Coilover Questions

[wetawded87]

Today i installed a set of powerd by max coilovers on my S14 :fawkd: they are very stiff and bounce ALOT!

My questions are...

How many miles will it take for them to settle?

Will the car get lower once they do settle?

Should i adjust them or check the adjustments after a certain amount of miles

[ILoveMyRHS13]

1. About a week or two of just having weight on them will make them settle.
2. Yes they'll lower a little bit once they're settled.
3. You only need to adjust stuff to your preferences.

[xtopgun32x]

i need coilovers on my s14...prolly where ill go next. my lowering springs and gr2 struts(came with the car) have saggy vag's. but yea they will noticeably settle and most likely feel less bouncy too. you may not want to make any adjustments until then...just so you dont have to make more afterwards.

[locoluna825]

what spring rates did you buy them with.

[wetawded87]

10 kg Front 8 kg Rear they are VERY stiff.

[Okinawandrifter87]

About a couple good days of driving or a week to be sure for a fact. Just adjust the settings to what you need it for not anything else.

[Pandapants]

Have you played with the damping knobs yet?

[wetawded87]

No not yet im gonna drive it till monday and then take the wheels off check everything out and then get it aligned.. after that ill adjust it i read that they should be set to full soft. the car is my daily and right now its like being in a go kart. i gotta do something

[onehundredoctane]

just make sure you don't adjust the pre-load and you'll be fine.

[wetawded87]

I noticed a noise coming from the front left wheel when i turn in either direction... After checking it out i can see the actual spring shifting about 1/4 back and fourth. Its only when i turn the wheel.how can this be fixed and is it safe to drive??

[ILoveMyRHS13]

Yeah, the spring is just binding. Oil up the pillow-ball. Also, make sure your collars are tight. If they aren't, when the spring binds, it'll adjust the height of the coilover. Best way of tightening collars is a hammer and a flathead screwdriver.

[klits562]

When we put my friends megans on his s14 we got like 4 people to sit on the front of the car(very large people) and the car held for a few minutes then we felt it sink just barely. After that it took about a week or two for it to settle, and even then it was probably only 1/4 of an inch. Just set them to a ride height that looks decent for now and can be safe if it drops 1/4-1/2 of an inch without you knowing it. Also dont set your coilovers on full low or full high unless directed to by the instructions. I know at least some manufacturers warn that using the coilovers on any of the maxed out settings, weither it be maxxed out ride height(low or high) or setting the dampening to max soft or stiff can lower the life of the coilovers.

[ILoveMyRHS13]

When we put my friends megans on his s14 we got like 4 people to sit on the front of the car(very large people) and the car held for a few minutes then we felt it sink just barely. After that it took about a week or two for it to settle, and even then it was probably only 1/4 of an inch. Just set them to a ride height that looks decent for now and can be safe if it drops 1/4-1/2 of an inch without you knowing it. Also dont set your coilovers on full low or full high unless directed to by the instructions. I know at least some manufacturers warn that using the coilovers on any of the maxed out settings, weither it be maxxed out ride height(low or high) or setting the dampening to max soft or stiff can lower the life of the coilovers.
PBM encourages their customers to run their coils at full low.

[klits562]

Hence why i said some manufacturers and asked him to check the instruction.

[wetawded87]

thanks everybody

[Otto347]

Buy some of these, no more binding spring.

QA1 Precision Products 7888-109 - QA1 Coil-Over Shock Thrust Bearing Kits - Overview - SummitRacing.com (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HAL-7888-109/)

http://otto-fab.com/pics/SPRING_bearings.jpg

[wetawded87]

What causes the spring to bind? will it stop on its own? Are the thrust bering kits one size fits all and if i install that there goes the factory preload im guessing...

[wh0aitznic0]

Lol I have my Max's on stiffness level 8. Only thing I hear is tire rubbing and fender destroying.

[ILoveMyRHS13]

Buy some of these, no more binding spring.

QA1 Precision Products 7888-109 - QA1 Coil-Over Shock Thrust Bearing Kits - Overview - SummitRacing.com (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HAL-7888-109/)

http://otto-fab.com/pics/SPRING_bearings.jpg
I've been meaning to get these...

Lol I have my Max's on stiffness level 8. Only thing I hear is tire rubbing and fender destroying.
Hahah freals? Mine are on full soft hahaha.

[Kouki_20TILL3]

Good information to know. I'm in the same boat as the OP. Thanks.

[wh0aitznic0]

Hahah freals? Mine are on full soft hahaha.

Yup, 8/10 clicks hard. I'm scared that if I have too much travel, my tires will rub wheel well on every little bump. But then again, the only S13 I could even THINK of that's maybe lower than me with 17's is Yuta's pink car.

[OBEEWON]

This makes me scared to put PBM's on my SC.

[wetawded87]

Dont be skuurd...(IN MY OPINION) there top of the line i probably did something wrong when i installed them. im gonna check it out tomorow and see whats going on... PBM kick ass and i can already feel the springs setteling and the car already droped 1/2 in in the front 1/4 in rear if it wasnt for the spring binding id be smooth sailing. BTW zilvia is better nicoclub!

[GabeS14]

Top of the line? Does PBM offer more than one type of 240 coil for this one to be top
Of the line?
They aren't top of the line dude. They are just pretty decent like stance, and the new megans(greddy), nothing comparable to some of the hi end coils.



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[VQMaxFan]

swift also makes thrust bearings

Swift Spring thrust washers - SPL PARTS (http://splparts.com/store/product-info.php?pid128.html)

[1on1]

I have full stiff on my pbm. my rear dropped about 1/2 inch. I need to run it on full stiff because the height i am at, i rub on slight bumps.

[wetawded87]

Ok you have a piont i may have exaderated... but just because they only make one type dosent mean the quality isnt as good. I would say they are the top of the line in their price range. $1,000 they offer replacement parts for $100 and it says on the site no one has ever replaced a damper because of high mileage or track abuse. not only that but you can go as low as your tiny little heart desires.

[kalypso123]

the new megans(greddy),


...wait what?

[XxCAPTAINxX]

i just put my PBMs on like 2 weeks ago and there fully settled. and i also have the binding the spring. need to get those bearings. i noticed mine are squeaking in the rear. anything i can do to fix it?

[GabeS14]

...wait what?

Some new top of the line coilovers that Megan purchased or bought out from greddy to sell under the Megan brand, I dont know the details my frend just showed them to me the other day, retail for about $1600
figured some of you guys would know lol..
Ill post more info when I talk to him again.

[wetawded87]

Still binding like a Mofo but Ive gotten so used to it now I don't even notice...chick got in my car the other day and was like "holy shit what's that noise" I was like huh? Oh the front of the car is falling apart lol then I jumped on the freeway:) probably gonna get Qa1s soon though spring binding ain't ballerific

[Irresistible]

The binding shouldn't be super loud. At least it isn't for me. Granted I don't have PBM coils. Stance may be a little different.

[bentmode360]

can someone explain spring binding?

[fckillerbee]

This makes me scared to put PBM's on my SC.

pbm's are fine when you adjust the dampening and run a 8-6k spring.

Top of the line? Does PBM offer more than one type of 240 coil for this one to be top
Of the line?
They aren't top of the line dude. They are just pretty decent like stance, and the new megans(greddy), nothing comparable to some of the hi end coils.



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They make a pro series now with swift springs. I'm guessing it's probably comparable to the higher end stance coil? PBM's are just waaaaay fucking prettier.

[Bushido]

Ugh.. Sick of dailying my pbm's.

Too stiff! Gotta try some 6kg's...

[ManoNegra]

can someone explain spring binding?

A term that is being mis-used in this thread
it refers to a spring compressing to the point of the spring stacking on
top of each other
spring suddenly becomes a solid item and can no long do it's job
this is affected by the spring length and rate

what people are talking about here is twist
a spring has the tendency to want to rotate when it compresses
the load applied plus the compression cause friction in the spring mounts
the trust/torrington/roller bearings allow the spring to twist
with little to no friction
the result is a smoother driving feedback when turning

and you need to order to the same size as your springs ID