ground control

[my240likenoother]

well i finaly got to take the car out on the new suspention and wheels the suspention is nice and tight but a real comfotable ride. I havent been able to realy push it and test it out yet cause i havent driven the car for about 3 months. But its a real comfotable ride i have the AGX shocks set at 4 in the rear and 2 in the front.
The front coilovers are all the way down and i have a 1" gap from the top of the tire to the wheel well
and in the rear i have the coilover all the way up and there is a 1 1/2" gap looks real nice
I will be able to have pix up tomorrow once i get up and get them to DSC


ooh ya i sould realy wash it to <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>
and caly bar
and ploshish
and wax

(Edited by my240likenoother at 12:32 am on Feb. 24, 2002)

[DSC]

sounds awsome man, I'll put them up as soon as you send them to me. Heh, you should get good use out of those white bars (or whatever they are) upfront now <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
What are you doing for front and rear camber?

[DuffMan]

What spring rates did you get?

[my240likenoother]

i dont see much of a camber in the front and i have never had a prob with it before i have only had probs with the rear camber and i will not slot the controler amr till i know that how i realy worksand im going out now to take pic and see what the spring rate is
so BRB

[my240likenoother]

pix r on there way and the spring rate it
180.64.44
noit like i know what that means but there they r

[DSC]

Nice! What brakes are those?
http://www.steamymirror.com/dsc240sx/my240likenoother/gcfront.jpg
http://www.steamymirror.com/dsc240sx/my240likenoother/gcside.jpg

[transient]

And where did you get that antenna? That's sweet and I need a new one <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[LanceS13]

cool...you got rid of the graphics.
nice car....what kinda rims are those?

[Takumi]

####! &nbsp;Nice Enkei RSF's. &nbsp;My friend got those on his Prelude. &nbsp;Nice car man, looks a lot better without those graphics, but that's just me. &nbsp;All you need are some side skirts and a rear skirt and you're set! &nbsp;I dig the smoked lenses, they fit the car really well.

[DSC]

Oh and here a pic of his shiny new water heater





http://www.steamymirror.com/dsc240sx/my240likenoother/rims.jpg
<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[my240likenoother]

thanks guys i dont know if im going to do graphic this year or not right now im undecided
i got the antenna at radio shack
and the brakes r brembo stock size
i canty beleave that i put that pix up look how dirty that front bumper is LOL

that watter heater kicks ass:)

[HippoSleek]

#### - your car is looking nice!! &nbsp;Like the look w/ the black roof and w/o the graphics. &nbsp;Very clean!

I would guess those are the rear springs you gave the rate for? &nbsp;Should mean 180lbs/in is the rate - the other two numbers are for lenth and diameter (but I forget which is which). &nbsp;I take it you got the standard length/rate?

[my240likenoother]

the spring is realy short
and yay that was the rear rate i cant realy see the front unless i jack it up and it is a pain in that ass

but i have a question for the peeps that have &nbsp;agx ajustabls
do they bounce/ bottem out <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>
my rear end is kinda bouncy and ther shock is a little sqeaking noise?? :confused:
what is every1 running for shocks???

thanks
Ian--

[dave2u]

nice car mate <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
gorgeous front

[davidg410]

how do u like the ride compared to springs? Im hopin to own a 240 within the next few months and i want to work suspension probably first. I was weighin the options of springs vs the ground controls. I've heard that most springs only come with like a 1.3&quot; drop or somethin, but i like less gap then that. So how u like the ground controls and where u get em?

[HippoSleek]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from my240likenoother on 5:45 pm on Feb. 25, 2002
the spring is realy short
and yay that was the rear rate i cant realy see the front unless i jack it up and it is a pain in that ass

but i have a question for the peeps that have agx ajustabls
do they bounce/ bottem out <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>
my rear end is kinda bouncy and ther shock is a little sqeaking noise?? :confused:
what is every1 running for shocks???

thanks
Ian--
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1. &nbsp;Yeah - GC/Eibach springs are waaay shorter than factory. &nbsp;They should be b/n 7 and 9 inches, depending on what they sent you. &nbsp;I'd guess, from other GC kits, that the fronts would be about 210 lbs/in. &nbsp;Actually, I heard they are now making them for s14's so I may be joining you soon *crosses fingers*
2. &nbsp;As for the shocks - I had AGX's on my last car and they were awsome. &nbsp;Same body as GAB's, but only slightly different valving. &nbsp;You should have penty of shock for that spring (i.e., it shouldn't blow - I ran AGXs w/ 380/450 rates on a Civic w/ no problems). &nbsp;Bottoming, however, can be a problem w/ any shock if you get carried away lowering the car. &nbsp;From the sounds of it, you are in the safe range. &nbsp;Best way to tell is to look at how much shock rod is exposed when the car is on the ground. &nbsp;YOu need at least 1.25&quot; for any decent ride quality - Any lower and you are almost on the bump stops (there's only about 2.5 inches of travel stock unless you get short stroke shocks). &nbsp;The lower you go, the more likely you are to bottom.
3. &nbsp;Never heard of AGX's squeaking - might be a bushing/mount issue. &nbsp;You may try lowering the shock setting to take out the bounce.

[S13Grl]

Good job getting rid of the flames. I love the front. When are you getting the rest?

[mrfly]

Looks great! What spoiler is that?

[DuffMan]

When I called GC, they said the lowest spring rate they could supply with S13 is 350lbs/in, cause the the springs are so short. Also they go by 25s so i dont think 180 is the spring rate.

[HippoSleek]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from DuffMan on 11:30 am on Feb. 26, 2002
When I called GC, they said the lowest spring rate they could supply with S13 is 350lbs/in, cause the the springs are so short. Also they go by 25s so i dont think 180 is the spring rate.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Good catch. &nbsp;It begs the question though of F or R? &nbsp;The R springs are no different from those by other manufacturers (similar length &amp; diameter), the fronts are another story. &nbsp;Usually the Eibach numbers are rate.dia.length - but perhaps due to the unique nature here, they are different. &nbsp;I DO know, however, that there are rates beyond those in 25's b/c I used to have 380s in my Civic (custom rate) (alledgedly, these were &quot;semi-progressive&quot; in that only the last few coils were spun to 380 and the rest were 375).

[DuffMan]

Ah, so thats what they mean by &quot;semi-progressive&quot;

[Drifting Ricer]

So when are you going to put a nice FMIC/Turbo on that car? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

[my240likenoother]

as i said before i have the front slamed all the way down and the rear is all the way up and im only having probs in the rear with the squeaking and its alittle bouncy im going to give GC a call tomorrow and see what the deal is i want to returne them but i want to see if there is a local dealer of AGX that could exchange them so im not w/o them for 3 weeks (shipping)
i will get the rest of the body kit mabye this summer
and i will be seeing heavythrottel.com &nbsp;in dec. for the sr20det man i can not wait :biggrin:

[drift freaq]

I talked to Ground Control today. Your spring rates are most likely 450 front 250 rear thats what the usually sell 240sx owners. Its what my friend Gary has on his 95 track car.
Anyways I asked them about the squeaking and they said you should call them.
I am thinking about going that way down the road. for now I am getting AGX's and running HKS springs after my Turbo install I will do the coilover part.

[silvia240]

you know..i might be crazy... but my240likenoother's &nbsp;car looks like an older NSX.... you know... like the 91's. &nbsp;
red with the black top....

[HippoSleek]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from drift freaq on 10:17 pm on Feb. 26, 2002
I talked to Ground Control today. Your spring rates are most likely 450 front 250 rear thats what the usually sell 240sx owners. Its what my friend Gary has on his 95 track car.
Anyways I asked them about the squeaking and they said you should call them.
I am thinking about going that way down the road. for now I am getting AGX's and running HKS springs after my Turbo install I will do the coilover part.
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What brand is your buddy running w/ those rates. &nbsp;I heard that GC was going to make an s14 kit - but haven't heard it's out yet? &nbsp;Are they GC's?

I also would recommend to anyone getting GC springs to custom order their rates. &nbsp;If you look on the installs page you will notice that all of those springs follow the &quot;80% rule.&quot; &nbsp;This means that the higher rates should be at least 80% of the lower. &nbsp;This seems only more true on a car w/ 52/48 weight distribution. &nbsp;IMHO, those rear rates are too soft (actually, the fronts are probably too heavy). &nbsp;For me, this topic is making more questions than answers... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

[thewholefnshow]

I thought gc had an s14 kit, it was just race only, with like 700's in front and 600's in back or something... any one know...

[drift freaq]

Gary has Ground Controls on his S14 track car sporting a RB25 hehehe. He is using Koni's because there are no AGX's for S14's
and yes the two most cool things about Ground Control are they are right here in Cali so service is not an issue should an insert or strut fail. also the other part is the adjustable spring rates which pretty much means you can custom tune your suspension completely. that in my book pretty much blows away any other coil overs on the market. I know of a guy at Ground control that is getting Tokico HTS's for his AE86 and putting on the Ground control setup on them. that should be a pretty dope ass setup.

[my240likenoother]

yup CG must of done something right every one i know has CG <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>