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silviaguy240
07-02-2010, 09:34 PM
YouTube - Seattle Police Brutality: Cop punches teen girl in face (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0WTcTzN96s)

i think he was well within his rights, even though it was just a jaywalking thing, things escalated. first girl resisted arrest and second girl tried to physically stop/assault him and used necessary force to deal with the situation.

HyperTek
07-02-2010, 09:39 PM
yeah I agree, girl had it coming , actually anybody has it coming when they put hands on a cop.

I think this is no big deal and media is blowing it out of proportion. Its not as bad as the cop mistakenly blasting someone.

MitchellBade
07-02-2010, 09:42 PM
This is kind of older news now, but I also think he did the best thing he could. Not the RIGHT thing, I love women, but in his scenario wouldn't most of us average people do the same thing? I'm sure he could have used mace or perhaps a taser if he has one but in the situation, being attacked and being the only officer there, ya punch her.

MandTPhotography
07-02-2010, 10:07 PM
Older news, but I would've tased the shit out of her until she started to fry.

Thing is, for all he knew, he was just getting attacked, so a punch was I'm sure first instinct.

It's DEFINITELY justified.

singlecamslam
07-02-2010, 10:10 PM
We need to give cops the authority to beat the shit out of people. I am Russian, in my country cops are allowed to just whipe the floors with people, and after that you think they would do it again? Here the media blows shit out of proportion because he gave a little punch. I bet she was being a stupid ass bitch and had it coming. God people piss me off.

Edit: i hate jaywalkers, i wish i could run them over. Its not hard to use a god damn cross walk.

Homer_Simpson
07-02-2010, 10:58 PM
The cop shows great restrain handling both of them bitches. The impulsive side of me would've beaten both of their asses.

I think he did his job.

yvang07
07-03-2010, 12:15 AM
The cop shows great restrain handling both of them bitches. The impulsive side of me would've beaten both of their asses.

I think he did his job.

Agreed, also if you watch the entire clip from when he initially confronts them, he handles himself very well. It's when he tries to restrain her that everyone decides to turn their camera phones and makes it look like the cop was in the wrong. "Oh noez! another cop abusing innocent people vid!"

cc4usmc
07-03-2010, 12:19 AM
She needed some of this too.

cPi5tU5iFr8

ronmcdon
07-03-2010, 12:55 AM
The bystanders were just annoying with their endless remarks of redundancy
"Are you serious?, for reals?" (repeat x million times over)
Uh yeah, it's a prank i guess.
saying stuff like that & using your cell camera definitely accomplishes the constructive.

I'm going to take the officer's side here.
IMO, he was more than reasonable.
it would've been less controversial if the KO wasn't thrown.
If it were me, I'd cuff both fatties to a pole or something & book the annoying bystanders for causing a public disturbance.

unlegendary
07-03-2010, 01:04 AM
yeah older news, but OMG look at that falcon punch to the vag!

soreballz
07-03-2010, 02:26 AM
One white cop surrounded by a massive crowd of angry black kids? Shit, they're lucky all he did was punch one bitch and cuff another. The cop must've been pretty worried for his safety once things started to escalate.
That situation could have gone a LOT worse. All things considered, I'd say he handled it very well.

ronmcdon
07-03-2010, 02:29 AM
I'd say they were more whiney & plain annoying than angry.
all they did was take pics and grumble amongst themselves.
the fat chicks were a lot tougher imo, having decided to wrestle the copper.

Kouki_monstr
07-03-2010, 02:35 AM
blah who cares..should he have hit her? No, but he is surrounded and probably was scared himself..thats what you get for resisting arrest.

soreballz
07-03-2010, 02:39 AM
I'd say they were more whiney & plain annoying than angry.
all they did was take pics and grumble amongst themselves.Either way... It could've gone a lot worse.

moocowmoo
07-03-2010, 02:41 AM
once it gets to the point of resisting arrest.... if im not mistaken.... you are allowed to use the necessary force to place the person under arrest depending on the situation the officer is in..

in this situation the officer used necessary force to subdue the person.... now if she would have been handcuffed...then punched... that would be a different story completely

raz0rbladez909
07-03-2010, 02:46 AM
damn i'm surprised the cop bashing hasn't begun already, lol i find it hilarious this bitch put her hands on him and didn't expect to get hit or smacked with a baton lol you resist arrest expect to get fucked up one way or another

upsdude
07-03-2010, 03:23 AM
maybe she made a remark about "amber lamps"

J3123MY
07-03-2010, 03:34 AM
Why did the cop have to punch her? Totally unjustified.

We need to give cops the authority to beat the shit out of people. I am Russian, in my country cops are allowed to just whipe the floors with people, and after that you think they would do it again?

Lucky for most of us (including you), we live in America.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRWJxn4PCwY&NR=1

CrimsonRockett
07-03-2010, 04:01 AM
Totally unjustified my ass. He was well within his rights.

Very few people would say "oh, if I was in his position, I would have handled it differently."

Well, guess what? You're not in his position. You're not a cop that has to deal with all sorts of bullshit from stupid ass people on a day to day basis.

If she had followed orders in the first place, none of this would have happened.

She got what she deserved. A swift punch to the face. Next time she'll think twice before resisting arrest.

damn i'm surprised the cop bashing hasn't begun already, lol i find it hilarious this bitch put her hands on him and didn't expect to get hit or smacked with a baton lol you resist arrest expect to get fucked up one way or another

This isn't one of those unwarranted attacks by a police officer. It was 100% justified.

Now, as said above, if she was in hand cuffs THEN he punched her in the face, that would have been completely wrong.

alindeman1989
07-03-2010, 05:25 AM
She got what was coming, not trying to judge but those girls the way they were acting were just ghetto. There is always 2 sides to every story. But from what i saw i side with the police. Many people bash them but who do you always call when your in trouble... the police. People need to have more respect for what these fine men and woman do everyday for us. my 2 cents.

racepar1
07-03-2010, 11:50 AM
Honestly, I would rather get punched in the face then maced or tazed. Bitch got off easy, she souldn't complain. Besides she deserved it, all that drama over a jaywalking ticket??? Dumbass...

aznpoopy
07-03-2010, 11:54 AM
he should have shot her.

FRpilot
07-03-2010, 01:20 PM
Honestly, I would rather get punched in the face then maced or tazed. Bitch got off easy, she souldn't complain. Besides she deserved it, all that drama over a jaywalking ticket??? Dumbass...

he should have tazed or maced them. he's going to be fucked now, even though those two got what they deserved.

Mi Beardo es Loco
07-03-2010, 01:33 PM
bitch should have gotten hit by her parents a LOOOONG time age. Instead they force the police to do it and start crying.

moral of the story: raise your kids right and they won't get socked by the 5-0

fliprayzin240sx
07-03-2010, 07:50 PM
Why did the cop have to punch her? Totally unjustified.



Lucky for most of us (including you), we live in America.

YouTube - Russians told to hit 'bad cops' back if they attack (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRWJxn4PCwY&NR=1)

Why dont you watch the video first? Plain and simple, you start resisting arrest and laying your hands on a cop...you will get FUCKED UP. Its not a fucking hard concept is it? Why dont you go to a cop and put your hands on him and see what happens.

Ghost240
07-04-2010, 02:44 PM
In this case I will agree that the girls were in the wrong. But in regards to the police.....don't trust em, don't like em and I do anything to avoid interaction with em. But when you gotta deal with em it's "no sir" or "no ma'am" and etc. It isn't worth ending up beaten on the road side or worse.

SlideWell
07-04-2010, 03:01 PM
if i remember right, cuz this is old news, that it happened on Martin Luther King BLVD near downtown seattle. ive been to that area, twice in the last 15 years, and simply said, theres a reason for that. never touch a cop, never resist arrest. take the ticket and move on, fight it in court, whatever. its funny cuz, as bad as that ENTIRE street is in seattle, he was looking out for her safety. bitch coulda got hit and died. instead, she got a punch to the FACE!!! in the end, i think he should have mased her tho instead of sockin her one. oh well. u know the bitch is filing a lawsuit, and i hope she DOESNT win.

bb4_96
07-05-2010, 04:17 PM
society won't tolerate these bullshit "hate crime" shinanigans much longer.

ESmorz
07-05-2010, 04:50 PM
society won't tolerate these bullshit "hate crime" shinanigans much longer.

How in the bloody fuck was this a hate crime?

The people here who are siding with the dumb bitch who laid her hands on an officer, mid arrest mind you, are giant fucking dildos.

jspaeth
07-05-2010, 08:17 PM
How in the bloody fuck was this a hate crime?

The people here who are siding with the dumb bitch who laid her hands on an officer, mid arrest mind you, are giant fucking dildos.

I think he was saying the people who call this a "hate crime" are themselves idiots....

ronmcdon
07-05-2010, 11:59 PM
idiots AND self-righteous racists

driftsilvias13
07-06-2010, 12:00 AM
Totally deserved it.

SRdSil8T
07-06-2010, 12:07 AM
Lol, first vid..totally deserved that one. Guy or girl, walk up to a cop that's arresting someone and go after them to touch them and see what happens. I would have done the same thing, if not drawn my weapon. Surrounded like that and being the only cop on scene, no telling what kind of shit can happen to you. DOES NOT MATTER race or whatever, human for human, that's a total unsafe situation for any cop!

Second vid, that one looked a little over the top, but not sure what the girl did to deserve that.

MandTPhotography
07-06-2010, 12:24 AM
To the guys defending the girls...


You are fucking stupid.

J3123MY
07-06-2010, 01:39 AM
Lol. I'm not siding with the girl, but why did the cop have to punch the girl?


Why dont you watch the video first? Plain and simple, you start resisting arrest and laying your hands on a cop...you will get FUCKED UP. Its not a fucking hard concept is it? Why dont you go to a cop and put your hands on him and see what happens.

How can any true man just punch a girl?

Lol, I did watch it. fuck if a girl started just grabbing your wrist and pushing you, you gonna just punch the girl? lol. I dono man, to get me to punch a girl shes gotta really be beating my ass or something? Fuck I mean id maybe pimp slap her or some shit, but hitting a girl close fisted is pretty bad, and the cop was being a pussy for doing that. He got scared from a girl grabbing his wrist and pushing him, where he felt he had to punch her. Fucking pussy.



It was her fault for resisting, but the cop definitely used excessive force.

soreballz
07-06-2010, 05:21 AM
^ Cool, let's put you in that situation and see how you handle some angry bitch shoving you and putting her hands near the gun on your belt. In his eyes, his life was in danger. The dumb cunt is lucky all he did was punch her. I would've shot the bitch.

murda-c
07-06-2010, 06:51 AM
Lol. I'm not siding with the girl, but why did the cop have to punch the girl?




How can any true man just punch a girl?

Lol, I did watch it. fuck if a girl started just grabbing your wrist and pushing you, you gonna just punch the girl? lol. I dono man, to get me to punch a girl shes gotta really be beating my ass or something? Fuck I mean id maybe pimp slap her or some shit, but hitting a girl close fisted is pretty bad, and the cop was being a pussy for doing that. He got scared from a girl grabbing his wrist and pushing him, where he felt he had to punch her. Fucking pussy.



It was her fault for resisting, but the cop definitely used excessive force.

You really think the same rules apply for a girl hitting a random dude and a girl hitting an armed and uniformed officer of the law who is in the process of making an arrest?

She's lucky she didn't get tasered or hit with a billy club.

5pecialist
07-06-2010, 07:43 AM
How can any true man just punch a girl?
:ghey:

Did you not watch the video? That was no girl, that was a criminal resisting arrest. Gender is non-issue at that point.

JVD
07-06-2010, 07:58 AM
Why did the cop have to punch her? Totally unjustified.


Because she was basically attacking an officer. That shit doesn't fly...even in mighty america. Cops deal with criminals all day. They need to protect themselves. This isn't some playground fight.

Stay in school kid.

cantdrift11
07-06-2010, 08:03 AM
he should have shot her.

nice... what do you expect when you resist a cop. You NEVER put your hands on a cop.:hide:

ZenkiKid
07-06-2010, 08:11 AM
saw the vid a while back, I think she deserved it. Thats what happens when you provoke someone, especially a cop.

kandyflip445
07-06-2010, 09:55 AM
She totally deserved it.

I'm starting to get over the "don't ever hit a girl" thing. Equal rights, right? That doesn't mean I'm gonna go around just punching women though. lol

bb4_96
07-06-2010, 10:09 AM
I'm gonna second the v-punch

Homer_Simpson
07-06-2010, 10:54 AM
She totally deserved it.

I'm starting to get over the "don't ever hit a girl" thing. Equal rights, right? That doesn't mean I'm gonna go around just punching women though. lol
Yup, if they have the balls to attack you then they should expect you to fight back as well.

J3123MY
07-06-2010, 03:36 PM
^ Cool, let's put you in that situation and see how you handle some angry bitch shoving you and putting her hands near the gun on your belt. In his eyes, his life was in danger. The dumb cunt is lucky all he did was punch her. I would've shot the bitch.

Dude, I wouldn't have socked the girl in the face. For sure. The girl was definitely stupid for touching the cop, but the cop already had grabbed one of her wrists when he socked her. Why didn't he just go for the other wrist? The girl showed no sign that she was gonna hit him, she in fact looked kinda shocked and scared that she pushed him. And as I watched the video again, the cop wasn't in fear that he punched her but in anger. Look at his face. As a cop, emotions shouldn't really get in the way. He basically punched the bitch out of anger. Honestly, that cop could have easily gotten the situation under the control by just grabbing her other wrist and submitting her. And if the cop isn't able to control the girl (although she was bigger then him lol) he shouldn't even be a cop to being with.

Because she was basically attacking an officer. That shit doesn't fly...even in mighty america. Cops deal with criminals all day. They need to protect themselves. This isn't some playground fight.

Oh, that cop was really defending himself. lol.

Under law, what she did would be considered assault, but come on, that was a girl pushing him. She didn't slap or hit him or anything. You guys are pussy's if you call that assault.

The punch to the face was fucking excessive. Did he really need to punch her to control her? Cause cops should only use however much force is necessary to control the situation with th least amount of casualties. Honestly, I think if you put a lot of other cops, especially la county sheriffs, under the same situation, their response would have been much different.

Lol. Lets give cops guns and badges and let them shoot whatever and whenever they want. YAY!

murda-c
07-06-2010, 03:50 PM
Dude, I wouldn't have socked the girl in the face. For sure. The girl was definitely stupid for touching the cop, but the cop already had grabbed one of her wrists when he socked her. Why didn't he just go for the other wrist? The girl showed no sign that she was gonna hit him, she in fact looked kinda shocked and scared that she pushed him. And as I watched the video again, the cop wasn't in fear that he punched her but in anger. Look at his face. As a cop, emotions shouldn't really get in the way. He basically punched the bitch out of anger. Honestly, that cop could have easily gotten the situation under the control by just grabbing her other wrist and submitting her. And if the cop isn't able to control the girl (although she was bigger then him lol) he shouldn't even be a cop to being with.



Oh, that cop was really defending himself. lol.

Under law, what she did would be considered assault, but come on, that was a girl pushing him. She didn't slap or hit him or anything. You guys are pussy's if you call that assault.

The punch to the face was fucking excessive. Did he really need to punch her to control her? Cause cops should only use however much force is necessary to control the situation with th least amount of casualties. Honestly, I think if you put a lot of other cops, especially la county sheriffs, under the same situation, their response would have been much different.

Lol. Lets give cops guns and badges and let them shoot whatever and whenever they want. YAY!

This guy is saying this knowing if it was him who had pushed a cop mid arrest he'd be crying about how they tasered him or broke his nose with a billy club.

soreballz
07-06-2010, 04:00 PM
Honestly, I think if you put a lot of other cops, especially la county sheriffs, under the same situation, their response would have been much different.

Hahahahaha. As the son of an LA County Sheriff deputy, I can tell you that the LA County Sheriffs would've beaten the fuck out of that bitch with their batons.

Man, you really are an idiot. Spend some time talking to an officer about events like this and you'll understand why he reacted that way. You may also come to understand why that particular officer will not get in any trouble as a result of that incident.

bb4_96
07-06-2010, 04:12 PM
^ Have you ever been on the street or even the side of town where this happened. Did you see the crowd of people gathering around the situation. I'd like to see officer mc smootherton over here casually handle a biligerent criminal while another biligerent criminal physically breaks into your resisting arrest with a group of surely pissed off bystanders amassing behind your back. Have you ever been stabbed or shot?

idea is to suppress all potential threats in the quickest way possible. If the girl is momentarily deterred from PHYSICALLY INTERFERING WITH YOUR ARREST then you can complete the task of arresting jaywalker and then proceed to arrest unarmed assailant.

So don't try to make it sound like its just two fucking innocent girlies playing tug of war and the big mean cop punched the little girl in the face. There was alot more going on in that scene than just the two girls. If i was an angry bystander mad at the world and wanting to fuck up a cop I'd do it while his back was turned to me... maybe while he's occupied with something else. It doesn't take alot to have a situation escalate out of hand.

Oh but right he should have been like you and played touchy feely with the second girl while the jaywalker recovers and pulls a 2 incher out of her boot, effectively pumping a couple rounds into the back of his head. Your such an idiot to think that everything can be handle so fucking delicately.

I didn't fight for this country so biligerent ignorant assholes can pull shit like this with the people charged with it's safety and well being.

If i had the coin to drop I would file a lawsuit against the second girl for bastardizing the american dream. What kind of lala land do you wake up in where you can just go push around a cop, especially one who's in the middle of making an arrest? What in the hell would possess a person to actually lay a hand on a police officer? Obviously a scum of the river criminal.

And no this isn't a gender issue. Had this been a young white girl instead the news wouldn't even have aired it. And if they did it would have just been "snotty white girl gets what she deserves for interfering arrest".

What a load of nonsense. I feel bad for the cops that have fallen victim this type of thing. They're forced to walk a fine line and nobody has there back until another police officer winds up dead.

smoken805s14/s13
07-06-2010, 04:18 PM
get em cops

soreballz
07-06-2010, 04:34 PM
words
Ding ding ding, we have a winner.

bb4_96
07-06-2010, 04:34 PM
hold on let me go ask my 6 year old niece what would happen if she punches a police officer when she grows up.

JVD
07-06-2010, 08:45 PM
cry baby talking

I would punch you right in the face if I saw you in real life.

Then you would say "ahhhh jeeeze! man! ahhhh mannnnn. was that necessary? jeeze."

Then you'd go complain about how it's unfair on the internet.

JDMS13Louie
07-06-2010, 09:03 PM
I think this would have gone a lot smoother if the cop would have just Falcon Vag Punched her. Just saying...

bb4_96
07-07-2010, 05:19 AM
^^ haha 3rd

s13 @ fullboost
07-07-2010, 05:29 AM
gun point ftmw

J3123MY
07-07-2010, 03:19 PM
I would punch you right in the face if I saw you in real life.

Then you would say "ahhhh jeeeze! man! ahhhh mannnnn. was that necessary? jeeze."

Then you'd go complain about how it's unfair on the internet.

LOL. Your funny. I dare you to and see what happens to you. Come over here Canadian. When did i ever complain? I'm stating my opinion that a punch was not necessary for the situation.

Hahahahaha. As the son of an LA County Sheriff deputy, I can tell you that the LA County Sheriffs would've beaten the fuck out of that bitch with their batons.

Man, you really are an idiot. Spend some time talking to an officer about events like this and you'll understand why he reacted that way. You may also come to understand why that particular officer will not get in any trouble as a result of that incident.

Lol. Not everyone is like your father, trying to hit everything with their batons. I'm saying I feel that the Sheriffs would have handled the situation better and quicker, idiot.

This guy is saying this knowing if it was him who had pushed a cop mid arrest he'd be crying about how they tasered him or broke his nose with a billy club.

Lol. I'm not the crying type, nor would i push a cop mid arrest. Stop making assumptions, son.

idea is to suppress all potential threats in the quickest way possible. If the girl is momentarily deterred from PHYSICALLY INTERFERING WITH YOUR ARREST then you can complete the task of arresting jaywalker and then proceed to arrest unarmed assailant.

Oh yea, that cop really took care of that situation quick. He was struggling with the girls for a long ass time. Any time that he was struggling with that girl someone could have come up.

Oh but right he should have been like you and played touchy feely with the second girl while the jaywalker recovers and pulls a 2 incher out of her boot, effectively pumping a couple rounds into the back of his head. Your such an idiot to think that everything can be handle so fucking delicately.

LOL. He still ended up struggling and playing "touch feely" with the girl for ever. I'm just saying that it would have been best to just drop her to the ground and handcuff her, which is kind of what I imagined the sheriffs doing. I know its easier said then done, but its a girl for crying out loud. That cop had a hell of time struggling to control that situation. He punches her and struggles with her, while the whole time anyone could have come up from behind. So his punch was worth less, it didn't make it safer for him, if anything it probably made the crowd angrier. lol.



Basically, the girl did something pretty stupid, but it appears as if the cop punched her out of rage, which really didn't make the situation any better, as he still ends up struggling with her for a long ass time, while any of the bystanders still could have attacked his ass. Cop handled the situation like shit.

niteridaz503
07-07-2010, 04:02 PM
I agree with what most of you are saying, she acted up so she got punched lol plain & simple the cop did what he felt was best for the situation.

LimeLite Racing
07-07-2010, 05:01 PM
Lol I can't believe that guy actually got on his knees and punched that chick in her vag.

codyace
07-10-2010, 10:37 AM
LOL. Your funny. I dare you to and see what happens to you. Come over here Canadian. When did i ever complain? I'm stating my opinion that a punch was not necessary for the situation.

lol, 19 year old billy bad ass on Zilvia. You talk about cops handling the situation like shit, yet you post nonsense like that? Sort of ironic (don't you think?)

I would have loved to see you in a situation like this. It's amazing what happens in the heat of the moment when you're trying to control people, crowds, and a situation. Trust me when I say, it's not as easy as you think. Sure it's easy to point out things from the armchair, monday morning quarterback style, but it's much different in real life.

Instead of saying the cop acted like shit, think of it this way:

1. He arrested two girls
2. He kept the crowd at bay
3. He didn't use deadly force
4. He didn't resort to any non leathal force.

What should have he done, smashed her to the ground, beaned her head off the fender a few times, and then cuffed her? I think he did as well as possible, giving the situation.

SHARKERIOcoupe
07-11-2010, 12:44 AM
he had to do it.

what was crazy is the clip at the end of the 15 year old girl in the jail cell...getting jumped.

and the lower thirds are great to - "American" police officers. yup

BOROSUN
07-11-2010, 01:08 AM
could have been handle differently... don't these cops watch steve segal movies?

J3123MY
07-13-2010, 12:23 AM
lol, 19 year old billy bad ass on Zilvia. You talk about cops handling the situation like shit, yet you post nonsense like that? Sort of ironic (don't you think?)

I would have loved to see you in a situation like this. It's amazing what happens in the heat of the moment when you're trying to control people, crowds, and a situation. Trust me when I say, it's not as easy as you think. Sure it's easy to point out things from the armchair, monday morning quarterback style, but it's much different in real life.

Instead of saying the cop acted like shit, think of it this way:

1. He arrested two girls
2. He kept the crowd at bay
3. He didn't use deadly force
4. He didn't resort to any non leathal force.

What should have he done, smashed her to the ground, beaned her head off the fender a few times, and then cuffed her? I think he did as well as possible, giving the situation.


Lol. The other guy started being a bad ass first. And what was so nonsense about it, eh?

Look, who knows how I might have handled the situation. But that is not important as I am not a cop. Being a police officer is a crazy position, and only the calmest, logical, cool-headed, honest people should be elected to this position, which unfortunately is not the case.

and lets look at your 4 points lol.

1. We actually never saw the arrest of the two girls, but rather him "touchy feely" them the whole time.
2. Lol. The crowd chose to not do anything, because attacking a cop is super bad, as this girl found out. So technically, the punishment of attacking a police officer kept them at bay. If the crowd wanted to, they could have fucked up that cop any time. lol.
3. I guess he didnt use any deadly force, but why would he on two unarmed females?
4. LOL At this. Are you serious???? Did you even see the video???? This is like the whole point of this whole damn discussion? I seriously suggest you watch this video again as you failed to notice the climax. LOL! If this was true, this thread and video would cease to exist.

bb4_96
07-13-2010, 05:03 AM
Non lethal force = taser or cs

soreballz
07-13-2010, 11:17 AM
1. We actually never saw the arrest of the two girls, but rather him "touchy feely" them the whole time.
You haven't seen the full video, have you? Look it up on YouTube.


Non lethal force = taser or csThis guy knows what's up.

Mi Beardo es Loco
07-13-2010, 01:23 PM
Look, it breaks down to this, these cops are being shot at and killed around the country. We have these doucsh bags rioting in Oak right now and saying that cops aren't necessary and "death to all cops". I'm not going to comment on what happened on the bart but that kind of thinking is nation wide. Just look at those two fine gentlemen cops that were shot in Florida like 2 weeks ago. The guy had 40 felonies and was OUT of jail.
Basically if the cops are too gentle then they open themselves up to harm or death. Cops haveto use their OWN discretion and I completely agree with his use of force in that instance. Was she hurt? no. Did she break any bones? no. So basically he used the punch as a tool to calm the situation and it worked. Don't say "oh you can't punch a girl" because she was swinging on a COP and she jaywalked. What kind of punishment does jaywalking give? a small ticket? but now she's in MUCH deeper waters because she decided to assault the officer and she got arrested.
Everyone who thinks it was excessive needs to wipe their vaginas and try to live ONE DAY in the life as a cop.

sidewaysil80
07-13-2010, 02:00 PM
Non lethal force = taser or cs

LOL well technically he used deadly force because he socked her in the face which is a red area lol...non lethal consists of oc, taser (you were correct), and additionally baton strikes to green areas/joint manipulation. any strikes to a red area (face/head, spine, kidneys, groin, elbow, knee) are considered deadly force. deadly force consists of death OR serious bodily harm.

the only reason i made that rant was its actually something i deal with on a daily basis and it's part of my job (sorry for coming off like a know-it-all):werd:

cop was justified though because their temper and intent showed anger and agression AND their hands were near his weapon multiple times!!!!!!!! so legally he could have jumped right to deadly force if he had wanted to. J3123MY you sir are a mongoloid...you don't know what your talking about and i'm kinda embarassed for you. i suppose he should have tasered/pepper sprayed her? I unlike you speak from experience and say it was nicer of him to punch her than taser or pepper spray her. but he knew that and was actually doing the least painful method to subdue a violent aggressor...unorthodox maybe...but it worked.

J3123MY
07-13-2010, 03:59 PM
Everyone who thinks it was excessive needs to wipe their vaginas and try to live ONE DAY in the life as a cop.

Honestly I dont think being a cop is that dangerous.

America's most dangerous jobs - Sep. 23, 2005 (http://money.cnn.com/2005/08/26/pf/jobs_jeopardy/)

Plus, if you want to be a cop, you should know your gonna have to deal with crazy fuckers.

Carrying a badge and a gun, being able to arrest others, being able to run red lights, speed through everywhere, disobey traffic rules, shine bright ass lights on other people, fuck with other people, free shit from 7-11 all day everyday,........That shit doesnt sound so bad. lol.

J3123MY you sir are a mongoloid

lol. What the fuck is this? Is this suppose to be an insult or some shit? Im gonna have to say this is kinda true. lol at this.


Ok, allright I watched another more fuller video soreballz.

That dude kinda saved the girl in pink and got her away from the cop.So what I dont understand, is if the cop punched the other girl, why didnt he punch the girl resisting arrest, minus well right? Cuz i saw the video and it took him straight up forever to get that girl under control. Pathedically long. Any time he was struggling with that girl he could have been attacked. So why didnt he just punch her too under you people's logic.


Lol. I dont even really care about this. Its not even that bad. And I dont know or care about the bitch, but she kinda had it coming. I just feel like the cop took forever to handle pretty much one woman, and threw out a punch that didnt really do shit, because in the end, that black dude helped the cop out by removing the girl who pushed him.

Mi Beardo es Loco
07-13-2010, 06:39 PM
Honestly I dont think being a cop is that dangerous.

America's most dangerous jobs - Sep. 23, 2005 (http://money.cnn.com/2005/08/26/pf/jobs_jeopardy/)

Plus, if you want to be a cop, you should know your gonna have to deal with crazy fuckers.

Carrying a badge and a gun, being able to arrest others, being able to run red lights, speed through everywhere, disobey traffic rules, shine bright ass lights on other people, fuck with other people, free shit from 7-11 all day everyday,........That shit doesnt sound so bad. lol.



lol. What the fuck is this? Is this suppose to be an insult or some shit? Im gonna have to say this is kinda true. lol at this.


Ok, allright I watched another more fuller video soreballz.

That dude kinda saved the girl in pink and got her away from the cop.So what I dont understand, is if the cop punched the other girl, why didnt he punch the girl resisting arrest, minus well right? Cuz i saw the video and it took him straight up forever to get that girl under control. Pathedically long. Any time he was struggling with that girl he could have been attacked. So why didnt he just punch her too under you people's logic.


Lol. I dont even really care about this. Its not even that bad. And I dont know or care about the bitch, but she kinda had it coming. I just feel like the cop took forever to handle pretty much one woman, and threw out a punch that didnt really do shit, because in the end, that black dude helped the cop out by removing the girl who pushed him.
look, being a cop is a very honorable occupation. It's not just "getting free shit at 7-11". They don't go around just fucking with people either. And look, sometimes they do seem to fuck with people, as I got hastled in the past for the car that I drove but I understand that stupid FUCKS with the same style car do do bad shit and it was my decision to modify my vehicle the way I did knowing the consequences.
I understand this is a car forum and that some kiddies feel they have been wronged by cops but I've seen a TON of bad shit for being in places I shouldn't have. I've seen 2 people killed in the San Fran area at the "local races." I've seen cars loose control and barrel into a crowd of people in Barstow. Bad things happen in places like that but I went there KNOWINGLY and cops know what type of cars go to those types of places and they'll stop people and fuck with them to deter a 18 year old with a 69 Camaro RS-SS from driving down the 15 freeway WAY too fast (why is everyone looking at me?) with a serious threat of hurting someone.
I didn't understand it until I was older and really underestimated the job of law enforcement until I did a couple ride-a-longs (which is everyone's right as an American). I encourage everyone to do the same thing because even if you respect cops now, you'll respect them more after the ride-a-longs.

SochBAT
07-13-2010, 07:20 PM
why didnt he punch the girl resisting arrest, minus well right?

FUCK.

MIGHT AS WELL.

Why would you even subtract a well?

As soon as I read that, it rendered your entire post irrelevant.

TurboSE
07-14-2010, 01:55 AM
took guts to handle the situation how he did...I may sound racist, but a lone white cop...using force on a black girl with a crowd of black bystanders...could have got ugly really fast.

PS - I'd say the same if it was a black cop in a trailer park....

spools420a
07-14-2010, 03:10 AM
that punch did the trick she stopped trying to interfere with the arrest after that,If it wasnt for the punch the girl in pink would have kept trying to stop the officer no doubt and after the punch she was gone,Id rather take that punch then to be laying on the ground with two tazer prongs stuck in my stomach.Eather way the girl has no respect for authority and had that comming and it worked like a charm.

Also relise if this was in a 3rd world country the girls woulda been billy clubbed into submission.

sidewaysil80
07-14-2010, 03:17 AM
Honestly I dont think being a cop is that dangerous.
America's most dangerous jobs - Sep. 23, 2005 (http://money.cnn.com/2005/08/26/pf/jobs_jeopardy/)
Plus, if you want to be a cop, you should know your gonna have to deal with crazy fuckers.
Carrying a badge and a gun, being able to arrest others, being able to run red lights, speed through everywhere, disobey traffic rules, shine bright ass lights on other people, fuck with other people, free shit from 7-11 all day everyday,........That shit doesnt sound so bad. lol.


because yeah, thats ALL cops ever do. its not like they respond to violent crimes on a daily basis, get shot/injured at routine traffic stops because the person they are stopping is on the run, they don't deal with violent drunk people on a DAILY basis, or domestic disputes, armed fellons, etc. not too mention the long hours/night shifts away from their family... all for meager pay and disrespect from punk kids who think they are so smart and qualified to pass judgement on men with more dignity and sense of duty then they have years in puberty. grow up kid

ps.
the ranking you posted is based on fatality only...not injury. and to be honest i didn't see military on there so i'm not sure how entirely accurate it is.

codyace
07-14-2010, 09:18 AM
and lets look at your 4 points lol.

1. We actually never saw the arrest of the two girls, but rather him "touchy feely" them the whole time.

So all arrests go by the book...ya know bad guy turning, cuffs on, back of car? How else do you contain someone? Do you have any experience?


2. Lol. The crowd chose to not do anything, because attacking a cop is super bad, as this girl found out. So technically, the punishment of attacking a police officer kept them at bay. If the crowd wanted to, they could have fucked up that cop any time. lol.

That's the entire thing - if they wanted to, they could have. I'm certain the cop would have pulled his pistol out, but that's besdies. My point here was, he was dealing with a crowd...it's not like they said 'ok bro we're not fighting'. Good crowd control is just that - he did fine.


3. I guess he didnt use any deadly force, but why would he on two unarmed females?

Why does sex make any difference? Or skin color? or Religious Background? It doesn't. It's about cop vs. civilian/suspect.


4. LOL At this. Are you serious???? Did you even see the video???? This is like the whole point of this whole damn discussion? I seriously suggest you watch this video again as you failed to notice the climax. LOL! If this was true, this thread and video would cease to exist.

I did watch the entire video - I have been part of situations myself like this.



Honestly I dont think being a cop is that dangerous.

Is this your first attempt at trolling a thread/forum? It hasta be.

S14DB
07-14-2010, 09:50 AM
J3123MY you sir are a mongoloid...you don't know what your talking about and i'm kinda embarassed for you.

Break the rules, get banned.

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J3123MY
07-14-2010, 07:21 PM
FUCK.

MIGHT AS WELL.

Why would you even subtract a well?

As soon as I read that, it rendered your entire post irrelevant.

Lol. Its called a grammatical error. Everyone does it. Yes, even you. Sorry grammar Nazi. And if you want to be like that, when did FUCK. and MIGHT AS WELL. become a sentence? And when is it appropriate to capitalize a whole sentence?

because yeah, thats ALL cops ever do. its not like they respond to violent crimes on a daily basis, get shot/injured at routine traffic stops because the person they are stopping is on the run, they don't deal with violent drunk people on a DAILY basis, or domestic disputes, armed fellons, etc. not too mention the long hours/night shifts away from their family... all for meager pay and disrespect from punk kids who think they are so smart and qualified to pass judgement on men with more dignity and sense of duty then they have years in puberty. grow up kid

Enforcing the law doesn't mean your above it. They wanted to be a cop in the first place. BTW, never passed judgement, just opinion.

Is this your first attempt at trolling a thread/forum? It hasta be.

Lol. Just stating my opinion. If it is my first attempt, not bad, eh?

ps.
the ranking you posted is based on fatality only...not injury. and to be honest i didn't see military on there so i'm not sure how entirely accurate it is.

Yea, same thing I thought, actually. But i still posted it lol. Its CNN though



I wouldn't even take the mongoloid as a person attack.

Mongoloid–adjective
1.
resembling the Mongols.
2.
Anthropology . of, pertaining to, or characteristic of one of the traditional racial divisions of humankind, marked by yellowish complexion, prominent cheekbones, epicanthic folds about the eyes, and straight black hair, and including the Mongols, Manchus, Chinese, Koreans, Japanese, Annamese, Siamese, Burmese, Tibetans, and, to some extent, the Eskimos and the American Indians: no longer in technical use.
3.
( often lowercase ) Pathology . (no longer in technical use) of, affected with, or characteristic of down syndrome

Basically, he called me Asian, which I am. Unless he meant definition 3, but dictionary.com says its "no longer in technical use"

did watch the entire video - I have been part of situations myself like this.

My bad, I didn't know the governments definition of non-lethal force as taser and pepper spray, but someone said the force he actually used was lethal due to the head region attacked. So, then how did you react in those situations?


look, being a cop is a very honorable occupation. It's not just "getting free shit at 7-11". They don't go around just fucking with people either. And look, sometimes they do seem to fuck with people, as I got hastled in the past for the car that I drove but I understand that stupid FUCKS with the same style car do do bad shit and it was my decision to modify my vehicle the way I did knowing the consequences.
I understand this is a car forum and that some kiddies feel they have been wronged by cops but I've seen a TON of bad shit for being in places I shouldn't have. I've seen 2 people killed in the San Fran area at the "local races." I've seen cars loose control and barrel into a crowd of people in Barstow. Bad things happen in places like that but I went there KNOWINGLY and cops know what type of cars go to those types of places and they'll stop people and fuck with them to deter a 18 year old with a 69 Camaro RS-SS from driving down the 15 freeway WAY too fast (why is everyone looking at me?) with a serious threat of hurting someone.
I didn't understand it until I was older and really underestimated the job of law enforcement until I did a couple ride-a-longs (which is everyone's right as an American). I encourage everyone to do the same thing because even if you respect cops now, you'll respect them more after the ride-a-longs.

I kinda respect cops (not really), as we do need them in society. Especially the police officers that are honest. But police officers are here to enforce the law, not to be above it. And just like all human beings, there are good and bad cops. I actually knew a guy who became a cop, but quit because he was really honest and saw too much corruption. The guy is kinda weird though, like his not one of the boys.

So, lol we can just go on ride a longs with them if we wanted to?

Mi Beardo es Loco
07-14-2010, 07:41 PM
I kinda respect cops (not really), as we do need them in society. Especially the police officers that are honest. But police officers are here to enforce the law, not to be above it. And just like all human beings, there are good and bad cops. I actually knew a guy who became a cop, but quit because he was really honest and saw too much corruption. The guy is kinda weird though, like his not one of the boys.

So, lol we can just go on ride a longs with them if we wanted to?
it's your right as an American. lol. but seriously, yeah you can.

And I'm not saying all cops are wonderful people. I'm sure some cops get off the job, go home, do some heroine and beat their wife and kids. Just like the military, however, the majority of them are good people and have good intentions but some DO become cops and join the military for the benefits they get. And, sure, cops do get treated differently outside their job but it's the same thing if you work at Carls Jr. and you go to lunch. I'm sure you could easily get a free Big Carl and no one around you will say shit. Unless it's something major, cops will look out for cops.

ronmcdon
07-14-2010, 08:48 PM
Yeah 'Mongoloid' is just some old fashioned way of calling somebody asian.
some ppl find it offensive.
then again some ppl find pretty much anything offensive.
I'm asian as well and i could care less either way.

I find it hard to believe all asiatic ppls desended from the Mongols, but whatever.

codyace
07-14-2010, 10:35 PM
No Personal Attacks. Take some time off.

poor choice of words by him for sure, but at the same time, lets take a look at the j3132my's trolling antics - he has no purpose int hsi thread other than trying to get people fired up by saying cops are worthless.

bb4_96
07-15-2010, 09:55 AM
not to get off topic but what is trolling?

ronmcdon
07-15-2010, 10:15 AM
As I understand it, trolling is just posting shit just to stir attention back to yourself, and for no other reason other than that.
i.e. posting up stuff to piss ppl off, arguing for the sake of arguing.
no doubt urbandictionary.com has better defintions.

Of course, maturity goes both ways.
Some things are better left ignored,
if a response is needed, be mature in going about it.

bb4_96
07-15-2010, 07:37 PM
dude zilvia is notorious for trolling!

ronmcdon
07-16-2010, 12:05 AM
what site isn't?

jza240sx
07-16-2010, 12:10 AM
tisk tisk she had it comin

bb4_96
07-16-2010, 10:34 AM
what site isn't?

NRR has very little

40cal
07-30-2010, 03:35 AM
she should of just listened.
some people just dont get it. a friend of mine did that years ago and and was thrown in jail
dumb ass

spindrift187
07-30-2010, 04:33 AM
lol you realize this thread was over two weeks old right?

Corbic
09-23-2011, 06:55 PM
yeah I agree, girl had it coming , actually anybody has it coming when they put hands on a cop.

I think this is no big deal and media is blowing it out of proportion. Its not as bad as the cop mistakenly blasting someone.


This. Touching a cop is just stupid. It looked to me like the two where nearly mauling him. Everything else appeared to be an officer trying to get two unruly girls under control.

As for "jay walking", hmmm.. I'd like to see a report on that. The news if foreign and the presentators attitude is clearly biased.

Otto347
09-23-2011, 07:27 PM
lol you realize this thread is over a year old right?

:werd:.............

TougeLove
09-23-2011, 08:02 PM
i see what you did there. hahah *like