PDA

View Full Version : Who makes an aftermarket rear lower arm set?


tommy_thrash
08-18-2003, 06:59 PM
I just hit a really tall curb today and it screwed up my left rear lower arm pretty bad. I searched for some threads about aftermarket ones and couldnt find much. Im gona need them in the next week or so, so any info will help.

Bill Roberts
08-18-2003, 07:06 PM
Hey Dude!

Damn you guys have been getting some hot weather! Email me some of that damned good water from the taps around the square will ya?

I found this...looks good.

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10268&highlight=Rear+lower+control+arms


EDIT...err the hobnob at the end was a little uncalled for. at least Aaron stood his ground (as usual)

As much as it sounds like a skipping broken record..amazing things happen with that big read button. I spend 75% more time on search mode than I do posting..and 850 posts in 3 months is a lot of labor...but hell..I am not bragging or complaining. Dude, I got to get up there this fall once the trees turn for some mountain driving. Did you ever get some cars and drivers located for a meet?

I am hip. I love it up there..

Hit the ole search..I got hundreds of hits..

Cudos and laters...

Bill

tommy_thrash
08-18-2003, 07:13 PM
i need these.

Bill Roberts
08-18-2003, 07:16 PM
That is a front lower a frame is it not???

Looks like the lower A frame to me...well $hit, I never took all that crap apart yet...so is it on the left rear tire as your post indicated or left front?

>>???

tommy_thrash
08-18-2003, 07:21 PM
These are the front ones.

PDM has some oem ones but I would like aftermarket ones.

Mikes14240sx
08-18-2003, 07:41 PM
Nismo makes an upgraded rear lower arm for s13.

tommy_thrash
08-18-2003, 07:51 PM
Yeah i know but i dont know where to get them. Do you know?

Bill Roberts
08-18-2003, 09:07 PM
Assuming it is an S-13 (you can navigate the site).

Here.

http://164.46.112.185/NissanParts/SilviaS13&180SX/S13Index.htm

sykikchimp
08-18-2003, 09:40 PM
I'm pretty sure the nismo units are just the stock units painted silver, with harder rubber bushings in them..

If you can get the stock one from PDM with poly bushes pressed in that would be better.

nismofeind
08-18-2003, 10:00 PM
http://www.courtesyparts.com/nms/s13/s13_bushing.html

there are some arms that they won't sell just the bushing so they give you the arm with the pushing already in their from nismo. so i believe that this is just the nismo arm and bushing. If any body has ordered these before please correct me but thats how i understood the site.

sykikchimp
08-18-2003, 10:05 PM
they said the OE bushings can't be bought seperate.. Those are NISMO, not OE. That is just the bushings.

allmotorKA
08-19-2003, 01:04 AM
I think Still Way makes some Rear Lower Control Arms for the S13 and S14...maybe someone here might have connections in Japan to get some.

drift into a curb
08-19-2003, 04:59 AM
sykikchimp,

Wasn't the Nismo LCA shaped a little different than the OEM LCA? I thought I saw a picture of a comparison on freshalloy. Can't seem to find it. I'll look after I get some rest.

Dousan_PG
08-19-2003, 07:00 AM
NISMO LCA is setup for lowered cars, the angle on ball joint is different probably some other differences over stock too

id get me a NAMS one one day..or Ikeya Formula!!

>_< OOOH I WANT ONE SO BADLY!

sykikchimp
08-19-2003, 08:45 AM
(pictures from PowerdBY007 on FA)

http://www.kaidodrft.com/images/installs/JB_suspension/DSCF0051.JPG
I think if he had them both at the same angle in this pic, it would have been easier to tell the difference.. It looks like a lot bigger difference than it is.
http://www.kaidodrft.com/images/installs/JB_suspension/DSCF0050.JPG
On this one it looks like the ball joint is situated at a little differen angle. Even though I'm not sure how just changing the agle of the ball joint would affect anything.

Personally, I don't think theres a difference except for the hard bushings, and the pretty paint job, and probably a little nice ball joint.

Dousan_PG
08-19-2003, 08:50 AM
Originally posted by sykikchimp
On this one it looks like the ball joint is situated at a little differen angle. Even though I'm not sure how just changing the agle of the ball joint would affect anything.


when yoru car is lowered the angles change, i think the change in geometry would have a possible negative effect on handling

same goes up front with tie rod endlinks, that's why compnaies like KAZAMA make ones that are adjustable and can handle the changes from stock geometry

im sure TRBeau (sp) can answer it better, he is knowledgable on such setups.

Steeles
08-19-2003, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by dousan36
when yoru car is lowered the angles change, i think the change in geometry would have a possible negative effect on handling

same goes up front with tie rod endlinks, that's why compnaies like KAZAMA make ones that are adjustable and can handle the changes from stock geometry

im sure TRBeau (sp) can answer it better, he is knowledgable on such setups.

speaking of the tie rod ends... how does it change? I'm assuming thourge the 4 spacer collars on each end but my japanese is non existent so I couldnt read the directions to figure it out :)

Dousan_PG
08-19-2003, 09:53 AM
huh?
i dont understand what you mean.

sykikchimp
08-19-2003, 09:56 AM
I'm pretty sure the Kazamma ends just allow for more extreme angles b/w the tie rod, and upright.

Dousan_PG
08-19-2003, 09:59 AM
oooh i forgot you have Kazama ones now (i hate you, give them to me)

as sykikchimp said AND the collar/spacer things, i was told is to adjust/eliminate bumpsteer!


wooot!

Steeles
08-19-2003, 10:01 AM
same goes up front with tie rod endlinks, that's why compnaies like KAZAMA make ones that are adjustable and can handle the changes from stock geometry

ok. Super tie rod end. adjustable to compensate for lowered cars.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid74/pd47d8c27acf864f5fd6ab506ab863bec/fb634194.jpg

no looking at the picture there are two black spacers just below the spherical bushing. theres also the length adjuster (gold collar) i was asking if the spacers on the bottom would be adjusted to comp for the car being lowered. i.e. removing or moving them from bottom of the bushing to the top etc etc...

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid74/p377743572d5a3c2e2215986c6592087c/fb634195.jpg

Dousan_PG
08-19-2003, 10:03 AM
see my reply above
if you send them to me, i can test it out for you :p

Steeles
08-19-2003, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by dousan36
oooh i forgot you have Kazama ones now (i hate you, give them to me)

as sykikchimp said AND the collar/spacer things, i was told is to adjust/eliminate bumpsteer!


wooot!

haha I'll trade ya the Brix for um :p

sykikchimp
08-19-2003, 10:26 AM
moving the spacers from the bottom to the top would allow you to straghten the tie rod, which would eliminate bumpsteer.

That must be what they are for. Looks from the picture you could use an adjustment.

..DAMN.. this means I have to get these.... :hammer:

Steeles
08-19-2003, 10:50 AM
that pic was taken during the install... i havent looked at it since the alignment... we'll play with them at Hyperfest. Russ wants to test a theory on them anyway so..

projectRDM
08-19-2003, 11:02 AM
I heard my name mentioned. The Kazama tie rod ends have spacers to bring the tie rod further down, straightening out the angle that it has against the spindle. If you look at a severly lowered car, like mine, the tie rod end attaches at a 45 degree angle, and the tie rod itself sits at about a 15 degree angle, putting more stress on the rod end and causing it to wear prematurely.

For rear lower a-arms, NAMS makes a nice set, fully adjustable.

Dousan_PG
08-19-2003, 11:04 AM
ive seen the NAMS in person (rear a-arm)

OMG i jizzed myself. its sooo sexy. i wanted to buy it but it is WAY too much for me at the moment

examined the WHOLE s13 NAMS lineup..wow. one day..one day..

Steeles
08-19-2003, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by R240NA
I heard my name mentioned. The Kazama tie rod ends have spacers to bring the tie rod further down, straightening out the angle that it has against the spindle. If you look at a severly lowered car, like mine, the tie rod end attaches at a 45 degree angle, and the tie rod itself sits at about a 15 degree angle, putting more stress on the rod end and causing it to wear prematurely.

For rear lower a-arms, NAMS makes a nice set, fully adjustable.

haha I KNEW I shoulda called you when we were putting them on lol. we'll have to play with them when we take them off this weekend.see how much mine need to be adjusted.. mines no where near as low as yours but I think an adjustment is in order :)

Maeda
08-19-2003, 01:12 PM
Stop making me want new control arms!

Heh. I'm actually looking to order some tein tie rods and ends....

Must reduce understeerrrr....:bash:

Dousan_PG
08-19-2003, 01:13 PM
Originally posted by Maeda
Stop making me want new control arms!

Heh. I'm actually looking to order some tein tie rods and ends....

Must reduce understeerrrr....:bash:

those wont reduce understeer......
unless you mean understeer as in not enough steering
haha..;)

Maeda
08-19-2003, 01:20 PM
Originally posted by dousan36
those wont reduce understeer......
unless you mean understeer as in not enough steering
haha..;)

Driving up the mountain I feel like piloting an over weight sea lion.
Its got too much nose action and then the rear comes around way too late. I think it's either not enough steering input on my part, or its understeer into the turn and then slightly oversteering on exit....

GRR! Maybe after increasing stock ponies 100% we'll see less of this... although I doubt it.

Steeles
08-19-2003, 01:47 PM
more power will only make the problem worse

kapower
08-19-2003, 03:28 PM
will some one please give me the adress for nams product line. I have never heard of them before. Here is an interesting web site that I came across. (complete shperical bearing kits for $500) www.K-mac.com Let me know if the address does'nt work.

projectRDM
08-20-2003, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by kapower
will some one please give me the adress for nams product line. I have never heard of them before. Here is an interesting web site that I came across. (complete shperical bearing kits for $500) www.K-mac.com Let me know if the address does'nt work.

Chit.

www.nagisa-auto.com

Brian
08-20-2003, 08:43 PM
still in the wrapper...sorry. :(
Nagisa Auto
http://24.59.109.135/pichost/pic//NAMS%20lower%20A%20arm.jpg

Dousan_PG
08-20-2003, 08:44 PM
rolfmao
nice pic hahaha
mm so sexy. i want.