KA Turbo NOT LEGAL in 50 states

[kenshinS14sks]

Just got off the phone with Greddy . . . long story short. The Greddy turbo kit for the KA24de was NEVER Carb legal!!! EVER!!!!! askl;dfjasl;dkfjsl;dakf

:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:

[kenshinS14sks]

only for the s2k. . . was i the only one that was in the dark about this??? From what I knew everyone and their moms was talking about how KA-T was carb legal this and that

[waxball88]

Just because you live in Cali...doesnt mean the other 50 states have the same laws. Lol

[cc4usmc]

Old news

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[greenzenki86]

yeah this is pretty old dude

[Om1kron]

after going through a very bad ordeal with a ref ticket and an sr20 and court orders, any work i do on a car will be reffed . . . so no it won't pass the ref

I'm glad the california legal system is so in the shitter these days.

My ref ticket was a letter saying, here's you fine, if you want to contest this in court you need to pass the state ref tests and wait until december to find out if we even have room for you in the court.

otherwise pay this fee and be done with it.

[yellowxhoodie]

wait...whats carb legal?

:rofl:

[kenshinS14sks]

I'm glad the california legal system is so in the shitter these days.

My ref ticket was a letter saying, here's you fine, if you want to contest this in court you need to pass the state ref tests and wait until december to find out if we even have room for you in the court.

otherwise pay this fee and be done with it.

when'd you get your tic? that was the situation with all of my friends and shop guys but for whatever reason my ref ticket was followed by a "MANDATORY COURT APPEARANCE" letter which proceeded to the judge saying "you can't drive an illegal car on the road" and gave me the option to forfeit the car, lose my license or go get it reffed. . .

i guess i could've sold the car out of state and bought it back. . . but i got scurred and stock ka-ed the car. . . so seriously. . . there's like no legal turbo options for the ka????

[greenzenki86]

when'd you get your tic? that was the situation with all of my friends and shop guys but for whatever reason my ref ticket was followed by a "MANDATORY COURT APPEARANCE" letter which proceeded to the judge saying "you can't drive an illegal car on the road" and gave me the option to forfeit the car, lose my license or go get it reffed. . .

i guess i could've sold the car out of state and bought it back. . . but i got scurred and stock ka-ed the car. . . so seriously. . . there's like no legal turbo options for the ka????

no legal kit for the KA, im sure it can be done if greddy or someone did all the R&D, plus $$$ to make it "environmental friendly"....so basically a short answer is no....wont see it happening anytimes soon, plus that kit is like at least like 7 years old now, if they havent done it by now........then.......you know where im goin with that lol....

[5pecialist]

Move to KY. Anything goes out here.

[Om1kron]

when'd you get your tic? that was the situation with all of my friends and shop guys but for whatever reason my ref ticket was followed by a "MANDATORY COURT APPEARANCE" letter which proceeded to the judge saying "you can't drive an illegal car on the road" and gave me the option to forfeit the car, lose my license or go get it reffed. . .

i guess i could've sold the car out of state and bought it back. . . but i got scurred and stock ka-ed the car. . . so seriously. . . there's like no legal turbo options for the ka????

you live in anaheim/orange so they're gay. I live in overpopulated LA. Mine said mandatory court appearance too and then they sent me that bs letter like "ah no court appearance necessary sign up online handle the ticket and be done with it."

[I LUV MY S13]

Doesnt it make sense that turbocharging a non-turbo car would be illegal...?

[Laernu]

man i feel bad for you guys in cali, here we just get a rejected sticker and thats it only thing that can really happen is you get a 130 dollar ticket if the cop wants to be a real dick about it...

[drift freaq]

no legal kit for the KA, im sure it can be done if greddy or someone did all the R&D, plus $$$ to make it "environmental friendly"....so basically a short answer is no....wont see it happening anytimes soon, plus that kit is like at least like 7 years old now, if they havent done it by now........then.......you know where im goin with that lol....

It was not the fact that the kit was not green or environmentally friendly. In fact it would have smogged. The problem was the California Air Resources Board aka C.A.R.B wanted a 10k a year fee from Greddy to get the official sticker on the kit. Greddy figured they could not sell enough of the kits to warrant that kind of cash outlay so they did not bother.

Now on the S2K it was a no brainer . New car, people that buy it have cash to spend might want to turbo it and get more power.

[s14fbs]

The reason I will never move up north /or west shits stupid as fuck emissions bullshit ect

Down soulth nobody gives a fuck about that stupid shit
so glad I have a ka-t barly any exaust no cats not egr ride out all day

[oni.dori]

From what I understood, it was only the kit for the S14 KA that every recieved a CARB EO, not any dual-cam KA. So, to TECHNICALLY get your S13 a legal turbo, you would have to equip it with an S14 KA, get it certified by a REF, THEN you could put the Greddy turbo on it legally.

[!Zar!]

Greddy NEVER made a carb legal kit for any 240. the kit was carb pending. But never carb approved.

This information is old as dirt. Probably known before s15's even existed.

[singlecamslam]

nothing in california is legal for a car. Not even cars are legal.

[97nismo]

move to south carolina, you can register anything with wheels

[Touge Noob S13]

I rather deal with California laws than move to the south.

[Backintoans13]

New Mexico ftmfw!! Woot! lol We dont care bout any of that shit either. I love visiting Cali and would love to move there if money allowed me too but since it dont.....i dont ever have to worry bout all that smog bull shit!

[sleeper108]

New Mexico ftmfw!! Woot! lol We dont care bout any of that shit either. I love visiting Cali and would love to move there if money allowed me too but since it dont.....i dont ever have to worry bout all that smog bull shit!

+1!!

In Rio Rancho, NM they dont even have to worry about emissions lol

[510-SR20DET]

Yeah but perfect temp, no snow, sun shine and all the fine woman are in cali. Ill stay in cali.

[510n]

Has any one actually check the ARB website? No even 5 min and I found this:http://arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/devices/eo/D-271.pdf.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Greddy NEVER made a carb legal kit for any 240. the kit was carb pending. But never carb approved.

This information is old as dirt. Probably known before s15's even existed.

THIS!!! It was carb pending but they never followed thru with it and they never sold enough to follow thru with it.

[i♥boobies!]

i have a solution for this!!!
just pay the extra money to get it smogged under the table
that easy

and if the cops pull you over and check under your hood your fucked!!
thats its end of story
we cant do anything about it
wanna change the emissions laws!?
then good luck becoming governor!

[i♥boobies!]

oh and ANY modification to a car is illegal!

i asked a cop once lol

[Sleepy_Steve]

oh and ANY modification to a car is illegal!

i asked a cop once lol

Maybe, but a cops job is to enforce the law, not to know the law. That task falls to people in legal departments and court rooms.

I'd love to see a compiled list of all the states that are 'enthusiast friendly' (dont do emissions / let you tag anything with wheels) but I'm too lazy to make it or look real hard to find it. For now at least I'll settle for being happy that MD got rid of the rollers at emissions stations so its only idle tests for OBD1 cars from here on out.

[i♥boobies!]

[quote=Sleepy_Steve;3622126]Maybe, but a cops job is to enforce the law, not to know the law. That task falls to people in legal departments and court rooms.

yeah i know
i just wanted to put that out there lol

[greenzenki86]

It was not the fact that the kit was not green or environmentally friendly. In fact it would have smogged. The problem was the California Air Resources Board aka C.A.R.B wanted a 10k a year fee from Greddy to get the official sticker on the kit. Greddy figured they could not sell enough of the kits to warrant that kind of cash outlay so they did not bother.

Now on the S2K it was a no brainer . New car, people that buy it have cash to spend might want to turbo it and get more power.

wow thanks for the facts, I didnt know that. thats pretty crazy info, that kit (msrp 3600) was pricey too especially for not even having an intercooler as part of the kit (it had to be purchased seperate and was like 8 or $900)...yeah s2ks are a different market, I one had a 00 AP1 and mast parts are expensive for those platforms.

[nippon240]

man i feel bad for you guys in cali, here we just get a rejected sticker and thats it only thing that can really happen is you get a 130 dollar ticket if the cop wants to be a real dick about it...

Shittttt, in the midwest....you could have a nuclear reactor powering your car...and that Laws could careless

[BustedS13]

Just because you live in Cali...doesnt mean the other 50 states have the same laws. Lol

ding ding ding. maybe this belongs in regionals. in the rest of the country, cops could care less about what's under your hood. that's for mechanics.

[TeamFRAT]

Wait.....people actually PURCHASED the greddy kits?



That shit cost money, zilvian's dont spend money on that.




wtf...

[CleanAndLegit]

mods are legal if you take the right steps...

[5pecialist]

California, where it's legal to be an illegal alien, and buy pot, but OMG DONT MOD UR CARZ!!!!1!1

[Laernu]

California, where it's legal to be an illegal alien, and buy pot, but OMG DONT MOD UR CARZ!!!!1!1

They wanna make sure that cops can keep up :D lol

[nemo6686]

Move to florida sun year around and they don't care what you do. Plus all the fine girls stay in florida

[!Zar!]

Florida sucks.

[Ktown_drifter]

I <3 Canada.. Engine swap = car classed as hotrod for etest. so take normal limits and times them by 4.. = car will pass etest without a cat installed.. lol.. oh stroking a stock engine = changing displacement = engine is hotrod and you x the emission limits by 4.. yay

[iamtheyi]

California is where it's at. Lol, I figured this was common knowledge by now. It was a sad day for KA owners :P

[Jonnie Fraz]

Simple...Put together a KA-t and have a sticker made with the Kenne Bell E.O number. Only works if you have a 91-92.
I have contacted Kenne Bell Inc. to see if he still builds the kit. For similar reasons as Greedy he does not.

[joeapple8]

nothing in california is legal for a car. Not even cars are legal.

my new sig!

[s14_sr20_silvia]

FALSE:
Move to florida sun year around and they don't care what you do. Plus all the fine girls stay in florida

TRUE:
Florida sucks.

NC isn't too bad.. SR, full 3" exh., gutted cat, etc. Had trouble once getting it inspected, so I drove to the next inspection station and had them inspect it. They were more than happy to take my $15 and send me on my way.

[rabbit05]

+1 For New Mexico. In ABQ and my car passes.

[zooopreme]

I was completely unaware of this. I'm sorta bummed now because I was actually doing my research on the subject matter but now my KA isn't going to gain some balls :(

[omgRWDgoodness!]

Move to florida sun year around and they don't care what you do. Plus all the fine girls stay in florida

All true statements, though too bad a lot of the girls are shallow and/or need more attention than a puppy. :-/


Florida sucks.

Please, Florida pwns California hard. You wish your laws were like ours. In fact, the whole East coast is generally better than you.

[!Zar!]

Palm Beach, FL

Enough said.

[omgRWDgoodness!]

That's right, not afraid to reveal where I live.

[fightinchunk]

All true statements, though too bad a lot of the girls are shallow and/or need more attention than a puppy. :-/




Please, Florida pwns California hard. You wish your laws were like ours. In fact, the whole East coast is generally better than you.

i think this can be narrowed down to the east coast SOUTH of the mason dixon line. I hate jersey and am counting down the days where I can be back in heaven aka the south.

[upsdude]

California, where it's legal to be an illegal alien, and buy pot, but OMG DONT MOD UR CARZ!!!!1!1

hahaha so true-california's all fucked up

[BustedS13]

so the cop just pops your hood on the side of the road and pokes around for parts that look out of place, then pokes around for CARB stickers? shouldn't they be like, stopping crime or something? i can't even imagine how long it takes to get a ticket in california.

[S14DB]

Well, this thread has gone way off topic...

:lockd: