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Gnnr
08-11-2010, 11:07 PM
Cars hacked through wireless tire sensors (http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2010/08/cars-hacked-through-wireless-tyre-sensors.ars)
By Peter Bright

The tire pressure monitors built into modern cars have been shown to be insecure by researchers from Rutgers University and the University of South Carolina. The wireless sensors, compulsory in new automobiles in the US since 2008, can be used to track vehicles or feed bad data to the electronic control units (ECU), causing them to malfunction.

Earlier in the year, researchers from the University of Washington and University of California San Diego showed that the ECUs could be hacked (http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2010/05/car-hacks-could-turn-commutes-into-a-scene-from-speed.ars), giving attackers the ability to be both annoying, by enabling wipers or honking the horn, and dangerous, by disabling the brakes or jamming the accelerator.

The new research shows that other systems in the vehicle are similarly insecure. The tire pressure monitors are notable because they're wireless, allowing attacks to be made from adjacent vehicles. The researchers used equipment costing $1,500, including radio sensors and special software, to eavesdrop on, and interfere with, two different tire pressure monitoring systems.

The pressure sensors contain unique IDs, so merely eavesdropping enabled the researchers to identify and track vehicles remotely. Beyond this, they could alter and forge the readings to cause warning lights on the dashboard to turn on, or even crash the ECU completely.

Unlike the work earlier this year, these attacks are more of a nuisance than any real danger; the tire sensors only send a message every 60-90 seconds, giving attackers little opportunity to compromise systems or cause any real damage. Nonetheless, both pieces of research demonstrate that these in-car computers have been designed with ineffective security measures.

The Rutgers and South Carolina research will be presented at the USENIX Security conference later this week.

Pretty crazy stuff. I was unaware that they used wireless sensors in these newer vehicles.

Sam_Well.13
08-11-2010, 11:16 PM
whoa. thats pretty fawkin crazy.

fckillerbee
08-11-2010, 11:34 PM
since 2007 it's been the law..at least I believe it's a law. all cars have to have a tire pressure monitoring system...it's just nuts that someone thought about hacking into it. Imagine...remote control...we can drift our cars from the sidelines..lol

sw20>>s14
08-11-2010, 11:45 PM
I was unaware that they used wireless sensors in these newer vehicles.

how else do you think TPMS systems measure pressure?

pretty crazy though...same reason why RFID is still not mainstream...

MitchellBade
08-11-2010, 11:52 PM
Wow that's crazy. I'm in no hurry to buy a newer car now haha

ZenkiKid
08-12-2010, 12:11 AM
yeah the new cars have em mounted in between the tire and the rim...but theyre buggy as shit. I was at a tire shop where this f150s sensor kept saying that the tire was flat when it wasnt.

apex
08-12-2010, 02:59 AM
not all are big chevy andmost other makes have the valve stem tpms
and ford has a flat tpms that mounts to the middle of the rim via huge hose clamps

Slammed Assassin
08-12-2010, 03:07 AM
woah thats crazy..

trsilvias13
08-12-2010, 11:58 AM
sounds like someone one day will figure out how to unlock your car via laptop and then turn it on and drive it away - all this without the alarm going off.

iamtheyi
08-12-2010, 12:04 PM
lol. Good thing we drive older cars :D Who's laughing now haha.

Tokona-x
08-12-2010, 01:33 PM
So connivance turned into vulnerability huh that classic lol

stinky_180
08-12-2010, 02:25 PM
That is very interesting...

roboticnissan
08-12-2010, 03:44 PM
Ok this has got to be BS. That article says ppl can hack into the ECU and make the brakes apply themselves? Some one explain how that's possible. Even if the car has ABS, that's not even plausible.


I'm calling shinannigans.

sw20>>s14
08-12-2010, 04:00 PM
"brake assist" found in many cars now a days or newer, more electronic dependent abs units?

miravete
08-12-2010, 07:37 PM
Ok this has got to be BS. That article says ppl can hack into the ECU and make the brakes apply themselves? Some one explain how that's possible. Even if the car has ABS, that's not even plausible.


I'm calling shinannigans.

c'mon man, we live in an era where everything is becoming electronic.

someone found a way to tap into the ecu and send a signal to apply the brakes, honk the horn, etc.
:wiggle:

miravete
08-12-2010, 07:38 PM
its like hacking into a computer....

computer to computer style (bluetooth)

raz0rbladez909
08-12-2010, 08:34 PM
Ok this has got to be BS. That article says ppl can hack into the ECU and make the brakes apply themselves? Some one explain how that's possible. Even if the car has ABS, that's not even plausible.


I'm calling shinannigans.

well they can certainly control the throttles with all this drive by wire bullshit, look at the prius, if they hacked that thing might have a meltdown lol:Owned:

ayuaddict
08-12-2010, 09:09 PM
once every 60-90 seconds dudes. so you could honk the horn for a fraction of a second every minute.

JDMRIDDAZ
08-12-2010, 09:16 PM
:hide:lol i found my new callin in life

cdlong
08-13-2010, 01:19 AM
once every 60-90 seconds dudes. so you could honk the horn for a fraction of a second every minute.

The sensors only send a signal that often, but I bet the computer is looking for signal all the time so if you could hack in, you'd have a consistent connection. If the car has ABS, you could disable it by opening the release valves but I'm not sure how effective that would be. The valves don't release all the pressure, and given an error, the system defaults to no ABS. You'd have to hack in without causing an error. If the car has a stability system or one of those auto brake systems ten you might be able to apply the brakes.