vigilante justice

[bb4_96]

Way late I know but just saw Kick Ass and it was great imo. What are your thoughts on vigilante justice? Wrong or not I've been known to take a problem or two in my own hands. I know some frown on it and others are all for it.

edit:
Originally I failed to properly convey my thought. I don't propose we all dress up and start fighting crime like in the movie kick ass. The movie merely stirred my thoughts towards vigilante justice.

I just like the idea of vigilanteism. Ordinary people stepping up to the plate when the opportunity presents itself.

[ayuaddict]

what is this thread about?

[Drift N Dragg]

I think what he means is .. Would you dress up like a weirdo and go beat bad people up.....

[bb4_96]

vigilante justice in general. costumes optional. A few cities around here have reduced their police forces so much that its like a free for all. Maybe citizens ought to step up their game and lend a hand. I'm all for it anyway.

[ravinaziankid]

ok see you on an obituary page lol.. vigilante justice is great until some douche bag pulls a gun when all you got is a bat or stick

[bb4_96]

^^likewise

[bb4_96]

Think of it as a deterrant. Like how conceal and carry states have lower crime rates.

[theboy]

lol, never a good idea to bring a stick to a gun fight

[soreballz]

I grew up reading The Punisher. As such, I'm all for it.

[Dirty Habit]

http://www.tvworthwatching.com/werts/taxi-driver.jpg

[ericcastro]

Vigilanty justice has no rules and is completely the persons opinion of whats right.

You know how many sick and twisted people are out there?

You know how many bigits, racist, serial killers, and other people of mind sets that arent the same as yours??

My idea of who should be killed in our society is different then your i am sure.

[BOROSUN]

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[driftsilvias13]

That video.... wow..

[ronmcdon]

That was a TERRIBLE game.
I remember throwing it in the trash twenty-something years ago.

[ayuaddict]

Justice is an opinion.

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

this thread is why they put disclaimers at the beginning movies.

[ESmorz]

this thread is why they put disclaimers at the beginning movies.

And condoms.

[fliprayzin240sx]

So vigilante justice as in kill criminals or capture them and turn them in?

[ayuaddict]

vigilante justice as in kill/hurt anybody whom any given individual feels should be killed/hurt.

[bb4_96]

^Turn them in. I'm not as extreme to promote killing in the streets. But I'm more than for aprehending someone fuckin around.

Example - I almost got T-boned one night, maybe a year ago, coming home from the movies with my wife. Guy got out of the car and just staggered around mumbling in the intersection. He reeked of booze like he had just poured himself out of one of the local bars. When I asked my wife to call the cops he turned to head for his car so i decked him. I waited for the county cops to show up and they asked me some questions and I went on about my night. I realize I opened myself up to alot of liability but who's to say he would have missed me next time he gets a load on and drive home. He would have t-boned me doing about 50 on the passenger side... where my wife was sitting.

Maybe not the best example of vigilanteism but stories like that are the best I've got thus far.

[ayuaddict]

Oh, some vietnamese kid drove into one of my S13s and tried to bounce on me once, i chased him down while on the phone with the cops and then took care of business when he crashed again and tried to run on foot.

Doesn't mean im gonna go look for fools breakin' the law to "apprehend" them.

[bb4_96]

^ I suppose every little bit helps. If everybody did what they could it wouldn't be this bad.

[WanganRunner]

They will mention this thread when talking about your inevitable death on the local news.


Go get 'em, tiger!

[bb4_96]

I could just as easily die fighting in afganistan.

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

I could just as easily die fighting in afganistan.

getting shot in the face pretending to be a superhero is not the same thing as fighting for your country.

[bb4_96]

Maybe I failed to convey my thought. I don't propose we all dress up and start fighting crime like in the movie kick ass. The movie merely stirred my thoughts towards vigilante justice. I'll have to edit the original because i think a lot of speed readers are geeting hung up on that idea.

I just like the idea of vigilanteism. Ordinary people stepping up to the plate when the opportunity presents itself.

[J3123MY]

Oh Yay. Lets go get involved in other people's business and try to be a hero!

Personally, I wouldn't get involved, unless maybe if someone is about to get killed, raped, or something fairly bad was about to happen and was asking for help.

bb4 96 and ayuaddict, I wouldn't say your stories are vigilante because you are just looking out for yourself and your own interest.


G0OHsTks7_k

Be a vigilante like the fool in this video. lol.

[S14DB]

There is a difference between stopping a crime in progress that you happen upon and actively hunting for crimes and criminals.

The latter is vigilantism.

[soreballz]

I witnessed a rape in the alley next to my house a few years back. I called the police, and they didn't take me seriously.
I wanted to stop it, but they were armed, and at least one of the three guys had a gun. I couldn't do anything about it. But you can bet that if I had a gun, I would've shot all three of those motherfuckers.

In that instance, vigilante justice would've been acceptable, yes?

[J3123MY]

my bad. very true s14db.

Wow soreballz. Why didn't you just tell your dad? So the cops didn't take a real rape seriously? Great cops, very respectable people in our society. Even if they did take it seriously, they would have showed up an hour later.

[S14DB]

I witnessed a rape in the alley next to my house a few years back. I called the police, and they didn't take me seriously.
I wanted to stop it, but they were armed, and at least one of the three guys had a gun. I couldn't do anything about it. But you can bet that if I had a gun, I would've shot all three of those motherfuckers.

In that instance, vigilante justice would've been acceptable, yes?

That is not vigilantism. That's just acting as a Good Samaritan.

[soreballz]

Wow soreballz. Why didn't you just tell your dad? So the cops didn't take a real rape seriously? Great cops, very respectable people in our society. Even if they did take it seriously, they would have showed up an hour later.
I don't live with my dad, and I hadn't spoken to him for 5+ years prior to that incident. Not that it would've mattered anyway; last I heard, he was assigned to truant patrol on a bicycle. :keke:

And no, I'm sure the police would've taken me seriously, but the dispatcher sure didn't.


That is not vigilantism. That's just acting as a Good Samaritan.
I suppose you are correct. But somehow, I feel that splattering 3 dudes brains all over the ground is a step above just being a good samaritain.

[S14DB]

I suppose you are correct. But somehow, I feel that splattering 3 dudes brains all over the ground is a step above just being a good samaritain.

As long as you are allowed to have the gun(CWP). You say "hey stop it" they come after you, you feel threatened by their guns so you shoot them.
Stand your ground laws vary by state so you have to consider that you can't safely retreat. Fear that they may shoot at you if you run.

[Silviaracer1988]

if you think about it there are people who do that everyday. but not in the same sense everyone thinks. going out and hurting or killing on a daily basis. police officers, army, navy, marines, etc, etc, etc.... these are the people who thought the same thing and chose to do something about it. but just a normal person say a civilian, if it really comes down to it depending on the situations.

[bb4_96]

So kick ass was a vigilante because he went looking for trouble but gerard butler in law abiding citizen was not because he didn't?

[RNGWLD]

"when fighting monsters, take care that you don't become one yourself"

Problem with vigilantism is that, just like communism, it sounds fine IN THEORY.

In practice, it tends to bring out the bad traits in people.

For example, look at Colombia: The paramilitaries were originally organized to fight the guerrillas. The guerrillas took their land, carried out massacres, kidnappings, bombings, etc etc etc.

Nowadays, the paramilitaries are worse than that which they sought out to fight. They, like the guerrillas, are deeply involved in the drug trade, and have carried out massacres which are as bad, and in cases even worse than those by the guerrillas, against the civilian population.

There is a difference between stopping a crime in progress - That is something that NEEDS to be done- to becoming a self righteous sociopath who eventually becomes just as bad as those he "punishes"