Sequential Transmissions?

[onlydrinkkoolaid]

I have tons of question just a few to start I do expect some flaming as usual but I most concerned with just feedback postive or negative.

What would be the best options for tracking?

What kind of mods needed to get installed? Im assuming an adapter plate would be for starters?

Also what about going to a paddle shift setup? Just curious

What about driveshaft yokes? I ask because the research I have done so far the transmissions seem to have a tiny spline?

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[Om1kron]

1. sequential transmission price range 6-10k (this is just the transmission) if you can afford to put that on a car that cost as much as the transmission. Then proceed to ball on.

2. Clutch setup, throw out bearing, drive shaft, supporting mods. $$$ unknown depends on actual setup purchased.

3. paddle shift setup with a sequential transmission would all be custom, someone made their own kit with internet and electronic know how on a regular transmission. depends on your knowledge of electronics, knowledge of the transmission you're working with, etc. Being that you're 22 and you're "RESEARCHING" this. You won't have money to step into this area of sequential transmissions so just worry about getting to step one.

4. I think HKS and/or Greddy still offer a quaife type sequential transmission for these cars, if not it may be for a z32 in which you would need a z32 transmission adapter plate/kit.

5. look back at number one and ask yourself before ANYONE ELSE ON ZILVIA REPLIES OR FLAMES YOU. Do you have the money to even play in this department?

6. If anyone replies to this thread recommending an IKEYA FORMULA SHIFTER and mentions this as a SEQUENTIAL TRANSMISSION UPGRADE, you're free to personally murder their families for producing retards.

that's all I have to say.

[.SoCal-S13.]

best mod would be making it turn into an EVO

[mrphams]

.... nevermind, was going to mention the Ikeya but seems Om1kron (http://zilvia.net/f/members/om1kron.html) doesn't agree :)

{EDIT}
actually whatever, details are below just in case your interested in it!

http://www.ikeya-f.co.jp/en/product_notice/sequen_shifter.html

Uses your standard transmission and clutch, so no real upgrades in strength there. But it changes the H-pattern shifting to just up and down, there is also reverse lockout and you need to use the dedicated reverse lever. The argument for using this product that it avoids any mis-shifting...

[onlydrinkkoolaid]

Money is not really my concern. I'm most concerned with the benefits on the track this will not be a daily driven car. I think I will forget the paddle shifting unless its an option that can be purchased with the transmisson

[97240TB]

I don't see why this is something that's on your list of must haves.

You'll end up spending a insane amount of money and they are impossibly hard to find state side. HKS, GREDDY, Holinger, and OS Giken make Sequential Tranny's though so if you are going to be stubborn about it I'd contact any of them and see what they can do for you. If anything you can atleast get any questions you may have answered by them.

The Ikeya unit is NOT a sequential gearbox but a gear selector that enables you to shift up and down LIKE a sequential gearbox, and is probably your best bet for overal price and availability.

[azndoc]

OS Giken makes the gears, not the actual transmission last I checked.

The cost of sequential transmission for Greddy or HKS is usually between $10-15k. Hollingers usually costs around $20k.

If you have the money to do so then good for you, but I'd rather spend the money on tires and be a great driver than a shitty driver with a cool transmission.

Also, you have to rebuild them every 3000 miles and the costs is between $3-5k depending.

So yeah daily driving would be retarded in costs depending on how many miles you plan to put on it.

I personally would love one too just like everyone on this forum, but unless you absolutely need it for performance factor then I would not recommend.

But, it is your money and so do as you will.

Good luck.

[fckillerbee]

damn i did not think those were that fucking much...


mike essa....you fucking baller! lol....haha....that's like his first mod...drop a seq tranny in. lol

[nathanong87]

Money is not really my concern. I'm most concerned with the benefits on the track this will not be a daily driven car. I think I will forget the paddle shifting unless its an option that can be purchased with the transmisson

money of no concern. must be nice. be sure to post some pictures of your transmission after you purchase it.

[fckillerbee]

money of no concern. must be nice. be sure to post some pictures of your transmission after you purchase it.

he did say he was the owner of a telecom business in mexico.

[codyace]

Money is not really my concern. I'm most concerned with the benefits on the track this will not be a daily driven car. I think I will forget the paddle shifting unless its an option that can be purchased with the transmisson

Sell everything, and buy a decent car. Z06's are cheap.

[kognition]

They are not worth the money unless you seriously time attack. And even still, teams we sponsor (GST Motorsports, AQ Motorsports) have repeatedly smashed GTR's (Cobb Tuning) this year by 2 to 4 seconds. And they only have manual trans in their cars. And they are 5 to 10 years older than the GTR platform.

[onlydrinkkoolaid]

lol at the telecom joke... the car would only be track car as Im not going to be running the INDY500 I think I would get plenty track time out of the tranny even if they required a rebuild that often.

Im not interested in paying anyone to drive my car that completely defeat the purpose but I would be open if some BA driver said I would like the have a run it

When I personally look over any car and when I think Racecar I dont see how you can truly say that the foundation is strong without serious changes in the transmission. dont really care for a DYNO queen I would rather have a 300hp car with the meanest Suspension setup and weight reduction and a ofcourse a sequential trans...

[kognition]

Just go with some Giken dog gears and call it a day. More reliable. I have seen sequential transmissions completely pulled out at the track before because they would seize up. 3 grand and you have good strong gears.

lol at the telecom joke... the car would only be track car as Im not going to be running the INDY500 I think I would get plenty track time out of the tranny even if they required a rebuild that often.

Im not interested in paying anyone to drive my car that completely defeat the purpose but I would be open if some BA driver said I would like the have a run it

When I personally look over any car and when I think Racecar I dont see how you can truly say that the foundation is strong without serious changes in the transmission. dont really care for a DYNO queen I would rather have a 300hp car with the meanest Suspension setup and weight reduction and a ofcourse a sequential trans...

[jspecusa]

z32 tranny and spend the rest of the money on something useful.

[Corbic]

Money is not really my concern. I'm most concerned with the benefits on the track this will not be a daily driven car. I think I will forget the paddle shifting unless its an option that can be purchased with the transmisson

Then buy a F430

[97240TB]

Waste of money, I guess if you have that kinda money you don't care how you spend it... Kinda like a guy that lives in the bay area... had a auto G-35 with BC coils and Project Mu brakes... Daily'd the car... I still can't grasp his reasoning behind purchasing those brakes for that car... Oh and the car was completely stock.

[itwillboost]

I would love to see some pics of the install if you did this but the money just isn't worth it. Not unless everything else is done to that existent. I know I wish I had money to just spend but even if I did my plans would just be to get the gears out of a sunny or something good like that.

[Nategreat923]

You could look into a ratchet shifter. Its similar.

[thefro526]

Ikeya Formula Shifter on a Z32 Transmission: Engineered to slide: Ikeya Formula Z32 (http://engineeredtoslide.blogspot.com/2010/08/ikeya-formula-z32.html)

That's probably the most realistic option for most people on here. True, it's not a sequential transmission like said above, but it should be close enough for most people considering they'll never drive a car with a true sequential trans. Apparently the Ikeya Shifter can be found second hand on the cheap if you keep your eye out, I think I saw a used one go for like $1200 a while back and Z32 transmissions aren't that expensive, you can get a Rebuilt TT transmission for well less than $1k and they're good to in excess of 500hp all day and you don't have to rebuild it like once or twice a season like you would a true sequential gearbox.

Or, you could just learn how to shift and save yourself a few thousand, I doubt you'll be doing anything so competitive that you'll actually have a huge advantage by going sequential.

[smelly240]

the giken gearsets arent exactly strong.

Theyre the cheapest though.

just get a T5wc from gforce... u can use a 280z tailshaft and retain the vss

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The ikeya shifter + osg or ppg gearset wouldnt be too bad - still needs servicing though.

[Om1kron]

damn i did not think those were that fucking much...
mike essa....you fucking baller! lol....haha....that's like his first mod...drop a seq tranny in. lol

Essa bought a used 4 gear nascar transmission for a couple G's. It wasn't no fucking highly polished off the assembly line dog box/sstransmission.

Anyway the questions have been answered, lets go ahead and let this thread die so we don't have tons of fanboism posts made in here with dreams of spending 10-16k on a transmission of a car that will have a build thread and 2 years down the line have an update that says "DUE TO UNFORSEEN CIRCUMSTANCE AND THE ECONOMY I HAVE DECIDED TO PART OUT MY PASSION" without it even seeing a track like every other car someone says they only want to put the best shit on.

Or be like Full race putting all of that money into their RB26S14 only to get like 3rd place at a tuner shootout.

[codyace]

just get a T5wc from gforce... u can use a 280z tailshaft and retain the vss


Even a TKO box would be nice too. Interesting to note the 280z tailshaft, that is good knowledge to have.

I know they make the hydro conversions for them, but do they really work 'decent'? And while on that same topic, how would you address the flywheel/clutch situation? I can think of a few different ways, but am curious as to what others use here. Again, nice info. Figure this way I could pick the ratios I want, and have a bulletproof setup, rather than the z32 and keeping 'almost' oe spread.


lol at the telecom joke... the car would only be track car as Im not going to be running the INDY500 I think I would get plenty track time out of the tranny even if they required a rebuild that often.

Im not interested in paying anyone to drive my car that completely defeat the purpose but I would be open if some BA driver said I would like the have a run it

When I personally look over any car and when I think Racecar I dont see how you can truly say that the foundation is strong without serious changes in the transmission. dont really care for a DYNO queen I would rather have a 300hp car with the meanest Suspension setup and weight reduction and a ofcourse a sequential trans...

I hate to sound so ignorant, but the bottom line is with you asking such basic questions I can only assume that you'll never EVER get this accomplished, nor will it ever come to life. Quit trying to be some 'cool guy' and why not track your car and gain experience first, rather than building some super duper looper 240sx. YOu'll soon realize that you need to worry about 100 other things than the transmission, and at that rate, you may as well go out and get a better platform.

I love my car, but if I had to do it all over, I'd have a Z06, A Fox, or maybe even an FD. All are immensely better platforms, with a greater aftermarket, and at a much lesser cost.

Cliffs: YOu smell of bullshit. Why not learn about setting up the car first, than some stupid transmission that sounds cool when you watch Option videos late at night.


Or be like Full race putting all of that money into their RB26S14 only to get like 3rd place at a tuner shootout.

Reinventing the wheel doesn't = fast, that's for sure

[azndoc]

Truth is, if you have the money and the intentions of doing the swap then just do it.

Have a reputable shop do it for you and I'm sure any authorized HKS shop can get it for you with the right amount of down payment if not full payment.

Then just go driving.

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p.s. post videos after install