The 240sx "silvia" hype

[RoNiN240sx]

Now it's obvious from alot of the responses (especially the flames) that many of the 240 veterans are especially jumpy when it comes to 240 newbies and their questions about their new "silvias." What do you think started all this 240 hype?

heh, sure there was that brief "1/4" with the s14 in Fast and Furious and i think i saw one zippin around in the scramble scene of the sequel, but why do you guys think people are jumping all over the 240?

i for one am admittingly a newbie, and a young one at that, i've owned my 96 s14 for all of 6 months, but i've wanted it for years. I must admit, and this is my theory on the 240 hype, drifting is what brought me to RWD and ultimately the 240. But more embarassingly, a cartoon i caught a couple years ago Initial D is what brought me toward drifting :doh: (yah i'm young) So yah i have a 240, but am in love with it, and will definitely continue to learn about this RWD machine to deserve it.

With that same cartoon series supposedly coming soon to the US i can only imagine the many spills of cups of water over innocent 240 dashboards (if you've seen the anime you'll know) and the many downhill racing accidents :eek: I've been to watch a few downhill races around my area (Asuza if you live around south cali) and there's nothing but grip driving, no one's insane enough to try and drift, hopefully that won't change:mad:


anyways, sorry if i wasted ne one's time, just wondering with all the vets, since you guys came to the 240 before the drifting hype and initial d etc, what brought you to the car?

[Flybert]

I'm new to the scene as well. I just bought my 240 about a couple of months ago. For me it is the obvious fact that this car is a well balanced low budget FR car that has large aftermarket support. If I had the chance, I'd be riding in an M3 but that is just a liiiiittle out my price range if you know what I'm saying. My pops owns a 99 so I still can get my kicks whenever I feel like. I used to own a honda civic but it was just a commuter car that I learned to drive in. It wasn't even a stick but I did learn how to take it to the limits and beyond, one time. Never did one thing to modify because I never had the money but now that I'm out of college, my s13 should be coming along farely quickly in terms of the money and time spent working on this fine machine. I've always been a sucker for compact awesome handling cars and the S13 is the car for me at this time. The drift scene is a very interesting one and I'm glad to be entering it shortly. I just don't see any events in the near future for me to go to. All the drift days seem to be done at least in cali.

[nissan slut]

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these threads are getting really old...

[weirdstyles.net]

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[mrmephistopheles]

Originally posted by James
this is just my 2 cents explaining the "hype"

Lotsa good points raised.. I still think that it's blown up quite a bit since 2001..

[aznpoopy]

i'm a 240 noob sorta too... i got my 95 240 (base) about a month before i finished college? so i guess that would mean i bought it in april. why did i buy a 240? well, i wanted to learn how to drive rwd. i had never driven one before so i figured i wanted to try it before i got old. after a few scary incidents i got the hang of it and i feel very confident taking it around turns and such. it definitely forces you to be a more technical driver.

anyway, i wanted to get a rwd car. i had a few criteria. it had to be fairly cheap (5k or less). it had to be rwd. it had to be japanese. nothing against american cars, they just don't 'feel' right to me, so i don't like to drive them. they are respectable in their own right. anyway, that didn't leave too many options. mr2, 240sx, mazda miata, rx7 2nd gen, an old supra... i think those were my main options. the miata was just too small... my head would hit the ceiling when i drove it. the rx7 is too mechanically unstable for me and my meager budget. i never found a supra. the mr2 is uber rare... and so it was the 240. after 3 months of searching i found one that was ok and picked it up. and so i hopped on the 'bandwagon' even though i didn't know it.

as for why the 240 scene has exploded... i think people just got sick of fwd and hondas and such. ricers are always trying to be 'different.' intersting that they all end up looking the same. s2k is too expensive, there aren't too many options for a rwd import. initial D helped MAYBE, in that it brought drifting to the US, and the 240 is a good car for that. but the 240 is a very under-hyped car in that cartoon. nobody of skill (in the manga) drives one... which is interesting... its probably b/c the 180/silvia are so damn common over there the artist didn't want to make it one of the 'main cars.' for the show.

also i didn't realize what kind of car i bought. i went to test drive it and when i saw it i was like, hmm this is a 240? it doesnt look like what i remember. i was thinking of the 180sx 240... that's the one i really wanted to get... i like flip up headlights :P ... and now i realize that i got a semi-rare car for my area. go figure...

[weirdstyles.net]

Originally posted by mrmephistopheles
Lotsa good points raised.. I still think that it's blown up quite a bit since 2001..

Seriously I welcome all the attention the 240SX receives.

Point one, attention will bring more resources to the table. As companies cater to the needs of the MTV generation they will start to offer more product. Meaning we will have a larger selection of higher quilty parts at lower prices. Competition puts nice sh*t on your car, with out riping your wallet a new as*hole.

Point two, I want to see more people with the 240SX. With anyluck, but doubtful, Nissan will realize what they did. They could mimic the 350Z resurrection and we can have our 240's back. Albeit there will be a seven page long thread about how much it sucks, lacks power and, is overly expensive.

Point three, I also enjoy sharing a hobby with someone. So far I have met ToddNapi and that is pretty much it. Remind you, a good majority of you sit on the west coast, while I get rained on in Jersey. I would like to see a larger fan base becuase I want to work on my car with someone who knows wtf a KA24DE is and not just an SR. (Heeeeeeeeeyyy yyyouuu guuuuyssss)

Point four, :gives:

[crioten]

im kinda the opposite way, i didnt go looking for a 240, just because it could drift, or has a perfect weight balance...i was 16 and needed a cheap car that didnt rape you for insurance, and that was a little sporty. i took my time looking for it, as everyone should do when buying any car...and i found one that i loved, and i still love it after one+ years

little did i know how great my car was, and how fast i came to love it...and everyday it grows on me, i didnt buy my car knowing about inital d and drifting, my car taught me about those things lol

i think the more 240's that people get is a great thing, except when they are young kids, who think that they can do everything w/ it the first time they go driving...i would like to see more 240 action in my area, and yeah i know this isnt socal (i live in missouri, i barely see one other 240 a day lol)

i mean, what makes the 240 more special than other rice out there? who knows, there are a lot of things, but to put your finger down on one spot would be wrong...just enjoy what you got, and dont worry about what others say:coolugh:

-glen

[old_s13]

Its simple, the 240Z - the 240SX, both are inexpensive RWD cars that are good looking, both interior and exterior. They are both capable of excellent performance at bargain prices, what MORE can one ask for?

I can call myself old-school because I've been a part of the 240SX list ever since there WAS a 240SX list, I was part of the AMAROK list. This was before the whole drift MANIA. Even though some 240 list members KNEW about drifting, the scene did not revolve around it. The community was small and our meets started off consisting of maybe 10 people MAX. TEN PEOPLE!!! These ten people all went in different directions, most of them are still 240 owners, some of them own businesses, some of them are just crazy 240 enthusiasts.. and some may have moved on to buy other cars, but amazingly enough, most are still a part of these 240 lists and forums. I remember when the list didnt have more than 100 people total, this included people in the US & Canada.

The reason *I* tend to react negatively toward some of these new 240 owners is because they have no concept about community. The think everyone is into drifting because it is new and trendy, which in fact it is NOT new at all. AND, those who are into drifting.. dont treat it as if its something fun and new to "TRY" -- those who drift, respect the great deal of skill, practice, and FEEL it requires. I see too many people who think "ah the 240 is so cheap, I'll try it.. and if I reck my car, just get another one" -- they have no respect or understanding for the way things work, they think its like the lottery and just HOPE that one day they get it.

Most of these newbies are not about fabricating or learning HOW to fabricate parts, they just expect consumers to manufacturer an endless supply of parts for their car. They dont understand that the companies that ARE in business, are usually small businesses. The parts that most of these small businesses sell are very rare and imported from Japan, or custom fabricated. They treat businesses like they are massive stores and complain when parts take time to arrive, or when parts take time to fabricate, and expect the prices of these parts to be on the same level as the mass-produced shlew of goods being sold in Honda-land. And last, they expect the absolute best customer service because this is what they deserve.

New 240SX owners should spend more time reading, not asking. They should spend more time driving, not pretending to drift or race. They should spend more time working on their cars, maintaining them, not destroying their useful KA's and then going SR because its cool. I had my KA for over 6-7 years before eventually moving to another motor. I cranked out as much juice as possible from my NA SOHC KA before I eventually killed it. I would have loved to see how long it would have lasted, too bad I mis-shifted..

Magazines like Sport Compact Car writing articles like "build a Silvia for $3000" dont help. Super Street is just another confused compilation of thoughts, being written by show car owners who have no idea how to drive.. just collecting a pay check to talk the talk, and egg on kids onto "whats new and trendy."

[Dousan_PG]

Originally posted by old_s13




:wtc: that was beautiful...:bowdown:

[SimpleS14]

Originally posted by crioten
i was 16 and needed a cheap car that didnt rape you for insurance, and that was a little sporty.

I get raped on insurance.....:axe:

[SimpleS14]

Originally posted by RoNiN240sx
what brought you to the car?

I needed a car for school ASAP and didn't even know what the fu<i></i>ck it was. Drifting was never my thing and my first newbie question was "do they have projector lights for my 95 240SX SE?". :doh:

[crioten]

its not as bad as some other cars, and mine doesnt even consider a sports car lol, i guess I4 and 2+2 is good for someting after all right?


but to what old_s13 said, its hard for pure 240 nuts like me to develop our car by ourselves when we go for answers to our question is that a lot of times they arent answered, instead i guess we move on to other things like drifting b/c we "think" that our answers are being answered...

i came to this forum not knowing **** about cars, and from the year~ish that ive been here, i now know a ton more than i started out w/, and it isnt from a craze for drifting, its a craze for more and more knowledge about my car.

do i make any sense?

[Fastback180]

I swear it was the Sport Compact Car issue w/all those's 240's. After that I would get so many "You gonna put a silvia front end on that?" "Are you gonna do the SR20DET swap?"
Although it opened peoples eyes. It opened the doors to lots of, should I say "posers" I guess you could call some of them.

[Burmonster]

I agree that the 240/silvia hype is really starting to get on my nerves. I bought my 97 se new when I was 16, and ever since I have been enjoying the car and adding MY OWN MODIFICATIONS(not getting the ideas from some damn magazine). When I bought my 240, I immediately feel in love with the idea of this light weight, FR sports car and have gone on to buy 3 other s13 and another s14 which I have all modified and sold to fellow silvia fans. But now the whole main stream audience tries to get into the little performance world I feel (as do many of the members on here) that I have help create. It just makes me think, when i step out of my car here at Mercer University, and a kid with a 99+ Civic SI asks me if that my car (this really is a stupid question to begin with) and then asks me if i am going to do a silvia body conversion to it:mad: Then when i try to explain to the kid that the body is already a silvia, he acts like he is a Nissan exec, and tells me the silvia body was only on the 99+ Silvias. He then went on to tell me how he is going to sell his civic and buy a s13 and drop in a sr and then go enter into drift compatitions, all this with the usually despersion of "Yo's, B's, Fo sho's and Home slices'" thrown in (has anyone else ever noticed that civic owners almost seem to have their own language). To put my feeling in short, attention to the 240 is good on some points, I like to new influx of performance parts that have come about, but on the other hand, the people coming to buy a 240 just because it is the new fashion trend, this upsets me. People, buy the car because you love it and like the styling and performance, not because some mag. talks about how big it is in japan or how all you and your buddies are trading in your civics for s13, thats just stupid.

Rant over

[aznpoopy]

Originally posted by old_s13

New 240SX owners should spend more time reading, not asking. They should spend more time driving, not pretending to drift or race. They should spend more time working on their cars, maintaining them, not destroying their useful KA's and then going SR because its cool.

Magazines like Sport Compact Car writing articles like "build a Silvia for $3000" dont help. Super Street is just another confused compilation of thoughts, being written by show car owners who have no idea how to drive.. just collecting a pay check to talk the talk, and egg on kids onto "whats new and trendy."

werd. :P

the whole problem with the import trend in the US is that the focus is on the car instead of the driver. the 'car' is what makes them 'cool.' take the car away from the kid and what do you have... nothing. take the car away from a skilled driver and what do you have... a skilled driver. modding a car should be based upon your style of driving and improving your technique. if you've never driven rwd or stick before why would u go ahead and do a sr20 swap right away. you haven't even reached the limit potential of your ka24 and you think you're gonna be some god of the race just b/c you put in a sr??? argh...

well stated old_s13.

[blxmjx]

I bought my s14 because it was a nice cheap car w/lots of motorswapping options. I needed a new beater/daily driver, the s14 fit the bill to a "T". It was either the s14 or a mkiv supra. For the cash I'm dropping on the s14 I would've only been able to buy a bonestock supra. I'd rather have the s14 w/all the goodies rather than a bonestock supra.

I think the 240sx scene got hotter w/the drifting scene and w/people finding out about the motorswapping possibilities of these cars.

[Kreator]

Originally posted by 95KoukiS14
I needed a car for school ASAP and didn't even know what the fu<i></i>ck it was. Drifting was never my thing and my first newbie question was "do they have projector lights for my 95 240SX SE?". :doh:

:stupid:

When i was looking for a car, i was looking for something bigger than a 200sx SE-R, and cheaper (insurance wise) than a 300zx. Voila, 240sx. I had no plans for that car (hey, i was happy driving my escort before, i was not into the car thing at all). Watched some initial d... no i'm not that crazy to start driftin a $10K car. Then the whole "body kit this, wing that" wave hit me (good thing i never bought anything), so i started researching. Good thing i had a muscle car buddy who was into this ****e, so i got a couple big fat books about cars and started reading that. Learned everything from there. So i "drifted" away from the mainstreem crap.

Reason for flaming newbs that say "silvia": bad mood.... really.... i dont' give a ****. As for what started it, i'd blame the magazines for the hype. The whole sr20det thing... drifting i believe came later

[exitspeed]

if antyone cares...this is why I bought my 240.

In 99 I bought a 99 grant am gt with intentions of "customizing it". Well the car doesnt have much to customize and was pretty slow. So I wanted to get an "import" so I could have something that I could REALLY modify. In 2000 I bought a 2000 Eclipse GT. It was sooo much faster, but there wasnt much availible for the car because it was brand new to the market. Slowly parts stared becoming availible. I did some minor bolt-ons and was running a respectable 14.8. Well the parts were expensive and still not too common. So I stated searching for a car about a year ago or so with huge aftermaket support and potential. Fisrt it was the Toyota MR2. Then I can across the 240sx. I found sooo many options. Body kits, engine swaps, suspension parts and how beatiful I thought the car was. It was really growing on me. I started searching all the boards and reading about it. The car was amazing. I began looking for one and it took me about 3 months to find the perfect car. When I finally got the car I really fell in love with it. I loved the interior and how the car handled. I do plan on learning to drift, as well as doing drag racing with it. I've only drivin my eclipse on time in the last few onths since I;ve had my 240. I'd to do a rb25det swap sometime in the future. But first to do a s13 front. My dream....a Rb pwered sileighty. :wtc:

[Steeles]

I blame car and driver. sometime around 2000 in the overlooked used cars or whatever that little section in the back was they listed the 240sx. got me thinking about how much I'd liked the styling of them. I was getting into modding cars then and started reading about their potential. (my brother had a 91 this whole time) then my supra died and i ended up borrowing my little brothers while I searched for a new car. since I couldnt afford what I Really wanted (MKIV supra) and I was having such fun driving the 91 I started looking for a 240. found my 95 and bought it. I've tried everything with it. Mountain runs at insane paces, autocrosses, track days, drifting, drag. she's my all purpose daily driven bitch. I personally dont care about the whole "scene" or why others got into their cars. I deal with the community for the people. and I've met some really great people. and a few dumbasses. and yes those kids that run up talking about silvia conversions are annoying but if you ignore them they mark you as elitist and snobby and wont talk to you. and that works for me. why are they gaining so much popularity? thats been covered a billion times, cheap and sudden exposure. with the honda camp moving into the everything must be JDM, someof them found that the 180s and silvias were big over there. so naturally as with everything else the trend slowly moved west. I'm still waiting on the sailor school outfits law for college chicks.. then my life will be complete.

[Bbandit]

240 "hype" eh?
i dont really care tho
"hype" equals more people looking for a 240 and SR
so that leaves me with a good resale value + a stock pile full of spare KA
so its all good

[weirdstyles.net]

I bought my car because of Zilvia. I swear to god.

Three years ago my homie Jim, who owned my 240 then, didnt understand the concept of (heat+movement+metal)-lubrication=boom. I was in the car when she seized.... I pushed the mother humper out of the middle of the road. She was towed and sat infront of Jims house fer two years. I never really thought much of the car at the time, I didnt know/like cars so it was just 2400lbs of metal carting my punk as* around town till she blew up.


A year later I was now licensed to kill, or atleast drive. Within that year I learned of Grand Turismo 2. Making these simulated cars made me want to learn about this shizzle. So I learned, I studied, I read and I worked on others peoples cars. But now I needed a car and I needed to know what car I wanted. I searched around and couldnt find anything to suite me. I needed something cheap. As luck would have it, Jim was leaving for the Military, and told me to take the 240. I searced the net and found Zilvia. Spent a lil while on the boards, two months, and decided to buy the car. Went to Jims house, check book in hand. And didn't spend a f*cking dime. His Mom said to just take the ugly thing from infront of her house and its mine!

Boom get a used motor, slap that bitch in and Im on the go. Well, the altenator died that night...in the rain, after a fight with the woman... regardless; I "bought" my car because I saw potential in a realativly cheap vehicle. And Zilvia told me to....

[drift freaq]

old_s13 pretty well calls it like it should be. I agree with him.
I came to the 240sx in a roundabout way.
Yes I am old school. I came out of high school driving a setup Datsun 510 2dr. As a kid I had drooled over Corvettes and 240z's.
I bought my first 240z in 1981. yup I am that old ( you would never guess it if you met me in person :D ask any of the socal boys)
Thing is we were drifting back in the day in 510's we did not call it drifting we just did it. Why? because it was fun.
In the many things I do and wound up doing in my life so far I started my own Japanese engine and transmission business .
Yup JDM before that whole thing was coined and concocted.
Sun Performance Imports ( in case your wondering) San Francisco bay area action.
I fell in love with 240z's we did a lot of mountain driving in the Santa Cruz mountains as well. I wound up having more than one 240z.
Fast forward to 89 . I actually test drove a 240sx when they first hit the american shores. I was greatly impressed.
Of course at that particular time in my life I was leaving the car business for the Music business. I bought a hardbody truck instead. Praticality and utilitarianism won out.
Fast forward to 99. Socal baby , where rents are cheaper,80 degree decembers and more stuff happening in the music business. No AC in the truck. Who needs that when your living in San Francicso? hahahhahaha
Well truck had to go . I wanted another 240z but they were old getting rare and hard to find. Yup I had sold off my last one in 91.
hmmmm rear wheel drive sports car thats affordable , did not want to drop for a new car at the time. Not a lot out there. There it was the car that had so impressed me back in 89 . Pretty much the rest is in my sig.
Thing is ya I like to drift , but its not the reason I bought the car. I bought it because its an affordable well rounded machine and I just love driving it. Nissan has always built fun cars that has always been their forte Sporty fun cars!
Yes I am a big fan of Nissan they are a great car company IMHO.
they are OG. Roadsters starting in 1964 ,510's(sport sedans) in 68 240z's 1970, etc... They started the whole Japanese sports car thing here in the states. No other Japanese car company can or should lay claim to that( Shame on Mitusbushi in their new commercials).
I own a 240sx because I like it. Period! I do with it what I want to because I want to. Not because someone else is doing it.:bow:

[greeksx]

hmmmmmmmmm........there is defintetely a new-found "hype" around the 240. I've owned mine for 5 years now, and when I bought it in high school for $2,700 no one really gave a **** about it and thought it was a nissan POS, despite the RWD and great handling. Fast-forward 4 or 5 years from then and all of a sudden I'm getting 16 yr old kids that were my age in HS coming up to me asking if I have a silvia motor........

[crazyikimasho]

I bought my first 240sx (1990 s13) in 1994 when I was 17 years old. I owned it until I was 25 (last year) when I traded it in on my current '96 s14. I have just always like 240's and refused to drive anything else, although a new daily driver will be necessary soon (must be RWD, so only the G35 sedan is an option at this time).

I have always preferred RWD, the dependability of the 240, handling even from stock and just a fun car to drive all around. My s13 was driven until 200k+ miles and still going that I know of. It took me all through my senior year of high school and through my years of college, when my friends went through several cars, I still get the question from people I havent seen in a while "you still driving that silver 240sx or whatever?", always an item of conversation. Way before the hype started I was working on my 240, wondering why I could never find aftermarket parts for it. Now the scene has blown up and the only reason I am alright with that is I can finally find parts, now only if shops would starts carrying RB parts.

[old_s13]

Originally posted by Bbandit
240 "hype" eh?
i dont really care tho
"hype" equals more people looking for a 240 and SR
so that leaves me with a good resale value + a stock pile full of spare KA
so its all good

Thats the exact reason this scene is sucking, yo. Its mentalities like this, yo, which dont care so much about the 240's and how many are on the road in good condition -- its the "disposable" mentality, where its phat to take a crap-pile 240, slap an SR in it, slang it.. smash it, its all good tho, yo.

When all these 240's are gone, and finding a 240 isnt an option.. it will be a sad sad place for 240 enthusiasts. Hence, the reason why old 240Z's in GOOD CONDITION are so rare now days.

If you have a 240, appreciate it, take care of it, maintain it, and enjoy it. Look at the meets nowadays, people just look at the car with the wild body kit, the most mods, etc.. they have no interesting in meeting the "great drivers" unless they SEE their car first. Look at the 350Z crowd, most of these guys are like Eclipse owners, focusing on body kits and 20" wheels. Its a shame, the 350Z crowd is SOOOOO different than the Z32-TT crowd.. just a world of a difference.

IMO, its that same difference that separates the TRUE 240 enthusiasts from the ones who read and believe all the hype they read in these rubbish magazines. Oldschool NISSAN/Z owners were so hardcore.. this damn new generation needs a lot of schooling.

[Matt_240]

I bought my car because it was beautiful. Then I test drove the car and feel in love with it. I had no idea about drifting, no idea about the cars great balance, and no idea about it being rwd. I just thought it was a sexy car.

[nokeone]

flame on...but honestly...i wanted to drift..plain and simple..i had been into grip racing on tracks such as Buttonwillow, Streets, and Big Willow for a couple years in my 93 Nissan Altima...then at an event about 6 months ago at Streets of Willow Springs there happened to be a Car Control Group sharing the track with us that day...and well, what can i say...it looked awesome...turned out one of my first friends in the whole race scene (BWalker on these boards) was running in this group...i hadn't seen him in about a year...(last time we hung out at Buttonwillow we were both into grip)..anyway, i asked him for a ride-a-long and he gladly obliged me...i was hooked...bought a '91 S13 SE Coupe in flawless condition (183,000 miles) for $900 a couple months later and have done nothing but drift since...every track event i can get to i go...i've modded suspension and VLSD only thus far...

and i don't care if i did get into it during the "hype"..it looked like fun..i was tired of grip which was becoming more and more tedious..and i don't regret it for a second..i'm not a poser...nor am i an old timer in this scene...i believe i am an example of a "newbie" who is anything but..i've learned all i can..i stay true to the sport..and i have respect for those who are deserving..and expect none in return...

hype?..whatever...it's a great car..and i have never had as much fun in my life as i have when i successfully drift through a corner touching the apex ever so slightly with my front lip before snapping it back and countering into the next turn..

:D

[Dousan_PG]

i got my car 2 years ago
wanted to drift
build it up a bit did some suspension and LSD business, and hit the track

the rest is history

[weirdstyles.net]

Originally posted by dousan36
i got my car 2 years ago
wanted to drift
build it up a bit did some suspension and LSD business, and hit the track

the rest is history

See, here Im thinking it would be hard to drift with 60" tires....

Originally posted by old_s13
Thats the exact reason this scene is sucking, yo. Its mentalities like this, yo, which dont care so much about the 240's and how many are on the road in good condition -- its the "disposable" mentality, where its phat to take a crap-pile 240, slap an SR in it, slang it.. smash it, its all good tho, yo.

When all these 240's are gone, and finding a 240 isnt an option.. it will be a sad sad place for 240 enthusiasts. Hence, the reason why old 240Z's in GOOD CONDITION are so rare now days.

If you have a 240, appreciate it, take care of it, maintain it, and enjoy it. Look at the meets nowadays, people just look at the car with the wild body kit, the most mods, etc.. they have no interesting in meeting the "great drivers" unless they SEE their car first. Look at the 350Z crowd, most of these guys are like Eclipse owners, focusing on body kits and 20" wheels. Its a shame, the 350Z crowd is SOOOOO different than the Z32-TT crowd.. just a world of a difference.

IMO, its that same difference that separates the TRUE 240 enthusiasts from the ones who read and believe all the hype they read in these rubbish magazines. Oldschool NISSAN/Z owners were so hardcore.. this damn new generation needs a lot of schooling.

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[noodl35]

I got into the silvia scene when i owned an integra gs-r before. I have a cousin who used to live in japan because his dad was a military officer on base. He used to always talk about his cars. He was always into cars. He had an s13 ca18det silvia and an sr silvia. I was never reallie into silvias at that point because i was too much into the honda b18c scene. So i guess slowly after hearing my cousin talk about it so much i got into the scene. WHen he brought back his ca motor, i helped him put it into his american 240sx. I love the engine, the modibility and performance out of these motors. Thats when i fell in love with the silvia. Its kinda funny cuz movies or mags didnt influence me about this car. I think actually working on one made me realize what this car can do. After my gs-r got stolen ive been mainly into silvias ever since.

dave

[fastpace]

man i was into 240's for the past 3 years when I saw one at my uncles house. I didn't like it at first, I thought of it as a poser 300zx. But I kept on getting interested and finally test drove it(my uncle didn't want me to drive it). I simply beat the hell out it and just loved the car after that. So I started doing research and bought the car a year ago from my uncle.

Like Bbandit said, alot of people just get into the "silvia" secene because of the sr(I don't hate the engine, I am just stressing the fact), not because of the car, but because of a engine. Oh well, people do what they want, I really don't care.

[amolao]

I have owned many nissan classics in the past, but when the 240 came out the first year it just stole my heart. It was the middle class sports car, the best thing after the Z series, a classic was born. The reason the car comes back now is because the style and lines of the car are never going out of style. That simple, my son will be soon getting his drivers license and he better stay away from my 240 (he is been eyeing it ) I will buy him a newer 240SX. All this applies to the hatchback S13, the real 240.....:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[El Estumpy]

First and foremost... I bought it because I am a NISSAN fanatic. Similar to a "id rather push a chevy, than drive a ford" kinda guy. I have so much respect for what nissan has done to the motorsport community. Wether it be drag racing, road racing, drifting. Nissan has such a long and prosperous history, I am loyal to the Nissan marque.

That being said, the 240 was my next alternative to a sporty nissan I could afford. The z32 was a little bit out of my range, and I had just moved up from a Spec V.

I dont consider myself a poser, it just worked out that when I finally had the money to afford a car, I found a good deal on a NISSAN 240sx. I got slack for getting a spec V, cuz it wasnt the classic B13, but if I was 18 years old in 1992, I would have bought the classic SE-R.

I hate the fact that that these "bad newbies" are coming in cuz they dont have respect for the car and the community. Not to many marques can say that they have the support to have "meets" where guys with similar interest and cars meet up just to talk about cars.

Drifting is part of our community, as is road racing, as is drag racing or even just driving to the work and back. But unfortunately this WILL bring unwanted attention, from "ricer-boyz", from law enforcement. But it will bring more after market support for our cars. Lets just hope its not from the like of companies like APC :down:

[ruf]

Originally posted by aznpoopy
the whole problem with the import trend in the US is that the focus is on the car instead of the driver.I totally agree. When people say "I love your car. It's so cool, blahblahblah." I feel really weird saying "thanks". I usually just say, "yah, I like it too". To me saying "thanks" is taking credit for the car as if it is some important defining characteristic of you. To me that's just pathetic whether it's a 16yo punk kid and his neoned Hyundai or a 60yo dude in a Bentley. Those that have to use physical items like cars, etc to validate self worth are just plain pitiful. A car is an object, a tool, not a crutch. Appreciate it for what it is, not what it makes people think of you.

Which leads me to another point. WTF is up with the anti-trend anti-bite BS? If you like a part, BUY IT. I've had so many people opt for weird, inferior, random parts because "oh, my friend has that brand and I want to be different". Well maybe your friend has it because he's intelligent and understands that it's the best one out there. You are not different. Like in Fight Club, you are not a special individual snowflake or some sh!t like that. You are just a person, and what brand of BOV or bucket seat you have should be the LAST thing the defines who you are.

[s14]

I was around when my car came fresh from the factory... i was 9... and let me tell you the black paint and fresh leather it had was amazing. My aunt bought a 95 240sx and i used to love the drives in it...i was so young and my dad was a nut, we would take thee car out and he would drive like a maniac. I remember thee one time me and my dad were driving, some guy ina business suit and a bmw went out of his way to tell us "nice car" ill never forget that lol. I never thought i would have the car today... but i have loved 240's ever since then. When she sold it to me for 2 grand and 45000 miles on it i was the happiest man alive. Me and my friend ian now with ca18det ( s13crave) were the only ones really "into" 240's. Now people know what they are and some of our friends have seen the light, lol. We have my 95s14, an 89 s13 coupe, and 2 red fastbacks...one with CA one with SR. So our little group is steady. Thats my fairytale...;)

[old_s13]

I agree with Ruf, I dont like when people buy other products because "everyone" has a certain product. If something is good, and you like the product, buy it.

I see people changing their OEM parts for inferior parts ALL the time. People take high-quality OEM lamps, change them with altezza tail lights made of lesser quality plastic. I see people remove their 4300k HID bulbs for 8000k; more blue, less light. I see people install plug-in LED replacements in their tail lights; less light, quite unsafe.

A lot of people just dont understand quality. They dont understand how rare some of these parts are, or how difficult they are to come across, or how expensive GOOD quality materials cost. They are accustomed to either mass-produced Honda prices OR just dont know any better, and buy low-grade crap ALL the time. As a computer consultant, I also see it in this field.. people buy no-name brand sound and video cards and WONDER why their PC's dont function properly. Poor driver support, poor design, you name it..

The same thing happens in my business day in and day out. I am quite possibly the only person who offers highly customized lighting. People expect me to work on headlight assemblies which cost over $1000/ea new (for instance, 350Z headlamps w/ HID) but, at the same time they expect Honda Accord APC prices. Its as if they have no clue about details, liability, and craftsmanship.

[AKADriver]

Originally posted by ruf
Those that have to use physical items like cars, etc to validate self worth are just plain pitiful. A car is an object, a tool, not a crutch. Appreciate it for what it is, not what it makes people think of you.

Completely off the topic of this thread (which is silly anyway), as a car guy, I always find myself having to prove that this is the way I feel to non-car-people, especially when I had my somewhat showy looking GTI. I guess it goes to show how pervasive this mentality is, that most people see a guy in a fast car and think "he must be compensating for something."

Eh. The 240SX community will never be as totally fscked as the Neon community. Don't get me started there. The 240SX community is experiencing growing pains as the number of enthusiasts starts to tax the supply of cars and parts, but we started out with good people, a knowledge base was established before things went buckwild, and parts suppliers are honestly trying their best rather than trying to sabotage each other. If you think I'm joking about that last one, read the neons.org "dealers" forum.

The 240SX is one of a whole ton of cars that was always on my 'list'. A friend introduced me to his in... '97 or so, I didn't "fall in love" but I've always had the appreciation. I enjoy being a part of the 240SX community, I was active for a long time before I bought the car, and I will remain if I ever sell it. You could also say that I'm a "bandwagon" buyer - I bought my car in early spring 2002 because I wanted to get into serious performance driving, and suddenly this one car I'd always enjoyed was getting lots of attention for just that purpose. Of course most of the "bandwagon" crowd just wanted the track/drift image and don't have the stones to try it, while I bought my 240SX specifically because I wanted to try it and was afraid of balling up my GTI. Not that the 240SX is disposable, but if I'm going to feel the physical and emotional pain of trashing a car at the track, I'd rather not feel an economic sting as well.

[mbmbmb23]

Heres the article that stoked my interest in the 240sx. I'd always known the 240sx was cool looking (I used to hate S13's and love the S14a's.....now I own an S13)....but I also knew it was underpowered (for my tastes in RWD sports cars anyways). Then I saw this HKS powered KA (attached scan below)...and I was like....."yes....this is the last peice of the puzzle for me...looks PLUS improved power"...and I was hooked. I later fell in love with the S13's once I'd seen some that were actually in great condition (there are many beaters out there)...and I'd also seen some Japanese S13's with body kits and minimal wheel gap...and I was sold. I see this car getting popular due to many reasons. Since the internet has exploded (exploded after the S13 era), many of those cars that are/were tuned in Japan are being seen for the first time here. Since the car is getting older...it's more affordible now....especially to mod or engine swap with. I see the next craze being the Sc300/400 2JZGTE + manual tranny swap. As those early to mid 90's Lexus' get older and cheaper, they will change hands from the original owners who could afford them off the lot...to younger kids who can use them as project cars. This is what happened with the 240sx. Also....one of the other main reasons I see the 240sx as popular is that there is a huge availability of quality/exotic aftermarket tuner parts for the S13/S14 chassis....AND many other minor OEM swaps (Z32 brakes, R200 LSD, etc) are available. The 240sx is one of the only entry level RWD Japanese cars that can both handle and go fast for cheap.....and it relatively cheap to mod (compared to other imports), not to mention the insurance is listed as "compact economy" and NOT a 2 door sports car that is really should be...especially since the rear end can get squirly in the rain.

Anyways....I see the 240sx as an affordible, all around great car.

Here is the article that started it all for me.



http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid76/pe0792d41f1cf1fd3797cef8cf25b2120/fb42129b.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid76/p8485e9b19c836a090d12f92110dc1898/fb421295.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid76/p18246d743cc1c16f4992b1a98632f546/fb42128f.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid76/p2c8a471e9f6e98b4c6c3eac72b202faa/fb42128a.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid76/pa5810b00653e631a5da3c255bb056e04/fb421288.jpg


(the article pics are a bit small...if you are interested I can email them to you....they are like 300k each tho..so make sure your inbox can handle all of them)

-m

[nightwalker]

HA! I have that issue. I also have the Turbo issue that had that car featured as well. This is how I got into 240s...

Why does the dash on an 89 240 look so much nicer than the dash on my 89 accord, uh and my 92 integra... hmmm...

How come that 89 240 has better body lines than my 92 integra, and my friend's 94 integra... hmmm...

Sure wish I could do donuts...

Sure wish I could launch like that...

Sure like the torque in my friend's 240...

Wow, that HUD is tight...

Dad and Uncle says they like Cressidas and Supras cause they are rear wheel drive...

hey, how come there are so many 240s in this Japanese magazine.(1999)

sliding my 81 corolla in the dirt sure is fun...

basically all that led up to me buying a 240.

I am not completely stuck on the 240, I almost ended up with an 89 supra. My view is that the 240 is just about what you end up with when you want a light capable rear wheel drive import. I've always liked the way the S13s were styled. I hate the way S14s look, no offense to anyone, just my own opinion. If I didn't own a 240, I would probably have a miata, RX-7, or Supra. Read the quote below!!!

[NiteKids]

WOW I sure have to take a dump!

[S14Speed997]

I went to CARMAX looking for a new Honda Prelude in 2000(which I had wanted for YEARS). I walked out to the car lot, and this pearl white beauty was staring right at me...I hurried straight over to it, and fell in love. I had seen a few 240's before, only Zenki's, but this sexy a$$ 97-98 was the hottest thing I ever saw.....I wanted a test drive, and that is what made me look no further..We have been together ever since, and I plan on proposing next May. :boink: lol


Eric

[davidX]

i'm looking for a cheap fun daily driver with aftermarket support if i want to upgrade. i don't want 600rwhp and i don't want glowy lights and other stupid ****. and i like nissans reliable reputation. but i do notice with silvias plastered on every magazine more people will be drawn to this car. seems these days magazines can create a market for any car out there.

[rrobe99999]

I just bought my S14 and it already has the S14 SR20DET blcaktop. I would not have considered this car unless it had this kind of power potential. Yes, I was drawn in by the hype. Not to get on the bandwagon, but just making a good car buying decision. I also looked at M3s, but could not afford a good one. My last car was a 90 Z32 NA, and I planned on getting the 350Z, but spent all my money on a house. When the Z32 got too old to keep investing money into, I sold it and got the 240 to use as a DD until used 350Zs get in my price range. It was the most practical decision because its RWD, lighter, faster, less maintenance, better gas mileage, and cheaper insurance than the Z32. I thought this would help me save money for the 350Z, but I'm now hooked and plan to do some very expensive mods. When I'm done I probably won't even care about a 350Z anymore. This is my first turbo car, and I love it. Like Jekyl and hide, its a tame 4-banger most of the time but turns into a powerful monster when I floor it. I don't think I'll ever go NA again!

[russian]

Originally posted by Weird Styles
. Remind you, a good majority of you sit on the west coast, while I get rained on in Jersey. I would like to see a larger fan base becuase I want to work on my car with someone who knows wtf a KA24DE is and not just an SR. (Heeeeeeeeeyyy yyyouuu guuuuyssss)

Point four, :gives:


yea im stuck here in east texas, at least some people around you not just ws6 z28 rednecks.:tweak: :rant2: :eek2:

[ruf]

I love WS6... :)

[NZO]

If nothing else they sound badass as hell.

[Red]

Hmm reason for car.

I was driving a 79 GMC camper special (truck) big *** 454 (gulp gulp) I did the math and found the 6mpg I was getting could pay for a car loan... 300zx was out due to insurance rates...

So I looked in consumer reports and tried to fit in allot of cars. 6'4" does not fit in allot of small cars...

one day I saw a 93 240sx fastback... Took it for a test-drive (cuz I fit) and loved it. it was only 3.5k.... I wanted it so bad but it sold right after I got done test-driving it. (I did not have 3.5k at this time.

So after I got my new job paying double what I was making. I told a dealer to find me a 240sx... 1 month later he found one and gave me a call... So I bought it that night. (The one I have now)

I did not even know about mods until my friend with the max was looking at superchargers online....

That’s when I found info about the 240 and started the obsession!

[weirdstyles.net]

Originally posted by russian
yea im stuck here in east texas, at least some people around you not just ws6 z28 rednecks.:tweak: :rant2: :eek2:


Take the dirtiest part of redneck texas and you have Clayton, NJ. Which is ten minutes from my house. No one in my area truely respectes imports.

I wanna 98' Trans-Am WS6, i might get it too. But I dont like weight... so the MCS14 might have to do...with a LS1 :-)

[wingsnthangs]

I wonder how long this hype will last for this 5-14 year old car. This car is only getting older, only declining in numbers. And as we all know, the older cars get, the less desireable they become to the masses (ie 280ZX).

It's somewhat hard to imagine what car might be next, since there was a period of a couple years when affordable RWD import sports cars lost its appeal to the public. RX7 got shut down in 1995, 300ZX in 96, 240SX in 98, MR2 in 95, and Supra in 98. And until 2000+, this sports car trend was revived. Of course the FWD sporty econoboxes flourished (Integra, Civic, Celica, Eclipse). Gotta give props to the Miata, which survived the decade. What's next? Will there be a next favorite?

[mbmbmb23]

When IS300's get cheaper they will blow up like 240sx's did....so will the SC300's and SC400's......all of these with 2JZ's swapped in.





-m

[weirdstyles.net]

Originally posted by wingsnthangs
I wonder how long this hype will last for this 5-14 year old car. This car is only getting older, only declining in numbers. And as we all know, the older cars get, the less desireable they become to the masses (ie 280ZX).

It's somewhat hard to imagine what car might be next, since there was a period of a couple years when affordable RWD import sports cars lost its appeal to the public. RX7 got shut down in 1995, 300ZX in 96, 240SX in 98, MR2 in 95, and Supra in 98. And until 2000+, this sports car trend was revived. Of course the FWD sporty econoboxes flourished (Integra, Civic, Celica, Eclipse). Gotta give props to the Miata, which survived the decade. What's next? Will there be a next favorite?

existing car favorites will probably be as mbmbmb23 said, the lexus serious. The 300 and 400 series Lexus. SC and GS Lexus will be the next fad, check out the Lextreme fourms, they're small now and i bet they blow up. The 1UZGE SC400 is going to hit the market hard, cause you can now find em for about 11,000 which, up to a few months ago, was roughly the same price as a mild milage MCS14. The difference being +4 cyls and the ability to S/C the mother-humper. Whats holding the 400 back is the lack of a turbo aftermarket. And in steps its little brother, the SC300. The TT-Supra swap is the next big thing, Ill put money on it. Sh*t dizzle, I was lookin at the 300/400 series just a few days ago. Im looking at a SC400, SC300, 98 T/A WS6 or a MCS14 and Im loosing my mind!

As for the new fads, just look at the market, shes heading FR again. 350Z, SC430, G35, RX8. Now, a good majority of us cant afford a 30-50k car at the moment, but we are in the infancy of the Import Horse Power Wars '03. Hopefully it will turn out like the domestic wars of the 70's, bad *** cars hitting the streets, the next always hitting a higher hp/tq level with a lower price...

I truely beleive within the next 5 years we will see some of the highest Import horse power levels to hit the US shores. No, I dont beleive the USDM AWD TT Skyline GTR36 will end up in any of our driveways, nor will the 240 experience a rebirth in 2006, but I seriously think were about to see some serious **** from the Import scene. And the scary part; when they become used imports at $7-$11,000, they will one day end up with our kids in the seat. Wadda think about that Mark?

[aznpoopy]

scary... inexperience + rwd + manual tranny + lots of hp/tq = lots of dead kids.

[russian]

Originally posted by Weird Styles
Take the dirtiest part of redneck texas and you have Clayton, NJ. Which is ten minutes from my house. No one in my area truely respectes imports.

I wanna 98' Trans-Am WS6, i might get it too. But I dont like weight... so the MCS14 might have to do...with a LS1 :-)


2 things i want out of domestic market.:

great condition z28 1991-92 love that bodystyle yo!
95 mustang saleen.

all domestics (almost) handle like **** stock, so have to spend on suspension:)

[weirdstyles.net]

Originally posted by russian
2 things i want out of domestic market.:

great condition z28 1991-92 love that bodystyle yo!
95 mustang saleen.

all domestics (almost) handle like **** stock, so have to spend on suspension:)

Well, you have to look at the possibilites. If you want to really look at it, every car handles like **** stock as opposed to how they CAN handle when you dump money into them. Im going to put x,000 dollars into the suspension of any car, domestic or import. Simply becase you always want it to be better than what you started with. Like I said, Im looking for a car. So I have been on Lextreme fourms, a t/a forum and all sorts of other ****, trying to figure out what the possibilities are for each car. I havnt, however, learned a great deal on the suspension of the SC series Lexus.

[russian]

they make tons of stuff for lexus. my friend has a ls400 (??) not sure the model its the newer smaller sports sedan,local dealership even gave him catalogue with all kinds of aftermarket parts for suspension and aero.

your right about any stock car. what i tried to say is that f-bodies especially suck as far as stock suspension, which definately needs to be modded if you wanna do more than get groceries.

ridin' in a stock ws6 is fun but i tell you i was scared to really push it on the corners, too much body roll. but torque wise its great

[weirdstyles.net]

Originally posted by russian
they make tons of stuff for lexus. my friend has a ls400 (??) not sure the model its the newer smaller sports sedan,local dealership even gave him catalogue with all kinds of aftermarket parts for suspension and aero.

your right about any stock car. what i tried to say is that f-bodies especially suck as far as stock suspension, which definately needs to be modded if you wanna do more than get groceries.

ridin' in a stock ws6 is fun but i tell you i was scared to really push it on the corners, too much body roll. but torque wise its great

1. Good step in the lexus direction

2. O god the f-body suspension sucks... damn right!

3. I heard their a b*tch in the corners, real quick to let loose in light rain. That doesnt REALLY surprise me, as they balance has to be like 70/30. Outside the frame and body, the only real weight you have in the rear is the differential and the axel.

[russian]

ws6 pulls some serios a$$ tho. booty loves dem curves. it a blast to drive have to take corners slow. last year i almost drifted off the road taking a turn lol. i should have done my friend a favor and total it, he couldnt sell it to anyone for the right price lol, but the insuarance would have covered it all if i totaled it.*sigh* so much for the trip to get cigarettes. people who drive around hear think they are unbeatable. riiiight, they cant keep up with me on a curvy road:aw:

[russian]

Originally posted by Weird Styles
Outside the frame and body, the only real weight you have in the rear is the differential and the axel.


which makes it no different then any truck:rawk: :tweak:

[Bill Roberts]

Back in 1989...a very serious owner for a holdings company (gold) and me were bar hopping pals. We both have the same last name but are not related...and he looks like Chevy Chase to the point people come up to him...Big guy..Anyway, He and his business partner both had S-13's and I said...that car looks nice Man...he says "get in" and he took me for a little spin...I was impressed by how it could take a curve..power not bad...but he did not tax it. Anyway It stuck in my mind because I said...dude you are a big guy and why did you guys pick that car? He said..RWD, I fit, it looks great, drives great and best of all..it is Japanese!

Well after my Divorce, I was basically car-less and a buddy I met over the web Had one..that was simply sitting since him and his Wife just had a baby...the car was no use to him. It was available and I bought it. It had plenty of problems. Cars like ours should NEVER be worked on by a jack leg mechanic shop. The tend to leave out screws, ghetto rig things and basically don't give a Schnitt. So...I had to get busy and make this car into something that was reliable...but to a point. Since I got it..I dumpped about 4G in it to keep it where it needs to be. I could spend much more but like many said here..it is not just about a car...it is meeting people with a common intrest..I was happy to find Zilvia and Zilvia and the members have been a blessing. I have a general care about this car...most cars I have owned have stayed in very respectable condition and I see no reason to get rid of my car...even though I would like to have either a clean 92-94 Corvette, or a 2002-2003 Camrey...AND the 240SX.

I am amazed at its late popularity. More people come up to me and ask about it that when I had my 94ZR-1 Corvette!

[Bill Roberts]

To Wings and things..

The Hot mama will be the G35 Coupe Infinity

It is a vastly updated (2door) version of our 240SX.

I saw one today, talked to the owner...a really nice car...perhaps in 6 years when the price comes down to earth...I would like to own one.

It was black...had a nasty growl when cranked and reved and reeked of badness.

http://www.infiniti.com/content/model/ModelSpecifications/0,,30568,00.html


This is a car you could fall in love with.

[ruf]

Originally posted by Bill Roberts
It is a vastly updated (2door) version of our 240SX.No. Unless you mean "overweight" when you say "updated"...

[Bill Roberts]

Given 280HP VS 155 and 3400 VS 2700...it is definitly updated..HP makes up for all the weight PLUS safety and stability of it all.

Trade me even...I would forget my 240 right now.

[nightwalker]

I glad I'm not the only one that thinks the 350z/G35 is a new incarnation of our car, (so its a new skyline, who cares) much more so than the 300zx. The body lines and styling of the car lend more to the 240 (the G35 more so than the Z, actually its more like 280z, 240sx, 300zx, and slight skyline all smushed up into one). One day, a couple years later from now, I would like a G35 too. Looooooove the way that car looks. Very nice and sleek.

[wingsnthangs]

Originally posted by Bill Roberts
To Wings and things..

The Hot mama will be the G35 Coupe Infinity

It is a vastly updated (2door) version of our 240SX.

I saw one today, talked to the owner...a really nice car...perhaps in 6 years when the price comes down to earth...I would like to own one.

It was black...had a nasty growl when cranked and reved and reeked of badness.

http://www.infiniti.com/content/model/ModelSpecifications/0,,30568,00.html


This is a car you could fall in love with.

Bill,

1. How bout I dont slander your name and you try not to slander mine. :)
2. G35 wont be the next big thing for quite some time because the affordability will not come for years. Sure it took 240SX roughly 12 or so years to blow up like this, but it came out as a $20K car. G35 is a $35K car. Plus luxury cars are not often favorites, at least not with import junkies that swap out engines like no other. But then again, Japanese luxury cars is a relatively new concept. But hey, who knows. The future is hardly predictable.

The body lines and styling of the car lend more to the 240 (the G35 more so than the Z, actually its more like 280z, 240sx, 300zx, and slight skyline all smushed up into one).
The G35 and the Z use the same FM platform. If you trace the shadow of the 350Z, it will be very similar to the G35.

[Jsquared]

I got into the "240 scene" or whatnot late 2000/early 2001. i have had the same FWD family sedan (Audi 90 5cyl, 5spd) since high school, and as much as i liked the car, i wanted something that would satisfy my nerd car guy craving :D i LOVED 3rd-gen RX-7s and Porsche 944 turbos, but since my dad already had a 944 turbo, that brought the list to the FD. obviously that was out of my financial league :cry: love for the rotary got me into 2nd-gens (in my price range, yay!), and i've always liked MR2s (mid-engine = 0wn5 you). i also was in love with the idea of a turbo Miata, but i knew i'd basically stay NA for a while until i could afford boost (oh darn :) miatas are so freakin fun to drive stock anyway). i started learning about the 240 since i knew one or two people who had them, knew it was a pretty decent car, knew it handled fairly well, didn't know how well until i started researching it. didn't have the power or the power potential i wanted though (even though i wasn't going to explore the power side of things for a while, and the KA-T wasn't really talked about much, at least not where i was looking :D), but then after finding this "silvia" thing on Gran Turismo, i was like, "hey that looks like a 240SX coupe in the back." found out about how the cars were sold in Japan (and Europe) with factory-turboed engines, hopped on the internet, and found Heavy Throttle's website. immediately hooked. fast forward to early 2003. finally had the money to get a car (cash loan from teh bank :axe: ), found a few nice Miatas, couldn't decide whether to get a local Miata or fly out to like Wisconsin or Missouri to get a MR2 turbo, when a local acquaintance notified me that his friend was looking to sell his coupe that had blown it's KA. the rest, is history

[sykikchimp]

I test drove a g35 coupe and felt like I was driving a minivan with a lot of horsepower. Fast, but unexciting. I'm totally spoiled by the tossability of the 240sx.

[Fastback180]

Really? My neighbor got a black one. The g35S. It kinda almost like there's flowmasters on there. I hear him pull up and it sounds like a 5.0 I haven't test driven one, but I'll just take it from you.

[SilviaSR20DET]

Im not new to the 240 scene due to the fact that my parents bought my sister a brand new 97 240sx back in 1997. I fell in love with it because of how it looked and felt when driven and also no other car looked like it. I didnt get the 97 240 until like i was 16 which was in around 2001 or so then i started to fix my car up. Right now i own another 240 which is a 96 and have a whole collection of silvias. I have three silvias so far, the 87 200sx, 97 240sx and a 96 240sx. But one thing i know for sure is that 240s became more popular starting from early 2003 cause it took me so long to find just a 96 240 which arent too hard to find considering the 97-98.

[blxmjx]

I test drove the g35 coupe too. It felt pretty good for a car of its size. Nothing close in respect to my s2k but better than I had expected. Interior wasnt that great though. Doesnt come close to the interior in my s4.

[Sundi240]

I was in HS, drove a 86 Honda Prelude. Wanted something with power, RWD, looks, and relatively cheap. Found the 240SX through research...not FnF or magazines. Saved throughout HS and for 2 years after....realized that working at a minimum wage job would never get me an S14 (dont like S13s) so I bought a 1991 Mustang GT for half the price. Lots of power outta the box, RWD, looks great, and is cheap....guess I found everything I was looking for :D

[KiDyNomiTe]

To lazy to read all this but Drifing will be the thing for a little while, people will start drifting more expensive cars.

I got into 240s cuz it was a cheap import that looked nice.
Then while researching all this other **** came about (RWD, close to 50/50 wieght, srs, blah blah blah). B/w MR2s and 240s, i find a lot of people on this board and on mr2 boards choose between 240s and mr2s.

Soarer will hit big soon, there are a few out there but not a lot. Mainly due to the whole finding them in manual. But people like auto 2jzs. Once a few more cases pop up and the mags cover em, they'll blow up. Nothing like the 240 though, not enough SCs.

RBs will start making thier way into a lot of cars soon G35s and 350zs mainly.

[brianglawson]

i really agree with alot of you i think the hype came from the magazines such as import tuner and sport compact car.

fro me personally no be forgiven(im 16) no lie the first thing i ever read fully was actually a road and track(with some help of my dad) but i cant remeber which issue it was but it was in like 1991-92
and me and him were looking through it and i really truley liked cars at that age and still do but anyways we were going through it and the first thing we saw was a mercedes 300e, and i was like wow what an awesome car you know leather wood big classy and i remeber dad saying he wanted one because he had always had benz's and he loved this body of them and now go figure we own on of them:) and then a few pages later we ran across a white 240sx coupe and i thought it was cool as hell i was like 4 or 5 at the time and dad always had me watching dtm racing and i looked at that coupe body and it had a little spoiler on the back of it and it made me think of that racing and i fell in love with them. as i was about 8 or 9 my grandfather who had multiple scroliosis(cant spell it) was on his computer thats all he did since he couldnt walk and he new i liked them so he brought up some old pictures of a silvia that he found and i went crazy i thought it was just awesome at about the same time the s14's were coming out and i was into them too but man after seeing those silvias i was hooked well about a yerar ago dad got me a ragged 1972 datsun 240z to restore and put a v8 in well as i researched and i found the rb26dett and was hooked on that idea and dad was too so we post poned the z seeing as how it was to much money for the time limit we had (we are still slowly going at it) and he said he was gonna find me another car and bammmm the thought hit me and i looked in the local newspaer and there was a white 1992 240sx coupe se with a blown motor for 720$ we went to check it out and got it for 575$ and now we are getting really close to the sr swap and the silvia conversion and a respray of white paint and my basic dream car will be at my hands

sorry for the long story i just got in to it what can i say i love 240's z's and sx's :blah::blah::blah:

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