kept the power up , countersteered and it swung around even harder ....totally sideways and I did this 3 more times before straitening up with my food in it hard. It was just amazement that the car could swing that far and be corrected. Nothing else I have driven...I feel ...I could have recovered in. It was out there...fun!!!

[RedlineRacer]

The first time I went all out on drifting, I ended up in this dude's front yard. I thought I had blew one of my tires, cause I fell in this fairly deep ditch. Luckily it was my front end that fell in so I could get myself out. If it was my rear end, I would have been skrewed, cause it had just rained really bad like an hour before.

[drift freaq]

welcome bill , to the new experience , for you. First time I ever drifted was in my Datsun 510 and yes 510's were and still can be drift machines. They go sideways perfectly. You have been bitten by the bug . Driving sideways is the bomb:D :boink: :bow:

[f2a4s0t]

sounds like you had fun. did you **** off the guy in the other car?

[Bill Roberts]

It was kinda planned but I got really close....after finding out it takes a little speed to do a really good drift. 45 to 70 was nice..I just said...whatever you do...don't worry about how close I get...if I hit you..we will still be ok. 5 feet is pretty close. My left front corner was even with the front of his door...both of us sideways..it was a pretty thing! I am happy Jerry was not trying to compensate for me..that is what gets you into trouble. The lead car should just drift..following car (me) has to be incontrol of distance. Nothing the lead car SHOULD do to compensate..He just needs to drive. Once you follow back about 1 car length and get to know his drifting style...you can hang real close and no surprises.

Their is a point where too much speed is danger...70/80...that is about as fast as you want to go on the straits. Next time we will use some road cones for markers and not burning tire marks. I may get a spray can of orange paint to lay out some areas. This is just a big ole' industrial parking lot that is abandoned. Large enough for fun. Not too many people go out there..it is in the booneys. If a lot of people started, the cops might not think it is cool...well that is our track for now. Good place to practice.

I think we will try to do it again tomorrow!

[JerkFaceJason]

what kind of diff?

[Sniper-X]

Sounds fun. Got any pictures or videos of you guys doing the dori?

[1baddrifter]

In what part of S FL are you doing this man? I cant push it where I live ad it's pretty heated.

[Bill Roberts]

Ck your PM.

[Fastback180]

Originally posted by wingsnthangs
Cool I almost have the same tires on stock alloys too. BFGoodrich Touring TA 205/60/R15.

Ewwww. Ughh, I hate those tires. They would lose traction so easily on my back end. I'd go over train tracks and accelerate even the slightest and my back end would bounce like it was "up in duh clubb"

[Bill Roberts]

....correct on the T/A's...and the GT-H is much softer and will dig in just enough. I have yet to experience any wheel hop with them. Excellent tires...the treads go all the way around the corners and you use the sidewall edges meaninfully. Nice fat wide grooves. Decent rain tire too!

205/60R-15 BF Goodrich Excentia GT-H tires. These tires are beyond excellent!

[Bill Roberts]

Opps..Diff question..I missed it. Well I have been at odds with this for a while because the jack up test proves nothing. Sometimes it will lock in and both tires will turn forward, othertimes, it will turn one tire and the other tire turns forward slipping. If you hold one tire and someone else turns the other..it is stiff and jolts some (grips and turns, grips and turns) and other times I can turn the tire and the other one does not turn at all.

Perhaps it is a worn out 1.5 is all I can figure, I have not torn into it, I got the larger fins on the rear cover (remember, I bought this car with 103K miles and 7 inches of receipts) and the orange tag is on the outside of the diff but is about oiled over...I never paid any real attention to it. It does not clunk, grind or make any noise. Striat line I get two black marks on takeoff. Turning they both spin. Dirt/road test (right tire on dirt, /grass left on pavement) you can turn the right tire on the grass and the left one will leave some skipped gripping marks..not locking up.


So your guess is as good as mine. Whatever it is, it controls with avant garde predictablness. Whatever you want to do...it does pretty well. Finding the "totally out of control point" has not happend...but I thought I was damn close..I had serious real time doubts I could come out of some of those situations.

I guess now I need to get up to like 75 and really try to lose it and see what happens and see if that is recoverable.

Off topic..can a 245 50 15 fit on the teardrop rim?

[Fastback180]

I also hated the sidewalls on the TA's too. They seemed like they were gonna tear or pop off if i went sideways. 195/60/15 on 7.5 width.

[Bill Roberts]

yep...the 205/60R-15 BF Goodrich Excentia GT-H tires are the ones to have. Inspecting the sidewall treads, I got down only one half of them on stress with scrubbing them in. They have a lot more to go to be taxed. A 75MPH drift sideways and they were totally secure. IF anything could have happened, it would of in that drift.

I should take a sidewall picture of how much they dug in...and I need to rotate them tonight anyway...so I will!! Give me some time to have a beer (todays drifting went to 90MPH...75 was great..I did lose it once...spun out on the 90MPH...too much speed (brakes too hot actually)..I will learn young jedi.

[Fastback180]

I really like my yokohama a550's. Good grip, nice sidewall. And for $72, you can't beat it.

[zero.counter]

Glad that you're o.k. Mr. Bill.

I have some crappy Goodyear Eagle IIs. I have lotsa road noise past 100mph. I think they have some others (Goodyear that is) which are quieter at high speeds.

[Bill Roberts]

Ironically, those tires are a wal mart exclusive...Ooopps, I hear X-Files comming on...time to take an 1 hr break from the 'puter..


7.1 surround here I come...

[deviousKA]

my two open diffs act in a similar way. My coupe (186k miles) seems to act more like "some sort of lsd installed" than my fastback (105k). possibly as the diffs wear, the sides cannot spin independently as well. the coupe also has leaking output seals on the diff, but it is definately more stable upon loosing/gaining traction. yes the coupe is a bit more rigid to begin with but i have strut bars on the fastback :) .

btw. you should learn to drift/slide your car at a much slower speed, dont wanna smash that nice 89

[720_datsun]

Originally posted by deviousKA
my two open diffs act in a similar way. My coupe (186k miles) seems to act more like "some sort of lsd installed" than my fastback (105k). possibly as the diffs wear, the sides cannot spin independently as well. the coupe also has leaking output seals on the diff, but it is definately more stable upon loosing/gaining traction. yes the coupe is a bit more rigid to begin with but i have strut bars on the fastback :) .

btw. you should learn to drift/slide your car at a much slower speed, dont wanna smash that nice 89 so yeah you wana sell one?

[deviousKA]

Originally posted by 720_datsun
so yeah you wana sell one?

no, not really. i will sell you a fully rebuilt engine for your 720 datsun, but thats about it.

[720_datsun]

Originally posted by deviousKA
no, not really. i will sell you a fully rebuilt engine for your 720 datsun, but thats about it. what kind of motor, i dont really want to keep the truck though i want a 240 RRRRRRWWWWWWWAAAAAAAARRRRRRRR