RB25 steveshadows,gsxrjjordan

[Silviaoneday]

Sup guys,

I wanted to show my build and also send a thanks to the guys who have helped me. Steve (steveshadows) where do I start? This man child got my car back in the game. I had my car at the previous builders for over 7 months only to find out the tuner blew the motor. From reading on the forum about tuners his name came up. I have nothing but great things to say about him, I strongly encourage you guys to tune with him. I've had nothing but bad luck with my car but that did not stop Steve. He helped me threw my build and tuned my car last Satuday. The tuning him and Mike Kondo do is beyond belief. Steve was building a basemap and I went from 305whp to 394 whp literally in 3 seconds!!! There is so much more this motor has. I was extremely worried about driving my car home but he gauranteed that I would not have a problem. Sure enough, 90+ miles later, NONE! The car drove like a dream. Steves def a great guy and he is def on his way to dominate the tuning world. Jeff Jordan (GSXRJJordan) without this guy my car would not even be on the road. He's extremely knowledgable!! I had him re-wire what the previous shop hacked up. He knows his way around these cars like its the back of his hand. He had my wiring fixed within a matter of minutes. I can go to this guy with any question and he will always have an answer. He's helping me with my oil cooler setup, catch can setup, wiring. He looked at my previous engine that was blown and told me what to change, gave me suggestions and here Iam today, the car is running great and I'm more excited than ever. Thanks you guys!! Wish you the best and I'm looking forward to working with you guy's again. This is def what talent is, they are gonna go a long ways in life! On with the car and build:

Another thanks to:

Ricky at RawBrokerage
Reggie from OSR

Series 2 RB25
ARP Head studs
Apexi Head Gasket
N1 Oil Pump
Greddy 720cc Injectors
Walrbo 255 fuel pump
Aeromotive Fuel Regulator
Top Feed Fuel Rail
Greddy IM
Q45 TB
LoveFab EM
Innovative Turbo
HKS BOV
Tial 44mm WG
Haltech PS1000

I made 394 whp at 16psi @ 6500-6800 RPM. Stock head, stock bottom end, guys the turbo I have is extremely laggy its almost equivalent to a GT-45 believe it or not. 16psi is not in its efficeny range, 20psi will DEF give me 500whp. Not bad for me rebuilding this engine from the ground up.

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Some vids, excuse the low quality

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[Om1kron]

glad to hear you finally got this thing running again.

[GSXRJJordan]

Thanks for the props Johnny, glad you're happy with it (finally)!

Watching those dyno vids, you can tell the turbo's not spooling until way late lol, that thing's going to be a monster!

[Silviaoneday]

glad to hear you finally got this thing running again.

Thanks Mr Wayne!

Thanks for the props Johnny, glad you're happy with it (finally)!

Watching those dyno vids, you can tell the turbo's not spooling until way late lol, that thing's going to be a monster!

Of course your used to that weinery V8 lol power at all rpms haha.

[stockbee]

congrats on the setup man.

I've got an SR S14 in my car currently, and a buddy of mine has a RB25 like yours.

Simply just hearing the sound of an RB at WOT makes me want to sell my motor and go RB from the start. It'd be worth it to me to have that sound alone. haha

Good luck with it in the future.

[Team DET]

congrats on the setup man.
Simply just hearing the sound of an RB at WOT makes me want to sell my motor and go RB from the start. same here........

[Silviaoneday]

Thanks you guys, I will be updating with way better videos of me cruising the streets so you can hear it come on to boost. If you guys need help hit up Steve or Jeff, best decision I ever made!

[Coolwhip]

+1 for the props... :)

The setup looks sick! Happy to hear her growl!

[mrflip69]

Post your dyno!

[JDM Sil4ty]

good to hear, good lookin engine bay! .. rb is where its at ladies ..

[Silviaoneday]

Heres some more pix and the dyno results. I RAN OUT OF GAS with the 394 dyno, that explains the weird graph lol. Yea yea I know.. Completely out of gas. Remember if I was on a dyno jet I would make over 430 whp!!!

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[510-SR20DET]

I might have to kidnap steveshadows to norcal. LOL...damn it i need to tune my car.

[killer240]

so wen u gona get another dyno 20psi 500hp?

[mrflip69]

Damn, steep. Looks like a Supra dyno! I'm surprised you didn't go with a Holset. Any reason you went with that particular turbo? Must feel like a kick in the pants when that hits :P

Also, are those runs with variable cam timing? Seems like you should have a little more mid-range than that.

Any more info on your previous setup and what blew? Build thread? Would love to see more pics of your setup.

[Silviaoneday]

so wen u gona get another dyno 20psi 500hp?

Jeff (gsxrjjordan) is making a custom oil cooler&catch can setup for me should be done within a few days. I will be tuning on race gas and 20psi prolly within a month. We could have tuned that night but I was there all day and we were beat!! 20psi and race gas will be awesome.

Damn, steep. Looks like a Supra dyno! I'm surprised you didn't go with a Holset. Any reason you went with that particular turbo? Must feel like a kick in the pants when that hits :P

Also, are those runs with variable cam timing? Seems like you should have a little more mid-range than that.


Any more info on your previous setup and what blew? Build thread? Would love to see more pics of your setup.

I went with this turbo because I knew I would be rebuilding the motor sometime and shooting for 600-700whp. The turbo is pretty much over kill but I got a really good deal on it. You cant beat a dual ball bearing turbo like this for the price I got it for. Yea it def hits HARD when it does. Everyone always talks about lag but once you hit boost and go through the gears the powers constantly there!! I will upload a lot of the pix when I have a chance I'm trying to get some vids for you guys within a few days. Im getting my car ready for the streets of willow, my cousin and dad are going in their FD's. Thanks for all the comments you guys!! MORE TO COME SOON 500WHP AND RACE GAS IN A FEW WEEKS!!

[Om1kron]

I guess it's not so bad if you drive this on the streets with the power curve you have. 200hp around 5500rpm and then a rapid climb to almost 200 more hp in 2000 more rpm could be frightening lol.

I couldn't imagine how your tires shall fair once it's dialed in the way you want it.

[Silviaoneday]

I guess it's not so bad if you drive this on the streets with the power curve you have. 200hp around 5500rpm and then a rapid climb to almost 200 more hp in 2000 more rpm could be frightening lol.

I couldn't imagine how your tires shall fair once it's dialed in the way you want it.


HAHA Wayne, yea there's def more fine tuning that needs to be done but I'm totally happy with the way it is now. I need to get a wide band and a REAL tach. I will be making a custom tach setup soon Ill get some pix of that. Going sideways doesn't count as hooking? lol. Hows your car Wayne? Oh yea I'm running stock 195 se wheels HAHAHA, SLEEPER

[efrain240sx]

nice numbers, and a very extremely sexy looking engine :drool:. If you don't mind me asking, where did you get your Q45 TB adapter?

[Silviaoneday]

nice numbers, and a very extremely sexy looking engine :drool:. If you don't mind me asking, where did you get your Q45 TB adapter?

Thanks! The Greddy, ISIS etc.. already come like that so you can bolt up a larger TB.

[efrain240sx]

oh i thought you had a flange welded on. Cool thanks for the reply

[GSXRJJordan]

Johnny why'd you stop the runs at 6400rpm? RB25 head should be good to 7000 at least, if not 7500. With a turbo like that you need all the revs you can get.

[Hxc_Nismo]

nice, but the hotside seems a bit too big for your setup i would recommend a smaller hotside, cause its pretty laggy. im running a precision pt6765 billet wheel ball bearing turbo with a 1.0 divided hotside on a full race response manifold on my rb26

[Silviaoneday]

Johnny why'd you stop the runs at 6400rpm? RB25 head should be good to 7000 at least, if not 7500. With a turbo like that you need all the revs you can get.

Hey hey lol gotta leave room for improvement for the 500 mark lol. The graph is actually off a few hundred rpm. I dont think we went over 6800 tho. I wasnt to sure about going over 7000-7500 on that valvetrain considering it was the first time running it that hard. I'm not a tuner by no means but reving another 1000rpm I should see 20whp difference with that setup.

[Silviaoneday]

nice, but the hotside seems a bit too big for your setup i would recommend a smaller hotside, cause its pretty laggy. im running a precision pt6765 billet wheel ball bearing turbo with a 1.0 divided hotside on a full race response manifold on my rb26


Considering my turbo is almost a GT-45 I would agree its more laggy than your pt67 lol. The turbo is not in its effiency range at that psi. If I was around 25psi it would show the same on a dyno graph as a gt35 but I would make a lot more power if that makes sense. If I had to do it over again a gt35r would be all I need, but I'm shooting for high HP.

[GSXRJJordan]

nice, but the hotside seems a bit too big for your setup i would recommend a smaller hotside, cause its pretty laggy. im running a precision pt6765 billet wheel ball bearing turbo with a 1.0 divided hotside on a full race response manifold on my rb26

That's one of my favorite setups! Is that the 7-blade comp wheel or the 6-blade? I think one's a 67mm and the others 68mm... anyway I was spec'n out a 7-blade cold side with the same hot side you've got against Turbonetics' smaller Hurricane series turbos for my RB25 before I crashed my S14.

Hey hey lol gotta leave room for improvement for the 500 mark lol. The graph is actually off a few hundred rpm. I dont think we went over 6800 tho. I wasnt to sure about going over 7000-7500 on that valvetrain considering it was the first time running it that hard. I'm not a tuner by no means but reving another 1000rpm I should see 20whp difference with that setup.

It's not an increase in peak horsepower I'd be looking for, just more area under the curve! Right now you're making less average torque than stock I bet. I hope you're able to run it out into its efficiency range and pick up another 100ft lbs without blowing up the block :)

[Silviaoneday]

LOL come on Jeff dont jinx me man haha. That is the word I def do not want to hear right now. If it does happen I'll just go V8 like you! Get your harness skills ready haha.

[Hxc_Nismo]

That's one of my favorite setups! Is that the 7-blade comp wheel or the 6-blade? I think one's a 67mm and the others 68mm... anyway I was spec'n out a 7-blade cold side with the same hot side you've got against Turbonetics' smaller Hurricane series turbos for my RB25 before I crashed my S14.


its the 6 blade one

[Silviaoneday]

its the 6 blade one

How much whp you making and what psi?

[Hxc_Nismo]

i should be put down 800+rwhp on race gas, the engine is still at the machine shop, i do have a build thread on Nissan Forum | Infiniti Forum, a community of enthusiasts (http://www.nicoclub.com) in the rb section. also if your in the riverside county area we can meet up cause i just moved out here from missouri and i only have 2 rb s chassis buddies out here so far.

[Hxc_Nismo]

also ricky at rawbrokerage is a good friend of mine also, he's awsome

[GSXRJJordan]

LOL come on Jeff dont jinx me man haha. That is the word I def do not want to hear right now. If it does happen I'll just go V8 like you! Get your harness skills ready haha.

No jinx! I really do hope you can ring it out, I want you to flog this bitch for at least a year before you upgrade.

its the 6 blade one

6 blade is higher boost, makes sense for your hp target. I was just going for 500 on pump gas and more on E85. Excellent setup you've got there.

[Hxc_Nismo]

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6 blade is higher boost, makes sense for your hp target. I was just going for 500 on pump gas and more on E85. Excellent setup you've got there.

thanks for the comment

[steve shadows]

Johnny why'd you stop the runs at 6400rpm? RB25 head should be good to 7000 at least, if not 7500. With a turbo like that you need all the revs you can get.

We hit around 7200-7500 TRUE RPMS on the pulls...
But we had to do the gear match synch on the dyno to read RPMs - We couldnt get a good signal off the motor to pull tacho signal for the dyno without the massive vibration and noise at higher rpm skewing the signal all over the place.
So the tach readout on the dyno is actually off by around -400 RPMS, if we had a true RPM signal the car would have actually read out MORE HP!!!! because of torque over time.

So yeah...lots left...I'm making the car a personal project of mine too. Want to see if we can hit a record with stock RB25 motor on this Dyno.

If he was on a Dynojet with a good tach readout I have no doubts this car would be pushing around 450 whp or so as she stands right now. Pretty impressive.

Also on the lower torque on the low end. There is a lot left in the car in tractive effort mode. Thing is we were on the dyno for almost 6 hours and at a discounted rate. This was causing some grumblings and we were all pooped. With some more time fine tuning the actual map the car should make more power and torque all across the power band. So think of this readout as a "almost base line run" hahahaha-

[OBEEWON]

I've got an SR S14 in my car currently, and a buddy of mine has a RB25 like yours.

Simply just hearing the sound of an RB at WOT makes me want to sell my motor and go RB from the start. It'd be worth it to me to have that sound alone...

Best move I've ever made despite the cost...

[Silviaoneday]

We hit around 7200-7500 TRUE RPMS on the pulls...
But we had to do the gear match synch on the dyno to read RPMs - We couldnt get a good signal off the motor to pull tacho signal for the dyno without the massive vibration and noise at higher rpm skewing the signal all over the place.
So the tach readout on the dyno is actually off by around -400 RPMS, if we had a true RPM signal the car would have actually read out MORE HP!!!! because of torque over time.

So yeah...lots left...I'm making the car a personal project of mine too. Want to see if we can hit a record with stock RB25 motor on this Dyno.

If he was on a Dynojet with a good tach readout I have no doubts this car would be pushing around 450 whp or so as she stands right now. Pretty impressive.

Also on the lower torque on the low end. There is a lot left in the car in tractive effort mode. Thing is we were on the dyno for almost 6 hours and at a discounted rate. This was causing some grumblings and we were all pooped. With some more time fine tuning the actual map the car should make more power and torque all across the power band. So think of this readout as a "almost base line run" hahahaha-

THANKS STEVE!! This clears a lot of things up.

Best move I've ever made despite the cost...

Yea your telling me, I went from a s14 sr as well. RB's are money pits haha. I wouldn't mind having a sr with a gt30 tho...

[Om1kron]

Best move I've ever made despite the cost...

Yeah I've already done a decen't amount of crap to the sr, if I upgrade the engine again, it's going to be an american v8. Mainly because turbo's have gotten on my last nerve.

The Car is ok Johnny, I am currently having the front bumper fixed as I biffed it over at Jeff's. My sr runs like wimpy dick in a free whore house. It runs smooth but there is like 0 power. I think the rings are on the way out it shoots black smoke if I run it hard and it hit's 10 degree's over operating temp (210 degree's)

It kind of depresses me but I am finding little things to fix constantly which makes it really hard to focus on shit I would like to buy. Like new oem headlights, or my masa hood.

[Silviaoneday]

My sr runs like wimpy dick in a free whore house. It runs smooth but there is like 0 power.


HAHA wow, shits great. Yea v8 is kinda where Ill be going with the next project car. Cant beat reliable 350-400 whp on pump gas all day long!!!

[OBEEWON]

... I upgrade the engine again, it's going to be an american v8. Mainly because turbo's have gotten on my last nerve.

It kind of depresses me but I am finding little things to fix constantly which makes it really hard to focus...

Tell me about it. I added how much money I spent on my last SR and it was depressing. The power band was laughable and the car was undriftable and only good on the highway. Not to mention how often something simply stupid broke or went bad.

RB25 and all of a sudden I don't suck anymore...

I've talked to a few LSX guys and heard complaints about reliability and cost. UZ or VH seem to be alot more reliable for some reason.

[Silviaoneday]

I've talked to a few LSX guys and heard complaints about reliability and cost. UZ or VH seem to be alot more reliable for some reason.

Thats surprising, I would have figured it would be a little more reliable then that. I like how this LS fits in the S-Chassis, the other swaps seem to take up more room IMO. What do you have done to your rb?

[OBEEWON]

All I have is a Z MAF and ISIS intake manifold. Im pissed I did that but my stock MAF was bad and the stock intake manifold sucks for clearance. I want it to be as stock as possible to limit issues. I did a Apexi headgasket too. Im running stock boost and it is perfect for drifting. I don't need anymore power so I hope everything holds up.

[Om1kron]

yeah seems a stock rb25 with a greddy or similar manifold is the best bet. Sr's are just old, technology that don't really seem to be worthwhile in anything that has 18's that are 10 inches wide on the back.

I can't even do a proper burn out in my car, why even try drifting.

[GSXRJJordan]

I loved my RB25 - very similar setup to Obee's, tubular manifold, Greddy-style IM, stock turbo. Rebuilt with new everything (OEM internals) and light flywheel, and it ripped. I never got to go full-bore with it, was going to have Luke make a twin-scroll mani and go 67mm turbo with it. I miss it.

I've talked to a few LSX guys and heard complaints about reliability and cost. UZ or VH seem to be alot more reliable for some reason.

Haha, seriously? Sure there are some things that every competitive LS motor should have, like a high-volume oil pump, low temp thermostat (stock temps are always 200*F+) and an Accusump. Anyone with half a brain is going to do cams/springs/retainers for the extra 80hp and lightens up the valvetrain for high rpm. Stock water pump works well at high rpm (according to Stew, better than his raced out 55GPM Meziere). Aside from that, keep fluids in them and keep the gas tank full.

I have a very difficult time believing anyone would rather race a UZ or VH (both down on displacement and power, with many less transmission options, and overall increased cost) than a LS-motor. $4k pullouts with T56 trans any day of the week, add $1000 for cam/springs/retainers/oil pump/gaskets and another $300 or so for an Accusump. Tune with stock PCM and HP Tuners or LS1Edit, no need for standalone.

[VQMaxFan]

Yeah I also disagree with the reliabilty being bad on an LS based engine, I'm just about the only guy in my circle of friends that are into cars that doesn't have an LSx powered car and my SR gives me more problems than they ever have collectively lol. Usually the only complains my friends tell me about is o2 sensors on an fbody w/ headers and having a crappy tune, but one of them just purchased HP tuners so 100 bucks for credits for your car and do him a favor and problem solved.

[Silviaoneday]

Jeff is def on the right track with keeping an LS in good shape. Jefe have you done a LS swap in a 240 yet? Im thinking about going that route with another car...

[eh?]

That engine should be making much much more power than it did. I did 420whp @ 14psi with a 62-1 t3 on a DJ on pump. That dyno graph leaves much to be desired.. what's with all the dips?
Have you checked for boost leaks?

[GSXRJJordan]

Jeff is def on the right track with keeping an LS in good shape. Jefe have you done a LS swap in a 240 yet? Im thinking about going that route with another car...

I've done the wiring, but as far as the mechanical portion there are a couple of great swap kits and header sets, the rest is simple.

[steve shadows]

That engine should be making much much more power than it did. I did 420whp @ 14psi with a 62-1 t3 on a DJ on pump. That dyno graph leaves much to be desired.. what's with all the dips?
Have you checked for boost leaks?

Average psi on our runs was around 12 PSI, it only hits 15 for a milisecond or so at the top of the rev range.

And on a dynojet his car would actually be reading closing to 450 WHP, we smoothed out the dips on the other graphs but that was the highest peak run

Car still needs a lot more tuning but we spent almost 3 hours of the 6 hour session diagnosing things and dealing with other bs on the car and he got an insane discount. Needs another full session for some more boost and some more steady state in the low end gears.

[SuicidnS13]

I love laggy setups.... At high boost the look on peoples faces when it hits is just priceless. From 60-120 faster than 0-60..... LMAO

[Silviaoneday]

Average psi on our runs was around 12 PSI, it only hits 15 for a milisecond or so at the top of the rev range.

And on a dynojet his car would actually be reading closing to 450 WHP, we smoothed out the dips on the other graphs but that was the highest peak run

Car still needs a lot more tuning but we spent almost 3 hours of the 6 hour session diagnosing things and dealing with other bs on the car and he got an insane discount. Needs another full session for some more boost and some more steady state in the low end gears.

Thanks Steve, I dont think people really understand the setup. This turbo is not in the efficiency range that it should be. Yea other setups may make the same with a smaller setup, but those reach boost faster and hold it at 16psi, like you said I was at 16 for a millisecond.. Let me tune with race gas and 19-20 psi and see what it makes!!

[steve shadows]

I love laggy setups.... At high boost the look on peoples faces when it hits is just priceless. From 60-120 faster than 0-60..... LMAO

Lag wasnt really the issue, we were running straight off the Wastegate which is supposed to be a 12 PSI wg, however the turbo starts to touch the edge of the efficiency range towards the end of the power band and creeps up hard.

[steve shadows]

some new pics from last weeks dyno session


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[wannabe-silvia]

off topic but u got a stock fuel rail for ur rb25??

[steve shadows]

You can use most of the stock fuel rails and hardware even fpr on Nissans up to 600-700 WHP...

Most of the stuff is good to go. Injectors and fuel pump are the things that really need to be upgraded with larger compressors.

[TrustS13]

Just wanted to leave more positive rep for Steve..

So my car's ignition timing was NEVER on and I could never seem to get a proper reading, I would time it and get a different setting every time.. Really annoying not to mention the power was down on my car.

Just a little backround info, cars a 91 S13, SR, full bolts on, GT2871RS, etc.

Set me up with a awesome rate for a phone consultation.. over the phone he immediately knew my timing was off, let me know some tricks of the trade for properly timing the car, followed his instructions and all the power in my cars back! Returned my call promptly and was super friendly, talked to me for a good amount of time and answered a bunch of unrelated questions, I wish I lived in Cali and could let him tune my car in person!! Thanks again Steve!

- Danny

The car : http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs510.snc3/26792_1304664902110_1395120096_30936318_2568472_n. jpg

[heavenboundkevin]

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but you mentioned the car ran out of gas on the dyno run? So it ran out of gas at WOT? Wouldn't that damage your engine? Or would it just engine brake? I remeber on my motorcycle I accidentally hit the kill switch at 50 mph but all that happened was engine braking.

[OPTIONSZ]

rooks gewd :bigok:

[steve shadows]

We're planning more tuning in the works soon stay tuned!!!!

[sickstatus]

some new pics from last weeks dyno session








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ahaha, thats my friend, jesses car. freakin mi dang =p

[stockbee]

what're software are you tuning with?

[Ghost240]

All I have is a Z MAF and ISIS intake manifold. Im pissed I did that but my stock MAF was bad and the stock intake manifold sucks for clearance. I want it to be as stock as possible to limit issues. I did a Apexi headgasket too. Im running stock boost and it is perfect for drifting. I don't need anymore power so I hope everything holds up.


I want my cred son for turning you over to the dark side. P.S- took her out again to test the boost controller and she held .8 bar the entire time. I just need my PFC so I can get Steve to tune it. Then I'm all set...

[steve shadows]

what're software are you tuning with?

I can tune everything. I mean EVERYTHING , any ems or piggy back, especially if you have the software.

John is using a Haltech EMS, which is by far the best MAP based EMS for the money. AEM is great too but it looks like they both copied each others software layout and ergonomics

And YES of course, bring the bitch down, if you can tune before the end of July I will knock off 20% off the rate. so Hurry up Kids! Just make sure your setup is put together right. I want to keep helping forum members out as much as possible with the dyno resource while I can - unfortunately I won't be here forever. I have something else that I may be getting involved in by the end of the year, which will mean I am traveling a lot and meeting with investors.....but that's all I can say for now...(ps different industry).