Fenders rolled? YES PLEASE!

[Dousan_PG]

WOOT i just got my fender roller from wheelchoice.com
brand new..350 USD.
im going to roll mine and a bunch of friends to learn and then others for $$$$ :) 100 bucks a car all 4 corners
anyways, just happy to FINALLY be able to roll my fenders. i might do it this week, try to get it done before the 240sx meet this weekend....that is all, back to your regularly programming.

[Steeles]

damn you man!!! lol whens the bodywork gonna be done? and find my rev speed info!!!! :axe: :hammer: :bash:

[Dousan_PG]

haha..i lost my manual (no surprise) you should call apex'i usa) i asked my friend, seems u have to do the math with tiresize and all..i think haha..i dont know for sure
sorry!

body work..blaaah who knows. i want more wheels. i want 2 sets of FN01RC (they are SOOO CHEAAAAAP!!!)

[Steeles]

Originally posted by dousan36
haha..i lost my manual (no surprise) you should call apex'i usa) i asked my friend, seems u have to do the math with tiresize and all..i think haha..i dont know for sure
sorry!

body work..blaaah who knows. i want more wheels. i want 2 sets of FN01RC (they are SOOO CHEAAAAAP!!!)

I know I was thinking of picking up two 18's for the rear!!

place near me had the greddy speed eliminator I may pick up. blah I need to find a deal on a power FC cheap cheap. find me one lol

[240Dave]

http://www.homehardware.com/images/2x4.jpg
:coolugh:

[Dousan_PG]

http://www.wheelchoice.com/wheel05.htm

boards? hahaha.
i've seen cars rolled w/ bats and boards...looks like CRAP
im a perfectionist, sorry im not ghetto

[SilviaDriver]

haha koo. wanna roll my rear ones for me? :p front ones are fiberglass..doubt u can roll em..haha

[Dousan_PG]

Originally posted by SilviaDriver
front ones are fiberglass..doubt u can roll em..haha

put them under my front wheels and ill prove you wrong, son

[itsybitsy240sxEy]

hehe. niice.


oh, you left your FSM at danny's house dummy!

[TBreu007]

I rolled mine by beating on them repeatedly with a hammer and they look fine (of course this was before it was painted).

The basebally bat actually works really well, but I didn't have one when it was time to roll mine.

[Dousan_PG]

Originally posted by itsybitsy240sxEy
hehe. niice.


oh, you left your FSM at danny's house dummy!

no i dont think so..did i when? i got one on my front seat right now..i think it smine..ill check..going off memory, i used it monday night at brian's house when installed TC rods and such..

hammer dose work bettre, just patience is key! :) better then bat technique..

yes and need repaint with those ways..fender roller, no repaint (unless paint is all old and brtittle and already chipped..more likely to break

[SilviaDriver]

Originally posted by dousan36
put them under my front wheels and ill prove you wrong, son

aah..is that a challenge!? them fightin words! i glady accept..see..i said i see u at dawn.

haha ull juss sand down the fiberglass

[RBBaby]

1) what is rolling a fender

2) after I find out about 1 im gonna have a hell of a lot more questions.

[ShortGuy622]

3) can we see some pics of a rolled fender?

[Dousan_PG]

http://www.bmwdiy.info/fender-rolling/


http://www.mygarageinc.com/FenderRolling.htm


http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/techarticles/9995/


look in the gallery. see those SUPER FLUSH wheels on cars? fender rolling REQUIRED
tucked wheels....REQUIRED

wide tires? required.

[Heartwork]

http://www.robsaudiworld.com/fender.htm

Just cause its a fender roller that looks simple to use doesnt mean it really is easy.....takes alot of time and patience to use this thing.....heat up fenders, roll, heat up fender, roll, do it with equal precision, etc....dont think its easy to use...

i had this tool for a week and roleld aquite a few of my friends fenders, it worked pretty well when used correctly, but really does beat you up....it's a very cheap alternative to pulling fenders or widebody, fender flares etc, and gets the job done.....thats what alot of guys in Germany use to "pull" their fenders, but keep in mind you cant pull too far on "stock" fenders, usually around 15mm-25mm or so which is farily enough......after that point, the metal fenders do get kind of flimsy and could only go so far...then thats when you have to actually "pull", weld, add fender flares etc, if you wanted wider than that....i went through these processes several times on my car and friends cars...

[Heartwork]

This is truly going to revolutionize fender rolling! [/B]

they have been for many years in Germany and Japan....
this guy patented the fender rolling machine in Germany a few years ago and made a ton of money off of them....a few years ago, about 5-7 years ago they used to be about $600-750 for one!

my friend was lucky enough to go to Germany and pick one up for a couple hundred and bring it back here a couple years ago....
its not exactly new, just very very hard to get a hold of until recently

[fiebru1119]

so you can pull fenders w/that thing??

[bobmeindertsma]

so does it actually flare out your fenders
so that your monster 10" tires dont rub
against the newly fabricated fender?
just want to clarify

[NZO]

Setup shop at D1 and rake it in :)

[old_s13]

Originally posted by James
www.vtec.net/articles/view-article?article_id=3511

$350 vs. baseball bat
$100 vs. baseball bat

Whoah, thousands of guys have been doing it ghetto for years- thank you Dousan for showing us the correct non-ghetto way! :D
This is truly going to revolutionize fender rolling!

edit: where do I buy one again? hehe:D

some people like to roll their blunts by hand, some like to roll them with a machine.. lets just remember one thing, I'll roll ALL you bitches up in my wraps and SMOKE EVERY LAST ONE OF YA!'

me? I havent decided.. but I can tell you I dont roll my blunts with a baseball bat, because that shiet is ghetto.

i think it comes down to SKILL, it doesnt matter if you have a baseball bat or a rolling "machine" (yeah whatever, that **** is no machine, its just a bolted down roller).. it all comes down to having that "tender touch" .. oh yes, and i do have that tender touch.

just remember folks, you have to play ruff to get the muff..

[nightwalker]

thats weird that this was posted about the fender rolling. I was just kicking it with my friends today, and I guess they found out that one of the Kragens is getting a hold of that fender roller, plus they are renting it, so we're going to have a fender rolling party. Yeah, get drunk and roll a bunch of fenders. Will prove interesting, I'll post pics when we're done. We're going to see how far we can roll my friend's mom's civic.:axe:

[fooddude]

Sounds like my kind of party!!! Yo Dousan, you should throw a fender rolling party too! I'll bring the beer bong.

[chokudoriS13]

Mine got rolled with a bat a few days ago... No issues with cracked paint or damage.

[Dousan_PG]

im going to try and roll them today...maybe pull it a tad too, not sure.

see how it goes, ill get some pics too if i can.

hmm fender roller party or make money rolling your fenders? hahaha..that's not even a question to be asked :p

i need to make my $350 back!!! that was almost as much as my bride brix seat! i'd rather have another seat to go w/ the one i got!

[Steeles]

you dont need two sell me the other brix at that price.. greedy bastich!! lol

[CleanS14]

Originally posted by dousan36
hmm fender roller party or make money rolling your fenders? hahaha..that's not even a question to be asked :p

i need to make my $350 back!!!

Shoot you can roll mine Aaron... I'll need it trying to fit my new shoes on after the car gets out of the paint booth. Let me know wasssup. Oh yes and I will contribute to getting you your $350 back

-Jay

[Dousan_PG]

when im up in norcal, ill let you know
gotta meet up w/ silviadriver too! woot!
:)

[RBBaby]

YOU GOT A BRIX FOR $350!?!?!? WHAT?!?! GIMMEGIMMEGIMME!

[Dousan_PG]

Originally posted by RBBaby
YOU GOT A BRIX FOR $350!?!?!? WHAT?!?! GIMMEGIMMEGIMME!

ya 400 bucks actually with the help of a few friends (yeswepromsie for his passenger seat and sam for selling me the seat on their website)

the brix:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid74/p8b66098d7059fc785542cb63151e6299/fb62b3c3.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid74/p5b71ffed344a27519709387c50e41f98/fb62b369.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid74/pc6578a528196feed8cbcfda4d6a84421/fb62b310.jpg

before i was borrowing this one from dorifto180sx:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid67/p0b8d33c4755a3e80bb7338a8c759488b/fbd657e3.jpg

thats his seat, used paid 650 but its in perfect shape..until i borrowed it ..red seats become dirty fast haha..

[Steeles]

ewwww skid marks!!!! nasty!!! lol yeah the black and gray looks MUCHO better in your ride dousan. I dont know about after the paint job though.... guess I'll have to wait and see it.

[NZO]

Aye, let us know when youre up here so you can hook it up. Group discount? :D

[Dousan_PG]

hhmm
if i get enough people i just wanna break even


so far only got 4 people lined up
im -$380 right now (bought heat gun today)
hehe..

[nokeone]

Originally posted by dousan36
when im up in norcal, ill let you know
gotta meet up w/ silviadriver too! woot!
:)

hell yeah, i'm down too...and i know Scott is as well and Nic with his FC3S...

also we could subcontract you out of the Shop for like a week and easily make you $400..we have people asking us to do it all the time..and the baseball bat thing is gettin old...plus it doesn't exactly inspire confidence with the customers..lol..;)

[Dousan_PG]

REALLY! i might just spend a couple weekends at the parents house. just one request people LEAVE their car adn go away. i hate when people harp over your shoulder "now what are you doing? is that right...." etc. etc etc..

we can split some profit too. damn this was a sweet buy

maybe all the norcal guys can meet at Full Speed :) hehehe..

ill check what my schedule is. im going to try and do my car tonight, driftingpanda and itsybitsy this weekend, ny_jee this weekend, some other friends during wekk..should get a good 10 cars in before i really start doing other people's car..i want to make sure i know what im doing :p want to be able to pull out fender as well (rear flare)

edit: i need money..need Sr and paint job hahahaha

[nokeone]

Originally posted by dousan36
REALLY! i might just spend a couple weekends at the parents house. just one request people LEAVE their car adn go away. i hate when people harp over your shoulder "now what are you doing? is that right...." etc. etc etc..

yeah i feel ya...i can't stand when people watch me working on their cars...i'm like don't worry how i get it done...just know the finished product will be perfect...because i'm a perfectionist..always makes me nervous when they watch...lol

Originally posted by dousan36
we can split some profit too. damn this was a sweet buy

maybe all the norcal guys can meet at Full Speed :) hehehe..

tell ya what...if we have everyone who is going to have it done meet at Full Speed first then you can keep all the profits just for the advertising and exposure we will get from them meeting there initially..plus for some odd reason you are admired, respected, and emulated on this board..lol..therefor where you go, others will too...;)..

Originally posted by dousan36
ill check what my schedule is. im going to try and do my car tonight, driftingpanda and itsybitsy this weekend, ny_jee this weekend, some other friends during wekk..should get a good 10 cars in before i really start doing other people's car..i want to make sure i know what im doing :p want to be able to pull out fender as well (rear flare)

edit: i need money..need Sr and paint job hahahaha

sounds good man...keep me posted and i'll make sure i have at least 5 cars lined up for the first weekend you will be up here if you feel comfortable doing it by then...:)

[Dousan_PG]

WOO HOOO! my mom is FINALLy retiring (my dad just retired this year too) anwyays..ill be up there on the weekend of the September 26th for sure...

might be before but then for sure. before lining anything up, let me make sure i can do this well haha..we'll keep in touch bud. you got my phone number right?

make sure u got a nice FULL SPEED sticker for me ok? :) i dont mine rocking it on my car, you guys are great people. Support local (small/private) business is what i say!! :)

[fooddude]

Ya...I totally agree! That is THE WORST, when someone is always looking at how your working on their car. That is why I refuse to work on anybodies car, even if it's a friend or even a close friend. It makes it worse when it's a friend cuz it's harder to be a dick about the situation. I have a lot of friends, and none(and I mean NONE) of them know how to work on cars, but some of them have "lowered racer imports" and they always see me wrenching on my car and ask me to install sh*t for them..I've done it a few times in the past, and now I gotta refuse. Especially coilovers on friends cars,...stop asking me to adjust your coilovers!!!! I show them and teach them and they are retarded and don't wanna learn I guess! Fuk*n retards...don't fix up your ghey car if you can't do a damn thing to it yourself!

:hammer: :bash: :axe:

[nokeone]

Originally posted by dousan36
WOO HOOO! my mom is FINALLy retiring (my dad just retired this year too) anwyays..ill be up there on the weekend of the September 26th for sure...

might be before but then for sure. before lining anything up, let me make sure i can do this well haha..we'll keep in touch bud. you got my phone number right?

make sure u got a nice FULL SPEED sticker for me ok? :) i dont mine rocking it on my car, you guys are great people. Support local (small/private) business is what i say!! :)

haha...yeah i'll wait until you feel confident in your skills before making promises to the masses..

and i'll make sure i have a couple different stickers ready for ya so you can pick the color you want to go with your scheme..lol..cause i know you're picky..:p...and i really appreciate the compliment and gesture..you're def one of the coolest, most mellow and chill guys i've met so far in this "scene" so your support means alot..

[old_s13]

Originally posted by fooddude
Ya...I totally agree! That is THE WORST, when someone is always looking at how your working on their car. That is why I refuse to work on anybodies car, even if it's a friend or even a close friend. It makes it worse when it's a friend cuz it's harder to be a dick about the situation. I have a lot of friends, and none(and I mean NONE) of them know how to work on cars, but some of them have "lowered racer imports" and they always see me wrenching on my car and ask me to install sh*t for them..I've done it a few times in the past, and now I gotta refuse. Especially coilovers on friends cars,...stop asking me to adjust your coilovers!!!! I show them and teach them and they are retarded and don't wanna learn I guess! Fuk*n retards...don't fix up your ghey car if you can't do a damn thing to it yourself!

:hammer: :bash: :axe:

hell yeah, i love hearing anger.. thats good shiet.

I say, PHUCK everyone who pays to have their cars worked on. If you're a man, get yourself some damn tools and get off your 4ss, bitaaaaaaaaaaatch! we need more angry people in this world.

I swear, I think people who DONT work on their cars are the 4ssholes who complain about work being done improperly.. always complaining.

"Its the lawyers and the politicians, THEY're the ones controlling this country.. " "you know what tony, you really are an as-ho maing"

haha

[Dousan_PG]

well folks, i did it

did the driver side first
being the idiot i am, i didnt use enough heat and the paint cracked some..no worries, still rolled it and it pulled about 2mm or so

did passenger TONS of heat hahaha...much easier and came out much nicer. still need WAY more practice. got my godo friend, NY_JEE lined up for sunday so s14.see how that goes :)

that is all..pics? one day. check it out at the meet saturday!!!

me:

black hair (might be wearing hat ut probably not)...jet black (yes its natural)
black squareish glasses
usually button up collar shirt

pepole say i look like art student
ask alex, benson, sam..etc who i am..they know me.

thanks!

my car is burgundy w/ blue front fenders (wolverine) and blitz type 03 wheels (borrowing fromo yeswepromise) and a bride brix driver seat.

only the rear fenders rolled so check out the passenger side..my first attempt at rolling. must perfect skills. :p

[Drift Style S14]

so you absoutly have to roll your fenders to get that nice super flush look? wouldn't it be possible to get the look with spacers?

[Dousan_PG]

Originally posted by Drift Style S14
so you absoutly have to roll your fenders to get that nice super flush look? wouldn't it be possible to get the look with spacers?

no because super flush is supre low too (car ride height) so when your suspension compresses...bam!!!! your wheel/tire hits the fender

[RBBaby]

dousan I'll give you 400 in about 2 months for your used brix. or 450 for a new one. or whatever.

[MarvynDT]

I'm curious, but does Tirerack still rent the roller out? I mean it would be cheaper to rent, than to buy. Unless you have inspiring dreams as an entrepeneur.

EDIT: Nevermind. I just read that the rental list is booked for 6 months.

[mrmephistopheles]

*waits patiently for his turn to roll*

[Dousan_PG]

RB: give me 1000 for a new one.


i hope you are joking...you think i'd sell my brix for that? im at the track regularly, think im downgrading to a sparco sprint or something? HAHAHAHAHAH




yes tirerack does..400 dollar deposit, hwen i called in jan this year, it was checked out and such till july 2003


entrepenuer? hahah..just some money on the side. you have no idea how many fender rolling i gots to do. im gonna have arms the size of cannons when im done :p

mrmephistopheles..we'll work out a date to do that for the cars. ;)

[mrmephistopheles]

sweet.. NO hurry, dude. Plus, I'll have to watch one or two rollings to see how to do it right. :D

[ruf]

Originally posted by mrmephistopheles
I'll have to watch one or two rollings to see how to do it right. :D Extra charge. Just like plumbers and mechanics do. :p

[mrmephistopheles]

hahah
NO
:D
You're coming out for D1, yes? I'll finally get to meet you. I PROMISE I won't drive past LA and call you 2 hours later. ugh, i still feel so stupid for doing that.

[ruf]

Nah. I'm going to fly to Norcal and call. "What do you mean it's at Irwindale? Dammit!"

[RBBaby]

Originally posted by dousan36

i hope you are joking

um.... duh.

[MarvynDT]

entrepenuer? hahah..just some money on the side. you have no idea how many fender rolling i gots to do. im gonna have arms the size of cannons when im done Hmmmmm...Maybe I should buy one and cover the northeast area.

[GTGuy06]

Maybe I should buy one and cover the northeast area.

How much does it cost to buy one??

[nokeone]

Originally posted by GTGuy06
How much does it cost to buy one??

Originally posted by dousan36
WOOT i just got my fender roller from wheelchoice.com
brand new..350 USD.

hmmmm...from the VERY 1st post in this thread...:rolleyes:

;)

[GTGuy06]

Originally posted by nokeone
hmmmm...from the VERY 1st post in this thread...:rolleyes:

;)

sry, im trying to read this while my comp prog teacher is talking, and i dont feel like getting in trouble. i not very observent

[Dousan_PG]

here's the rear. wont do my fronts, because getting wide front fenders soon but..the rear will be pulled more

i found out, if your rear alignment is out its SO MUCH more difficult to do.. :(
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid75/p2d625e9f00c6dc4437751a12da190415/fb4cd69a.jpg

add orig.jpg to end of the properties of that pic when if you copy and paste it for full size

(my car is 100% perfect toe..)

[JasonNagra]

AWESOME! So you can do the pulling out of the fender thing we talked about! Sweeeeeeet!! Its really ony important for me to have that in the rear because theres not as much adjustability there for me (No RUCA) and also that WILL clear the 15x7 0 offset. The better you get at it, th eeasier and better it will be too! Yes. This is good.

Oh,and I geuss I should get the rear aligned before hand eh?

[Dousan_PG]

ya for me, to pull it it needs to be aligned. im no expert at this. if the toe is all wacky the flare out wont be as even (judge by eye, which isnt as accurate. :(

that's why mineis pretty even. i mgith pull it more i migth not. waiting for new wheels..blah blah

[JasonNagra]

Well in the back I would like to have it like this, Im sure eventually youll be able too:

[JasonNagra]

And in the front like this:

[Dousan_PG]

sheeet man, that would take me all day but ya should be doable. jsut takes a lot of time

i found f the front fenders
get wide replacments. front rolling is a joke. the metal is so thin its hard to get it like the back. and u cant really pulli t. stock is already kinda 'flared' out
the metal is so thin. i'd hate to roll front s13..its thinner then 240sx

[JasonNagra]

So the fronts are a waste of time to roll? Well I would just liked em pulled out to the max. Also the S13 is thinner than 240, u mean S14? I really dont want to do body work lik that...

Im really glad that you can do it in the rear, that will look awesome. :drool:

[Dousan_PG]

front is pointless
i mean s13 silvia fendesr are crappy thin
the usdm s13 fronts are bit thicker

but they are junk too
did my friends..blah. sucked. anyways, i hate doing front
wide front fenders are the way to go i suggest these :)

http://www.jspec.com/s14koukiwide.html

(these are the ones im getting)

[JasonNagra]

Thanks Aaron. You are hooking it up with the fender roller. Let me know when you have time. I wont be free till next month, so Ill hit you up for sure.

[nokeone]

Originally posted by dousan36
front is pointless
i mean s13 silvia fendesr are crappy thin
the usdm s13 fronts are bit thicker

but they are junk too
did my friends..blah. sucked. anyways, i hate doing front
wide front fenders are the way to go i suggest these :)

http://www.jspec.com/s14koukiwide.html

(these are the ones im getting)

those are VERY sweet...:)..can't wait to see your car next time you are up here...although i'm sure all it will do is inspire me to spend more money..lol..

[holisticbeatz]

yo Aaron! Is this service still available? If so, I may require it.

This thread is old..

[DRFT]

iirc he doesn't do it anymore, or was it heartwork. i ferget,:confused:

[Dousan_PG]

ya i dont do it anymore
my roller is getting sent off to friends in GA, NC, NJ and FL next probably for most of this year.

[mrmephistopheles]

you SUCK aaron. You NEVER rolled my fenders OR Lisa's.. It's aight.. i see where the love is... :wtc:

[Dousan_PG]

rolling idont even use that thing
just hammer and heat gun/flame torch
takes 2 hours for whole car

pulling...that's another story

[NiteKids]

Originally posted by mrmephistopheles
you SUCK aaron. You NEVER rolled my fenders OR Lisa's.. It's aight.. i see where the love is... :wtc:

What width and offset wheels are you using? How bad is your rubbing?

[mbmbmb23]

Originally posted by Dousan_PG
ya i dont do it anymore
my roller is getting sent off to friends in GA, NC, NJ and FL next probably for most of this year.

Dousan, please let me know when the roller is in NC, I'll have to make it over and get mine rolled.


thanks,


-m

[CoasTek240]

yeah when its in NC, i'd like to get a hold of em with ya.
i'm gonna need that b4 i can put my rims on.
i'd be willing to float some $ your way, dousan

[Dousan_PG]

no
the fender roller is not going to people's houses but my friends who i trust (mostly pink godzira and some other guys i know)

soooo its up to them to say where it is or how long its there for.

[Steeles]

well I damn well better get a call when it hits NC! :D I wanna pull mine just a hair till I get wheels big enough to warrent me running flares :)

[mbmbmb23]

Originally posted by Dousan_PG
no
the fender roller is not going to people's houses but my friends who i trust (mostly pink godzira and some other guys i know)

soooo its up to them to say where it is or how long its there for.

Dousan.

Thats what we're sayin, maybe if the roller goes to an NC buddy of yours, we can maybe coordinate a friendly meet up on the weekend and roll some fenders. I'd be willing to put in a few dollars.



-m

[mrmephistopheles]

Originally posted by NiteKids
What width and offset wheels are you using? How bad is your rubbing?

My car: 16x8 +30
Lisa's car: 17x7 +35 front, +32 rear. (NOT MY CHOICE OF RIMS!)

No rubbing yet (other than fender liner). edit: sidenote from a few months later - I was actually experiencing alot more rubbing than just fender liner. Fender, framerail and upper seam weld were all rubbing! Some people make preparations for what they plan to do instead of just going into things unprepared. :eek3:

[NiteKids]

Oh okay. Just curious. What do you mean in mind for wheels?

[mrmephistopheles]

to start with, at LEAST R33 GT-Rs. I wouldn't mind a set of Regamaster Evos 17x9 (but in black).... I'd like a set of R34 GT-Rs, but maybe i'll settle for the 'Grenade' knockoff. There are a few other kinds of wheels on my list (Enkei NTO3RR, Prodrive GC-01, Nismo GT-4) basically all ~9in wide and 17or 18in. diameter. All GT-R offsets.
Now, the wheels i get will depend solely on what i can find and buy while i'm in Japan.