Question regarding drop springs

[speedgod^s13]

I need to pass this reconstruction inspection that we have here in Hawaii. Basically, if you mod your car, it has to be inspected. One of the requirements is that if you drop your car, it has to have 2 inches of suspension travel. Which, I definately will not pass with my super drifts.:ddog: So, here is my question: What are the softest springs, that you guys know of, that will be able to give me that much travel?

[iamtheyi]

adjust the damping so that it's super soft....

[speedgod^s13]

adjust the damping so that it's super soft....

Already tried that. I just need info on the springs. Thanks.

[iamtheyi]

alright then. It's time to get desperate. Just get some stock suspension and just put them on your car. I know crimson was selling some lately. Don't know if he sold them.. and mrmemphi iirc

[Csomme]

get it inspected on stock shit, go home and throw the coilovers back on.

[cdlong]

why do you want soft springs? how do they do the test? do they just push o the car and measure the travel? they really need to specify that. you could have ultra stiff springs and as long as there's 2" before you hit the bump stops, you have 2" of travel.

or, you know, get it inspected on stock stuff and then swap back.

[speedgod^s13]

Sorry I wasn't specific enough. Basically, they are going to make me push down on my front fenders, and see if my suspension travels 2 inches. I can't run stock suspension, because I need to get inspected for the drop.

[nismoracingsx]

already got the coilovers adjusted to the highest height?

[S14DB]

How scientific is that? Push up and down? A heavy ass car is going to have a stiffer spring and harder to compress then a sub compact.

Should measure from the bump stop to the shock body like mentioned before. bouncing up and down just measures body roll. Springs, shocks and sway bars all effect it.

You got any really heavy friends to do the bouncing? Disconnect your sway bars. Pop off an end link on one side on the front and back.

[wh0aitznic0]

I'm pretty sure these cars DON'T have two inches of suspension travel.

http://themikel.net/upload/public/IMG_9080.jpg
http://themikel.net/upload/public/IMG_9093.jpg
http://themikel.net/upload/public/IMG_9095.jpg

All these are from that stupid hellaflush meet in Hawaii.

[90white240]

I dont know think this is agreat idea but here goes. Why dont you cut a pair of stock springs, so it will look like you have a drop, but it will still be soft enough to push down on it. Again I dont if it will work, or if its even a good Idea.

[Sam_Well.13]

I dont know think this is agreat idea but here goes. Why dont you cut a pair of stock springs, so it will look like you have a drop, but it will still be soft enough to push down on it. Again I dont if it will work, or if its even a good Idea.


it will be bouncy as hell... been there done that. them honda days. lol

[90white240]

Well I meant just to get it checked out, then afterwards put whatever suspension he has.

[theboy]

set your dampers really soft, if you coilovers, because even with 9k springs up front you should be able to get 2 inches of travel at a decent height. But if your super low already and they physically cant move more than 2" then your screwed. If you have cheap ebay coils with out an adjustable damper then swap the back springs with thr front cause they are generally "softer".

[Sam_Well.13]

oh i guess..

and for the OP, why dont you jst put stock springs and shocks during inspection, then throw your super duper drift suspension on after..

[cdlong]

the complete lack of reading comprehension in this thread astounds me.

How scientific is that? Push up and down? A heavy ass car is going to have a stiffer spring and harder to compress then a sub compact.

Should measure from the bump stop to the shock body like mentioned before. bouncing up and down just measures body roll. Springs, shocks and sway bars all effect it.

You got any really heavy friends to do the bouncing? Disconnect your sway bars. Pop off an end link on one side on the front and back.

i was going to say pretty much the same thing. i'd cry foul at the test station. they have to have a more specific test procedure in the lawbooks. i vote for the fat friend procedure.

[speedgod^s13]

To the guy that had the pictures of the Hellaflush event, i'm almost 100% sure, none of those cars have been inspected for recon, and if they did, there is no way they'd pass. Guys, I don't want to do this inspection. It's retarded, like you guys said. Who the hell pushes down on a fender, to determine if the suspension is soft enough? Apparantly, they do that here on Oahu. It's not scientific, it's just plain dumb. There is no cheating on this inspection, because if there was, i'd be jumping up and down on my door sill. :hyper: Thing is, i'm going to continue getting pulled over, and given $90+ tickets, if I don't get this reconstruction sticker. That, and i'm trying to stay away from the law, so that when I reapply for the police department, in 3 years it shows that i've been good. :rofl: Who here has run drop springs on stock shocks? How was the bounce, and what kind of springs? I'm thinking of going that route. I have to have some kind of drop, so please stop suggesting that I get inspected with stock suspension.

[cdlong]

Who here has run drop springs on stock shocks? How was the bounce, and what kind of springs?

Don't do it. Terrible idea, will blow shocks and ride terribly.

I have to have some kind of drop

I assure you, you don't.

We were suggesting the swap so you could get it done and go back to the coilovers after the inspection. If you want it to show that you've been good, maybe try actually being good and ride on stock suspension like you're "suppose to."

That being said, some KYBs and Eibach sportlines will look stock enough to stay away from Johnny Law, but still improve handling and make the car fun to drive, though it is in stock form too if you've ever tried it.

[speedgod^s13]

Don't do it. Terrible idea, will blow shocks and ride terribly.



I assure you, you don't.

We were suggesting the swap so you could get it done and go back to the coilovers after the inspection. If you want it to show that you've been good, maybe try actually being good and ride on stock suspension like you're "suppose to."

That being said, some KYBs and Eibach sportlines will look stock enough to stay away from Johnny Law, but still improve handling and make the car fun to drive, though it is in stock form too if you've ever tried it.

I'm not sure, if you are reading what I write, but let me clarify once again. I'm dropping my car. I need to get inspected, for the DROPThat being said, I CANNOT RUN STOCK SUSPENSION I'm following the law by trying to get this reconstruction permit. It tells cops that my car was modded, but to the legal standards of our county. Yes, i'm going to put in my coilovers after getting inspected, but that's because this inspection is a joke. I don't think they realize how hard it is to get 2 inches of suspension travel, even on most stock cars nowadays. Yes, i'm "supposed to" run stock suspension, but i'm not, and will not. I just want to be able to drive my dropped car, without being hassled. Now, can we please just stick to the subject at hand, which are springs, and or suspension that is super soft. I also forgot to add, I will not pass with cut stock springs, or cut drop springs. I don't care about the quality of the ride, hence why I asked about drop springs on stock shocks. I'm going to slap on whatever suspension gives me 2 inches of travel, drive down to the inspection station, get my sticker, and go home to put my coils back on.

[cdlong]

I was prepared to help you out but since you're getting all emotional and yelling, forget it. I don't know why it is you can't run stock suspension permanently, be it that you're compensating for something or low self esteem or what, but you may want to work on that first.

[speedgod^s13]

I was prepared to help you out but since you're getting all emotional and yelling, forget it. I don't know why it is you can't run stock suspension permanently, be it that you're compensating for something or low self esteem or what, but you may want to work on that first.

That's fine. The help you were giving, wasn't needed. Telling me to run my car stock, had absolutely nothing to do with this thread. If you had just read what I wrote, and stuck to the subject at hand, we would have gotten along just fine. Grow up, my self esteem has nothing to do with what height my car is. You sound like a mad little boy, bringing in that kind of non sense.

[Metal Angel]

wow... i can't get more than an inch of travel by pushing on the fender... and i have stock suspension! I can only get about a half inch of travel from my mazda3. its stock too.

[speedgod^s13]

wow... i can't get more than an inch of travel by pushing on the fender... and i have stock suspension! I can only get about a half inch of travel from my mazda3. its stock too.

That's what i'm saying. It's retarded. I may just look for blown shocks, and throw on some drop springs. That should give them their suspension travel!! :hyper:

[chris_240sx]

I don't have any personal experience with lowering springs, but you might look through these threads.

http://www.zilvia.net/f/archive-faqs/7590-spring-rate-archive.html

http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/103082-s13-14-spring-rates.html

The Eibach Prokit and Whiteline springs seem to be fairly soft in comparison to the other stuff. So you might be able to pick up one of those fairly cheap and then run some blown stock shocks with them to pass.

[Metal Angel]

you might be able to pick up one of those fairly cheap and then run some blown stock shocks with them to pass.

lol. this is so stupid... just the thought of taking off high performance suspension and putting on shitty springs and blown shocks to PASS inspection... its absurd.

blown shocks pass inspection... but better than oem quality suspension cannot. refuckintarded.

[chris_240sx]

lol. this is so stupid... just the thought of taking off high performance suspension and putting on shitty springs and blown shocks to PASS inspection... its absurd.

blown shocks pass inspection... but better than oem quality suspension cannot. refuckintarded.


I completely agree, seems like there should be a better way to test it or just no testing at all. I've never been to Hawaii though, so I don't know how it works around there.

[speedgod^s13]

Yes, it's stupid. But, it makes the state a lot of money. A recon violation ticket is 90 dollars. Majority of modified cars in Hawaii, do not have recon. That's a lot of income for the state. That's the only reason, they keep it alive. The inspection is bullshit, plain and simple. But, if you fail, you might not get inspected again, and bam more money for the state.

[Bigsyke]

I dont know think this is agreat idea but here goes. Why dont you cut a pair of stock springs, so it will look like you have a drop, but it will still be soft enough to push down on it. Again I dont if it will work, or if its even a good Idea.

You do know cutting coils from stock springs greatly increases the spring rate?

[mitcheyismyname]

To the guy that had the pictures of the Hellaflush event, i'm almost 100% sure, none of those cars have been inspected for recon, and if they did, there is no way they'd pass. Guys, I don't want to do this inspection. It's retarded, like you guys said. Who the hell pushes down on a fender, to determine if the suspension is soft enough? Apparantly, they do that here on Oahu. It's not scientific, it's just plain dumb. There is no cheating on this inspection, because if there was, i'd be jumping up and down on my door sill. :hyper: Thing is, i'm going to continue getting pulled over, and given $90+ tickets, if I don't get this reconstruction sticker. That, and i'm trying to stay away from the law, so that when I reapply for the police department, in 3 years it shows that i've been good. :rofl: Who here has run drop springs on stock shocks? How was the bounce, and what kind of springs? I'm thinking of going that route. I have to have some kind of drop, so please stop suggesting that I get inspected with stock suspension.


+1 for Honolulu. -1 for recon bullsh*t.

anyway....im riding on Tokico drop springs with stock struts. Ride isn't bouncy at all. It feels a tad bit stiffer than stock springs (SE) but overall the ride feels close to stock, with the exception of a 2 inch drop in the front and a 1/1/2 in the rear. struts are blown but w/e. i don't have money for a good coilover system yet.

anyway heres a reference pic to help you out. btw...you go to the NEX cruises?

stock:
http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab281/mitcheyismyname/DSC04402.jpg

Drop Springs:
http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab281/mitcheyismyname/DSC04726.jpg

[speedgod^s13]

Yeah, i've been coming out to the NEX cruises. It's kind of fun. Except when they drive so fucking slow on the freeway. You new to Hawaii?

[mitcheyismyname]

Yeah, i've been coming out to the NEX cruises. It's kind of fun. Except when they drive so fucking slow on the freeway. You new to Hawaii?


negative. Born and raised.....maui lol. but im in Honolulu for college. last nights one was pretty fun.

[speedgod^s13]

negative. Born and raised.....maui lol. but im in Honolulu for college. last nights one was pretty fun.

I see. I'll have more fun, when my built motor is done. :ddog:

[Metal Angel]

Honestly the idea seems great to me! Better than california where you flat out can't modify your cars legally, but also it keeps people from cutting their springs and making their cars unsafe.
Unfortunately... it apears their exocution is terrible. If they actually put your car through a decent test it would be great.