Get it, or Get off.

[maxxdsix]

Alright guys, well im in a predicament and i think you all can help. Right now i have a 2003 Mazda 6, some of you guys from TST know of me (outtowin, crazysaywaht) but the 6 is giving me some problems now and im looking to get rid of it. Now I have always loved the 240, especially the s15, but we weren't blessed with them on this side of the world, but i love the s14 too. Now im not really sure what made me start to get into these again all of a sudden when i was having problems with the 6, but now im hooked. The 240 will give me more power then the 6, its also not fwd *yuck*. But if i do start looking at 240's, mainly s14's I want to know what you guys, as 240 owners think about them.

First, im 17, almost 18, but work my a** off and have enough to mod my 6, which should be enough to mod a 240 i think.
The car would need to be my DD, even in the winter, minus when there was snow.
The budget is what ever i can get for my 6, if i can sell it before zoom zoom boom.
Ive seen 240s on craigslist for 2-3k and know someone who can get me a good deal on some too.

Do any of you guys DD the 240?
What should I be looking for if/when i start to hunt for the perfect 240?
Most of them have high milage...is that ok for one of these cars?
What do you guys pay for insurance (if you wanna put that number out there)
What major things would need to be worked on if/when i got one, before it was DD'able?
What should I expect to pay for one in decent condition, or what have you paid for yours?
and the final question that will cause a war...s14 or s13...? I love the looks of the s14, but the s13s are beautiful when done right, which of course i would be doing. http://forums.nicoclub.com/images/smilies/biggrin2.gif
Or am I crazy to think that I can DD one of these things, especialy in a hilly place where it rains and snows all the time, and i should start looking at something else.

Oh and...Although I pay for the entirety of the car, my mom kinda has an image thing, i wanted to get a rusty 72 chevelle with a new motor and she wouldnt let me just cuz she didnt want it parked infront of her house. I need something that I can get that looks like a newer car from the get go, (s14 with good paint still).

And insurance is an issue too, im paying about 3k a year right now for a 2003 v6, the benefit of a s14 would be smaller engine, older car, cheaper insurance.

Its part of the way im gonna sell my parents lol

Thanks in advance guys,
hopefuly all goes well with my 6, but if not, i really hope i can get into the s14 world.

can I haz sidewayz?

[niteridaz503]

there's so many ways you can go with either an S13 or S14 that its merely impossible to quite settle on just an s14 or just an s13. Honestly it all depends on what you like the most so since you like the S14's go for it man. My first car was a Zenki S14 which is my favorite of the 2 but since then Ive owned 2 S13 coupes so that's where i stand with 240's i love my coupe and the weight transfers and everything to me is awesome but S14's are cool too ill eventually get back into one lol but for insurance i pay around 67 bucks a month or so, but hope this helps man because definitely 240's is where its at.

[Om1kron]

do not buy a 240sx (YOU PLAN ON MODIFYING AT ALL) as a daily. if you think a mazda 6 will give you problems, downgrading to a car 10 years older isn't going to help your case here.

[aznpoopy]

if "some problems" is enough to turn you off a mazda6, i don't see you keeping a 240sx for very long.

[maxxdsix]

The problems I'm having with the 6 is cuz the car was not built to last till high milage, I took the risk and boutht it with 107k on it, and 3 month later I had to replace the trans, trans still doesn't work properly. Now at 115k I don't know what's wrong with it yet, but the power steering pump failed months ago and I just drive without p/s now because its not necessary. The problem I'm assuming the 6 is having but crossing my fingers that its not is precat failure, very common in newer v6 engines with high miles. If the precats start to fail zoom zoom boom, you need a new motor, end of story.

Don't get me wrong I love my 6 and the fact that its unique because its not seen as a car to mod, but I can't keep dumping money into a car that will continue to give me problems. There's no easy motor swap for the 6 so its not like I can just do that if the precats are the problem.

[DALAZ_68]

do not buy a 240sx (YOU PLAN ON MODIFYING AT ALL) as a daily. if you think a mazda 6 will give you problems, downgrading to a car 10 years older isn't going to help your case here.


^...all fucken day

dont be stupid...only because it FWD...cmon, are you fucken serious...im not tryin to bash on you, btu this is the people have problems respecting the younger folk here...dumbass decisions like this...

fix the 6 man, its a newer, cleaner, and less abused, and has tons less mileage than probbaly any 240...

[ChiSleepyEyes]

Do any of you guys DD the 240?YES, every day for 2+ years, all around the streets of chicago.
What should I be looking for if/when i start to hunt for the perfect 240? Something with little to no rust and something without rear quarter damage, something manual preferred unless you want to modify the stock auto trans because i've heard that they are a POS. Even something already modified, i know guys like to build it not buy it built, but if someone already has new shit in the car, that's less you have to do
Most of them have high milage...is that ok for one of these cars? yes, the majority of the cars you will look at will have high mileage but with anywhere from a couple hundred to a couple grand (depending on what your willing to spend) you can easily get a motorswap (ka24, rb, ca, sr, ls...ect)
What do you guys pay for insurancehttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/2_bing.gif (http://zilvia.net/f/#) (if you wanna put that number out there) 346 every 6 months
What major things would need to be worked on if/when i got one, before it was DD'able? Nothing, car should be good to go out of box unless you get one with blown suspension, also check your bushings and tie rod ends, my 91 ends were nearly gone when i got mine and it only had 69k on it when i got it
What should I expect to pay for one in decent condition, or what have you paid for yours? One in decent condition can go anywhere from 1k to 3k normally, depends what you consider decent condition, when i see one in decent condition, its running( for the time being) and has a mint body(none or little surface rust, little to no dents, decent looking interior)
and the final question that will cause a war...s14 or s13...? I love the looks of the s14, but the s13s are beautiful (http://zilvia.net/f/#) when done right, which of course i would be doing. http://forums.nicoclub.com/images/smilies/biggrin2.gif
Or am I crazy to think that I can DD one of these things, especialy in a hilly place where it rains and snows all the time, and i should start looking at something else.
I'm preferential to the s13's, just what i've been driving for what seems like forever now, ive owned 1 s13 coupe and 1 hatch, def more a fan of the coupe, just seems sturdier. Now in saying that i have a buddy who is putting together a nice 95 s14 that is coming out very nice, so pretty much its what you like better.

Hope this helps a little
-Bill

[DALAZ_68]

Don't get me wrong I love my 6 and the fact that its unique because its not seen as a car to mod, but I can't keep dumping money into a car that will continue to give me problems. There's no easy motor swap for the 6 so its not like I can just do that if the precats are the problem.

and you think a 240 would be a step up...lol

[ChiSleepyEyes]

and you elders here should be bashing on him for wanting to get a 240, he didnt post for you to tell him that 240s are the wrong choice, he posted for answers to his questions, next time don't think to hard and just answer what he asked

[aznpoopy]

The problems I'm having with the 6 is cuz the car was not built to last till high milage, I took the risk and boutht it with 107k on it, and 3 month later I had to replace the trans, trans still doesn't work properly. Now at 115k I don't know what's wrong with it yet, but the power steering pump failed months ago and I just drive without p/s now because its not necessary. The problem I'm assuming the 6 is having but crossing my fingers that its not is precat failure, very common in newer v6 engines with high miles. If the precats start to fail zoom zoom boom, you need a new motor, end of story.

Don't get me wrong I love my 6 and the fact that its unique because its not seen as a car to mod, but I can't keep dumping money into a car that will continue to give me problems. There's no easy motor swap for the 6 so its not like I can just do that if the precats are the problem.

quite honestly dumping money into car that continues to give problems is pretty much what 80% of 240sx's are nowadays. just natural for a car that will most likely have 150k+ on it at this point.

on the upside 240sx's are easy to fix. rwd layout means easy work in engine bay. should be alot easier than finagling under the hood of a mazda6.

i can appreciate you wanting to get out of fwd stuff, but you may want to consider a newerish rwd car instead. maybe a s2k or something?

[DALAZ_68]

and you elders here should be bashing on him for wanting to get a 240, he didnt post for you to tell him that 240s are the wrong choice, he posted for answers to his questions, next time don't think to hard and just answer what he asked
i should huh...good thing i havent even started...

he didnt post it, but i let him know...he's to young to be making irational decision to get it...

fix the 6 is my point...not bashing, itll teach you something...he says he has money to blow on modding the 6...well then de mod the fucking thing, and use that money to fix ur ride...

i mean dont get me wrong, ive done the whole drive without power steering, even i had cash to fix it, and when i finally did, i realized i caused more problems, like a blown steering rack...

but hey, i can already see the new threads he's gonna make about the same common shit that breaks on these cars in a few weeks since he's so adament to get it...

[SinGarage]

I drive an S13 for DD with almost 400k miles on original motor but the original owner really took care of it. FYI-I also have 3 other cars/suv to drive just in case she breaks. DD a 240 (either S13 or S14) is definitely possible but I also work on my own cars. If you don't work on them or just a little, then be prepared to shell some cash to fix them plus downtime. I would recommend keeping the 6 for DD and get a 240 to modify. Insurance will be a little bit more but if the 240 breaks down, you still have your 6 to drive around in. Just my 2 cents.

[ronmcdon]

yeah I would just get a newer car to begin with.
preferably something fun enough where you don't need mod much at all.
Looking back, I wish I'd opted for an FD and kept it relatively stock.

I daily my 240 and it's been pretty reliable for the most part, even if a bit uncomfy.
The 240 is actually a pretty decent daily with light/minimal mods.
It isn't cheap to make it track worthy imo (which is really a matter of comfort).

I actually drove around in a rental Mazda 6 a few years ago and loved that car.
Suspension was remarkably set up & I loved the responsive steering.
tbh - I would be more comfortable dd & tracking a 6 over my existing S14.

OP you should look at some of the existing threads.
Most of your questions have been gone over a million times otherwise.

[DALAZ_68]

I drive an S13 for DD with almost 400k miles on original motor but the original owner really took care of it.


which is becoming rarer and rarer due to the craze...but w/e...

[omgRWDgoodness!]

Oh man, get ready to get responses out of both sides on this one. There's those who'll say that the 240SX is a great daily driver, and those who believe that it's best suited for track and/or project car duty (or just plain POS status). It all comes down to how thoroughly you look, how long you look for it, and what you look for when you find that potential buy. Sounds like 240s are going for decent prices in your area, but don't spend more than $~3.5K for a respectable S13, or $~5k for an S14 (Zenkis are usually cheaper). After that it's pretty routine procedure for buying any used car, make sure you can start it up without any problems and it idles well without any noises or hesitation, everything important works as it should like headlights and taillights, horn, etc. Inspect the car carefully top to bottom, especially for rust on the chassis and in the engine bay for anything suspicious-looking or broken. If you can, take it for a little spin to make sure it accelerates and brakes well and doesn't shake or anything. If everything is in order and you're satisfied with it, throw down an offer and make it yours.

A 240SX is an older car and it will give you some problems. Some simple preventative maintenance goes a long way in terms of reliability for it, though. An oil change, fuel filter, spark plugs & wires, distributor cap & rotor, air filter, possibly a coolant flush if you want to go the extra mile. The S-chassis is in my opinion one of the easiest cars to work on, and since you have a job to afford fixing and cleaning it up a little if necessary, you should be set. Mods are probably cheaper than any other car short of maybe Civics. I won't tell you what I pay for insurance since I'm required to have SR-22 for a while and I pay jacked-up rates, so you'll have to look to someone else for that. It shouldn't be too high if you go through your parents' policies, and just have them add you and your car.
All things said, I daily drive my '98 240SX that I paid $4.5k for and haven't looked back since. I've done all the maintenance and it runs very nice and reliably, despite it needing a transmission replacement when I first bought it, which I did myself. When it comes to S13 vs. S14, that's your prerogative. Decide what you truly like better or want more and go for it; or if it doesn't really matter, then whatever you can find a better deal on :D

I hope I helped answer as much as I could, but if you want to know anything else or have any other questions just PM me.

[jorge1190]

I've been DD'ing my S14 for a year and a half and I also autocross the car. The car has made numerous long trips and I would drive it anywhere. If you find one in good, preferably stock, condition then just keep up with maintenance and you will be fine. Also remember that if you abuse any car, its not going to last so keep that in mind when if you get it.

[h2v7]

I drive an S13 for DD with almost 400k miles on original motor but the original owner really took care of it. FYI-I also have 3 other cars/suv to drive just in case she breaks. DD a 240 (either S13 or S14) is definitely possible but I also work on my own cars. If you don't work on them or just a little, then be prepared to shell some cash to fix them plus downtime. I would recommend keeping the 6 for DD and get a 240 to modify. Insurance will be a little bit more but if the 240 breaks down, you still have your 6 to drive around in. Just my 2 cents.



dayyum and i thought my 290K was a lot of miles!

[franklin93zx]

240's can be just as reliable as a mazda 6. You just need to find one that was extremely well maintained.

i HIGHLY recommend buying an automatic, and just doing the conversion.

try to find one for sale by the original owner.

[SinGarage]

dayyum and i thought my 290K was a lot of miles!

I haven't seen one yet higher than mine but I'm pretty sure there is.


240's can be just as reliable as a mazda 6. You just need to find one that was extremely well maintained.

i HIGHLY recommend buying an automatic, and just doing the conversion.

try to find one for sale by the original owner.


Mine was well maintained, automatic, and original owner (older gentleman). As much as I would like to modify it, I want to keep it stock since it's soooo minty fresh. Besides, I have my S14 track slut for fun. :coold:

[n8RPS13]

240 LOVE from the younger crowd is great! I just hate to see them modified with parts from Pep boys or Autozone....if your going to buy a 240 especially an S13 coupe or hatch be prepared to do some research on those chassis, you dont want to go to a meet or a shop and have everyone flame your car because you made bad choices on your modifications. You dont always have to buy SUPER expensive parts either. Dont buy wheels before you get suspension, especially if yours is original and blown. I laugh at cars that have wheels and no suspension done. Youll be much happier with a car that rides good and possibly lowered than one that rides like shit with some 17's ;) Good luck!

[maxxdsix]

Do any of you guys DD the 240?YES, every day for 2+ years, all around the streets of chicago.
What should I be looking for if/when i start to hunt for the perfect 240? Something with little to no rust and something without rear quarter damage, something manual preferred unless you want to modify the stock auto trans because i've heard that they are a POS. Even something already modified, i know guys like to build it not buy it built, but if someone already has new shit in the car, that's less you have to do
Most of them have high milage...is that ok for one of these cars? yes, the majority of the cars you will look at will have high mileage but with anywhere from a couple hundred to a couple grand (depending on what your willing to spend) you can easily get a motorswap (ka24, rb, ca, sr, ls...ect)
What do you guys pay for insurancehttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/2_bing.gif (http://zilvia.net/f/#) (if you wanna put that number out there) 346 every 6 months
What major things would need to be worked on if/when i got one, before it was DD'able? Nothing, car should be good to go out of box unless you get one with blown suspension, also check your bushings and tie rod ends, my 91 ends were nearly gone when i got mine and it only had 69k on it when i got it
What should I expect to pay for one in decent condition, or what have you paid for yours? One in decent condition can go anywhere from 1k to 3k normally, depends what you consider decent condition, when i see one in decent condition, its running( for the time being) and has a mint body(none or little surface rust, little to no dents, decent looking interior)
and the final question that will cause a war...s14 or s13...? I love the looks of the s14, but the s13s are beautiful (http://zilvia.net/f/#) when done right, which of course i would be doing. http://forums.nicoclub.com/images/smilies/biggrin2.gif
Or am I crazy to think that I can DD one of these things, especialy in a hilly place where it rains and snows all the time, and i should start looking at something else.
I'm preferential to the s13's, just what i've been driving for what seems like forever now, ive owned 1 s13 coupe and 1 hatch, def more a fan of the coupe, just seems sturdier. Now in saying that i have a buddy who is putting together a nice 95 s14 that is coming out very nice, so pretty much its what you like better.

Hope this helps a little
-Bill


THANK YOU! lol

[maxxdsix]

And at this point, the 6 will prob need:
a new motor=3k
new trans or rebuild: 2k

so thats another 5k gone, in a car i paid 7 for.

Does the 6 compare to a 240? no.

A s2k is way out of the budget, and no way would i get insured with that thing.

Its not just that im trying to get out of a fwd car, its been a problem since day 1. Do i think a s14 will get rid of all the car issues? not at all, i know cars break, its what they do best. But an s14 has more parts available, easier to work on, cheaper to work on, etc. etc. compared to the 6.

[direktdrive]

upping your game with an s14? nice. bahaha.

I own an S14 modded for the track, but it's still driveable on the street...legality is a question that still wanders my mind...BUT dailying a modded S14 isn't bad. I still make it up and down ramps with no probs and though the chassis is stiff, it's a bearable drive.

imo, take your time and don't make any decision on impulse. If you're really set on buying a 240, make sure you're ready for the maintenance. These cars are old, I mean we're already in 2010 and I'll be surprised to find an S14 with decent mileage.

Lastly, mod it properly. Don't just throw random mods on you 240 and then regret it later. Get the right parts and get it done right. Plus as n8RPS13 said, it helps ease off the hater crowd.

[wh0aitznic0]

You're 17...

Chances are, you'll build a car loaded with Megan/ISIS/Ebay.

[Gnnr]

Now im not really sure what made me start to get into these again

If you don't even know why get one...

The 240 will give me more power then the 6

lol, not a stock KA.

its also not fwd *yuck*.

FWD is perfectly fine for your DD driving needs. Don't just bash FWD for the sake of bashing FWD.

which should be enough to mod a 240 i think.

How much money do you have? A bunch of ghetto ebay modifications don't count. :keke:

The car would need to be my DD, even in the winter, minus when there was snow.

Considering your finances its best to have a DD that you don't want to mod.

What should I be looking for if/when i start to hunt for the perfect 240?

One that isn't beat to shit and one that isn't modded and unmolested. Go find and old lady that drove it around and is the original owner.

Most of them have high milage...is that ok for one of these cars?

High mileage is OK for any car that was not abused and maintained properly.

What do you guys pay for insurance (if you wanna put that number out there)

The biggest factor for insurance for you is going to be your age, where you live, coverage, driving history...things like that.

What major things would need to be worked on if/when i got one, before it was DD'able?

This is where a mechanic would come into play when you go check out the car. Its not rocket science, these cars where targeted at middle aged secretaries contrary to what you might believe.

What should I expect to pay for one in decent condition, or what have you paid for yours?

Decent condition, I wouldn't pay more than $3K. Mint around $5K (95-96) or $7K (97-98). I mean, that is if you're buying from the jaded 240 community. Because in reality to the KBB and the rest of the real world these cars aren't worth more thank $3K at most. The "newest" 240sx is 13 years old.

Or am I crazy to think that I can DD one of these things, especialy in a hilly place where it rains and snows all the time, and i should start looking at something else.

Its not that its crazy. It just not sensible when compared to buying a newer vehicle when your need is a DD.

Oh and...Although I pay for the entirety of the car, my mom kinda has an image thing, i wanted to get a rusty 72 chevelle with a new motor and she wouldnt let me just cuz she didnt want it parked infront of her house. I need something that I can get that looks like a newer car from the get go, (s14 with good paint still).

I wouldn't mind having a nicely painted Chevelle parked in front of the house. Good luck finding a 240 with good paint.

And insurance is an issue too, im paying about 3k a year right now for a 2003 v6, the benefit of a s14 would be smaller engine, older car, cheaper insurance.

Its not going to change much for you. Hell, it might even go up for you depending on if you get discounts for the safety features of the newer vehicles. Depends on your carrier.

[xpertsnowcarver]

Don't buy a 240 to daily. Spend you're money on fixing your Mazda6 and daily that. I doubt you already need a new engine and tranny.

[franklin93zx]

Keep your stock KA untill you have at least 3.5k in extra savings as well.

stock KA is perfectly fine. Only thing you should worry about engine wise it maintenance.

[thefro526]

Dude, you're on TST?

You have a build thread there?

[maxxdsix]

If you don't even know why get one...
I always loved the 240, but i just for some reason started to get back into 240s while thinking about the issues with my 6, and i think the 6 is mad at me for looking into other cars lol.


lol, not a stock KA.



FWD is perfectly fine for your DD driving needs. Don't just bash FWD for the sake of bashing FWD.
Not bashing for the sake of it lol, but in a fwd car thats atx, which is what my 6 is, after you get the trans replaced, it doesnt really drive the same. and the engine is a PITA to work on tiny engine bay lol.


How much money do you have? A bunch of ghetto ebay modifications don't count. :keke:
NO GHETTO EBAY MODS! lol not a chance in hell. I work my ass off, 4-5 days a week in a resturant, I pay for the ins, and paid for the car. When i do something I do it right. So money isnt the issue, if i cant get something i want, i will wait.


Considering your finances its best to have a DD that you don't want to mod.
See above


One that isn't beat to shit and one that isn't modded and unmolested. Go find and old lady that drove it around and is the original owner.
That might take some digging, but im sure il be able to find one if i look hard enough


High mileage is OK for any car that was not abused and maintained properly.
except mine lol


The biggest factor for insurance for you is going to be your age, where you live, coverage, driving history...things like that.
Actually my ins went up 400$ a year just cuz i got the v6 over the i4 for the 6.


This is where a mechanic would come into play when you go check out the car. Its not rocket science, these cars where targeted at middle aged secretaries contrary to what you might believe.
Thats hard to belive, but this comes from someone who drives a "family sedan" lol.


Decent condition, I wouldn't pay more than $3K. Mint around $5K (95-96) or $7K (97-98). I mean, that is if you're buying from the jaded 240 community. Because in reality to the KBB and the rest of the real world these cars aren't worth more thank $3K at most. The "newest" 240sx is 13 years old.

Thanks, price targets are nice to know.

Its not that its crazy. It just not sensible when compared to buying a newer vehicle when your need is a DD.
Im tired of new cars, being that ive spend 2k just to keep the car running already, turning my 7k purchase into a 9k problem, with more problems on the way. I understand that im gonna have to drop money into fixing a 240, but im used to putting money into a car to make it work. It would just be easier and cheaper for me to fix an issue with a 240 then my 6, because of the avalibility of wrecked 240s and parts, and friends i know that have them too. The 6 parts cost an arm and a leg at the best price i can get from friends at mazmart, and their even more of a pita to put in or anything else.


I wouldn't mind having a nicely painted Chevelle parked in front of the house. Good luck finding a 240 with good paint.
yea...me either. Good paint isnt the right word, my fault. Not an "eyesore" is what i was told lol My goal with the chevelle was a shitty boddy but was mechanicly sound, so i could do all the body work cuz i worked in a restoration shop a few summers ago, so i knew my way around the exterior work.



Its not going to change much for you. Hell, it might even go up for you depending on if you get discounts for the safety features of the newer vehicles. Depends on your carrier.
Hopefuly it doesnt go up, I have eire but im prob gonna change.



And for issues that im having with the 6...The problems I'm having with the 6 is cuz the car was not built to last till high milage, I took the risk and boutht it with 107k on it, and 3 month later I had to replace the trans, trans still doesn't work properly. Now at 115k I don't know what's wrong with it yet, but the power steering pump failed months ago and I just drive without p/s now because its not necessary. The problem I'm assuming the 6 is having but crossing my fingers that its not is precat failure, very common in newer v6 engines with high miles. If the precats start to fail zoom zoom boom, you need a new motor, end of story.

Don't get me wrong I love my 6 and the fact that its unique because its not seen as a car to mod, but I can't keep dumping money into a car that will continue to give me problems. There's no easy motor swap for the 6 so its not like I can just do that if the precats are the problem.


My comments to the post are in red.

[maxxdsix]

yup i have a build thread over there, i havent updated it in awhile though, decent amount of new stuff since then... I have the same name on TST so just look at my started threads and it should be right there, i dont have many started threads on TST

[fishboi]

Link to your build thread plz.

[90white240]

Yes a link would be nice.

[maxxdsix]

Just updated the pics, no list of anything cuz i have finals in 5 hrs, so ive got to get some sleep lol.

http://www.tristatetuners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=91808&page=2

not sure if you guys will all be able to look at the thread if not TST members...

[DDB240sx]

I daily drive a 93 hatchback with somewhere around 77k on the chasis and a low mileage SR swap, I've been DD'ing it for about almost 2 years and this would be my 4th s13 240. Thing is, when it's running great it's a great car. It puts a smile on my face when I get on it. But there are downfalls to have a 20 y/o car. The best advice I could give is what a friend of mine who builds them told me: Anticipate everything breaking. Which is true. Unless you find an amazing deal on one that's had half the stuff on it already overhauled. Every 240 I bought had almost all of the suspension stuff in need of work because it'd never been replaced and the previous drivers were quite rough with it. Also, depending on the area you live in your car might catch the attention of the local cops depending on how you drive. I know my insurance has gone up cause of it. Also, are you planning on leaving the stock motor in it or swapping it? Do you plan on doing most of the work yourself? A reasonably stock SR swap still makes for a hell of DD. Now, don't let me detour you from buying one if it's the car that you really want. I say more power to you if you get one. Just know that unless you find a mint condition s14 that's been garaged and driven by old people, the car could nickle and dime you into the poor house.

[maxxdsix]

I daily drive a 93 hatchback with somewhere around 77k on the chasis and a low mileage SR swap, I've been DD'ing it for about almost 2 years and this would be my 4th s13 240. Thing is, when it's running great it's a great car. It puts a smile on my face when I get on it. But there are downfalls to have a 20 y/o car. The best advice I could give is what a friend of mine who builds them told me: Anticipate everything breaking. Which is true. Unless you find an amazing deal on one that's had half the stuff on it already overhauled. Every 240 I bought had almost all of the suspension stuff in need of work because it'd never been replaced and the previous drivers were quite rough with it. Also, depending on the area you live in your car might catch the attention of the local cops depending on how you drive. I know my insurance has gone up cause of it. Also, are you planning on leaving the stock motor in it or swapping it? Do you plan on doing most of the work yourself? A reasonably stock SR swap still makes for a hell of DD. Now, don't let me detour you from buying one if it's the car that you really want. I say more power to you if you get one. Just know that unless you find a mint condition s14 that's been garaged and driven by old people, the car could nickle and dime you into the poor house.
Its kinda a thing of mine to not get a car thats already modded, but in this case, if i can find one wit a SR swap already, and maybe some suspention work then id consider making an exception if i know itl be better then another option.

The goal if i get one is gonna be to find a s14 driven by some old woman, but we'll see about that one.

Thanks for the advice.